$99 GAMECUBE SEALS X-BOX FATE...
Bass Guitar God
affordable enough for most people to have.
The X-box will survive, but will be relegated to a "distant 3rd" specialty
system like the Panasonic 3D0 or Phillips CD-I was.
It has more and better games than X-box, and with the GBA player, it is now,
aside from all that, also the #1 source for a whole new crop of 2-D classics,
Super-NES style!! You get the best of both worlds.
"My life is as good as an ABBA song" - line from "Muriel's Wedding"
man...@nospam.com
wrote:
>The Gamecube is just as powerful as the X-Box, does better graphics and is now
>affordable enough for most people to have.
? i thougth the trolls in the gc group were bad.. sheesh. it's
spreading!
what kind of dumbass are you? better graphics.. lol.
affordable yes.
>The X-box will survive, but will be relegated to a "distant 3rd" specialty
>system like the Panasonic 3D0 or Phillips CD-I was.
and we should beleive this based on the asinine statemens you started
this with? or the out and out lies you ended it with?
>It has more and better games than X-box, and with the GBA player, it is now,
>aside from all that, also the #1 source for a whole new crop of 2-D classics,
>Super-NES style!! You get the best of both worlds.
more games? lol. how bout more lies?
gamecube 230
xbox 298
and i suppose if you wanna fork out for an adapter, you can play gba
games.. but then what is the point of having a gba? or a supernes? i
still have one btw, as do many folks in these ngs.
>"My life is as good as an ABBA song" - line from "Muriel's Wedding"
>
He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot, but don't let that
fool you. He really is an idiot.
- Groucho Marx
Mike
2? Where's Half-Life 2? Where's Area-51? Where's Fable and KOTOR? It's
the games that make the system... and unfortunately, Nintendo can only take
Mario and Link so far.
"Bass Guitar God" <drsmi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Bass Guitar God
>games..
That's what I'm talking about. That's why I said "with the GBA Player".
>but then what is the point of having a gba?
To play the games when you're on the go, obviously, and the games are so good,
they can be played at home on the BIG SCREEN, and you forget it's for a
handheld game :)
>or a supernes? i
>still have one btw, as do many folks in these ngs.
I assume you're talking about the "Super Game Boy" for the SNES. You couldn't
play the games "Full Screen" on it. You can on the GBA player..
Bass Guitar God
>2? Where's Half-Life 2? Where's Area-51? Where's Fable and KOTOR? It's
>the games that make the system...
Where's Mario Sunshine on Xbox? Where's F Zero GX? Where's IKARUGA? Zelda?
You're right, it's the games that make the system. And with the advent of the
GBA PLAYER, the gamecube can play THOUSANDS MORE games... Game Boy, Game Boy
Color, and Game Boy Advance... all on the big screen.
I'll admit thought that I always though "Blood wake" looks very cool, but
that's about it.
Steven Hurdle
> It has more and better games than X-box, and with the GBA player, it is
now,
> aside from all that, also the #1 source for a whole new crop of 2-D
classics,
> Super-NES style!! You get the best of both worlds.
Of course, once you add a GB Player (it's not called a "GBA player", BTW)
it's also not $99.99 USD anymore. And don't forget to purchase a memory
card or two.
I picked up a Gamecube after the price drop, but the only game I've
picked up so far is the emulated version of the 1982 Star Wars arcade game.
I might pick up Pikmin or Eternal Darkness pre-owned, but compared to the
30+ Xbox games I have the pickings seem slip on the GCN to me. I was lucky
in that I had a standing offer to be gifted a memory card by a friend if I
ever bought a GCN because he had a spare 16x card. I doubt I would have
picked up the system if I'd had to accessorise it right off the bat, I'm too
spoiled on having everything I need for the basics of gaming (like, oh, I
don't know, being able to save my games) right out of the box on the Xbox.
It's a nice little system, but it feels like a real step down with no
hard drive, no online play, etc. I bought it because it was inexpensive
(and I got a preowned one at that) so it wasn't much to risk but it doesn't
look like Nintendo will be getting a very good attach rate out of me. It's
a good move for Nintendo to boost unit sales but the real trick will be
whether it boosts software sales or not. Without putting too fine a point
on it, people like me buying it as an inexpensive curiosity to add to their
collection or people buying it because they can't/won't afford an Xbox or
PS2 are unlikely to be buying a large number of games. Nintendo may pull
ahead of the Xbox in unit sales yet stay behind them in game sales (they've
been behind the Xbox in game sales for a while now, from all the numbers
I've seen, and fairly decisively so in some markets). As for multiplatform
people like me, most of us will probably continue to favour Xbox versions
because of the convenience of the hard drive and because multiplatform games
tend to be best on the Xbox even if only by a smidgeon sometimes. It might
hurt the PS2 some if PS2 owners (who don't own Xboxes) pick up GCNs because
they're cheap and then favour GCN versions over PS2 versions, but those
people are probably likely to have picked up an Xbox by now too. The
hardware's not the most expensive part of gaming anyway.
Jet Alert
all ready if not for their money being pumped into it. The system hasn't
done well enough to survive nor has the GC. Im not sure why companies like
losing money just because their pride gets in the way. Both GC and Xbox
should have folded.
