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Tigero

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Nov 10, 2009, 5:58:22 AM11/10/09
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Note to self: Never EVER write any more Excel and Outlook macro's to
do the work for you unless you are superloaded and need time to do
other stuff.

I brought this to myself. Some reports takes me 4-6 ours to generate
from gathering all the data, filtering, filter the filtered, sort,
multiple subtotals, sorting, then divide the whole data and the
summery and generating the charts. After a few years this routine is
done with minimum mental energy as they are like shifting gear in a
car, done automatically, got bored, then I spent a few weeks learning
about Excel macros and outlook macros, then a few weeks developing
simple small macros which got complicated day after day until they do
ALL the job with one click. Even the data gathering became automated.

Now all I do in the reporting days is just copy the data into excel,
click the macro shortcut, then after a few SECONDS the report is
ready, down from 4-6 hours to less than a minute....

Might sound good but I didn't think about the result of the super fast
performance which is extreme boredom. I spend hours trying to figure
out somethig to do.. Even asked my boss for more assignments but there
isn't any backlog in our unit....

I am in a cubical and my monitor is clearly visible to anyone who
passes by and to my terrible luck I'm right next to the door and I
kind of don't like it when my boss keeps coming in and out and seeing
me watching youtube or facebooking. thankefully this group looks
simple enough to look innocent so I don't think he will suspect me of
wasting time unless he come closer. Can't play the games in my iphone
for the same reason. most gaming sites are blocked, most discussion
forums are blocked, can't install new software on my workstation. So I
AM BORED

I don't want to go back to manual reporting as it is mind numbing...
So I don't know what to do...

bertieb...@gmail.com

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Nov 10, 2009, 7:00:07 AM11/10/09
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Can u access the Blizzard forums from work cos I cant

Ashen Shugar

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:28:23 AM11/10/09
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I think it was Tigero <boai...@gmail.com> that wrote something
like...

E-books! Go to www.baen.com and from there you download a few dozen
books free and there's a pile more links that'll take you to the
webscriptions website were you can buy the ebooks for around US$6.00

They also sell eARC's if you don't want to wait for the next book in a
series to actually be published before you read it.

You can download them in half a dozen or so formats. I've always
gotten them as html. They just look like a pile of text, so not
obviously not work related. : )

Ashen Shugar
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Lurker

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:25:17 AM11/10/09
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"Tigero" <boai...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Find ways to improve the business, ask other employees if you can help them,
perhaps help write macros for their work. What improvements would benefit
your customers? Either make yourself valuable or one day the boss will say,
"Why do we need someone that surfs the Internet all day when we can have
someone else run his/her report in a few minutes?" Make yourself an asset
to the company that pays your salary to be productive.


Matthew

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:26:37 PM11/10/09
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Note to you IT IS WORK SO WORK

"Tigero" <boai...@gmail.com>
<snipped>


Jamie Kahn Genet

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Nov 10, 2009, 3:10:50 PM11/10/09
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Tigero <boai...@gmail.com> wrote:

You could always do some self study, or even take a real course. That
won't look like you're being lazy, and will look close enough to real
work it's unlikely it will be picked up on should someone glance into
your cubical :-) Plus later on you might be able to move on to better
and brighter things with some more skills.
--
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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bertieb...@gmail.com

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Nov 11, 2009, 4:51:31 AM11/11/09
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On Nov 10, 1:28 pm, deathsab...@yahoo.com.au (Ashen Shugar) wrote:
> I think it was Tigero <boain...@gmail.com> that wrote something
> E-books!  Go towww.baen.comand from there you download a few dozen

> books free and there's a pile more links that'll take you to the
> webscriptions website were you can buy the ebooks for around US$6.00
>
> They also sell eARC's if you don't want to wait for the next book in a
> series to actually be published before you read it.
>
> You can download them in half a dozen or so formats.  I've always
> gotten them as html.  They just look like a pile of text, so not
> obviously not work related.  : )
>
> Ashen Shugar
> --
> The lions sing and the hills take flight.
> The moon by day, and the sun by night.
> Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
> Let the Lord of Chaos rule!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Any recommendations off this site?

steve.kaye

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Nov 11, 2009, 6:53:43 AM11/11/09
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On Nov 10, 7:26 pm, "Matthew" <iamacatslave...@proudtoserve.com>
wrote:

> Note to you IT IS WORK  SO WORK

Did you actually read the message or did you just read the subject?

