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stinky

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Feb 2, 2002, 10:11:50 AM2/2/02
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Hmmm. The GayCubies said Microsoft would be out of business by now.
What happened? 10 to 1 odds they'll throw in the "yeah, but Nintendo
is selling more worldwide" excuse. No defense for what happened to
Nintendo in North America, however.

A console that is $100 cheaper, had twice as many consoles available at
launch, has the Nintendo pedigree that parents all know........what the
fuck happened?


BLazer

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Feb 2, 2002, 10:38:55 AM2/2/02
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the system looks queer as hell. I wouldnt want that thing in my house.

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Ransack The Elder

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Feb 2, 2002, 11:16:34 AM2/2/02
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It's all about the games. Gamecube just does not have them.


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RnR Stone Cold

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Ransack The Elder <nom...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> It's all about the games. Gamecube just does not have them.

The only Gamecube game right now that doesnt get old in a couple of weeks is
Smash Brothers, and while I think its awesome, it isnt everyone's cup of
tea. There is nothing coming out until late spring at the earliest. It's
really amazing that Nintendo failed to have a killer mainstream app on
launch. They should have had either Mario, Zelda, or Metroid ready at
launch. Also, they will shoot themselves in the foot if they stick with the
stupid cel shaded look for Zelda. Supposedly Nintendo is reconsidering it.

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RnR Stone Cold
"It's True, It's True"- Kurt Angle


Ransack The Elder

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That's me..it's just not my cup of tea. Give me an Xbox with Halo, Blood
Wake, UFC Tapout, DOA, and a better version of NHL Hitz.


HA!

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Feb 2, 2002, 4:27:32 PM2/2/02
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> A console that is $100 cheaper, had twice as many consoles available at
> launch, has the Nintendo pedigree that parents all know........what the
> fuck happened?
>

I know I am waiting for the right game until I buy the system. All of my
machine purchases have been based on just the 1 to 2 games that I wanted to
play on it. I bought Xbox for Halo, PSX for Tekken 3, N64 for Goldeneye and
WCW Revenge, SNES for Zelda , Genesis for Streets of Rage and NHL.

I was thinking about getting GC for WrestlemaniaX8 but when I heard it was
being developed by Yukes instead of Aki, I changed my mind real quick.


YourBuddy

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Yup. The XBox has more titles I want now and in the near future. However, if
Sega decides to produce Skies of Arcadia 2 on GCN, I'll be there in a
heartbeat.


stinky

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Feb 2, 2002, 6:06:21 PM2/2/02
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YourBuddy wrote:

It's going to be on the PS2. Such a shame. They shouldn't have wasted that on
such an inferior console.

ANGRY

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Feb 2, 2002, 6:58:10 PM2/2/02
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I'll say this once more. Nintendo wasn't ready to release the "Dolphin
a.k.a. Gamecube", but with the pressures building from Sony's Ps2 and
Microsoft's Xbox system, they had no choice but to release the system. The
president of Nintendo has said this himself in interviews to the public and
in private conferences. Project Dolphin was simply too long in production;
the hardware would have been slightly above Sony's new machine and even out
done by Microsoft's. Nintendo had no choice but to bring the system out
even when it wasn't ready. This is why the president stated that they
really won't have a strong launch but will focus more on Christmas 2002 in
America. By then however it may be simply too late, especially when through
out the year the two competitors are releasing games even online plans.


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Joe Ottoson

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Feb 2, 2002, 7:03:22 PM2/2/02
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ANGRY wrote:

> I'll say this once more. Nintendo wasn't ready to release the "Dolphin
> a.k.a. Gamecube", but with the pressures building from Sony's Ps2 and
> Microsoft's Xbox system, they had no choice but to release the system. The
> president of Nintendo has said this himself in interviews to the public and
> in private conferences. Project Dolphin was simply too long in production;
> the hardware would have been slightly above Sony's new machine and even out
> done by Microsoft's. Nintendo had no choice but to bring the system out
> even when it wasn't ready. This is why the president stated that they
> really won't have a strong launch but will focus more on Christmas 2002 in
> America. By then however it may be simply too late, especially when through
> out the year the two competitors are releasing games even online plans.
>

Online gaming's not going to be any bigger now than it was when the DC
tried to use it as a selling point.