Giants Rule
Game Cubes in order to sell off current over produced stock.
Bass Guitar God
>it's also not $99.99 USD anymore. And don't forget to purchase a memory
>card or two.
I paid $149.99 for my Gamecube at Gamestop, and got a GB Player free, so
essentially, I got my GC for $99 ahead of schedule :)
> It's a nice little system, but it feels like a real step down with no
>hard drive,
I got a mega memory card with OVER 1,000 blocks, which is just as good in my
book. Also, DON'T FORGET Gamecube, like it's predicessor, supports 4 players
right out of the box.
>no online play, etc.
Online play is a FAD. A fad which is going nowhere quick. Videogames, first and
foremost, are to be played human against CPU.
Bass Guitar God
Xbox should step down because the market only has room for 2 consoles, and
those should be Sega and Nintendo.
Bass Guitar God
>Game Cubes in order to sell off current over produced stock.
Maybe we'll see "Jerry" from the Big Lots! commercials showing closeout
shoppers how to shop for Gamecubes
Jet Alert
> >
>
> Xbox should step down because the market only has room for 2 consoles, and
> those should be Sega and Nintendo.
I agree. Any company with a brain would have but their bottomless pit of
money is keeping them around.
AaronB
> The Gamecube is just as powerful as the X-Box, does better graphics...
That's about where I stopped taking this post seriously. If you're
going to be a troll, at least make an attempt to be a convincing one.
Simon Keane
Bollocks
One statement 'Lack on Online Games'
Leon Dexter
Oh, God, I come from the Gamecube group filled with "GC sales still suck"
posts to here, and have to see this? Dude, I love my Gamecube. It's my
favorite system. But your stupid post makes me want to break my beloved
Cube over your fucking head. Get a life.
Jason
That really makes no sense. To a degree I can see Bill Gates investing a lot
of money to make the X-Box succeed. However, if the thing is such a disaster,
then Microsoft is only going to put so much money into the thing. Bill Gates
didn't make all the money he has now by throwing money away on bad projects and
I doubt he'll start just throwing it away on one now.
Jason
Hnak the Rapper
"Bass Guitar God" wrote
> The Gamecube is just as powerful as the X-Box, does better graphics
and is now
> affordable enough for most people to have.
>
> The X-box will survive, but will be relegated to a "distant 3rd"
specialty
> system like the Panasonic 3D0 or Phillips CD-I was.
>
> It has more and better games than X-box, and with the GBA player, it
is now,
> aside from all that, also the #1 source for a whole new crop of 2-D
classics,
> Super-NES style!! You get the best of both worlds.
To play devil's advocate. Nintendo always had the cheapest console all
along. Why did it take a price drop to $99 to finally make it sell? I
mean all the Gamecube and PS2 fanboys like to bring up it took the Xbox
with a two game package and price cut, to finally make it sell in decent
number.
VŠ..
the GC ever has or ever will have. Seriously I hav egone into every game
store around where I live and the GC always has a little corner with half a
shelf (if that) of games while the X-Box has like two whole shelves of
different games and then another shelf of accessories.
Please tell me that this is because GC is more popular.
The GC also looks like a plastic toy. It may have a great heart but make
the thing look decent and I will get one. I am to afraid I will break the
GC at the way it looks now.
Don't laugh about looks as looks are very important when deciding what
people buy. Most people don't know jack about the insides of a console game
system and go by gut instinct and the ability to use it in the store. The
X-Box simply looks better than the GC. Hence people who are after the
hottest console will usually go for the better looking one.
X-Box also has Microsoft behind it and as much as people knock MS people
still buy MS products over competitors products.
Not to mention MS will not let their product die any time soon.
Just a few thoughts
"Bass Guitar God" <drsmi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Skye
Xbox's superior audio and video, controller, and choice of games, a 99
dollar gamecube doesn't mean shit. Well, it might mean more people will buy
one to hollow out and put their lunch in.
Skye
"Bass Guitar God" <drsmi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Phil
> >I have news for you, you're wrong. Where's GTA on GC, where's Halo and Halo
> >2? Where's Half-Life 2? Where's Area-51? Where's Fable and KOTOR? It's
> >the games that make the system...
>
> Where's Mario Sunshine on Xbox? Where's F Zero GX? Where's IKARUGA? Zelda?
> You're right, it's the games that make the system. And with the advent of the
> GBA PLAYER, the gamecube can play THOUSANDS MORE games... Game Boy, Game Boy
> Color, and Game Boy Advance... all on the big screen.
>
LOL counting all the PS1 games that can be played on the PS2 is a
stretch, but this is just ridiculous.
Jordan Lund
> The Gamecube is just as powerful as the X-Box, does better graphics and is now
> affordable enough for most people to have.
It didn't happen when Mario came out. It didn't happen when Metroid
came out. It didn't happen when Zelda came out. It's not going to
happen now.
- Jordan
Phil
> "Bass Guitar God" <drsmi...@aol.com> wrote
>
> > It has more and better games than X-box, and with the GBA player, it is
> now,
> > aside from all that, also the #1 source for a whole new crop of 2-D
> classics,
> > Super-NES style!! You get the best of both worlds.
>
> Of course, once you add a GB Player (it's not called a "GBA player", BTW)
> it's also not $99.99 USD anymore. And don't forget to purchase a memory
> card or two.