Just in case you're one of those forum muppets who uses the acronym
TL;DR, here's a summary:

He had a task that took all day and has automated it so that it now
takes a few seconds. This has left him with some days where he has no
work to do. He asked his boss for more work but there wasn't any to
give so now he's stuck for things to do.

steve.kaye

Matthew

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Nov 11, 2009, 1:27:18 PM11/11/09
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"steve.kaye" <nos...@giddy-kippers.co.uk> wrote in message
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steve.kaye

Yeah I read it did you actually truly read it. :-)

Still work is work. You are not paid to play games or mess around on the
internet.
I was always taught if there is nothing to do at work find something. If
the boss as no idea or work to assign you find something to do, help
someone, find another department that can use the help or you will find
yourself being looked at no for need for you or your position.


Ashen Shugar

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Nov 11, 2009, 6:19:52 PM11/11/09
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I think it was "BertieB...@gmail.com" <bertieb...@gmail.com>
that wrote something like...

>On Nov 10, 1:28 pm, deathsab...@yahoo.com.au (Ashen Shugar) wrote:
>> I think it was Tigero <boain...@gmail.com> that wrote something
>> like...

*snips*

>> >I don't want to go back to manual reporting as it is mind numbing...
>> >So I don't know what to do...
>>
>> E-books! Go towww.baen.comand from there you download a few dozen
>> books free and there's a pile more links that'll take you to the
>> webscriptions website were you can buy the ebooks for around US$6.00
>>
>> They also sell eARC's if you don't want to wait for the next book in a
>> series to actually be published before you read it.
>>
>> You can download them in half a dozen or so formats. I've always
>> gotten them as html. They just look like a pile of text, so not
>> obviously not work related. : )
>>
>>

>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Any recommendations off this site?

My favourite authors that are on there are David Drake, David Weber
and John Ringo.

These guys are mostly writing military sci-fi/fantasy.

David Weber's Harrington series (starting with 'On Basilik Station')
is pretty epic. David Drakes Hammers Slammers series are more lots of
long short stories, novella types with a few recurring characters and
a vague overall sort of story line. It's about a Mercenary company.
Big tanks, armored cavalry mostly with some infantry. Oh and yeah,
set in the future. Fusion power plants for the vehicles, plasma type
weapons. John Ringo's Legacy of the Aldenata series is pretty good.
Read it a couple of times. There's a few co-written books that
continue the story from the invasion of earth that the initial series
covers. Then there's his Council something or other series that has
some so hi-tech that it's like magic stuff, but due to circumstances,
most of the population is back to swords and bows and such.
Fortunately the SCA was still around then, so they had some people
that already knew what they were doing.
David Weber's series starting with "Oath of Swords" is fantasy.
There's a whole pantheon of God's, good and evil at work in the world,
though the story revolves around one character that one of the good
gods pesters to try and get them to work for him.
David Drakes North World series was the first of Drakes works I read
and was what got me hooked on him. He's also done a fantasy series,
"Lord of the Isles" I believe was the first book. Most of the books
in that series are relatively stand alone. Which can be a bit of a
pain as there's a lot of repetition, which each book doing a bit of an
introduction to the characters. But still enjoyable reading.
Back to Sci-fi from Drake is his Lt Leary series. The planet and
people who are the "good" guys are so not politically correct but it's
all fun. They just have a tendency to refer to anyone from any other
planet as 'Wogs'. ;p

The series by John Ringo and David Weber starting with "March
Upcountry" is good. Brat of a prince, stranded on a planet with his
company of elite soldier body guards has to march around the planet to
reach a space port all the while dealing with the natives, many of
which are hostile.