Dust Monkey³

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Feb 2, 2002, 7:09:49 PM2/2/02
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ANGRY wrote:
>
> I'll say this once more. Nintendo wasn't ready to release the "Dolphin
> a.k.a. Gamecube",

link?

> but with the pressures building from Sony's Ps2 and
> Microsoft's Xbox system, they had no choice but to release the system. The
> president of Nintendo has said this himself in interviews to the public and
> in private conferences.

Link?

> Project Dolphin was simply too long in production;
> the hardware would have been slightly above Sony's new machine and even out
> done by Microsoft's. Nintendo had no choice but to bring the system out
> even when it wasn't ready.

Link?


Danoot

Captain S

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Feb 2, 2002, 9:09:58 PM2/2/02
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I'm an Xbox owner, i baught it to play halo. I've beaten halo, got really
annoyed with "the flood" and have no desire to play it any more. there is
also no other game i'd be willing to spend $50 on. I might be willing to get
Transworld Skateboarding once it comes out... but we'll see when that
happens. I'm quite disappointed, but i'm playing my PS1 far far more than my
xbox these days. It's actually dusty.

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Captain S

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Feb 2, 2002, 9:10:49 PM2/2/02
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Cel shading looks AWESOME, Jet Grind Radio and JSRF are living examples.

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Bondo

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Feb 2, 2002, 7:50:06 PM2/2/02
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> I'll say this once more. Nintendo wasn't ready to release the "Dolphin
> a.k.a. Gamecube", but with the pressures building from Sony's Ps2 and
> Microsoft's Xbox system, they had no choice but to release the system. The
> president of Nintendo has said this himself in interviews to the public and
> in private conferences. Project Dolphin was simply too long in production;
> the hardware would have been slightly above Sony's new machine and even out
> done by Microsoft's. Nintendo had no choice but to bring the system out
> even when it wasn't ready. This is why the president stated that they
> really won't have a strong launch but will focus more on Christmas 2002 in
> America. By then however it may be simply too late, especially when through
> out the year the two competitors are releasing games even online plans.

Look how important online was to the Dreamcast. That is a moot point seeing
as Nintendo will also have online stuff next year. And about releasing
games, Nintendo seems to be releasing game throughout the year as well. Go
and spout your garbage elsewhere.

Bondo

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Feb 2, 2002, 7:50:36 PM2/2/02
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On 2/2/02 5:09 PM, in article 3C5C7FCD...@nospam.danoot.com, "Dust
Monkey³" <Jo...@nospam.danoot.com> wrote:

I agree with this psot.

Shadow

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Feb 2, 2002, 7:55:35 PM2/2/02
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"ANGRY" <AN...@ANGRYNET.NET> wrote in message
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> I'll say this once more. Nintendo wasn't ready to release the "Dolphin
> a.k.a. Gamecube", but with the pressures building from Sony's Ps2 and
> Microsoft's Xbox system, they had no choice but to release the system.
The
> president of Nintendo has said this himself in interviews to the public
and
> in private conferences. Project Dolphin was simply too long in
production;
> the hardware would have been slightly above Sony's new machine and even
out
> done by Microsoft's. Nintendo had no choice but to bring the system out
> even when it wasn't ready. This is why the president stated that they
> really won't have a strong launch but will focus more on Christmas 2002 in
> America. By then however it may be simply too late, especially when
through
> out the year the two competitors are releasing games even online plans.
>
>
Provide a link, or shut up. I don't remember reading anything about
Yama-whoever saying the GC wasn't ready.


Phil Da Lickł

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Feb 2, 2002, 8:07:50 PM2/2/02
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"ANGRY" <AN...@ANGRYNET.NET> wrote in message
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> I'll say this once more. Nintendo wasn't ready to release the "Dolphin
> a.k.a. Gamecube", but with the pressures building from Sony's Ps2 and
> Microsoft's Xbox system, they had no choice but to release the system.
The
> president of Nintendo has said this himself in interviews to the public
and
> in private conferences. Project Dolphin was simply too long in
production;
> the hardware would have been slightly above Sony's new machine and even
out
> done by Microsoft's. Nintendo had no choice but to bring the system out
> even when it wasn't ready. This is why the president stated that they
> really won't have a strong launch but will focus more on Christmas 2002 in
> America. By then however it may be simply too late, especially when
through
> out the year the two competitors are releasing games even online plans.

