5 hours in UBRS and all I got was this lousy Beaststalker belt
Tech Ron
Just have to relay my UBRS story from last night as it was one of the
more interesting instance runs I have ever been on, and was my first
time through UBRS. The run started off just fine, we got the letter or
whatever it was for BWL attune and proceedeed inside, killed the guards
around the entrance and went up the stairs to take on the dragonkin.
Well we dropped them like a sack of potatoes, but just as we were
finishing up the last one, someone pulled a summoner and the rest of
his crew from inside one of the little side rooms. Like I said, i had
never been to UBRS before so I was unaware that there were summoners in
this instance, so I just assisted the MT and started DPSing. Then
someone pulled another group from one of the other side rooms. Needless
to say, with two summoners going and noone in the group even tanking
the summoners we had our first wipe.
Surprisingly not one person left after this, so we came back in and
properly cleared out all the groups from all of the side rooms
(summoners first, now that we had seen what they could do).
At this point our group really started to mesh and started taking down
everyone and everything that moved without even breaking a sweat. Even
when we pulled about 4 guards and 3 dragonkin in the room right after
the rookery we took them down with no deaths. Then we came to that
elemental boss and dropped him with no problem whatsoever. Took down
the next boss (think it was the dragon one, but is a little fuzzy) and
proceeded to the beasts room.
It was our offtank's second time in the instance and once in the place
right next to the beast room, while trying to sneak past the guards, he
managed to pull fully half the room. I was thinking about just
feigning death and waiting for everyone else to die, but then I figured
since I don't have the best gear and my repair costs are generally
pretty low i would stick it out. Well, somehow we managed to kill all
of them with only one or two people dying. At this point we were
feeling pretty good, I mean we had taken down some HUGE pulls and had
only wiped once at the very beginning. We get everyone rezzed and
healed and do a verbal ready check for the beast, noone notices that
one of the mages did not respond to the check (keep that in mind).
So now here we are getting punted around and everyone is doing ok, a
couple people die, but our healers are still alive and one of them is
SSed so even if we do die we figure we'll get another shot at it. I
die when the beast is at about 5% health and sit there and wait for him
to go down or for everyone else to die, at which point the SSed healer
should use his soulstone and res the rest of us. We get him down to
about 1% and then there is only the healer who is out OOM, he dies and
immediately uses his SS and just as quickly gets punted by the beast
and dies. He then says f**k it and leaves the raid and hearths. So
basically he just used our wipe protection to add some extra cost on to
his repair bills and forced us to find a new healer and run all the way
back through the instance. Surpisingly noone else leaves, we find a
replacement healer quickly and get back to the beast, this time with
ten people, instead of nine and one AFK mage.
Again with the punting, I die at about the same point in the fight,
this time we get him down to .22% before everyone is dead. Luckily we
have a smart priest now and he doesn't waste the SS so we can res. The
priest uses his SS and starts to res, but since there are so many of
them and my body is right next to the beast's cave, i figure ill just
run, I make it back with no trouble and get ready to start. Well now
our MT comes on and says he has family troubles and has to go AFK for a
while so we decide to start clearing our way to drak so that we don't
have to do it later. Apparently our offtank was not good enough to
handle this however and we end up wiping. I'm sitting there just
wondering when the inevitable "Guys..." will start coming, signaling
the end of the raid, but it doesn't come, think there might have been a
rogue that left, but he was quickly replaced. So now our MT comes back
and everyone decides they are ready for The Beast. This time we take
him down with no problems (but no Finkle's skinner) and go back over to
start clearing the way to Drak.
We start by taking on the few people in the corner of the room next to
the beast that had not got pulled when we took out the other half of
the room. We got them downed, but it seemed like it was a bit tougher
than it should have been. I didn't really think anything of it and sat
down to drink up. I looked away for a minute to grab a smoke and when I
looked back at the screen, we were apparently in the middle of a fight.
We managed to down the mobs, but when the smoke cleared seven out of
ten were dead, the raid leader had gone offline (someone said he pulled
that mob), and we discovered the reason for the difficulty of the first
fight and our subsequent almost wipe on this one... our MT had gone AFK
again without saying anything and was sitting in the middle of the
beast's room. Raid chat was filled with accusations and threats which
ended with all but me and our replacement priest leaving the raid.
Now I have as much patience as anyone else in sticking through the
tough times in a group, but I figured at this point, we were done, so I
hearthed. Once in IF I ran to pick up my hallow's eve fun bag and
noticed that the priest was still grouped with me, I was just going to
leave party when he says, "make me leader". I didn't know what was
going on, but I made him leader and waited. It turned out that he had
not hearthed out of the instance, but kept it up, as he wanted to
finish it. Within five minutes he had put together a full raid and we
were ready to go, I got back to the instance while the priest hearthed
and ran back to help w/ the pops.
