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Mark (newsgroups)

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Dec 8, 2010, 3:23:28 PM12/8/10
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Damn, I just spent a bunch of time leveling my tailoring to get
illustrious grandmaster level because I thought it would grant me
scavenging same as the northrend version (*) and it seems I should have
checked first. Can't find anything about tailors looting more cloth in
Cataclysm zones. Am I wrong?

(*) http://www.wowhead.com/spell=59390

IYM

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Dec 8, 2010, 3:49:21 PM12/8/10
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I logged on at 80 and made sure I was up to date with tailoring and went
questing. I never even bothered to check what mats I needed to make
stuff as I'll level professions later, but had I looked I would have
seen some easy craft stuff just using the cindercloth (i think that's
what it's called). I had collected about 30 of them while questing and
used them all to start to level my first aid, as my mage has no self
healing. Had I known, I would have saved a few. But as for getting
additional cloth because we're tailors? I've no idea would be nice to
know...I'll have to check wow-professions.com soon. He only had the
guide up to 525 for tailors when I checked the other day. He had the
complete guides for a lot of the other ones completed already...

OT: I'm a skinner as well (yea, I know - weird combo for a mage) and I
was skinning fel hounds and the such like crazy, with the amount that
were laying around dead from all the questers and sending it all to my
80 druid who's my leatherworker. I'm not kidding - I could have staying
in that one area all night and just skinned there was that many
around... :) I stopped at about 100 skins to get back to questing...

Gumby951

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Dec 8, 2010, 4:57:44 PM12/8/10
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"IYM" <"S U N risr"@optonline.net> wrote in message
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I was skinning like crazy in the underwater zone. Had I thought of it 15
minutes earlier than I did instead of trying to level in that gankfest I
could have made server first 525 skinner. As it was I missed it by 15
minutes.

Gumby619


Catriona R

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Dec 8, 2010, 5:02:29 PM12/8/10
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 13:57:44 -0800, "Gumby951" <gumb...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>"IYM" <"S U N risr"@optonline.net> wrote in message
>news:idoqok$uha$1...@news.eternal-september.org...

>> OT: I'm a skinner as well (yea, I know - weird combo for a mage) and I was
>> skinning fel hounds and the such like crazy, with the amount that were
>> laying around dead from all the questers and sending it all to my 80 druid
>> who's my leatherworker. I'm not kidding - I could have staying in that
>> one area all night and just skinned there was that many around... :) I
>> stopped at about 100 skins to get back to questing...
>
>I was skinning like crazy in the underwater zone. Had I thought of it 15
>minutes earlier than I did instead of trying to level in that gankfest I
>could have made server first 525 skinner. As it was I missed it by 15
>minutes.

That area with the snakes, by any chance? I was cursing that I wasn't
a skinner when I got there earlier, free leather by the bucketload! If
only other gathering professions were as easy... Obsidian is a total
bitch to find atm, got a bit earlier when I just flew around Hyjal for
a while, but Vash'jir, damn... only saw about 3 veins and only got one
of them :-(
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Gumby951

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Dec 8, 2010, 5:12:50 PM12/8/10
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"Catriona R" <catrion...@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message
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Yes, the snakes and the crab things. the water was literally so thick with
corpses in spots it was almost solid with them. I could just sit in one spot
not moving and get 6-7 skins at a time before I had to move a lillte in
another direction.

Gumby619


BombayMix

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Dec 9, 2010, 6:34:55 AM12/9/10
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On Dec 8, 8:49 pm, IYM <"S U N risr"@optonline.net> wrote:
> Mark (newsgroups) wrote:
> > Damn, I just spent a bunch of time leveling my tailoring to get
> > illustrious grandmaster level because I thought it would grant me
> > scavenging same as the northrend version (*) and it seems I should have
> > checked first. Can't find anything about tailors looting more cloth in
> > Cataclysm zones. Am I wrong?
>
> > (*)http://www.wowhead.com/spell=59390