U just don't give up do you?

Spout your bullshit in the xbox newsgroup only please.

Otherwise, provide proof of your claims or get a life.

RnR Stone Cold

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Feb 1, 2002, 9:49:20 PM2/1/02
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Captain S <i...@dorm.org> wrote in message
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> Cel shading looks AWESOME, Jet Grind Radio and JSRF are living examples.


Cel shading goes with JSRF and I agree it looks awesome. But I dont like the
look of it in a Zelda game. I think Zelda should have the look of something
like Project Ego.

RnR Stone Cold

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Feb 1, 2002, 9:48:08 PM2/1/02
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I agree here. Really only the die-hards will take advantage of online play.
Most like me prefer to have 4 controllers and a group of friends over to
play on split screens.

Shadow

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Feb 2, 2002, 10:18:16 PM2/2/02
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"RnR Stone Cold" <rnrcartm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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MMORPGs aren't games that are meant to be played by four people in the same
room, though a game like Tony Hawk 3 should be played split-screen. The
online feature of the PS2 really doesn't seem like that much more of a
bonus. When it comes to landing combos, I'd much rather taunt my friends in
person than in chat.


HOE

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"Dust Monkeył" <Jo...@nospam.danoot.com> wrote in message
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> ANGRY wrote:
> >
> > I'll say this once more. Nintendo wasn't ready to release the "Dolphin
> > a.k.a. Gamecube",
>
> link?
Nintendo Fangirlł in denial

>
> > but with the pressures building from Sony's Ps2 and
> > Microsoft's Xbox system, they had no choice but to release the system.
The
> > president of Nintendo has said this himself in interviews to the public
and
> > in private conferences.
>
> Link?
Nintendo Fangirlł in denial

>
> > Project Dolphin was simply too long in production;
> > the hardware would have been slightly above Sony's new machine and even
out
> > done by Microsoft's. Nintendo had no choice but to bring the system out
> > even when it wasn't ready.
>
> Link?
Nintendo Fangirlł in denial
>
>
>
>
> Danoot
Nintendo Fangirlł in denial


HOE

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Feb 2, 2002, 11:13:42 PM2/2/02
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"Captain S" <i...@dorm.org> wrote in message
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> Cel shading looks AWESOME, Jet Grind Radio and JSRF are living examples.
of over-hyped underselling shitty games with Gayshading.

HOE

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"Captain S" <i...@dorm.org> wrote in message
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> I'm an Xbox owner, i baught it to play halo. I've beaten halo, got really
> annoyed with "the flood"

The flood actually ruined the game for me. Hated it.

Captain S

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Feb 3, 2002, 5:14:58 AM2/3/02
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Yeah, when i DO play, i find myself re-playing levels before the flood
actually happened, and then quitting. It just isn't fun... the entire second
half (or so) of the game is just running from thousands of little tiny
aliens that don't stop coming. and then bigger aliens that spawn more small
ones.
You know, there is deffinately the capability to release a mission pack for
Halo. It could work the same way a multi-disc game for PSX worked to ensure
that you had the orriginal game, or it could even install on the hard drive
or something. but i REALLY hope they release a mission pack, preferably one
that focuses more on stealth and sniping than running and shooting.
I had been waiting for halo since Macworld several years ago... i was pretty
damn let down that it wasn't all they said it was goign to be. Actually,
it's completely different.
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HOE

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Feb 3, 2002, 4:06:59 AM2/3/02
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Once again Captain I agree. I can honestly (and a little sheepishly ) admit
I never even finished Halo. Why? Quit after the flood. What is the freaking
point in the flood? All these little floaty thingys. The whole game
changed - for the worse - after the flood. I went from playing practically
nonstop and being blown away to being dumbfounded and putting it down.
Dumbfounded as to how the developers could so stupidly ruin a game like
that. Oh well.

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Ryan

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"ANGRY" <AN...@ANGRYNET.NET> wrote in message news:<a3huep$cs5$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>...
> I'll say this once more. Nintendo wasn't ready to release the "Dolphin
> a.k.a. Gamecube", but with the pressures building from Sony's Ps2 and
> Microsoft's Xbox system, they had no choice but to release the system. The
> president of Nintendo has said this himself in interviews to the public and
> in private conferences. Project Dolphin was simply too long in production;
> the hardware would have been slightly above Sony's new machine and even out
> done by Microsoft's. Nintendo had no choice but to bring the system out
> even when it wasn't ready. This is why the president stated that they
> really won't have a strong launch but will focus more on Christmas 2002 in
> America. By then however it may be simply too late, especially when through
> out the year the two competitors are releasing games even online plans.


