A console that is $100 cheaper, had twice as many consoles available at
launch, has the Nintendo pedigree that parents all know........what the
fuck happened?
stinky <stin...@stank.org> wrote in message
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"stinky" <stin...@stank.org> wrote in message
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The only Gamecube game right now that doesnt get old in a couple of weeks is
Smash Brothers, and while I think its awesome, it isnt everyone's cup of
tea. There is nothing coming out until late spring at the earliest. It's
really amazing that Nintendo failed to have a killer mainstream app on
launch. They should have had either Mario, Zelda, or Metroid ready at
launch. Also, they will shoot themselves in the foot if they stick with the
stupid cel shaded look for Zelda. Supposedly Nintendo is reconsidering it.
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RnR Stone Cold
"It's True, It's True"- Kurt Angle
That's me..it's just not my cup of tea. Give me an Xbox with Halo, Blood
Wake, UFC Tapout, DOA, and a better version of NHL Hitz.
I know I am waiting for the right game until I buy the system. All of my
machine purchases have been based on just the 1 to 2 games that I wanted to
play on it. I bought Xbox for Halo, PSX for Tekken 3, N64 for Goldeneye and
WCW Revenge, SNES for Zelda , Genesis for Streets of Rage and NHL.
I was thinking about getting GC for WrestlemaniaX8 but when I heard it was
being developed by Yukes instead of Aki, I changed my mind real quick.
It's going to be on the PS2. Such a shame. They shouldn't have wasted that on
such an inferior console.
"Ransack The Elder" <nom...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> I'll say this once more. Nintendo wasn't ready to release the "Dolphin
> a.k.a. Gamecube", but with the pressures building from Sony's Ps2 and
> Microsoft's Xbox system, they had no choice but to release the system. The
> president of Nintendo has said this himself in interviews to the public and
> in private conferences. Project Dolphin was simply too long in production;
> the hardware would have been slightly above Sony's new machine and even out
> done by Microsoft's. Nintendo had no choice but to bring the system out
> even when it wasn't ready. This is why the president stated that they
> really won't have a strong launch but will focus more on Christmas 2002 in
> America. By then however it may be simply too late, especially when through
> out the year the two competitors are releasing games even online plans.
>
Online gaming's not going to be any bigger now than it was when the DC
tried to use it as a selling point.
link?
> but with the pressures building from Sony's Ps2 and
> Microsoft's Xbox system, they had no choice but to release the system. The
> president of Nintendo has said this himself in interviews to the public and
> in private conferences.
Link?
> Project Dolphin was simply too long in production;
> the hardware would have been slightly above Sony's new machine and even out
> done by Microsoft's. Nintendo had no choice but to bring the system out
> even when it wasn't ready.
Link?
Danoot
"RnR Stone Cold" <rnrcartm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
Look how important online was to the Dreamcast. That is a moot point seeing
as Nintendo will also have online stuff next year. And about releasing
games, Nintendo seems to be releasing game throughout the year as well. Go
and spout your garbage elsewhere.
I agree with this psot.
U just don't give up do you?
Spout your bullshit in the xbox newsgroup only please.
Otherwise, provide proof of your claims or get a life.
Cel shading goes with JSRF and I agree it looks awesome. But I dont like the
look of it in a Zelda game. I think Zelda should have the look of something
like Project Ego.
I agree here. Really only the die-hards will take advantage of online play.
Most like me prefer to have 4 controllers and a group of friends over to
play on split screens.
The flood actually ruined the game for me. Hated it.
What I find funny is that when I went into my local Target store they
still had four Xbox consoles sitting there just like they did two
weeks ago, but no sign of a Gamecube or Playstation 2.
And you know the president of Nintendo how? Go spread your lies
somewhere else, your the only person that believes them.
Maybe, but I'd use it if they had it. I wish they did.
Honestly, who cares what the market as a whole demands? Assuming the
GCN will do well enough to survive (and it will do that), I'm going to
want what I want!
Obviously most of this post was pure opinion and BS at that, but I
hope this part is true. Honestly, I'm not overwhelmed by the games out
for the Gamecube so far; I've yet to find a game that entertained me
as much as Mario 64 did for the N64, which in turn could carry the
weak launch. This launch had more games, but no killers, and I really
wish there was one. Monkey Ball is loads of fun, as is Smash Brothers,
and as are, to a lesser extent, others, but still, I'm left hoping
that Nintendo's focused on the near future and getting some great
games out SOON!
First of all what you are talking about is pure bullshit. Second of all it
is not about who sales the most consoles, but about who sales enough
software to recuperate from each console sold. And since Nintendo doesn't
have too sale as much software to recuperate from the sales of the console,
they have a better chance of surviving the console war. This means that for
each console Nintendo sales they are pretty much breaking even. Can you say
that about the other two consoles makers?
And, before you go off tangent and say something stupid, like Sony and
Microsoft have a larger library of games. you have too ask yourself, how
many games does the average gamer buy or even rent in the life cycle of the
system? Meaning Nintendo has the least amount of pressure, as with Sony and
Microsoft.
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HOE <Heh...@nowway.spamerino> wrote in message
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Because Nintendo has made very bad decisions lately. Crappy-Ass Nintento 64
left a bad taste in everyones mouth (not enough good games-especially
fighters). No backlit light for GBA. No panasonic "Q" option for DVD/GC
combo in the U.S. And lastly no Mario Game at launch. I don't know why the
fuck they have options of a bazillion different colors of GBA and GC but no
DVD option or backlight (gladly pay more for them).