>
> I picked up a Gamecube after the price drop, but the only game I've
> picked up so far is the emulated version of the 1982 Star Wars arcade game.
> I might pick up Pikmin or Eternal Darkness pre-owned, but compared to the
> 30+ Xbox games I have the pickings seem slip on the GCN to me. I was lucky
> in that I had a standing offer to be gifted a memory card by a friend if I
> ever bought a GCN because he had a spare 16x card. I doubt I would have
> picked up the system if I'd had to accessorise it right off the bat, I'm too
> spoiled on having everything I need for the basics of gaming (like, oh, I
> don't know, being able to save my games) right out of the box on the Xbox.
A very lame and dated argument if you can afford to gameyou can swing
damn memory cards. The HD is a nice feasture don't get me wrong but
keep it in perspective.
> It's a nice little system, but it feels like a real step down with no
> hard drive, no online play, etc. I bought it because it was inexpensive
> (and I got a preowned one at that) so it wasn't much to risk but it doesn't
> look like Nintendo will be getting a very good attach rate out of me. It's
> a good move for Nintendo to boost unit sales but the real trick will be
> whether it boosts software sales or not. Without putting too fine a point
> on it, people like me buying it as an inexpensive curiosity to add to their
> collection or people buying it because they can't/won't afford an Xbox or
> PS2 are unlikely to be buying a large number of games. Nintendo may pull
> ahead of the Xbox in unit sales yet stay behind them in game sales (they've
> been behind the Xbox in game sales for a while now, from all the numbers
> I've seen, and fairly decisively so in some markets). As for multiplatform
> people like me, most of us will probably continue to favour Xbox versions
> because of the convenience of the hard drive and because multiplatform games
> tend to be best on the Xbox even if only by a smidgeon sometimes. It might
> hurt the PS2 some if PS2 owners (who don't own Xboxes) pick up GCNs because
> they're cheap and then favour GCN versions over PS2 versions, but those
> people are probably likely to have picked up an Xbox by now too. The
> hardware's not the most expensive part of gaming anyway.
Exactly the games are.
Phil
> >What part of closeout you dont under stand. Nintendo stopped producing
> >Game Cubes in order to sell off current over produced stock.
>
> Maybe we'll see "Jerry" from the Big Lots! commercials showing closeout
> shoppers how to shop for Gamecubes
>
Only games I ever saw at Odd Lots were 2600 ones. If you are gonna
troll put some effort into it atleast.
Jordan Lund
> I got a mega memory card with OVER 1,000 blocks, which is just as good in my
> book. Also, DON'T FORGET Gamecube, like it's predicessor, supports 4 players
> right out of the box.
Don't trust 3rd party memory cards. You're better off springing for a
couple of the black gamecube cards than using 3rd party memory.
p.s. So what if it supports 4 players out of the box... Every machine
worth owning this generation did that. ;^)
- Jordan
Jordan Lund
> >I have news for you, you're wrong. Where's GTA on GC, where's Halo and Halo
> >2? Where's Half-Life 2? Where's Area-51? Where's Fable and KOTOR? It's
> >the games that make the system...
>
> Where's Mario Sunshine on Xbox?
Not needed.
> Where's F Zero GX?
Not needed.
> Where's IKARUGA?
On the Dreamcast, actually...
> Zelda?
I own Zelda, I got bored after about the 3rd or 4th island and haven't
felt the need to go back to it. Maybe some day.
> You're right, it's the games that make the system. And with the advent of the
> GBA PLAYER, the gamecube can play THOUSANDS MORE games... Game Boy, Game Boy
> Color, and Game Boy Advance... all on the big screen.
Which look distorted blown up that large... But even distorted it is
better than playing them on the dark GBA screen.
- Jordan
Mike
adapt to what the new crop of gamers are looking for. To play GBA games on
GC is cool, but apparently 3 million GBAs have sold and only 80,000 GC's...
so not TOO many people are experiencing this luxury (then again, it's not
really a luxury to have a fairly distorted screen). Bottom line dude,
you're on an XBox group- we will defend our beloved console at any cost =)news:20031003014425...@mb-m29.aol.com...
Mike
$40,000,000,000 net worth... trust me, he knows what he's doing. Any
investment he makes is one where he knows in some way, it will EVENTUALLY
make a return. Bigger companies with Bigger cash flows tend to take Bigger
risks.
"Jason" <theusp...@aol.com> wrote in message
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man...@nospam.com
wrote:
>>and i suppose if you wanna fork out for an adapter, you can play gba
>>games..
>
>That's what I'm talking about. That's why I said "with the GBA Player".
well, you said it after your statment about gbc has more games.. and
gba games are not gbc games
>>but then what is the point of having a gba?
>
>To play the games when you're on the go, obviously, and the games are so good,
>they can be played at home on the BIG SCREEN, and you forget it's for a
>handheld game :)
yea, long car trips and camping is when i use mine.. i have no desire
to complete the games at home, not leaving me anything to do on
trips.. besides, already don't have enought time as there are simply
too many good games for my consoles.
sad that castlevania is one of the best titles on gba, however for
console only ps2 is getting loi.. for that reason (and a couple other
games i've held off on) i finally see a reason to pick up a ps2 once
again..