What I find funny is that when I went into my local Target store they
still had four Xbox consoles sitting there just like they did two
weeks ago, but no sign of a Gamecube or Playstation 2.

And you know the president of Nintendo how? Go spread your lies
somewhere else, your the only person that believes them.

Captain S

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Feb 3, 2002, 3:44:27 PM2/3/02
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I played obsessively through the entire game, and pretty much stopped
playing it after i beat it

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Captain S

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I played obsessively through the entire game, and pretty much stopped
playing it after i beat it
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tedb512

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Joe Ottoson <jaot...@fortlewis.edu> wrote in message news:<3C5C7E4A...@fortlewis.edu>...
[snip]

> Online gaming's not going to be any bigger now than it was when the DC
> tried to use it as a selling point.

Maybe, but I'd use it if they had it. I wish they did.

Honestly, who cares what the market as a whole demands? Assuming the
GCN will do well enough to survive (and it will do that), I'm going to
want what I want!

tedb512

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"ANGRY" <AN...@ANGRYNET.NET> wrote in message news:<a3huep$cs5$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>...
[snip]

> This is why the president stated that they
> really won't have a strong launch but will focus more on Christmas 2002 in
> America.

Obviously most of this post was pure opinion and BS at that, but I
hope this part is true. Honestly, I'm not overwhelmed by the games out
for the Gamecube so far; I've yet to find a game that entertained me
as much as Mario 64 did for the N64, which in turn could carry the
weak launch. This launch had more games, but no killers, and I really
wish there was one. Monkey Ball is loads of fun, as is Smash Brothers,
and as are, to a lesser extent, others, but still, I'm left hoping
that Nintendo's focused on the near future and getting some great
games out SOON!

Ajscottjr

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"ANGRY" <AN...@ANGRYNET.NET> wrote in message
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> I'll say this once more. Nintendo wasn't ready to release the "Dolphin
> a.k.a. Gamecube", but with the pressures building from Sony's Ps2 and
> Microsoft's Xbox system, they had no choice but to release the system.
The
> president of Nintendo has said this himself in interviews to the public
and
> in private conferences. Project Dolphin was simply too long in
production;
> the hardware would have been slightly above Sony's new machine and even
out
> done by Microsoft's. Nintendo had no choice but to bring the system out
> even when it wasn't ready. This is why the president stated that they
> really won't have a strong launch but will focus more on Christmas 2002 in
> America. By then however it may be simply too late, especially when
through
> out the year the two competitors are releasing games even online plans.
>

First of all what you are talking about is pure bullshit. Second of all it
is not about who sales the most consoles, but about who sales enough
software to recuperate from each console sold. And since Nintendo doesn't
have too sale as much software to recuperate from the sales of the console,
they have a better chance of surviving the console war. This means that for
each console Nintendo sales they are pretty much breaking even. Can you say
that about the other two consoles makers?

And, before you go off tangent and say something stupid, like Sony and
Microsoft have a larger library of games. you have too ask yourself, how
many games does the average gamer buy or even rent in the life cycle of the
system? Meaning Nintendo has the least amount of pressure, as with Sony and
Microsoft.

--


Ajscottjr

HA!

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Did you guys play Legendary? Because I find that is when the flood come
non-stop, but in Heroic and lower they are easier to get past. I agree that
the flood are annoying. Although the flood were fun and different at first,
I quickly began to dread that foreshadowing sound of incoherent grunts and
scratching little legs.


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Keith K.

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Feb 3, 2002, 7:33:09 PM2/3/02
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> Hmmm. The GayCubies said Microsoft would be out of business by now.
> What happened? 10 to 1 odds they'll throw in the "yeah, but Nintendo
> is selling more worldwide" excuse. No defense for what happened to
> Nintendo in North America, however.
>
> A console that is $100 cheaper, had twice as many consoles available at
> launch, has the Nintendo pedigree that parents all know........what the
> fuck happened?