>
> I logged on at 80 and made sure I was up to date with tailoring and went
> questing.  I never even bothered to check what mats I needed to make
> stuff as I'll level professions later, but had I looked I would have
> seen some easy craft stuff just using the cindercloth (i think that's
> what it's called).  I had collected about 30 of them while questing and
> used them all to start to level my first aid, as my mage has no self
> healing.  Had I known, I would have saved a few.  But as for getting
> additional cloth because we're tailors?  I've no idea would be nice to
> know...I'll have to check wow-professions.com soon.  He only had the
> guide up to 525 for tailors when I checked the other day.  He had the
> complete guides for a lot of the other ones completed already...

I have feeling you might do but it not showing. I ran a few instances
with guildies and I'm sure I found cloth of mobs they had already
looted. (Could be wrong though)

BombayMix

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Dec 9, 2010, 6:37:11 AM12/9/10
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On Dec 8, 10:02 pm, Catriona R <catrionarNOS...@totalise.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 13:57:44 -0800, "Gumby951" <gumby...@yahoo.com>

> wrote:
>
> >"IYM" <"S U N risr"@optonline.net> wrote in message
> >news:idoqok$uha$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >> OT: I'm a skinner as well (yea, I know - weird combo for a mage) and I was
> >> skinning fel hounds and the such like crazy, with the amount that were
> >> laying around dead from all the questers and sending it all to my 80 druid
> >> who's my leatherworker.  I'm not kidding - I could have staying in that
> >> one area all night and just skinned there was that many around... :)  I
> >> stopped at about 100 skins to get back to questing...
>
> >I was skinning like crazy in the underwater zone. Had I thought of it 15
> >minutes earlier than I did instead of trying to level in that gankfest I
> >could have made server first 525 skinner. As it was I missed it by 15
> >minutes.
>
> That area with the snakes, by any chance? I was cursing that I wasn't
> a skinner when I got there earlier, free leather by the bucketload! If
> only other gathering professions were as easy... Obsidian is a total
> bitch to find atm, got a bit earlier when I just flew around Hyjal for
> a while, but Vash'jir, damn... only saw about 3 veins and only got one
> of them :-(

Herbs? I sold mine for 100g I'll worry about leveling later. Been
using the cloth since the tailored greens are better then my current
epics! Madness!!

ASKF

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Dec 9, 2010, 7:47:02 PM12/9/10
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The first day I sold herbs for 140-200g stack, but now they're already
down to 50g stack. I don't complain though, because I had enough to
level alch. with the herbs from Mt. Hyjal and sell off at least 10
stacks at AH :-D
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IYM

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Dec 10, 2010, 7:17:47 AM12/10/10
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I nearly fell out of my chair last night when I saw that the leather you
can skin from the start in Hyjal was going for 2K a stack of 20 on my
realm. Dayyym!!! ..I had been sending it to my leatherworking toon so
he would have a good stash when I started playing him, but no more!
This stuff is the easiest to grab and the starting level with a skinner...

Urbin

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Dec 10, 2010, 9:13:27 AM12/10/10
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 07:17:47 -0500, IYM wrote:
> I nearly fell out of my chair last night when I saw that the leather you
> can skin from the start in Hyjal was going for 2K a stack of 20 on my
> realm. Dayyym!!! ..I had been sending it to my leatherworking toon so
> he would have a good stash when I started playing him, but no more! This
> stuff is the easiest to grab and the starting level with a skinner...