In the meantime, Everyone else decided to start clearing.. big mistake
as half the group wiped sinceneither of our tanks had shown up yet. I
made it through using feign death, but then got distracted by my buddy
who had come home from the bar and ran smack into the middle of another
of those little side rooms, Did FD again and managed to lose them, but
I wasn't far enough away to not pick up aggro when I moved. Luckily
nobody tried to save me and they returned to their room, evidently
having sated their hunger on mail and dwarf's blood. I figured since I
was in a room surrounded by guards, it would probably be best to corpse
run rather than get a res. Well, while I was running back they decided
that they could skip most of the mobs in the rooms and were through the
door at the top of the stairs. I tried to follow the same path that
they had taken, but pulled a bunch of mobs and ended up causing the
first wipe of the night that was definitely my fault. No one said much
and we pushed on. This group finally got things together and reached
Drak with no further wipes or even deaths. We setteled on the kiting
strategy for Drakk and the other hunter in this raid attempted to kite
him. Drak must not have been hungry for hunter, as he began attacking
our druid instead. Thankfully, everyone kept their heads and we were
able to down both of the guards before Drak could take out the druid.
Took down Drak like it was no problem as well. He dropped three
differnet rare items plus my beaststalker belt( which I needed and
won), I got my palm marked and was glad to hearth out and be done with
the most cursed run since the begginning of UBRS. Final tally: Five
raid wipes, ten deaths, 5 hours, 7g repair bill, beaststalker belt, and
two stacks of rugged leather. So was it worth it... hell yes, and I
will be going back tonight.
Sorry for the long winded story, but needed someone to hear about it
TeHKrons
Spud Unger
roll on. i got the pvp set so i dont even respond to whispers to help
kite drek anymore.
Robert S.
Sounds like you made out like a Bandit.
Yelps
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I got my palm marked and was glad to hearth out and be done with
the most cursed run since the begginning of UBRS. Final tally: Five
raid wipes, ten deaths, 5 hours, 7g repair bill, beaststalker belt, and
two stacks of rugged leather. So was it worth it... hell yes, and I
will be going back tonight.
Sorry for the long winded story, but needed someone to hear about it
TeHKrons<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Someone should figure out how many times the average lv 60 end game raider
had to go through UBRS to really "finish" with UBRS.
Its all fun when new to it, but after so many repeats in UBRS it becomes
hated, but hearing a first time experience is fun.
dc
paul...@yahoo.com
> more interesting instance runs I have ever been on, and was my first
> time through UBRS.
UBRS is quite fun (although I can see how it can get old if you've run
it 20x).
I've done it about 5 times now, mostly successful.
We tried the fear kite strategy once on the General guard (burn one,
tank general, fear other) and wiped when the warlock said it ran thru
the wall. Suddenly a lot of mobs from downstairs came boiling up.
Since then we use the Hunter kite strategy.
The other danger place for us was that hatchery. If you break too many
eggs (or get kicked off the upstairs ledge), it can lead to a wipe.
I did ZG20 for the first time last night. We killed a couple bosses
(bloodlord and one other) but wiped repeatedly on the batgirl. We
handled the bat squadrons OK but died each time those bomber guys
showed up.
I think UBRS is a good training ground for ZG20. I think they should
add a few more 10 man raids.
Bruce Grubb
paul...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Just have to relay my UBRS story from last night as it was one of the
> > more interesting instance runs I have ever been on, and was my first
> > time through UBRS.
>
> UBRS is quite fun (although I can see how it can get old if you've run
> it 20x).
> I've done it about 5 times now, mostly successful.
>
> We tried the fear kite strategy once on the General guard (burn one,
> tank general, fear other) and wiped when the warlock said it ran thru
> the wall. Suddenly a lot of mobs from downstairs came boiling up.
> Since then we use the Hunter kite strategy.
>
> The other danger place for us was that hatchery. If you break too many
> eggs (or get kicked off the upstairs ledge), it can lead to a wipe.
Ah the Hatchery. Made famous by Leeroy Jenkins.
Sprite
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> "Tech Ron" <teh_c...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> I got my palm marked and was glad to hearth out and be done with
> the most cursed run since the begginning of UBRS. Final tally: Five
> raid wipes, ten deaths, 5 hours, 7g repair bill, beaststalker belt, and
> two stacks of rugged leather. So was it worth it... hell yes, and I
> will be going back tonight.
>
> Sorry for the long winded story, but needed someone to hear about it
> TeHKrons<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> Someone should figure out how many times the average lv 60 end game raider
> had to go through UBRS to really "finish" with UBRS.
> Its all fun when new to it, but after so many repeats in UBRS it becomes
> hated, but hearing a first time experience is fun.