Because Nintendo has made very bad decisions lately. Crappy-Ass Nintento 64
left a bad taste in everyones mouth (not enough good games-especially
fighters). No backlit light for GBA. No panasonic "Q" option for DVD/GC
combo in the U.S. And lastly no Mario Game at launch. I don't know why the
fuck they have options of a bazillion different colors of GBA and GC but no
DVD option or backlight (gladly pay more for them).


DevilPaul

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Feb 3, 2002, 11:02:11 PM2/3/02
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Hey, excuse me, but you aren't giving the GameCube enough credit. It makes a
good-looking paper weight or even a door stop. It can also be used like a
purse to bash a would be attacker over the head. Think about that the next
time you want to bash that system here.

Paul

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The Mak

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"HOE" <Heh...@nowway.spamerino> wrote in
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Usually when you talk about private conversations of an executive you will
be asked for proof. It's only logical.

Dust Monkey³

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Feb 5, 2002, 5:52:22 AM2/5/02
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Well, shit. That's me put in my place.

Danoot

Jimmery

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Feb 5, 2002, 6:06:18 AM2/5/02
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i think he is trying to chat you up dood - watch out!!

Dust Monkey³

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Feb 5, 2002, 7:58:18 AM2/5/02
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I'm not being the bitch again!


Danoot

Jimmery

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Feb 5, 2002, 8:47:54 AM2/5/02
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> > > > Nintendo Fangirlł in denial
> > >
> > > Well, shit. That's me put in my place.
> > >
> >
> > i think he is trying to chat you up dood - watch out!!
>
> I'm not being the bitch again!
>


again?

Dust Monkey³

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Feb 5, 2002, 8:54:25 AM2/5/02
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Dust Monkey³

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Feb 5, 2002, 8:55:16 AM2/5/02
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Just realised what context the link I posted was in.

Oh god.

Erm..


Danoot

Jimmery

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Feb 5, 2002, 9:03:09 AM2/5/02
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LMFAO!!!!!

Jimmery

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LMFAO again!!!!

you've gone and put your foot in it...

bitch!!

Dust Monkey³

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Feb 5, 2002, 9:10:59 AM2/5/02
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You think it would fit?

> bitch!!

SLAG!


Danoot

Jimmery

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Feb 5, 2002, 9:11:24 AM2/5/02
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> > LMFAO again!!!!
> >
> > you've gone and put your foot in it...
>
> You think it would fit?
>

judgin by the picture, a bit of stretching and many feet would fit :)


> > bitch!!
>
> SLAG!
>

hehehe!!

Dust Monkey³

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Feb 5, 2002, 9:16:45 AM2/5/02
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Jimmery wrote:
>
> > > LMFAO again!!!!
> > >
> > > you've gone and put your foot in it...
> >
> > You think it would fit?
> >
>
> judgin by the picture, a bit of stretching and many feet would fit :)

goatse is the satan.

> > > bitch!!
> >
> > SLAG!
> >
>
> hehehe!!

you love it.


Danoot

Jimmery

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Feb 5, 2002, 10:20:58 AM2/5/02
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Dust Monkeył wrote:
>
> Jimmery wrote:
> >
> > > > LMFAO again!!!!
> > > >
> > > > you've gone and put your foot in it...
> > >
> > > You think it would fit?
> > >
> >
> > judgin by the picture, a bit of stretching and many feet would fit :)
>
> goatse is the satan.

im sure he/she/it is...

>
> > > > bitch!!
> > >
> > > SLAG!
> >
> > hehehe!!
>
> you love it.
>

nowhere near as much as you do tho!!!

Jimmery

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Feb 5, 2002, 10:24:04 AM2/5/02
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HOE wrote:
> the same thing three times, aint he clever...


yet another example of an xbox fanboy desperately trying to avoid the
truth...

HOE

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Feb 5, 2002, 12:56:59 PM2/5/02
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Ya the truth being your GayPube sucks ass.
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CygnusX-1

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Feb 5, 2002, 2:35:39 PM2/5/02
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What you say may be true, but the Big N has 3 aces up their sleeves:
1. worldwide brand name recognition. Sony has it too, XB doesn't
2. strong first party. sony has it. XB does, but gamers worldwide
dont know it.
3. hand held market dominance. GBA will be used to subsidize GC
losses and to get 3rd party exclusives, ie RE series.