Damn. And my highest level skinner is 73. What a shame :)

Cheers
Urbin
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IYM

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Dec 10, 2010, 9:43:34 AM12/10/10
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Urbin wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 07:17:47 -0500, IYM wrote:
>> I nearly fell out of my chair last night when I saw that the leather you
>> can skin from the start in Hyjal was going for 2K a stack of 20 on my
>> realm. Dayyym!!! ..I had been sending it to my leatherworking toon so
>> he would have a good stash when I started playing him, but no more! This
>> stuff is the easiest to grab and the starting level with a skinner...
>
> Damn. And my highest level skinner is 73. What a shame :)
>
> Cheers
> Urbin

Of course, whether it sells at that price has yet to be determined. I
listed 2 stacks of 20 that I was going to give to my leatherworker.
I'll find out at lunch today what happened. What I *DO* know was that
picked up about 5 pieces of 288 boe greens off trash last night that I
couldn't use (mail, leather, etc) on my main I posted in Guild chat if
anyone wanted them for nothing....no takers...So I listed them on a whim
on the AH to see if they would go for 75g each and I got notice they
sold before I made it across the street to the bank....me thinks I
listed them too low, but there was nothing else to compare them to in
the AH, so I didn't think they'd sell. Anyone else have an idea what I
should be looking at AH'ing green boe 280ish gear for?

BTW - Ironically, for how much leather was going for (the 2K for a 20
stack), cindercloth was substantially cheaper at 8g each (or abut 160 a
20 stack)....

...and back onto the original topic - I did notice that I was able to
scavenge cindercloth off corpses lat night. Just think the drop rate is
low....Then again, if it was you'd think the price would be higher on
the AH, however - everyone was getting a little cloth even non-tailors
as it is used for bandages - I think only skinners are getting skins....

Mark (newsgroups)

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Dec 10, 2010, 9:52:01 AM12/10/10
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On 10/12/2010 14:43, IYM wrote:

[...]

> ...and back onto the original topic - I did notice that I was able to
> scavenge cindercloth off corpses lat night. Just think the drop rate is
> low....Then again, if it was you'd think the price would be higher on
> the AH, however - everyone was getting a little cloth even non-tailors
> as it is used for bandages - I think only skinners are getting skins....

I'm not sure what you mean by this. How could you tell that you were
'scavenging' the cloth rather than normal looting? I am dual-boxing a
priest (tailoring) and druid (non tailoring) and have not noticed any
significant differences in cloth loot on the two.

IYM

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Dec 10, 2010, 10:05:23 AM12/10/10
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OK - you would know better than...It just seemed that after looting
there was more sparkle and I looted again and got cloth. Maybe there
was just another mob underneath that I didn't see the first time and
made an assumption. I'll have to go google'ing later and see if I can
find us an answer... :)

Mark (newsgroups)

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Dec 10, 2010, 11:31:51 AM12/10/10
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Oh, please accept my apologies. I went out and test this properly. I
looted every human type mob with my druid first and can confirm there
are times when nothing further is lootable by him but my priest can loot
cloth. This is on free-for-all loot type. So I guess tailors do get
additional cloth, just not as much as I was used to in Northrend :-)

IYM

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Dec 10, 2010, 11:56:07 AM12/10/10
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Ah - cool :)

Yea, I'd suspect right now they are keeping the scavenging low as they
are giving it out also as regular loot (as it's needed for those
leveling first aid) and if too much is available, it's value is crap...

Pete B

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Dec 10, 2010, 6:36:19 PM12/10/10
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In article <idopg0$1pe$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
marknew...@yahoo.com says...

>
> Damn, I just spent a bunch of time leveling my tailoring to get
> illustrious grandmaster level because I thought it would grant me
> scavenging same as the northrend version (*) and it seems I should have
> checked first. Can't find anything about tailors looting more cloth in
> Cataclysm zones. Am I wrong?
>

I hope so, the cloth drop level in Lich was atrocious for most

Steve Kaye

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Dec 11, 2010, 6:26:27 PM12/11/10
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I don't think that it was so bad. Every character seemed to have more
than enough to level first aid and my tailor seemed to have plenty to
level tailoring.

I do think that it was worse than the cloth drop rate in Outlands. I
always seem to have way too much Netherweave Cloth. I just wouldn't go
as far as to say that it was atrocious.

steve.kaye
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Pete B

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Dec 11, 2010, 11:15:11 PM12/11/10
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In article <ie11b3$c6g$2...@news.eternal-september.org>, nospam@giddy-
kippers.co.uk says...

