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Babe Bridou

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Aug 13, 2006, 10:27:22 AM8/13/06
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Or don't I?

Full Dal'Rend Set (1% crit, 50 AP, +30 agi from enchants): check
Barbarous Blade (1% crit, 60 AP, +25 agi from enchant): check
2*Bone Slicing Hatchets (26 agi, +30 agi from enchants): check
Vanquisher Sword (28 attack power, +15 agi from enchant): check

I need a brother for the vanquisher sword: which one do you think I
should hunt for now? Bonescraper (30 AP, rivendare drop) looks good.
Soulrender could work too (28 AP, some silithus duke drops it). Damn
it's not easy finding a hunter weapon as good as the vanquisher, the
fact that it's a quest reward from Razorfen Downs, available at level
34, still amazes me!

ah, I have it: Ribsplitter of Agility, 10 AP, 11 agility or of attack
power! now where to hunt that one... bind on equip world drop from
BRD?! I'll have to check the AH for it...

Also on my wishlist: demonslayer (99 AP against demons, world drop),
finkle's skinner (45 AP against beasts, the beast), specter's blade (45
AP against undead, some death knight in scholomance, not sure if he
still exists)... what else?

Also for Orion Ryder: Dal'Rend set is called Dal'Rend's Arms, and is
composed of a Sacred Charge main hand and a Tribal Guardian off hand -
one of the many tributes to Diablo2 :)

Mor'ladim

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Aug 13, 2006, 12:22:54 PM8/13/06
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> Or don't I?
>
> Full Dal'Rend Set (1% crit, 50 AP, +30 agi from enchants): check
> Barbarous Blade (1% crit, 60 AP, +25 agi from enchant): check
> 2*Bone Slicing Hatchets (26 agi, +30 agi from enchants): check
> Vanquisher Sword (28 attack power, +15 agi from enchant): check
>
> I need a brother for the vanquisher sword: which one do you think I
> should hunt for now? Bonescraper (30 AP, rivendare drop) looks good.
> Soulrender could work too (28 AP, some silithus duke drops it). Damn
> it's not easy finding a hunter weapon as good as the vanquisher, the
> fact that it's a quest reward from Razorfen Downs, available at level
> 34, still amazes me!

Is Vanquisher Sword really that good then? The quest to get it is req lvl
39 at least alliance side, maybe your confusing it with SM Quest :)
Only has 30.0dps, though I'm guessing for a hunter you want the AP. My 39
warrior has alot of AP, mark of kern, assault band and gauntlets of
divinity. I use Sword of Serenity and the Aegis shield, maybe I should get
the vanquisher and go fury, though theres no +hit around.

Damn I assumed Soulrender would have some other stats as it "only" has 28
AP, same as Vanquisher yet is about 18 levels higher


Babe Bridou

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Aug 13, 2006, 12:35:29 PM8/13/06
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Mor'ladim a écrit :

> > Or don't I?
> >
> > Full Dal'Rend Set (1% crit, 50 AP, +30 agi from enchants): check
> > Barbarous Blade (1% crit, 60 AP, +25 agi from enchant): check
> > 2*Bone Slicing Hatchets (26 agi, +30 agi from enchants): check
> > Vanquisher Sword (28 attack power, +15 agi from enchant): check
> >
> > I need a brother for the vanquisher sword: which one do you think I
> > should hunt for now? Bonescraper (30 AP, rivendare drop) looks good.
> > Soulrender could work too (28 AP, some silithus duke drops it). Damn
> > it's not easy finding a hunter weapon as good as the vanquisher, the
> > fact that it's a quest reward from Razorfen Downs, available at level
> > 34, still amazes me!
>
> Is Vanquisher Sword really that good then? The quest to get it is req lvl
> 39 at least alliance side, maybe your confusing it with SM Quest :)

Ah, my bad, thottbot says this level 42 quest is "available at level
37" on horde side, and (lol?) "available at level 39" on alliance side.
Now that's quite the inconsistence!