XB fanboys want to doom GC. But if you ask most analysts, they
are more bullish on GC than XB, from a worldwide perspective.
While true, XB is outselling GC in U$. But if you look at the
numbers, XB is only slightly beating GC in sales. GC will clearly
outsell in japan and prob europe. Thus from the big picture
perspective, the future of GC is good. Of course in the meantime,
PS2 will continue to be the most dominant in terms of owners,
thanx to its strong head start. In a way, having both GC and
XB out is helping PS2 by splitting the market up so much.
Surely GC or XB would sell better if there were only 1
alternative to PS2 instead of 2.

Cygnus
The Bringer of Balance


"ANGRY" <AN...@ANGRYNET.NET> wrote in message news:<a3huep$cs5$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>...

> I'll say this once more. Nintendo wasn't ready to release the "Dolphin

> a.k.a. Gamecube", but with the pressures building from Sony's Ps2 and


> Microsoft's Xbox system, they had no choice but to release the system. The
> president of Nintendo has said this himself in interviews to the public and

> in private conferences. Project Dolphin was simply too long in production;


> the hardware would have been slightly above Sony's new machine and even out
> done by Microsoft's. Nintendo had no choice but to bring the system out

Dust Monkey³

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Feb 6, 2002, 5:49:09 AM2/6/02
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Jimmery wrote:
>
> Dust Monkeył wrote:
> >
> > Jimmery wrote:
> > >
> > > > > LMFAO again!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > you've gone and put your foot in it...
> > > >
> > > > You think it would fit?
> > > >
> > >
> > > judgin by the picture, a bit of stretching and many feet would fit :)
> >
> > goatse is the satan.
>
> im sure he/she/it is...

Prolapse = evil.

> >
> > > > > bitch!!
> > > >
> > > > SLAG!
> > >
> > > hehehe!!
> >
> > you love it.
> >
>
> nowhere near as much as you do tho!!!

Well, yeah.

.. damnit!


Danoot

Dust Monkey³

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Feb 6, 2002, 5:50:08 AM2/6/02
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HOE wrote:
>
> Ya the truth being your GayPube sucks ass.

Pubes with sexual orientations and fecal fetishes.
What a world!

Danoot

Jimmery

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Feb 6, 2002, 7:07:05 AM2/6/02
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if that was the truth then why would you be avoiding it?

or can you not understand simple english fuckhead?

Jimmery

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Feb 6, 2002, 7:08:50 AM2/6/02
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Dust Monkeył wrote:
>
> Jimmery wrote:
> >
> > Dust Monkeył wrote:
> > >
> > > Jimmery wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > LMFAO again!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you've gone and put your foot in it...
> > > > >
> > > > > You think it would fit?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > judgin by the picture, a bit of stretching and many feet would fit :)
> > >
> > > goatse is the satan.
> >
> > im sure he/she/it is...
>
> Prolapse = evil.
>

aspirin = evil

> > >
> > > > > > bitch!!
> > > > >
> > > > > SLAG!
> > > >
> > > > hehehe!!
> > >
> > > you love it.
> > >
> >
> > nowhere near as much as you do tho!!!
>
> Well, yeah.
>
> .. damnit!
>

lol!!

np: death in vegas - aisha

damn cool - go get!

HOE

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"Jimmery" <j...@redhat.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3C611C69...@redhat.freeserve.co.uk...

> if that was the truth then why would you be avoiding it?

It is the truth and I have avoided it. Why? It sucks ass. Don't have much
command of the language do you? He he SPNAKł!! Isn't that what you childrenł
er Nintendoltł GayPubeł Fansł saył? Sheehs, buncha kidsłłł. Look Mommy I'm
cubedłłł Grow up.ł

Jimmery

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Feb 6, 2002, 9:30:55 AM2/6/02
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HOE wrote:
>
> "Jimmery" <j...@redhat.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3C611C69...@redhat.freeserve.co.uk...
> > if that was the truth then why would you be avoiding it?
>
> It is the truth and I have avoided it.


if its the truth you have not avoided it at all coz you are stating what
you believe to be the truth - or more likely you are avoiding the truth
and writing "the gaypube sucks ass" because, in reality you know it
kicks ass...