One of the newer series by David Weber started with "Off Armageddon
Reef". In the future humans bump into an alien race and get
practically wiped out. A remanent manage to escape undetected to
start again on a new planet. However, to put off being found by the
aliens and wiped out, they end up with a theocracy that stops
technological advancement, so they're only really as far along as
water wheels, black powder weapons, sailing ships, etc.

So yeah, I'd recommend pretty much any book by any of these three
authors.

Oh, there's also a series by David Drake and Eric Flint that's good if
you like Romans. And time travelers. ; )

steve.kaye

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Nov 12, 2009, 4:15:03 AM11/12/09
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On Nov 11, 6:27 pm, "Matthew" <iamacatslave...@proudtoserve.com>
wrote:

It would be nice if that was always possible. I've been in jobs
before now where we weren't allowed to do anything but weren't
expected to do nothing.

Also, Tigero said "Even asked my boss for more assignments but there
isn't any backlog in our unit....". This tells us two things.... he
has been honest with his boss and told him/her that he is out of work
and that his work colleagues don't have any spare work for him. They
might be able to give him work but that would probably just result in
them having more time with nothing to do.


> or you will find
> yourself being looked at no need for you or your position.

Unfortunately, this could very well happen but if there's no work then
there's not much that can be done about it.

steve.kaye

Rob Wynne

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Nov 12, 2009, 7:43:33 AM11/12/09
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Ashen Shugar <death...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> My favourite authors that are on there are David Drake, David Weber
> and John Ringo.
>

Lois McMaster Bujold's also a Baen author, and one I'd put ahead of even
those three wonderful authors. :)

The Miles Vorkosigan books are in the many-times-reread catagory.

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Tigero

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Nov 13, 2009, 11:27:15 PM11/13/09
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Thanks all for your replies and ideas. I shall look into the ebooks
site, its quite rare these days to find anything good online for free.

I hope to find some skills improvement sites, the self improvement
idea was great but the problem is that I can't find free sites, all
those sites says they are free but while digging in and clicking on
the subject of interest they ask for money,

Anyone know any free good sites for self improvement?

Jamie Kahn Genet

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Nov 14, 2009, 6:11:36 AM11/14/09
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Tigero <boai...@gmail.com> wrote:

What are you interested in?

Lune Strider

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Nov 14, 2009, 6:22:02 AM11/14/09
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On Nov 14, 2:11 pm, jami...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
wrote:

> Tigero <boain...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks all for your replies and ideas. I shall look into the ebooks
> > site, its quite rare these days to find anything good online for free.
>
> > I hope to find some skills improvement sites, the self improvement
> > idea was great but the problem is that I can't find free sites, all
> > those sites says they are free but while digging in and clicking on
> > the subject of interest they ask for money,
>
> > Anyone know any free good sites for self improvement?
>
> What are you interested in?
> --

I'm most interested in fast reading and photographic memory,

you might say "Go to a library or a bookstore" but I live in a third
world country with no good libraries... Public Libraries are rare and
close pretty early (around 5 PM) and bookstores are monopolized by 2
companies with 90% of their content are religious books with a handful
of shelves of self improvement books which all must be approved by
government through a religious council. Each and every book I bought
through Amazon was confiscated at the customs and when asking "why"
they put my calls from one guy to another until they reach someone who
will not answer until the line drops :S... Can you guess the country?

Jamie Kahn Genet

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Nov 14, 2009, 12:38:28 PM11/14/09
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Lune Strider <lunst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 14, 2:11 pm, jami...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
> wrote:
> > Tigero <boain...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Thanks all for your replies and ideas. I shall look into the ebooks
> > > site, its quite rare these days to find anything good online for free.
> >
> > > I hope to find some skills improvement sites, the self improvement
> > > idea was great but the problem is that I can't find free sites, all
> > > those sites says they are free but while digging in and clicking on
> > > the subject of interest they ask for money,
> >
> > > Anyone know any free good sites for self improvement?
> >
> > What are you interested in?
>

> I'm most interested in fast reading and photographic memory,
>
> you might say "Go to a library or a bookstore" but I live in a third
> world country with no good libraries... Public Libraries are rare and
> close pretty early (around 5 PM) and bookstores are monopolized by 2
> companies with 90% of their content are religious books with a handful
> of shelves of self improvement books which all must be approved by
> government through a religious council. Each and every book I bought
> through Amazon was confiscated at the customs and when asking "why"
> they put my calls from one guy to another until they reach someone who
> will not answer until the line drops :S... Can you guess the country?