> Damn I assumed Soulrender would have some other stats as it "only" has 28
> AP, same as Vanquisher yet is about 18 levels higher

Yes, the Vanquisher sword is *that good*. Get it, and keep it all the
way if you're a hunter and not really interested in the melee dps. It's
one of these alien items from outer space, that you get at an
unexplicably low level.

The Stonefist Girdle is also of that kind: this mail belt, quest reward
from Razorfen Kraul, has more armour than any blue mail belt in the
game, and more than most epic mail belt.

The Dual Reinforced Leggings, quest reward from gnomeregan, also has
the best AC to be found on blue mail pants in the game, and come with a
+5 defense to boot.

There are more little items like that that are worth another look :)

Catriona R

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Aug 13, 2006, 1:39:57 PM8/13/06
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On 13 Aug 2006 09:35:29 -0700, "Babe Bridou" <babeb...@hotmail.com>
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>Mor'ladim a écrit :


>> Is Vanquisher Sword really that good then? The quest to get it is req lvl
>> 39 at least alliance side, maybe your confusing it with SM Quest :)
>
>Ah, my bad, thottbot says this level 42 quest is "available at level
>37" on horde side, and (lol?) "available at level 39" on alliance side.
>Now that's quite the inconsistence!

Yup it's definitely 39 on Alliance side, my paladin visited the questgiver
several times through the late 30s, always forgetting I couldn't get it
yet! Seemed to get it lower on Horde, I'm pretty sure I was only 37 or 38
when I did that one there, which makes no sense at all when it's basically
the exact same quest (same objective and rewards anyway)
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Babe Bridou

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Aug 13, 2006, 3:00:36 PM8/13/06
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Catriona R a écrit :

> On 13 Aug 2006 09:35:29 -0700, "Babe Bridou" <babeb...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Mor'ladim a écrit :
> >> Is Vanquisher Sword really that good then? The quest to get it is req lvl
> >> 39 at least alliance side, maybe your confusing it with SM Quest :)
> >
> >Ah, my bad, thottbot says this level 42 quest is "available at level
> >37" on horde side, and (lol?) "available at level 39" on alliance side.
> >Now that's quite the inconsistence!
>
> Yup it's definitely 39 on Alliance side, my paladin visited the questgiver
> several times through the late 30s, always forgetting I couldn't get it
> yet! Seemed to get it lower on Horde, I'm pretty sure I was only 37 or 38
> when I did that one there, which makes no sense at all when it's basically
> the exact same quest (same objective and rewards anyway)

You could argue that it was a bit different for the horde at some point
due to a significant population inside gnomeregan being aggressive and
flagged as... <civilian> -_-'

Don't know if they fixed this since, it's been a while.

Babe Bridou

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Aug 13, 2006, 3:02:20 PM8/13/06
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Babe Bridou a écrit :

> You could argue that it was a bit different for the horde at some point
> due to a significant population inside gnomeregan being aggressive and
> flagged as... <civilian> -_-'
>
> Don't know if they fixed this since, it's been a while.

(of course I was completely stoned when I wrote this - somehow I was
absolutely certain you were talking about the quest in gnomeregan)

Catriona R

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Aug 13, 2006, 3:21:32 PM8/13/06
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On 13 Aug 2006 12:02:20 -0700, "Babe Bridou" <babeb...@hotmail.com>
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>

Hehehe that is just the kind of mistake I make all too often :-) And yeah
those civilians in gnomeregan are a pain, my UD priest went through with a
60 friend (hate the place so I didn't fancy a pug) and we avoided them ok
but he was begging me not to aggro any of them as he didn't want any DKs
;-)

Doc

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Aug 14, 2006, 12:06:19 AM8/14/06
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"Babe Bridou" <babeb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Or don't I?
>
> Full Dal'Rend Set (1% crit, 50 AP, +30 agi from enchants): check
> Barbarous Blade (1% crit, 60 AP, +25 agi from enchant): check
> 2*Bone Slicing Hatchets (26 agi, +30 agi from enchants): check
> Vanquisher Sword (28 attack power, +15 agi from enchant): check

The twin blades of Hakkari set (+1% crit, +68ap, potential +30 agi from
enchants. Sucky set bonus for a Hunter though, +6 Sword skill :)

The off-hand drops from Bloodlord Mandokir... about 5% I believe.
Main-hand drops from Hakkar - only 2.5% drop rate though.

