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Barry Freeman

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Mar 3, 2008, 7:08:46 AM3/3/08
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Hmm, am I missing something?

My mage dinged 70 over the weekend, so I got tailor to make the Imbued
Netherweave stuff for her. Will help out while she gears up.

So, there are 4 pieces.. but wait.. *2* chest? wtf is that about? A
Tunic and a Robe ?

Oh sure, the set bonus is 3, but why not make Gloves, or a Helm or
something?

The robe has better Stam/Int, but the tunic has better Dmg.

Seems a bit wierd...

Shimizu

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Mar 3, 2008, 7:49:05 AM3/3/08
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I may be wrong but I think it was originally just the tunic, the robe
was added later.

RogerM

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Mar 3, 2008, 8:19:17 AM3/3/08
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"Idiotic" is the apt word I'd say.

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lcpltom

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Mar 3, 2008, 8:25:26 AM3/3/08
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It gives you more of a choice in customizing your character.

You get the choice between the robe and the tunic, either one
completes the set. Its like choosing between a staff or a 1-hand
+offhand. Generally a staff would give you more stamina and
intellect, were a 1-hand+offhand for a caster tends to give more spell
damage.

So, base it off of that. If you are planning to group and run
dungeons, go for whatever gives you more spell damage. If you plan on
using this for PvP until you have enough honor and marks for better
gear, go for the stamina.

Personally, I went with the tunic not only because it had higher spell
damage, but I also was a bit tired of wearing dresses. Felt nice to
dress like a man for a while.

PV

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Mar 3, 2008, 8:37:25 AM3/3/08
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Barry Freeman <ba...@nospam.co.uk> writes:
>So, there are 4 pieces.. but wait.. *2* chest? wtf is that about? A
>Tunic and a Robe ?

It's because some people like one or the other, and there was a big stink
about it early on. I wish they did it more, or gave you a UI choice as to
the form of the chest item. *
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Catriona R

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Mar 3, 2008, 8:55:43 AM3/3/08
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On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 13:37:25 -0000, pv+u...@pobox.com (PV) wrote:

>Barry Freeman <ba...@nospam.co.uk> writes:
>>So, there are 4 pieces.. but wait.. *2* chest? wtf is that about? A
>>Tunic and a Robe ?
>
>It's because some people like one or the other, and there was a big stink
>about it early on. I wish they did it more, or gave you a UI choice as to
>the form of the chest item.

Me too, some characters look better with robes, others with tunics, would
be very nice to have choices more often!
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Matt

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Mar 3, 2008, 8:57:53 AM3/3/08
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On 3 Mar, 14:37, pv+use...@pobox.com (PV) wrote:
> It's because some people like one or the other, and there was a big stink
> about it early on. I wish they did it more, or gave you a UI choice as to
> the form of the chest item. *

Many lower level tailoring "sets" (no set bonus, only matching stats
and looks) have the option of vest/robe with a bit different stats,
seems like they continued this trend on high level sets too.

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Matt

steve.kaye

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Mar 3, 2008, 9:20:55 AM3/3/08
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What's idiotic about giving you more choice about the stats you can
choose for your character?

steve.kaye

RogerM

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Mar 3, 2008, 10:04:48 AM3/3/08
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"steve.kaye" wrote:
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> What's idiotic about giving you more choice about the stats you can
> choose for your character?
>
> steve.kaye

What's idiotic is knowing three patterns of the set, but no bonus
because two of them are for the same location.

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Osoris

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Mar 3, 2008, 10:08:18 AM3/3/08
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Then don't learn 3 patterns if they aren't mutually exclusive, then
you won't be an "idiot".

John Gordon

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Mar 3, 2008, 11:09:23 AM3/3/08
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> What's idiotic is knowing three patterns of the set, but no bonus
> because two of them are for the same location.

If you feel that way, then why did you choose to learn the second
chest pattern? You could have chosen the legs/boots instead.

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Barry Freeman

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Mar 3, 2008, 11:16:00 AM3/3/08
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 06:20:55 -0800 (PST), "steve.kaye"
<nos...@giddy-kippers.co.uk> wrote:

>What's idiotic about giving you more choice about the stats you can
>choose for your character?

It's idiotic that they don't allow me to OP my mage easily :)

My tailor, who has nethweave coming out of every orifice can make
loads of Imbued Netherweave doodads, because my Enchanter is similarly
over-endowed with Arcane Dust.

I merrily crafted the 4 pieces and now find my mage can only use 3.. a
total waste of 30 seconds crafting there.