>>or a supernes? i
>>still have one btw, as do many folks in these ngs.
>I assume you're talking about the "Super Game Boy" for the SNES. You couldn't
>play the games "Full Screen" on it. You can on the GBA player..
nope, my point was lotsa ppl have snes if they wanna play a good 2d
game; for that matter many still have genesis as well. i don't need to
play gba games on my gbc, nor do i really desire to (not that the
adapter wasn't a good idea).
>"My life is as good as an ABBA song" - line from "Muriel's Wedding"
>
the point is that i can find good reasons for all 3 consoles, and
slamming one just cause you can't afford one or because you need to
stroke your ego regarding which one you own and why is simply assinie.
it's great you are in love with you gbc, i like mine as well, however
it is not the end-all be-all, and hardly the only thing worth owning
if you like games.
man...@nospam.com
tedious at times), or panzer dragoon orta.. or.. ( i could go on)
or how about final fantasy x? castlevania:loi? ratchet and clank? ( i
could go on)
and counting gba games is even more desperate than ps2 fanboys
counting ps1 games; it irrelevant. they're not gbc games, their gba
games.
On 03 Oct 2003 05:44:25 GMT, drsmi...@aol.com (Bass Guitar God)
wrote:
>>I have news for you, you're wrong. Where's GTA on GC, where's Halo and Halo
man...@nospam.com
intelligence as the troll who started this thread, and giving us xbox
folks a bad name..
man...@nospam.com
can pick that bundle up for $99 @ walmart, effectively making it $49.
better luck next time.
On 03 Oct 2003 07:24:50 GMT, drsmi...@aol.com (Bass Guitar God)
wrote:
>> Of course, once you add a GB Player (it's not called a "GBA player", BTW)
man...@nospam.com
like ms bob? lol...
but no, xbox is successful in ways, and it's not going anywhere..
Jason
>
>but no, xbox is successful in ways, and it's not going anywhere..
>
Not saying that any venture Bill Gates goes after will be successful, but the
guy certainly didn't get as rich as he did throwing his money into a
nonprofitable sinkhole. If the X-Box was such a failure, I'm sure before too
long he'd cut the thing loose.
Jason
Bass Guitar God
If your gonna camp, CAMP! If you're gonna fish, FISH! Leave your damn GBA at
home. Lay off the internet for a while, while you're at it, and LIVE!
Covak
sink to their level.
I'm a big Nintendo fanboy, but damn, I know that the GC doesn't do better
graphics than the Xbox.
"Bass Guitar God" <drsmi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> The Gamecube is just as powerful as the X-Box, does better graphics and is
now
> affordable enough for most people to have.
>
> The X-box will survive, but will be relegated to a "distant 3rd" specialty
> system like the Panasonic 3D0 or Phillips CD-I was.
>
> It has more and better games than X-box, and with the GBA player, it is
now,
> aside from all that, also the #1 source for a whole new crop of 2-D
classics,
> Super-NES style!! You get the best of both worlds.
>
Covak
the Xbox to me and everyone else I know?
"V©.." <naaa@hyper@hyperoz.com.au> wrote in message
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MS#1Fanboy-JoJo
says...
>
>The Gamecube is just as powerful as the X-Box, does better graphics and is
now
>affordable enough for most people to have.
>
>The X-box will survive, but will be relegated to a "distant 3rd" specialty
>system like the Panasonic 3D0 or Phillips CD-I was.
>
>It has more and better games than X-box, and with the GBA player, it is now,
>aside from all that, also the #1 source for a whole new crop of 2-D classics,
>Super-NES style!! You get the best of both worlds.
>
>"My life is as good as an ABBA song" - line from "Muriel's Wedding"
>
>
Covak
Wind Waker, then it's superior hardware might actually mater.
Maybe when Halo 2 comes out you can start blabbing about it's superior
hardware making a difference, but not yet.
"Skye" <carolina...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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man...@nospam.com
wrote:
>>yea, long car trips and camping is when i use mine..
heh.. you can do both, you know ;p
man...@nospam.com
frankly your'e the first person i've heard of that thinks the cube is
the best looking, but hey, your opinion is your opinion. after all,
beauty is in the eyes....
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 21:03:32 GMT, "Covak" <co...@rogers.no.spam.com>
wrote:
>If the Xbox looks better than the GC, then why does the GC look better than
>the Xbox to me and everyone else I know?
>
>
>"VŠ.." <naaa@hyper@hyperoz.com.au> wrote in message
Covak
like me: they see an Xbox and wonder why it's so freakin huge, while the
Cube is so small and cute :)
<man...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> you don't know anyone?
>
> frankly your'e the first person i've heard of that thinks the cube is
> the best looking, but hey, your opinion is your opinion. after all,
> beauty is in the eyes....
>
> On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 21:03:32 GMT, "Covak" <co...@rogers.no.spam.com>
> wrote:
>
> >If the Xbox looks better than the GC, then why does the GC look better
than
> >the Xbox to me and everyone else I know?
> >
> >
> >"V©.." <naaa@hyper@hyperoz.com.au> wrote in message
Skye
for a few levels and then snoooooze. Obviously Nintendo needs more than
those titles or else they wouldn't be in the predicament they're currently
in (first time in a long time they've lost money instead of making it).