> I need a brother for the vanquisher sword: which one do you think I

Chromatically tempered sword (14 agi) ... good luck convincing Chromaggus to
part with one though :) And good luck winning it ahead of a Fury warrior or
Rogue:)


Realistically though, I know of at least one MC equipped Hunter that still
carries 2x Bone Slicing Hatchets with 15 agi on each.

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Babe Bridou

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Aug 14, 2006, 2:51:22 AM8/14/06
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Doc a écrit :

> "Babe Bridou" <babeb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1155479242.2...@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
> > Or don't I?
> >
> > Full Dal'Rend Set (1% crit, 50 AP, +30 agi from enchants): check
> > Barbarous Blade (1% crit, 60 AP, +25 agi from enchant): check
> > 2*Bone Slicing Hatchets (26 agi, +30 agi from enchants): check
> > Vanquisher Sword (28 attack power, +15 agi from enchant): check
>
> The twin blades of Hakkari set (+1% crit, +68ap, potential +30 agi from
> enchants. Sucky set bonus for a Hunter though, +6 Sword skill :)
>
> The off-hand drops from Bloodlord Mandokir... about 5% I believe.
> Main-hand drops from Hakkar - only 2.5% drop rate though.

A warrior has the full set in my guild. It looks cool.

>
> > I need a brother for the vanquisher sword: which one do you think I
>
> Chromatically tempered sword (14 agi) ... good luck convincing Chromaggus to
> part with one though :) And good luck winning it ahead of a Fury warrior or
> Rogue:)
>
>
> Realistically though, I know of at least one MC equipped Hunter that still
> carries 2x Bone Slicing Hatchets with 15 agi on each.

Aye, it seems tough to me to be thinking about competition with melee
classes about weapons. Especially as we have that rule in guild that
alts don't earn nor spend dkp in raids, so I actually have to be in a
raid where a weapon drops and nobody else needs it.

As a matter of fact, the last time a Halberd of Smiting dropped, it was
sharded - now that would have been a cool hunter weapon to claim :)

Update: I now have my first batch of 4 essences of air - going to
enchant the dal'rends.

My next weapon upgrade would be the Primal Blessing set I guess.

Valjean

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Aug 14, 2006, 5:02:51 AM8/14/06
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"Babe Bridou" <babeb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Or don't I?
>
> Full Dal'Rend Set (1% crit, 50 AP, +30 agi from enchants): check
> Barbarous Blade (1% crit, 60 AP, +25 agi from enchant): check
> 2*Bone Slicing Hatchets (26 agi, +30 agi from enchants): check
> Vanquisher Sword (28 attack power, +15 agi from enchant): check
>


Surely everyone who knows the class - loot relationship would realise that
to have all hunter weapons would mean having one of every weapon in the
game. I am not sure I have enough bag space....

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Babe Bridou

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Aug 14, 2006, 5:58:16 AM8/14/06
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Valjean a écrit :

> Surely everyone who knows the class - loot relationship would realise that
> to have all hunter weapons would mean having one of every weapon in the
> game. I am not sure I have enough bag space....

That's precisely the very reason why hunters should have first dibs on
bags from Onyxia.