>
It's ok with the right people, though :)))
I've still not had my Flask of the Titans recipe drop after basically 9
months in the place. All the items I can use (except a helm off Gyth maybe)
I've got or had, and I was lucky to get an Ace of Beasts :))
--
Sue
Mike Gaskins
> UBRS is quite fun (although I can see how it can get old if you've run
> it 20x).
> I've done it about 5 times now, mostly successful.
It'll get old, trust me :). I've run it at least 30 times now, and
have gotten most everything from it that I would want. The only thing
left that I want is the Briarwood Reed (I've seen it drop once but lost
the roll), and I do go back to help one specific guildie try to get his
skinning knife from the beast.
> I think UBRS is a good training ground for ZG20. I think they should
> add a few more 10 man raids.
This I can certainly agree with. My guild does a lot of ZG and AQ20,
but we can only gather up that many people a few times per week
(weekends generally). We do joint MC runs with another guild on
Wednesdays but Mon, Tues, and Thursday is usually pretty dull (I often
will just farm or level an alt on these days). UBRS has just gotten
old, but I've love if they put in some more 10 mans (or even 15 mans).
Mike
Nick Vargish
> raid wipes, ten deaths, 5 hours, 7g repair bill, beaststalker belt, and
> two stacks of rugged leather. So was it worth it... hell yes, and I
> will be going back tonight.
That last sentence made the long read well worth it. Bravo!
I just had a 4-hour LBRS run this morning, similar in many aspects to
your story. :^) Sometimes the hardest-won victories are the most
rewarding.
Nick
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Tech Ron
Yes, and I found out on my second UBRS run just how bad the hatchery
sucks. We had some people who needed to do it for a quest, so we
decided we would take it down. Well, i won't go into specifics of how
it happened, but we wiped (damn there's a lot of those hatchers) and
decided we would just try to move past it... big mistake. Next time I
won't attempt that one unless we have a crapload of mages and warriors.
We moved up to the top ledge and started clearing towards the next
boss. Problem was that someone got too close to the edge and managed
to aggro the twenty or so hatchers that were pacing back and forth in
the hatchery. Well a couple of people survived it, not sure how as
they didn't kill them all (does shadowmeld work to drop aggro?), and
we got everyone rezzed and healed and moved on. Got to the bosses room
and started clearing out the guys that came through the gates. Well,
about the third group of dragonspawns to come through, there were
suddenly about twenty of the guards taking us out, not sure where they
came from, but after they annihalated us they ran through the closed
gate at the opposite end of the room from where the people normally
come from. Someone said you can't continue if you wipe in that room so
the group disbanded and we all went about our lives. While I was
sitting there waiting to ressurect at the GY, I looked up at the
balcony and there were about ten more of the guards, standing there
gangster style like they had just called in a hit on our raid and were
watching to make sure that the job was finished. So from this
experience I have two questions. 1) Were these guards called in
because we started the FF thing and didn't finish? 2) Why if you wipe
in the dragon boss room can't you go on (or was that just someone
trying to break up the raid so they could leave and save face)?
Eric D. Braden
<snip>
> 1) Were these guards called in
> because we started the FF thing and didn't finish? 2) Why if you wipe
> in the dragon boss room can't you go on (or was that just someone
> trying to break up the raid so they could leave and save face)?
1) As far as I know, those guards appear when you start the Rend event
(where the mobs come out of the gate) and are just spectators.
2) That's the end. If you don't successfully complete the Rend event,
you're done with that run. It stinks ><
And the reason you wiped is classically blamed on hunters. Sometimes,
if a hunter jumps down from the balcony, his pet will come down to join
him the conventional way (to the right when you're up top) and aggro
the large number of mobs on the way. This is why you see a lot of
spastic "DISMISS ALL PETS OMGWTF" from various tools in the group when
you jump off that ledge.
John Gordon
> we got everyone rezzed and healed and moved on. Got to the bosses room
> and started clearing out the guys that came through the gates. Well,
> about the third group of dragonspawns to come through, there were
> suddenly about twenty of the guards taking us out, not sure where they
> came from
Soon after starting the Rend event, a bunch of orc spectators appear and
stand on the balcony to watch the fun. It's all too easy to target one
of these guys by accident and shoot them with a spell or a gun, which
makes them all come down and kill you. It sounds like this is what
happened to you.
> 2) Why if you wipe
> in the dragon boss room can't you go on (or was that just someone
> trying to break up the raid so they could leave and save face)?
No, it's true. If you wipe on the Rend event, you're done. The only way
back into the arena is to jump off the balcony -- but it's full of orc
spectators.
And the waves of dragonkin don't stop coming, so by the time you could
make it all the way back to the arena, it's filled with mobs.