Skye
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Bass Guitar God
>One statement 'Lack on Online Games'
>
Online games are a fad, let's move on.
Bass Guitar God
>along. Why did it take a price drop to $99 to finally make it sell?
I'LL ANSWER THAT: because it cannot play DVD's, that's why. When those systems
(PS2 and XBOX) came out, DVD's were reletavely new, and A ****LOT**** OF PEOPLE
didn't have a player yet. Buying a Playstation 2 or an Xbox was a damn good
excuse to justify buying a game system for the deul purpose of playing DVD's.
It's as simple as that.
I will take this one step further AND GUARAN-FUCKING-TEE you that a shitload of
people purchased a PS2 over an Xbox because the PS2 could play DVD's RIGHT OUT
OF THE BOX while the XBOX #1) Had to have a stupid "DVD Remote" unit to play,
and #2: These units were not readily available for a long time after the
launch.
I would have purchased an Xbox instead of a PS2 had it been able to play DVD's
right out of the box.
"My life is as good as an ABBA song" - line from "Muriel's Wedding"
Bass Guitar God
>the thing look decent and I will get one. I am to afraid I will break the
>GC at the way it looks now.
>
It was made that way to interact functionally and aesthetically with the GBA.
>Don't laugh about looks as looks are very important when deciding what
>people buy.
Yeah I agree there.
Bass Guitar God
>can pick that bundle up for $99 @ walmart, effectively making it $49.
>
>better luck next time.
>
This can't be right.
Steven Hurdle
> A very lame and dated argument if you can afford to gameyou can swing
> damn memory cards. The HD is a nice feasture don't get me wrong but
> keep it in perspective.
Ummm... the hard drive enables things for gameplay that aren't possible
otherwise, such as custom soundtracks, very large downloadable content (the
three Splinter Cell levels for example), and other things besides. The fact
that you call an argument "lame" without giving a reason why, and the fact
that your email address is ps2isnumber1, says pretty much all that needs to
be said about your bias though. ;)
As for your insistence that online gaming is a fad, Xbox Live has in
excess of a half-million paying customers. I don't think so. Even if it
does end up only being a fad, unlikely as that seems, I'm going to enjoy it
while I can as it adds a lot to the experience for me, especially what with
the voice chat.
> > The hardware's not the most expensive part of gaming anyway.
> Exactly the games are.
And that's exactly why I avoided the GCN until now, and even now only
game for it I've picked up for it so far is an emulated 1982 vector-based
arcade game. :P I could afford to buy every system, but there's little
point because I can't even afford all the Xbox and GBA games I want, and the
occasional old DC game to boot (and on the rarest of rare occasions a PC
title), let alone adding more systems to the mix. If not for the GB Player
(which I don't have but am considering) and the 1982 Star Wars arcade game,
I wouldn't have bought the GCN. I'm sure I'll pick up Pikmin one of these
years and maybe the odd things here and there, but I'll wager anything that
they'll all be preowned and/or on clearance and/or on budget re-release (if
Nintendo ever smartens up in that department). :)
man...@nospam.com
i don't post bs (not a fanboy, nothing to prove so don't need to lie):
but looks like they sold out :(
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and Game Boy Player. With the new Game Boy Player, you can play games
designed for the Game Boy, Game Boy Color and Game Boy Advance through
your GameCube console!
On 04 Oct 2003 04:47:34 GMT, drsmi...@aol.com (Bass Guitar God)
wrote:
>>well, if it that's imprortant to you, then you will really cry as you
man...@nospam.com
<ya...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote:
steven is that sw game avail anywhere w/o a preoder? i would love to
get it somehow.
man...@nospam.com
as it had zelda, and the best party games i could play w/ my wife and
kids.
aesthetics may even have something to with lagging sales ;p
but hey, like i said earlier, tho each his own ;p
On 04 Oct 2003 04:39:09 GMT, drsmi...@aol.com (Bass Guitar God)
wrote:
>>The GC also looks like a plastic toy. It may have a great heart but make
Steven Hurdle
> steven is that sw game avail anywhere w/o a preoder? i would love to
> get it somehow.
You can buy it privately off someone or you can preorder it and just
never pick up the game, never redeem your deposit, and you effectively just
purchased the demo disc for the amount of the deposit. :) That's where I'm
at now, wondering whether to redeem my deposit or not when the game comes
out. I have to turn in the demo disc if I try to cancel or transfer the
preorder deposit to another game, of course, not that I'm too concerned for
$5 CAD. :)
Unfortunately, I'm not too happy with the Star Wars arcade emulation.
The analogue control is so sensitive that it's almost unplayable. It's
nowhere near as good as the arcade experience, therefore, sadly. It's still
worth a few play throughs though, just for the novelty.
man...@nospam.com
<ya...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote:
> Unfortunately, I'm not too happy with the Star Wars arcade emulation.
>The analogue control is so sensitive that it's almost unplayable. It's
>nowhere near as good as the arcade experience, therefore, sadly. It's still
>worth a few play throughs though, just for the novelty.
>
bummer that's sad to hear :(
Hnak the Rapper
Maybe.