Osoris

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Mar 3, 2008, 11:46:41 AM3/3/08
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QQ

lcpltom

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Mar 3, 2008, 1:37:05 PM3/3/08
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Thats more or less your own fault for not paying attention to what you
were crafting.

However, if you haven't equipped it yet, you could always DE one of
them, blue item should get you something nice.

mbg...@gmail.com

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Mar 3, 2008, 1:46:10 PM3/3/08
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Make some spell cloth (or Shadow cloth if it suits yer fancy :)) with
all that Imb. Netherweave and then REALLY OP your mage ;). The epic'd
tailor stuff is great.

My shadow priest (who gets much monetary and materials support from
her "older" sibling toons :)) is ready for decking out as soon as she
hits 70. Already got the whole FSW set lined up along with most of
the mats for the Destruction Holo-gogs. I should have her either some
Battlecast Pants or Spell Strike Pants crafted and waiting as well
before 70 (along with the epic spell thread which my mage can already
make).

Combine those items with the Magister's Terrace coming out soon-ish
(I'd wager about when she'll hit 70 - she's just under 64 now), and
that new holiday boss that drops a nice caster staff, and I'd say that
this toon should be very, very well equipped as a new 70 alt :)

Mike

mbg...@gmail.com

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Mar 3, 2008, 1:48:58 PM3/3/08
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On Mar 3, 8:55 am, Catriona R <catrionarNOS...@totalise.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 13:37:25 -0000, pv+use...@pobox.com (PV) wrote:
> >Barry Freeman <b...@nospam.co.uk> writes:
> >>So, there are 4 pieces.. but wait.. *2* chest? wtf is that about? A
> >>Tunic and a Robe ?
>
> >It's because some people like one or the other, and there was a big stink
> >about it early on. I wish they did it more, or gave you a UI choice as to
> >the form of the chest item.
>
> Me too, some characters look better with robes, others with tunics, would
> be very nice to have choices more often!

That is interesting. I've often liked the tunics more, but they rely
heavily on matching up the tunic + pants to look decent, and more
often than not you get goofy looking combinations. That's the reason
I think many people like robes - by covering the whole toon they force
you to match :).

Mike

BLMX

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Mar 3, 2008, 2:25:29 PM3/3/08
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It's probably not a waste right... Don't you need to craft a bunch of
them to level your tailoring? I remember making several on my priest
and selling them on the AH to (presumably) folks whom wanted to DE
them.

Catriona R

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Mar 3, 2008, 2:46:06 PM3/3/08
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Yup, and then of course there's the nice legs that don't cover very much on
female characters... while I'm not too bothered about my blood elf warlock
having those kinds of legs (hey, she's meant to be evil anyway so it's not
that bad looking slutty, even if it's nothing like me in reality), I really
did not appreciate it on my holy priest, but unfortunately at the time I
had no robe to hide them :-S Plus I'm not a massive fan of draenei legs
anyway, they look great wearing a robe but not quite right with a tunic!

mbg...@gmail.com

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Mar 3, 2008, 2:49:15 PM3/3/08
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Most tailors do indeed do this, but you can get by without making
them. I know that you can make it to 355 or so without making any
Imbued Netherweave pieces. At 350 the Arcanoweave Bracer pattern is
available as a drop from Arcatraz, at 360 the boots are available as a
drop from Mechanar, and at 370 the Arcanoweave Robe pattern is
available from the final boss of Mechanaar. Those patterns are much
cheaper to use (if you can obtain them) for leveling than the Imbued
Netherweave pieces.

Mike

lcpltom

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Mar 3, 2008, 3:06:02 PM3/3/08
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On Mar 3, 2:25 pm, BLMX <junkbin5...@comcast.net> wrote:

I made a bunch of these pieces myself, but at the same time, my
brother was leveling his enchanting and needed stuff to DE. So I sent
all these blues his way. In return I have an enchanter whenever I
need one, so it worked out for me.

Barry Freeman

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Mar 4, 2008, 5:09:59 AM3/4/08
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 16:09:23 +0000 (UTC), John Gordon
<gor...@panix.com> wrote:

>> What's idiotic is knowing three patterns of the set, but no bonus
>> because two of them are for the same location.
>
>If you feel that way, then why did you choose to learn the second
>chest pattern? You could have chosen the legs/boots instead.

Because I'm stupid and didn't read the recipe texts before learning
them. :)

I learned and made all four pieces in one shot and it wasn't until I
sent them to my mage and equipped them that I noted that the popup
you get when you mouse over the items always showed 3/4 equipped.