--
John Gordon "It's certainly uncontaminated by cheese."
gor...@panix.com
Tech Ron
that explains some of what happened then. Now I am just wondering who
it was that targeted one of them. I know hunters take a lot of blame
for wipes, and I have caused a few of them, but never from jumping with
my pet out. Even in gnomer when I was still a newb, I knew better than
to jump with my pet out, so that was definitely not what caused it.
The couple of wipes that my pet was the cause of happened when I had
someone targeted to begin a fight, and decided to change what skills my
pet was going to use but clicked left, instead of right, so my pet took
off and I wasn't able to push passive again in time to bring him back
before he was in aggro range.
As for someone targeting one of the guards up top, that is a definite
possiblity, but I know it wasn't me as I have a MT assist macro set up,
so unless he had targeted one of them I was not the cause of it. About
the only only other possibility that I can think of is that I was
standing farther back from the gate this time, than I was the first
time through UBRS, so maybe I aggroed someone through the gate. Which
if that is what happened, really pisses me off, as the damn guards
should not be able to run through iron bars, let alone me being able to
aggro them.
Wait a minute, I know I ran through this room after wiping at the beast
my first time through UBRS, where do those guards up on the balcony go
when the fight is over, do they just disperse or do they join the fight
at some point?
Bruce Grubb
Warlocks Pets are just as dumb. As far as pets are concerned AI stands for
Artificial Idiot.
AlphaWoolf
<gor...@panix.com> wrote:
>In <1161976532....@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> "Tech Ron" <teh_c...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> we got everyone rezzed and healed and moved on. Got to the bosses room
>> and started clearing out the guys that came through the gates. Well,
>> about the third group of dragonspawns to come through, there were
>> suddenly about twenty of the guards taking us out, not sure where they
>> came from
>
>Soon after starting the Rend event, a bunch of orc spectators appear and
>stand on the balcony to watch the fun. It's all too easy to target one
>of these guys by accident and shoot them with a spell or a gun, which
>makes them all come down and kill you. It sounds like this is what
>happened to you.
Yep, it used to be SOP to announce to the raid "No tab-targetting,
EVER", while in the arena. Apparently this knowledge is not as
strongly taught to the new generations of players (whippsnappers!).
Rule #2 was dismiss pets before jumping down (and also crossing the
Rookery floor). And rule #3 - No AFKs on the balcony.
I've seen the spectators pulled 3 times in over 100 UBRS runs over 3
characters:
1. Egotistical mage (aren't they all?) intentionally frostbolts a
spectator. While we watched, he ran to the doorway where they would
emerge and died a quick death at their hands. Then they deaggro'd and
went back upstairs. It was quite a heart-stopping stunt, and it also
proves you can recover from this situation if recognized early and
thoughtfully.
2. Not sure how the spectators were pulled. We kept fighting. And
fighting. Dragonkin waves come, we're still fighting. And fighting.
We're dropping the last orcs when Gyth comes out. About half of us
ended up dead but we survived. This was a PuG no less! And then we
wiped on the very next pull, lol. I don't even think we finished.
The stress of the Rend fight just burnt the group out I suppose. This
was also back in the 15-man UBRS raid days; I doubt 10 could pull it
off unless over-geared for being there.
3. Standard "Oh $#%^!" wipe, heh. They couldn't all be winners now
could they?
FWIW I've seen tons of close calls with AFK people lingering on the
balcony. Raid chat fills up with desperate "Jump!" recommendations
pretty quickly. :)
Gnuthulhu, Undead Warlock
Fthagn, Undead Warrior
Rhyleya, Troll Hunter
Wydefoote, Tauren Shaman
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Yiptastic
1) LBRS
2) UBRS
3) MC
That being said, I have tanked UBRS thousand of times with my pally,
and DPS with him too. I have deliberately wipe stupid pugs before and
hell that was fun. I also made a ton of gold from the instance by DE
drops and skinning mobs. ZOMG RUGGED LEATHER!!
but ever since I became a PvPPer, UBRS became a hellish run to me. TOO
BLOODY LONG.
tommy
"Yiptastic" <brian_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> My top three most hated instances are:
>
> 1) LBRS
> 2) UBRS
> 3) MC
I'd agree that LBRS is #1.
1) LBRS
2) Zul'Farrak (hate this place so much)
3) ST (boring and I still get lost at 60 :)
Yiptastic
I think I've only completed once of that instance throughout my 2 years
of gaming.
I started raiding UBRS with my guild pre MC, and we could finish the
instance within 45 minutes in our blues. I was lucky for getting my LF
stuff in the first 2 runs. The guild leader was like, OH you don't
have LF shoulder. yeah, take it. it's yours, without me saying a
thing...
I just wish that works with Might of Menethil.