> Why? It sucks ass. Don't have much
> command of the language do you? He he SPNAKł!! Isn't that what you childrenł
> er Nintendoltł GayPubeł Fansł saył? Sheehs, buncha kidsłłł. Look Mommy I'm
> cubedłłł Grow up.ł
>

see a ł on the end of my name? no...
now that you have proven your self to be a complete brainless fuckwit,
go fuck a leper...

HOE

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"Jimmery" <j...@redhat.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3C613E1F...@redhat.freeserve.co.uk...

You're not my type. Sorry. And, ...ah Sucks Ass means just that -- Licks
Sack, Bites, Blows, etc., etc., etc. K?


Steven Hurdle

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On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Ajscottjr wrote:

>> I'll say this once more. Nintendo wasn't ready to release the "Dolphin
>> a.k.a. Gamecube", but with the pressures building from Sony's Ps2 and
>> Microsoft's Xbox system, they had no choice but to release the system.

>First of all what you are talking about is pure bullshit. Second of all it
>is not about who sales the most consoles, but about who sales enough
>software to recuperate from each console sold.

How is this a response to the point you were responding to? Given the
small-ish list of launch titles for the GCN (smaller than the Dreamcast,
PS2, and Xbox launch line-ups at any rate, ie. smaller than all competing
consoles despite the fact that the GCN is allegedly easy to programme for
and that should have lent itself to a large launch line-up), that does
indeed suggest that Nintendo may have felt pressure to release the GCN
early. How can you simply say "b*llsh*t" in response to that? If you
disagree, give a reason. An expletive is not a reason.

> And since Nintendo doesn't
>have too sale as much software to recuperate from the sales of the console,
>they have a better chance of surviving the console war.

That gives Nintendo a good chance of not losing money. As for
surviving the console war, consumer interest, third-party developer
support, and sales do not hinge on whether Nintendo's profitable or not.
Microsoft and Sony both have the pockets to stay in the game. Sony, having
realised huge profits from the PSX and having invested massive sums of
investment into developing and producing the PS2 will likely see it to the
bitter end. Microsoft is similarly committed for the long haul and
definitely has the money to stay in the game as long as it desires to do
so. Given that all three will probably be in the game, we look to sales
as an indicator of how they're faring. Since all three are likely to
survive, why not?

> This means that for
>each console Nintendo sales they are pretty much breaking even. Can you say
>that about the other two consoles makers?

With a tie-ration in the 3.x range, Microsoft is not crying despite not
having broken even yet. Given the R&D and other investments Nintendo has
made in the GCN (advertising and other promotion, R&D and other
development costs, distribution and customer support) it's unlikely
Nintendo has broken even yet either, even if they're not selling the units
at a significant loss. Microsoft has a long-term business model, in any
case, and doesn't expect or need to break even until near the end of the
Xbox's life-span.

>And, before you go off tangent and say something stupid, like Sony and
>Microsoft have a larger library of games. you have too ask yourself, how
>many games does the average gamer buy or even rent in the life cycle of the
>system? Meaning Nintendo has the least amount of pressure, as with Sony and
>Microsoft.

I bought about 40 games over two years of owning a Dreamcast, probably
at least a third at full price at or near release (and I'm still
purchasing new-to-me DC games). Having a large library of games helps
guarantee there are a lot of titles that will float your boat. If you
purchase a console with a small library but one that you're very bullish
on then that's fabulous for you, but a larger library makes it more likely
you'll find games you like. So far the signal-to-noise ratio of the Xbox
library is stunning, IMO, far exceeding my expectations. There are too
many must-have games out or nearly out for me to afford them all (Halo,
Project Gotham Racing, Blood Wake, Max Payne, Wreckless, JSRF, Gun
Valkyrie, etc.).

If the Gamecube has must-have games for you then certainly you should
buy it as it's relatively inexpensive and not that much less powerful than
the Xbox (despite what some people insist :) ) and probably slightly more
so than the PS2. There are no must-have games for me in it's library,
however, so I don't expect I'll be purchasing one. Regrettably, I don't
see system sellers coming down the pipe either (remove ports from other
systems and separate the chaff from the wheat as regards the exclusive
titles and not much else is left from what I've seen, and YMMV as
regards what you like but that is a separate issue from evaluating
likely system sellers).


|||Steven Hurdle|||

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