Still, I can swap out the Robe and Tunic depending on whether I'm
soloing (Robe) or Grouping (Tunic) so it's not all bad.


Barry Freeman

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Mar 4, 2008, 5:13:48 AM3/4/08
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:49:15 -0800 (PST), "mbg...@gmail.com"
<mbg...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Most tailors do indeed do this, but you can get by without making
>them. I know that you can make it to 355 or so without making any
>Imbued Netherweave pieces. At 350 the Arcanoweave Bracer pattern is
>available as a drop from Arcatraz, at 360 the boots are available as a
>drop from Mechanar, and at 370 the Arcanoweave Robe pattern is
>available from the final boss of Mechanaar. Those patterns are much
>cheaper to use (if you can obtain them) for leveling than the Imbued
>Netherweave pieces.

Yes, absolutely.. the Imb., netherweave stuff all required netherweb
Spider Silk, which is a low drop from spiders in the Bone Wastes, and
therefore quite pricey on the AH.

I farmed the 8 required Netherweb Spider silk for the Primal Mooncloth
set and hope never to have to do that again.

lcpltom

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Mar 4, 2008, 7:52:33 AM3/4/08
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On Mar 4, 5:13 am, Barry Freeman <b...@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:49:15 -0800 (PST), "mbga...@gmail.com"

I think they buffed the drop rate recently, though I don't think any
patch notes reflected it. I've gotten a few more drops of it in BM
than I used to, and on the AH I've noticed the price falling, an
indication of increased supply. Though that might just mean more
people are farming it on my server.

Doc

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Mar 4, 2008, 8:46:16 AM3/4/08
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"Barry Freeman" <ba...@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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Never really looked at it... maybe the robe is for healers and the tunic for
dps'ers?


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R.C. Payne

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Mar 4, 2008, 9:21:00 AM3/4/08
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I find the easiest way to farm netherweb spider silk is to go into Black
Morass solo and kill the spiders in there. No problems with other
people tagging your mobs either.

steve.kaye

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Mar 4, 2008, 9:47:08 AM3/4/08
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On 4 Mar, 14:21, "R.C. Payne" <rc...@nospam.ac.uk> wrote:
> Barry Freeman wrote:
> > On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:49:15 -0800 (PST), "mbga...@gmail.com"
> > <mbga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I farmed the 8 required Netherweb Spider silk for the Primal Mooncloth
> > set and hope never to have to do that again.
>
> I find the easiest way to farm netherweb spider silk is to go into Black
> Morass solo and kill the spiders in there.  No problems with other
> people tagging your mobs either.

I tried this when I needed them and didn't find the drop rate to be
any better. Also, in BM there are cats and crocs to navigate past as
well. In Terokkar, near the alliance town, there are only spiders to
kill and I have never had much competition there.

steve.kaye

mbg...@gmail.com

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Mar 4, 2008, 10:19:55 AM3/4/08
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On Mar 4, 9:47 am, "steve.kaye" <nos...@giddy-kippers.co.uk> wrote:
> I tried this when I needed them and didn't find the drop rate to be
> any better. Also, in BM there are cats and crocs to navigate past as
> well. In Terokkar, near the alliance town, there are only spiders to
> kill and I have never had much competition there.


Terokkar is where I used to farm it, but I never found the drop rate
TOO bad. In an hour or so of farming I'd get about 10 of them, which
on my server was about 45g. After a while though I found that I could
get about 2.5 Primal Airs per hour farming over on SMV, which was more
like 75g per hour so better profit. These days I don't kill mobs
farming much anymore, and instead just user my two gatherers (my druid
herber or my hunter miner) and go out and farm nodes. The druid works
particularly well since you don't have to shift out of Flight Form to
herb if you can low enough, so if I aggro something while picking the
herb I just fly up until it deaggros, then fly back down when it walks
off.

I did just get a Zapthrottle Mote Extractor on my Priest too. While
I'm not sure it would be worth it to specifically fly around looking
for the clouds at level 70, I can definately say that just carrying
the thing around nets some nice extra money from grabbing the random
gas cloud I notice while leveling.

Mike

Barry Freeman

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Mar 4, 2008, 10:39:22 AM3/4/08
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On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:21:00 +0000, "R.C. Payne" <rc...@nospam.ac.uk>
wrote:

>I find the easiest way to farm netherweb spider silk is to go into Black
>Morass solo and kill the spiders in there. No problems with other
>people tagging your mobs either.

I have to do OHB before BM, I believe... 2 busted runs to OHB this
last weekend..one started, set light to the buildings then my router
died. then got 4/5 people together and the healer dropped out because
he was only 65...

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