Ville-Matti Kiili

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Aug 14, 2006, 6:07:58 AM8/14/06
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Babe Bridou <babeb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Full Dal'Rend Set (1% crit, 50 AP, +30 agi from enchants): check
> Barbarous Blade (1% crit, 60 AP, +25 agi from enchant): check
> 2*Bone Slicing Hatchets (26 agi, +30 agi from enchants): check
> Vanquisher Sword (28 attack power, +15 agi from enchant): check

Huntsman's harpoon? 35 AGI, +25 AGI from enchant. :)

I'm happy with ice barbed spear with +25 AGI enchant, though.

Warr

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"Babe Bridou" <babeb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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A good list for non-20 + Man Raids.


Babe Bridou

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Ville-Matti Kiili a écrit :

> Babe Bridou <babeb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Full Dal'Rend Set (1% crit, 50 AP, +30 agi from enchants): check
> > Barbarous Blade (1% crit, 60 AP, +25 agi from enchant): check
> > 2*Bone Slicing Hatchets (26 agi, +30 agi from enchants): check
> > Vanquisher Sword (28 attack power, +15 agi from enchant): check
>
> Huntsman's harpoon? 35 AGI, +25 AGI from enchant. :)
>

Aye! I forgot that one!

hmm, tier0.5 quest... might be tough to hunt!

> I'm happy with ice barbed spear with +25 AGI enchant, though.

Well, I picked the crossbow, so that rules that one out for me :)

Orion Ryder

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Aug 14, 2006, 2:29:01 PM8/14/06
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Heh heh, here I am reading this post and thinking that this thread has
the perfect post for printing out and keeping handy for info on the
Hunter that I am going to build, info at least for the weapons and I
get to the bottom of the post and see that your telepathic ESP
dooper-snooper "talents" have already determined that I was going to
get "Eyes Wide Lit Up" when I saw the title.

Now I have to scurry through the remaining posts and see if there are
other tasty treats.

Orion

AlphaWoolf

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Aug 15, 2006, 5:34:04 AM8/15/06
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On 13 Aug 2006 23:51:22 -0700, "Babe Bridou" <babeb...@hotmail.com>
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>

That weapon looks so cool, but man is it crap. No stats at all, just
one of those cheesy damage procs (extra useless for a hunter). As a
hunter that prefers polearms (currently wielding the Ice Barbed Spear)
I don't see many worthwhile polearm upgrades on the horizon. I think
there's a good one from AQ40 but that's waaaaaay off.

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Christian Stauffer

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Aug 15, 2006, 5:42:14 AM8/15/06
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"AlphaWoolf" <alpha...@yourcoatsbcglobal.net> wrote:

> That weapon looks so cool, but man is it crap. No stats at all, just
> one of those cheesy damage procs (extra useless for a hunter). As a
> hunter that prefers polearms (currently wielding the Ice Barbed Spear)
> I don't see many worthwhile polearm upgrades on the horizon. I think
> there's a good one from AQ40 but that's waaaaaay off.

Don't talk about preference. I can't stand to see my dwarf with
anything but a huge axe. Currently I'm using the lord alexander's,
but it's really not a great one (the 15str are useless). The only
high level Axe I see would be an arcanite reaper (too expensive).

Ok, there's still the barbarous blade which is almost counting
as an axe by looks :-)

Chris

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Babe Bridou

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Aug 15, 2006, 5:49:24 AM8/15/06
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AlphaWoolf a écrit :

It's not only a good one, the halberd from huhuran is one of the best.
There's a cheesy hunter weapon drop in naxxramas too, with
+gun/box/xbow skill, but I can't remember the name of it.

The halberd of smiting is probably the best hard hitting melee weapon a
hunter could hope to have in his hands on horde side, simply because no
one else seems to want it or spend dkp on it - and grinding for an
arcanite reaper seems to be a very dull choice.