What I find interesting is you keep coming out here trolling. Are you
to become another version of Todd? A kid so stupid he is unaware that
whenever he makes fun of trolls he is making fun of himself. I remember
when Nintendo fans were to be above trolling because they were mature
and didn't let what other people said about their system of choice
bother them.
Phil
> "Phil" <ps2isn...@netscape.net> wrote
>
> > A very lame and dated argument if you can afford to gameyou can swing
> > damn memory cards. The HD is a nice feasture don't get me wrong but
> > keep it in perspective.
>
> Ummm... the hard drive enables things for gameplay that aren't possible
> otherwise, such as custom soundtracks, very large downloadable content (the
> three Splinter Cell levels for example), and other things besides. The fact
> that you call an argument "lame" without giving a reason why, and the fact
> that your email address is ps2isnumber1, says pretty much all that needs to
> be said about your bias though. ;)
>
Your ingnorant assumptions about me aside. I stand by what I said. By
the way I own an Xbox and a GC for that matter, take that forwhat you
will.
Steven Hurdle
> > Unfortunately, I'm not too happy with the Star Wars arcade emulation.
> >The analogue control is so sensitive that it's almost unplayable. It's
> >nowhere near as good as the arcade experience, therefore, sadly. It's
still
> >worth a few play throughs though, just for the novelty.
> bummer that's sad to hear :(
...but you might like it! ;)
If only it supported adjusting the analogue sensitivity, it could've been
the cat's ass.
Steven Hurdle
> > Ummm... the hard drive enables things for gameplay that aren't
possible
> > otherwise, such as custom soundtracks, very large downloadable content
(the
> > three Splinter Cell levels for example), and other things besides. The
fact
> > that you call an argument "lame" without giving a reason why, and the
fact
> > that your email address is ps2isnumber1, says pretty much all that needs
to
> > be said about your bias though. ;)
> Your ingnorant assumptions about me aside.
It's ignorant to suggest that your email address being
ps2isn...@netscape.net suggests you have a bias? Uh huh. And I'm making
no assumptions by responding to your usage of "lame" without any supporting
argument, I'm just sharing my earnest and unfettered reaction.
> I stand by what I said.
You stand by your unsupported and unsubstantiated assertions? OK, if you
insist.
If you deny that the hard drive has the ability to enhance gameplay (I
again draw your attention to custom soundtracks, downloadable content, and
to that I'll add the possibilities inherent in cashing data for later recall
such as for presentation in sports games) then we'll simply have to agree to
disagree.
> By the way I own an Xbox and a GC for that matter, take that forwhat you
> will.
I own both an Xbox and a GCN, which means absolutely nothing and neither
does it mean anything that you profess to own each as well.
Turd Ferguson
> The Gamecube is just as powerful as the X-Box, does better graphics and is
now
> affordable enough for most people to have.
>
> The X-box will survive, but will be relegated to a "distant 3rd" specialty
> system like the Panasonic 3D0 or Phillips CD-I was.
>
> It has more and better games than X-box, and with the GBA player, it is
now,
> aside from all that, also the #1 source for a whole new crop of 2-D
classics,
> Super-NES style!! You get the best of both worlds.
>
I refuse to listen to any asswipe that quotes Muriel's Wedding as a sig.
PS: ABBA is for girls and wusses.
Union Kane
same price as a GBA SP. Should your main console be the same price as your
handheld. Sounds bad to me.
Union Kane
"Bass Guitar God" <drsmi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >I have news for you, you're wrong. Where's GTA on GC, where's Halo and
Halo
> >2? Where's Half-Life 2? Where's Area-51? Where's Fable and KOTOR?
It's
> >the games that make the system...
>
> Where's Mario Sunshine on Xbox? Where's F Zero GX? Where's IKARUGA? Zelda?
> You're right, it's the games that make the system. And with the advent of
the
> GBA PLAYER, the gamecube can play THOUSANDS MORE games... Game Boy, Game
Boy
> Color, and Game Boy Advance... all on the big screen.
>
> I'll admit thought that I always though "Blood wake" looks very cool, but
> that's about it.
Bass Guitar God
>
>
>
Abba is the greatest pop group ever.
Chad Sexington
> Abba is the greatest pop group ever.
Duran Duran is.
Mattinglyfan
"Chad Sexington" <06...@0.02.9> wrote in message
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> Bass Guitar God wrote:
>
> > Abba is the greatest pop group ever.
>
> Duran Duran is.
Depeche Mode!
JK. You guys sound ridiculous.
Union Kane
statement for Nintendo, they still have 4.5 billion US$ in liquid cash
reserves. No where near as much as Microsoft or Sony, but still plenty to
make an honest effort of it in the next round of consoles, I think.
"Jet Alert" <ha...@lol.com> wrote in message
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> Im not sure GC is going to seal their fate because xbox would have died
out
> all ready if not for their money being pumped into it. The system hasn't
> done well enough to survive nor has the GC. Im not sure why companies like
> losing money just because their pride gets in the way. Both GC and Xbox
> should have folded.
>
>
Robert P Holley
So it was more important for you to have 'out-of-the-box' DVD capability
than 'out-if-the-box' game saving capability?
Union Kane
year after PS2 and has lost this round of consoles in sales, no doubt.