Middle East or Africa? *racks brains* I suppose there's also a
possibility in a certain former Soviet republic that's strongly
Islamic... but I'm showing my ignorance here in not being able to pin it
down, sorry. I actually wanted to say Iran at first, but I was under the
impression there are greater freedoms there than you describe. Ok, you
better just tell me before I feel too stupid, heh.

As for the conditions - mate, that truly sucks :-( Thank goodness you
obviously have reasonably unfettered access to the 'net. I'm sorry I'm
none too familiar with your subjects of interest (I'm a voracious, but
not very fast reader, heh; and my memory is only good for random tech
and trivia stuff - I'm terrible with names :-D ). Hopefully someone else
here is.

Regards,
Jamie Kahn Genet

Lune Strider

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Nov 14, 2009, 11:04:08 PM11/14/09
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On Nov 14, 8:38 pm, jami...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
wrote:


I'm impressed. You got the religion right :) .. and the its the Middle
East :) ... to be more specific Saudi Arabia.

Impressive Jamie

Jamie Kahn Genet

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Nov 15, 2009, 1:03:46 AM11/15/09
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Lune Strider <lunst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm impressed. You got the religion right :) .. and the its the Middle
> East :) ... to be more specific Saudi Arabia.
>
> Impressive Jamie

Wow, Saudi Arabia would not have been my first guess. I had no idea
conditions there are so oppressive.

You know I can't help but wonder if the stopping book deliveries isn't
more bureaucratic incompetence than actual censoring. They probably
don't have enough people qualified to check books for restricted content
or just can't be arsed to do so. Nothing would surprise me when it comes
to government bureaucracies :-D

However regardless it still sucks. I hope you do find a way to make more
productive use of your free time. I mean bloody good on you for
automating a repetitive and boring task. If I were your manager I'd be
giving you a commendation and (uh oh ;-) ) loading you up with more
challenging projects, heh. What a waste to have an eager employee just
sit at his desk bored enough to result in a thread like this.

Well, good luck :-)

bertieb...@gmail.com

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Nov 16, 2009, 8:39:33 AM11/16/09
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On Nov 15, 6:03 am, jami...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
> If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I guess a monthyl subscription to playboy might get confiscated then?

Lurker

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Nov 17, 2009, 2:09:04 PM11/17/09
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"Lune Strider" <lunst...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>Impressive Jamie

Read The Bible


Jamie Kahn Genet

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Nov 17, 2009, 2:17:14 PM11/17/09
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Lurker <s-mo...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

I think reading such an conspicuously non-work related or technical book
at work might be a tad obvious, don't you think? *ignores rather
pathetic attempt to stir up trouble by using religion*

Lurker

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"Jamie Kahn Genet" <jam...@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote in message
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He asked for something to do while at work. You are the one attempting to
flame by insinuating that a suggestion to read a Judeo-Christian book is
"stirring up trouble". I suppose if I said read the koran it would have
been a magnanimous idea. You are a trouble maker in every group you
participate within.


Urbin

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Nov 20, 2009, 5:07:10 PM11/20/09
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> >> >I'm impressed. You got the religion right :) .. and the its the Middle
> >> >East :) ... to be more specific Saudi Arabia.
> >>
> >> >Impressive Jamie
> >>
> >> Read The Bible
> >
> > I think reading such an conspicuously non-work related or technical book
> > at work might be a tad obvious, don't you think? *ignores rather
> > pathetic attempt to stir up trouble by using religion*
>

> He asked for something to do while at work. You are the one attempting to
> flame by insinuating that a suggestion to read a Judeo-Christian book is
> "stirring up trouble". I suppose if I said read the koran it would have
> been a magnanimous idea.