Reason enough for it to go into the hands of a hunter alt, I guess ;)

Simon Nejmann

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Aug 15, 2006, 6:53:40 AM8/15/06
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On 15 Aug 2006 02:49:24 -0700, "Babe Bridou" <babeb...@hotmail.com>
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>AlphaWoolf a écrit :

>> That weapon looks so cool, but man is it crap. No stats at all, just
>> one of those cheesy damage procs (extra useless for a hunter). As a
>> hunter that prefers polearms (currently wielding the Ice Barbed Spear)
>> I don't see many worthwhile polearm upgrades on the horizon. I think
>> there's a good one from AQ40 but that's waaaaaay off.
>
>It's not only a good one, the halberd from huhuran is one of the best.

Barb of the Sand Reaver -
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=21635

>There's a cheesy hunter weapon drop in naxxramas too, with
>+gun/box/xbow skill, but I can't remember the name of it.

The Eye of Nerub - http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=23039

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AlphaWoolf

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Aug 16, 2006, 5:51:29 AM8/16/06
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:42:14 +0200, "Christian Stauffer"
<wildc...@bluewin.ch> wrote:

>"AlphaWoolf" <alpha...@yourcoatsbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> That weapon looks so cool, but man is it crap. No stats at all, just
>> one of those cheesy damage procs (extra useless for a hunter). As a
>> hunter that prefers polearms (currently wielding the Ice Barbed Spear)
>> I don't see many worthwhile polearm upgrades on the horizon. I think
>> there's a good one from AQ40 but that's waaaaaay off.
>
>Don't talk about preference. I can't stand to see my dwarf with
>anything but a huge axe. Currently I'm using the lord alexander's,
>but it's really not a great one (the 15str are useless). The only
>high level Axe I see would be an arcanite reaper (too expensive).
>
>Ok, there's still the barbarous blade which is almost counting
>as an axe by looks :-)

Hey it's a big cleaver, close enough to an axe in my book. :)

Apoptygma

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Aug 17, 2006, 6:19:59 AM8/17/06
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> Yes, the Vanquisher sword is *that good*. Get it, and keep it all the
> way if you're a hunter and not really interested in the melee dps. It's
> one of these alien items from outer space, that you get at an
> unexplicably low level.
>
> The Stonefist Girdle is also of that kind: this mail belt, quest reward
> from Razorfen Kraul, has more armour than any blue mail belt in the
> game, and more than most epic mail belt.
>
> The Dual Reinforced Leggings, quest reward from gnomeregan, also has
> the best AC to be found on blue mail pants in the game, and come with a
> +5 defense to boot.
>
> There are more little items like that that are worth another look :)

Amazing info - just emailed it to myself so i can thott them when i get
home from work, my tank thanks you muchly lotsm!!! any more uber items
i should look out for? keep the list coming!

As for my contribution i've found that the hat dropped 30% from the
female boss in the SM cath. is uber for that level and i've seen a
number of cothies running around with it in their high 50's still!
doan's caster drops are worth a mention too, as well as the trirune
ammy which i've still got a few of my 60 casters

burns...@yahoo.com

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Aug 17, 2006, 9:49:03 AM8/17/06
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Babe Bridou wrote:
> Mor'ladim a écrit :
>
> > > Or don't I?
> > >
> > > Full Dal'Rend Set (1% crit, 50 AP, +30 agi from enchants): check
> > > Barbarous Blade (1% crit, 60 AP, +25 agi from enchant): check
> > > 2*Bone Slicing Hatchets (26 agi, +30 agi from enchants): check
> > > Vanquisher Sword (28 attack power, +15 agi from enchant): check

I recently got a lucky drop in SM and got the Ravager axe. Very nice
for BGs when I need to do melee, but no +agil. I was only using axes w/
+10gil between two hands, so sacrificing them in my late 30s didn't
hurt me much.

Assuming I get a +25 agil enchant on it, how long is the ravager good
for? Can I expect to have it through to my late 50s, or will I need
more hunter-friendly items before that?

Clearly the 2x Bone Slicing Hatchets will give me a huge DPS boost, but
I doubt I'll be farming them anytime soon.