That's what happens. The reverse goes for Xbox Live. It launched first
and blowing away Sony's online strategy. I'm not saying Xbox2 will beat PS3
in sales, but the potential for that is much greater should they be released
close together.
"Jason" <theusp...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >e ms bob? lol...
> >
> >but no, xbox is successful in ways, and it's not going anywhere..
> >
>
> Not saying that any venture Bill Gates goes after will be successful, but
the
> guy certainly didn't get as rich as he did throwing his money into a
> nonprofitable sinkhole. If the X-Box was such a failure, I'm sure before
too
> long he'd cut the thing loose.
> Jason
Union Kane
a year for Xbox. Nowadays depending on the store, you can usually get the
DVD play back kit in a bundle. Even though those with a PS2 could play
their DVD's out of the box, most them still bought the DVD remote. Does
that make them stupid? No, it's easier and more comfortable to use the
remote. It's not plugged in and you use outside of the 6 feet of the
controller cord.
"Bass Guitar God" <drsmi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Union Kane
:)
"Robert P Holley" <holl...@delanet.com> wrote in message
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Union Kane
When Microsoft said they were putting 2 billion over five years into Xbox
Live, that told me they weren't going anywhere. That's almost have the
money Nintendo has for anything.
"VŠ.." <naaa@hyper@hyperoz.com.au> wrote in message
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> Not to mention the X-Box simply looks better and has heaps more games than
> the GC ever has or ever will have. Seriously I hav egone into every game
> store around where I live and the GC always has a little corner with half
a
> shelf (if that) of games while the X-Box has like two whole shelves of
> different games and then another shelf of accessories.
>
> Please tell me that this is because GC is more popular.
>
> The GC also looks like a plastic toy. It may have a great heart but make
> the thing look decent and I will get one. I am to afraid I will break the
> GC at the way it looks now.
>
> Don't laugh about looks as looks are very important when deciding what
> people buy. Most people don't know jack about the insides of a console
game
> system and go by gut instinct and the ability to use it in the store. The
> X-Box simply looks better than the GC. Hence people who are after the
> hottest console will usually go for the better looking one.
>
> X-Box also has Microsoft behind it and as much as people knock MS people
> still buy MS products over competitors products.
>
> Not to mention MS will not let their product die any time soon.
>
> Just a few thoughts
> "Bass Guitar God" <drsmi...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031002224534...@mb-m04.aol.com...
> > The Gamecube is just as powerful as the X-Box, does better graphics and
is
> now
> > affordable enough for most people to have.
> >
> > The X-box will survive, but will be relegated to a "distant 3rd"
specialty
> > system like the Panasonic 3D0 or Phillips CD-I was.
> >
> > It has more and better games than X-box, and with the GBA player, it is
> now,
> > aside from all that, also the #1 source for a whole new crop of 2-D
> classics,
> > Super-NES style!! You get the best of both worlds.
> >
Union Kane
see if your mom left you a surprise inside, like breakfast or a brain.
"Covak" <co...@rogers.no.spam.com> wrote in message
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> If the Xbox looks better than the GC, then why does the GC look better
than
> the Xbox to me and everyone else I know?
Union Kane
proposed new slim designs for the Xbox. My Xbox fits nicely with my VCR,
A/V Tuner etc. It slides into stereo stands nicely. You must keep your
purple box on the carpet where it belongs with the other toys.
"Covak" <co...@rogers.no.spam.com> wrote in message
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> Hehe, I do know people, believe it or not :) And I guess most of them are
> like me: they see an Xbox and wonder why it's so freakin huge, while the
> Cube is so small and cute :)
>
>
> <man...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:m7rrnvseufvr16cvk...@4ax.com...
> > you don't know anyone?
> >
> > frankly your'e the first person i've heard of that thinks the cube is
> > the best looking, but hey, your opinion is your opinion. after all,
> > beauty is in the eyes....
Chad Sexington
>>> Abba is the greatest pop group ever.
>> Duran Duran is.
> Depeche Mode!
Good choice.
> You guys sound ridiculous.
Hey, Coach...go back to loitering in the boys' showers, all right? I'm
sure one of 'em doesn't mind being muscled into a rubdown with a jug
of Biotone.
AINJK.
Mattinglyfan
"Robert P Holley" <holl...@delanet.com> wrote in message
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Back before DVD players were as cheap as there are now, you are darn skippy.
Bass Guitar God
>than 'out-if-the-box' game saving capability?
>
This is correct, yes I guess so. If they would have offered a special where you
got the DVD remote for free I would have bought it. But instead I bought a PS2,
and can't really say I have any regrets about it at all.
Bass Guitar God
>a year for Xbox.
Wrong, that's not what I'm talking about AT ALL. I'm talking about the people
who waited until all consoles were out before they made thier choice.
> Nowadays depending on the store, you can usually get the
>DVD play back kit in a bundle. Even though those with a PS2 could play
>their DVD's out of the box, most them still bought the DVD remote.
Where are you getting your information??? I hightly doubt this. I use my
controller, it works fine and I'm comfortable with it. Also, all of the "DVD
games" there are out there that you play with your remote (Dragons lair, Mad
Dog Mcree, Space Ace, Time traveller, etc.) are all formatted PERFECTLY to use
the playstation controller. Coincidence?
>No, it's easier and more comfortable to use the
>remote.