Are you following the thread? He did state he lived in Saudi Arabia (a
muslim country). He also did say that literature - even if mail ordered - is
heavily censored. I'm not familiar in enough detail but believe you could
potentially get into trouble ordering or reading the bible there, I know it
is very difficult to practice christian faith...

> You are a trouble maker in every group you participate within.

Jamie might get a bit over-emotional on the odd issue, but generally I don't
find him to be a trouble maker. What was your contribution to a.g.w again?

Cheers
Urbin
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Jamie Kahn Genet

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Nov 20, 2009, 5:36:34 PM11/20/09
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Lurker <s-mo...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Learn to snip sigs or get a decent Usenet client.

> He asked for something to do while at work. You are the one attempting to
> flame by insinuating that a suggestion to read a Judeo-Christian book is
> "stirring up trouble". I suppose if I said read the koran it would have
> been a magnanimous idea.

You know full well you were stirring up trouble, unless you're actually
stupid enough to think that would go down well to a Saudi citizen. So at
the very least be honest. I'm sure he just wrote you off as yet another
western bible thumping evangelist jerk. And you have the nerve to accuse
me of exactly what you're doing... typical. What's the matter? Can't
stand being called out on your lame attempt? Easier to whine than deal,
I guess.

> You are a trouble maker in every group you participate within.

So you're aware of my record in the comp.sys.mac.* groups, just to name
a few where jerks are not tolerated by us *plonk*

Jamie Kahn Genet

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Nov 20, 2009, 5:56:56 PM11/20/09
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Urbin <ur...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Precisely. Regardless of the OP's faith, it was a suggestion bound to
end in trouble in Saudi Arabia. It also IMO showed considerable
disrepect to the OP who seemed like quite a nice chap, and obviously
smart enough not to follow Lurker's suggestion in such a public place.

> > You are a trouble maker in every group you participate within.
>
> Jamie might get a bit over-emotional on the odd issue, but generally I don't
> find him to be a trouble maker. What was your contribution to a.g.w again?
>
> Cheers
> Urbin

If it brands me as a trouble maker in tackling jerks head on, it is a
title I happily accept.

Jamie Kahn Genet

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Nov 20, 2009, 5:56:57 PM11/20/09
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LOL. I meant 'So you're NOT aware of my record...'. Hmmm... though
perhaps I was right the first time? Because we don't tolerate jerks
there and they are tackled head on, shown up for who they are, then
plonked by all sensible regular posters (the rest retreat to that
wonderful bastion of the troll - the Mac advocacy group :-D ).

Heh, oh well...

Rob Wynne

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:00:52 PM11/23/09
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Lurker <s-mo...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>I'm impressed. You got the religion right :) .. and the its the Middle
>>East :) ... to be more specific Saudi Arabia.
>
>>Impressive Jamie
>
> Read The Bible
>

Which one?

ASKF

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:42:20 AM11/25/09
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Jamie Kahn Genet ytrede sig i
<1j98kfy.1jdy8l473b8i8N%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz> med dette:

<http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Saudi-Arabia-Ali-Sibat-Sentenced-To-Death-For-Witchcraft-Over-TV-Predictions/Article/200911415466364?f=rss>

Saudi Arabia is actually considered as one of the most oppressive
nations in the world, and there is a constant power struggle between the
religious police and the monarchy.

>You know I can't help but wonder if the stopping book deliveries isn't
>more bureaucratic incompetence than actual censoring. They probably
>don't have enough people qualified to check books for restricted content
>or just can't be arsed to do so. Nothing would surprise me when it comes
>to government bureaucracies :-D

It's more likely to be religious narrowmindness. Try imagine the US
giving censor power to a group of neoconservative born again christians,
and you will have a similar impact at the avalible litterature.
--
Allan Stig Kiilerich Frederiksen
"When you try to change a mans paradigm, you must keep in mind that he
can hear you only through the filter of the paradigm he holds."
-Myron Tribus

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