Babe Bridou

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burns...@yahoo.com a écrit :

> I recently got a lucky drop in SM and got the Ravager axe. Very nice
> for BGs when I need to do melee, but no +agil. I was only using axes w/
> +10gil between two hands, so sacrificing them in my late 30s didn't
> hurt me much.
>
> Assuming I get a +25 agil enchant on it, how long is the ravager good
> for? Can I expect to have it through to my late 50s, or will I need
> more hunter-friendly items before that?

Frankly, any weapon with a +25 agi enchant on it is a level 60 hunter
weapon. You don't exactly *need* enchants: they are really expensive.
I've played since level 1 without enchants, and yeah I was really happy
with my dual bone slicing hatchets, it gave me a nice damage boost (+26
agi).

Unless you really want to go for an optimum, you can just slap an
enchant on a cool weapon, and be happy.

Christian Stauffer

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Aug 17, 2006, 10:17:26 AM8/17/06
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"Babe Bridou" <babeb...@hotmail.com> wrote:

burns...@yahoo.com a écrit :

Sidenote: I won the ravager as a greed roll, I still carry it around,
and if we go to BRD tonight, to the lyceum to be correctly, I'll
use it again.
Having that said: Although I never really played PvP with the hunter
yet, I can imagine the ravager to be about the worst melee weapon
in PvP you can have. Because when it procs you stand in the middle
and there's nothing you can do to stop it. Unless I'm really blind
and just didn't figure out how - hrm maybe there's a buff icon I
could right click? Anyway, I'm pretty sure you can't stop the
whirlwind proc, except by using another ability (wing clip, or a
shot for example), but I'm note sure how practical that is in mass
PvP.

Catriona R

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Aug 17, 2006, 11:05:59 AM8/17/06
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On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:17:26 +0200, "Christian Stauffer"
<wildc...@bluewin.ch> wrote:

>Having that said: Although I never really played PvP with the hunter
>yet, I can imagine the ravager to be about the worst melee weapon
>in PvP you can have. Because when it procs you stand in the middle
>and there's nothing you can do to stop it. Unless I'm really blind
>and just didn't figure out how - hrm maybe there's a buff icon I
>could right click? Anyway, I'm pretty sure you can't stop the
>whirlwind proc, except by using another ability (wing clip, or a
>shot for example), but I'm note sure how practical that is in mass
>PvP.

Only way to stop it is using another ability, yeah, my paladin has it and
it drives me mad (I just use other weapons most of the time but kept it for
the fun value for when I'm just damage dealing and not wanting to do
anything else) There is a buff icon but it doesn't go away when you
right-click it.


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Neil Jones

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Aug 17, 2006, 3:07:41 PM8/17/06
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In article <1155635364.4...@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, Babe
Bridou <babeb...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> The halberd of smiting is probably the best hard hitting melee weapon a
> hunter could hope to have in his hands on horde side, simply because no
> one else seems to want it or spend dkp on it - and grinding for an
> arcanite reaper seems to be a very dull choice.
>
> Reason enough for it to go into the hands of a hunter alt, I guess ;)

One of our warriors got it the other night, and there was no suggestion
whatsoever that a hunter should have it. My hunter's been using the
Barbarous Blade for months now, and I don't see why a hunter would ever
choose the halberd over that... it's not as if we should be doing any
actual *hitting* with it, after all! Blade has crit *and* 60 AP... not
seen a better hunter weapon up to MC...

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Babe Bridou

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Aug 17, 2006, 5:25:42 PM8/17/06
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Neil Jones a écrit :

you're talking about hunter weapons, and barbarous blade is among the
best.
I'm talking about "hunterweapon" here. In that case a weapon that has
been sharded and would have looked cool in the hands of a hunter - and
of course be giving free hks from time to time when the hunter bothers
to equip it and gets lucky with the raptor strike button.

today one of our warriors got an obsidian elemental blade and vendored
his halberd of smiting to save some space in his inventory.

...says enough?

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