I disagree with this. I have absolutely no desire for another freakin' remote
laying around my house!!!!
Bass Guitar God
>year after PS2 and has lost this round of consoles in sales, no doubt.
>That's what happens.
Xbox would have done better had it been able to play DVD's out of the box.
Robert P Holley
> >So it was more important for you to have 'out-of-the-box' DVD capability
> >than 'out-if-the-box' game saving capability?
> >
>
> This is correct, yes I guess so. If they would have offered a special
where you
> got the DVD remote for free I would have bought it. But instead I bought a
PS2,
> and can't really say I have any regrets about it at all.
So after you bought your PS2, when exactly did you pick up a memory card?
Three months later? Six months? A year later?
Union Kane
for DVD's.
"Bass Guitar God" <drsmi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Union Kane
Most people who bought the Xbox, saw the potential of what was coming
(future game titles, Xbox Live), and liked the idea. A lot of people didn't
wait for all the consoles to be out and still bought both. I bought my
Xbox, based on the games coming out for it. Based on power of the machine,
and the fact that it could play DVD's. I knew I was going to use it as my
main (and only) DVD player so I bought the kit. A lot of people who bought
the Xbox had a DVD player already either separate or in their PS2's. Don't
mislead yourself to think that a remote control has such a huge role in Xbox
sales. With my Xbox I wasn't forced to buy a DVD kit, I chose to. Unlike
the PS2 forcing people to buy memory card, unless you go through all your
games start to finish without saving. In regards to my information about
Sony's DVD remotes, well they still sell them right. I think a lot of
people who integrated the DVD feature of the PS2 into their home theatres
would find the DVD remote useful. Allow me to make as many assumptions in my
post as you do in yours.
Future Shop a subsidiary of Best Buy, along with other retailers here in
Canada have at some point bundled the DVD remote with a new system purchase.
It's a sale that comes and goes. It's not a Microsoft promotion.
"Bass Guitar God" <drsmi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Bass Guitar God
>Sony would have sold more DVD remotes, if you couldn't use the controller
>for DVD's.
that's just stupid
Bass Guitar God
>(future game titles, Xbox Live), and liked the idea. A lot of people didn't
>wait for all the consoles to be out and still bought both. I bought my
>Xbox, based on the games coming out for it.
Games you hadn't even played boy are you a sheep.
>Don't
>mislead yourself to think that a remote control has such a huge role in Xbox
>sales.
It was. And it was bad, too for the people who bought the Xbox and had to wait
for MONTHS to play DVD's on thier system due to lack of remotes.
Bass Guitar God
>Three months later? Six months? A year later?
I would say around 3-6 months later. I played the games for a long time without
saving them as I'm old school coleco-intellivision back in the day when games
were more like the arcade and you can't save in the arcade.
Robert P Holley
> >So after you bought your PS2, when exactly did you pick up a memory card?
> >Three months later? Six months? A year later?
>
> I would say around 3-6 months later. I played the games for a long time
without
> saving them as I'm old school coleco-intellivision back in the day when
games
> were more like the arcade and you can't save in the arcade.
Yeah sure you did. And what games did you play for six months without
saving?
Bass Guitar God
>saving?
>
UMMMMM.... Let's see.. The first 3 games I bought were Ridge Racer V, Tekken
Tag Tournament, and Onimusha Warlords... yeah they were OLD games by the time I
got my Playstation in early 2002, but they were the games that I always had my
eye on when the PS2 first came out, and I wanted to start from the top. I also
got "Twisted Metal Black" which I would play in the "GOD MODE" and just play
all the way through. I also got "State of Emergency" and Gradius III & IV.
The first memory card I got was a 3rd party of some type which was YELLOW, and
I think I got that to save the unlocks on Namco Museum. I later got a 2-pack
when the price dropped.
Steven Hurdle
> While we're on the subject, how @!$#*(@ much does a used GC go for
> nowadays? Last time I was at a store (not too long after this price drop)
> used XBOX were listed at $99 and I was thinking "what idiot decided that
> pricing?" And oddly the gamestore sites (ebworld and gamestop) don't show
> used Gamecubes on them.
In Canada, EB sells used GameCube's for $10 CAD less than new ones, a
smaller proportionate spread than the other systems which are sold at a $20
CAD discount over new (which is enough of a savings to pick up an extended
warranty on it, making it potentially valuable depending on your
priorities).
Steven Hurdle
> I don't know about the states, but in Canada the Game Cube sells for the
> same price as a GBA SP. Should your main console be the same price as
your
> handheld. Sounds bad to me.
And that's only because they dropped the price of the GBA SP by $10 when
the dropped the price of the GCN. :) The GameCube would have been cheaper
otherwise.
Steven Hurdle
> Let's all keep one thing in perspective. After looking at last years
annual
> statement for Nintendo, they still have 4.5 billion US$ in liquid cash
> reserves. No where near as much as Microsoft or Sony, but still plenty to
> make an honest effort of it in the next round of consoles, I think.
Actually, I think Nintendo's cash reserves are infinitely better than
Sony's. Certainly Nintendo's cash to debt ratio is better.
However, Nintendo has been reluctant to open up the bank to pour big
dollars into promoting the GameCube, which I find curious since they're well
capitalised.