>
> On 10/12/2010 23:36, Pete B wrote:
> > In article<idopg0$1pe$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > marknew...@yahoo.com says...
> >>
> >> Damn, I just spent a bunch of time leveling my tailoring to get
> >> illustrious grandmaster level because I thought it would grant me
> >> scavenging same as the northrend version (*) and it seems I should have
> >> checked first. Can't find anything about tailors looting more cloth in
> >> Cataclysm zones. Am I wrong?
> >>
> >
> > I hope so, the cloth drop level in Lich was atrocious for most
>
> I don't think that it was so bad. Every character seemed to have more
> than enough to level first aid and my tailor seemed to have plenty to
> level tailoring.

Well tailors got extra.

>
> I do think that it was worse than the cloth drop rate in Outlands. I
> always seem to have way too much Netherweave Cloth. I just wouldn't go
> as far as to say that it was atrocious.

It was for me. Still working on the quest to get 500 bandages

Pete B

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Dec 11, 2010, 11:28:32 PM12/11/10
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In article <idtfbh$pch$2...@news.eternal-september.org>, "S U N
risr"@optonline.net says...

> > I'm not sure what you mean by this. How could you tell that you were
> > 'scavenging' the cloth rather than normal looting? I am dual-boxing a
> > priest (tailoring) and druid (non tailoring) and have not noticed any
> > significant differences in cloth loot on the two.
>
> OK - you would know better than...It just seemed that after looting
> there was more sparkle and I looted again and got cloth. Maybe there
> was just another mob underneath that I didn't see the first time and
> made an assumption. I'll have to go google'ing later and see if I can
> find us an answer... :)

Tailors learned the scavenge skill, and I've heard them told they got
more than others.

Urbin

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Dec 13, 2010, 2:58:53 AM12/13/10
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I agree. In Outland I had more than enough cloth for my tailor to make 18
slot bags for all my characters (4 bags + 7 bank bags), skill first aid up
to 375 on all my level 70 characters and sell off the rest on the AH.

In WotLK I didn't even manage to provide all my characters with 20 slot bags
(all had 4, but not all got 7 for the bank). Plus the only char to have 450
first aid is my main, I only skilled the others to 410 so they could get the
book drop to at least learn the heavy bandages.

However. I don't think I used more than a handful of frostweave bandages
during all of WotLK. In combat they are pretty useless because you can't use
them fully when being hit on, they can't be applied twice in quick
succession and out of combat, food is the better option. Even though I am an
achievment junkie, the 500 bandage one is one I don't have (and likely
won't) because I just couldn't be bothered wasting 1000 cloth on an
achievment only to then vendor off all the useless bandages. At least not
while not all of my chars have large bags.

Cheers
Urbin

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Dave Weaver

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Dec 13, 2010, 3:23:00 AM12/13/10
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Well, my tailor has "Northrend cloth scavenging" which, according to the
description, you'd think wouldn't work outside Northrend.

However, I was multi-boxing through Cataclysm zones, and I can confirm that
my tailor could loot cloth off mobs when my other 2 toons couldn't see any
sparklies.

So I'd say it works, intentionally or not, with Embersilk.


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IYM

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Dec 13, 2010, 7:23:11 AM12/13/10
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I'd agree - I payed close attention to it this weekend, and during a
dungeon run when all corpse had been looted, I still saw a sparkle and
re-looted and found embersilk.

However - I will say that the drop rate still sucks on regular mobs for
embersilk. I need to find where good drops are to farm, similar to that
of the frostweave cloth that you would go to those undead heroes (or
whatever they were called) area northwest of ICC, where you could farm
frostweave to your heart's content.

Leveling through the zones, I still found I had a choice between using
the silk for first-aid or tailoring. I chose first aid, as I found I
was having no problem with the leveling content, and didn't find myself
using potions, but every so often after a fight I'd need to heal up as I
can't self heal (mage).

So I leveled my first-aid as I did my toon and am now at 525 in that and
skinning. Now I need to farm for the embersilk for tailoring.

Dave Weaver

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Dec 13, 2010, 8:22:18 AM12/13/10
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On 2010-12-13, IYM <"S U N risr"@optonline.net> wrote:
> However - I will say that the drop rate still sucks on regular mobs for
> embersilk. I need to find where good drops are to farm, similar to that
> of the frostweave cloth that you would go to those undead heroes (or
> whatever they were called) area northwest of ICC, where you could farm
> frostweave to your heart's content.

I agree completely. There is a shortage of cloth, and on the AH it is 100g+
per stack on my server.

My tailoring is only at about 475, since I can't find the basic cloth I
need.

In contrast, levelling enchanting has proved easier than I expected.
Not only did I get lots of greens/blues to disenchant while I was levelling,
but my skinnner got lots of leather.

So I gave the leather to my leatherworker, made greens to level leatherworking,
then disenchanted the greens for enchanting mats. Also, any greens I make while
tailoring get DE'd too.

On a related note, now is the time to buy any crafted items that you might want,
because the prices are rock bottom on the AH while crafters try to get even a
little money back for the items they made while levelling their profession.

Elementium bars cost a fortune, but I was able to pick up an Elementium Rod
for my enchanting for much less.

Likewise, enchanting scrolls are going really cheaply - you can get enchants
for less than 20g that would cost 100's if you bought the mats.

Anyone who wants to make a good profit, and doesn't mind holding off on
levelling their professions, should sell all cloth, ore/bars, leather, gems,
herbs etc now while the prices are high, wait until prices drop (which may be
many weeks), then buy back whatever you need for your profession.

Catriona R

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Dec 13, 2010, 9:23:27 AM12/13/10
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On 13 Dec 2010 13:22:18 GMT, Dave Weaver <zen1...@zen.co.uk> wrote:

>On a related note, now is the time to buy any crafted items that you might want,
>because the prices are rock bottom on the AH while crafters try to get even a
>little money back for the items they made while levelling their profession.

How I wish that was the case on my server - that said I'm not
complaining about the gold I make from selling crafted items! At least
I don't think 50g-100g for a green classes as "rock bottom" ;-)

>Likewise, enchanting scrolls are going really cheaply - you can get enchants
>for less than 20g that would cost 100's if you bought the mats.

Haha now that is true indeed, browsed the AH for some cheap enchants
for my blues last night, figuring that while I usually enchant my own
gear, my enchanter's not got far yet (since I keep selling my green
crafted pieces instead of DE'ing them, much more profitable atm) and
hey, 30 int to cloak for 3g... *buyout* :-P 35g for leg enchant...
*buyout* ;-) I'd think about making a stock but meh, I'll end up with
a heap of scrolls in the gbank when I skill up myself anyway!

>Anyone who wants to make a good profit, and doesn't mind holding off on
>levelling their professions, should sell all cloth, ore/bars, leather, gems,
>herbs etc now while the prices are high, wait until prices drop (which may be
>many weeks), then buy back whatever you need for your profession.

Yeah I'm skilling my jewelcrafting but selling every volatile that
drops while I'm mining atm, making good money from them. And better
money from Rigid Ocean Sapphires... it would appear only one other
person on my server got that recipe so far and it's quite naturally
going to be very very popular with the raiders ;-)
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ScratchMonkey

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Dec 20, 2010, 11:03:39 AM12/20/10
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Urbin <ur...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
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> However. I don't think I used more than a handful of frostweave
> bandages during all of WotLK. In combat they are pretty useless
> because you can't use them fully when being hit on, they can't be
> applied twice in quick succession and out of combat, food is the
> better option.

I'm a healing junkie. I keep a stack on my mage, and after the healer
rezzes someone, I'm ready with a bandage, and almost always beat the healer
to topping off the guy's health. (My mage also has an engineering pocket
knife, ready to rez the healer if my mage is the last person standing.)

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