Paul
"stinky" <stin...@stank.org> wrote in message
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Usually when you talk about private conversations of an executive you will
be asked for proof. It's only logical.
Well, shit. That's me put in my place.
Danoot
i think he is trying to chat you up dood - watch out!!
I'm not being the bitch again!
Danoot
again?
Just realised what context the link I posted was in.
Oh god.
Erm..
Danoot
LMFAO!!!!!
LMFAO again!!!!
you've gone and put your foot in it...
bitch!!
You think it would fit?
> bitch!!
SLAG!
Danoot
judgin by the picture, a bit of stretching and many feet would fit :)
> > bitch!!
>
> SLAG!
>
hehehe!!
goatse is the satan.
> > > bitch!!
> >
> > SLAG!
> >
>
> hehehe!!
you love it.
Danoot
Dust Monkeył wrote:
>
> Jimmery wrote:
> >
> > > > LMFAO again!!!!
> > > >
> > > > you've gone and put your foot in it...
> > >
> > > You think it would fit?
> > >
> >
> > judgin by the picture, a bit of stretching and many feet would fit :)
>
> goatse is the satan.
im sure he/she/it is...
>
> > > > bitch!!
> > >
> > > SLAG!
> >
> > hehehe!!
>
> you love it.
>
nowhere near as much as you do tho!!!
HOE wrote:
> the same thing three times, aint he clever...
yet another example of an xbox fanboy desperately trying to avoid the
truth...
XB fanboys want to doom GC. But if you ask most analysts, they
are more bullish on GC than XB, from a worldwide perspective.
While true, XB is outselling GC in U$. But if you look at the
numbers, XB is only slightly beating GC in sales. GC will clearly
outsell in japan and prob europe. Thus from the big picture
perspective, the future of GC is good. Of course in the meantime,
PS2 will continue to be the most dominant in terms of owners,
thanx to its strong head start. In a way, having both GC and
XB out is helping PS2 by splitting the market up so much.
Surely GC or XB would sell better if there were only 1
alternative to PS2 instead of 2.
Cygnus
The Bringer of Balance
"ANGRY" <AN...@ANGRYNET.NET> wrote in message news:<a3huep$cs5$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>...
> I'll say this once more. Nintendo wasn't ready to release the "Dolphin
> a.k.a. Gamecube", but with the pressures building from Sony's Ps2 and
> Microsoft's Xbox system, they had no choice but to release the system. The
> president of Nintendo has said this himself in interviews to the public and
> in private conferences. Project Dolphin was simply too long in production;
> the hardware would have been slightly above Sony's new machine and even out
> done by Microsoft's. Nintendo had no choice but to bring the system out
Prolapse = evil.
> >
> > > > > bitch!!
> > > >
> > > > SLAG!
> > >
> > > hehehe!!
> >
> > you love it.
> >
>
> nowhere near as much as you do tho!!!
Well, yeah.
.. damnit!
Danoot
Pubes with sexual orientations and fecal fetishes.
What a world!
Danoot
or can you not understand simple english fuckhead?
Dust Monkeył wrote:
>
> Jimmery wrote:
> >
> > Dust Monkeył wrote:
> > >
> > > Jimmery wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > LMFAO again!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you've gone and put your foot in it...
> > > > >
> > > > > You think it would fit?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > judgin by the picture, a bit of stretching and many feet would fit :)
> > >
> > > goatse is the satan.
> >
> > im sure he/she/it is...
>
> Prolapse = evil.
>
aspirin = evil
> > >
> > > > > > bitch!!
> > > > >
> > > > > SLAG!
> > > >
> > > > hehehe!!
> > >
> > > you love it.
> > >
> >
> > nowhere near as much as you do tho!!!
>
> Well, yeah.
>
> .. damnit!
>
lol!!
np: death in vegas - aisha
damn cool - go get!
It is the truth and I have avoided it. Why? It sucks ass. Don't have much
command of the language do you? He he SPNAKł!! Isn't that what you childrenł
er Nintendoltł GayPubeł Fansł saył? Sheehs, buncha kidsłłł. Look Mommy I'm
cubedłłł Grow up.ł
HOE wrote:
>
> "Jimmery" <j...@redhat.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3C611C69...@redhat.freeserve.co.uk...
> > if that was the truth then why would you be avoiding it?
>
> It is the truth and I have avoided it.
if its the truth you have not avoided it at all coz you are stating what
you believe to be the truth - or more likely you are avoiding the truth
and writing "the gaypube sucks ass" because, in reality you know it
kicks ass...
> Why? It sucks ass. Don't have much
> command of the language do you? He he SPNAKł!! Isn't that what you childrenł
> er Nintendoltł GayPubeł Fansł saył? Sheehs, buncha kidsłłł. Look Mommy I'm
> cubedłłł Grow up.ł
>
see a ł on the end of my name? no...
now that you have proven your self to be a complete brainless fuckwit,
go fuck a leper...
You're not my type. Sorry. And, ...ah Sucks Ass means just that -- Licks
Sack, Bites, Blows, etc., etc., etc. K?
>> I'll say this once more. Nintendo wasn't ready to release the "Dolphin
>> a.k.a. Gamecube", but with the pressures building from Sony's Ps2 and
>> Microsoft's Xbox system, they had no choice but to release the system.
>First of all what you are talking about is pure bullshit. Second of all it
>is not about who sales the most consoles, but about who sales enough
>software to recuperate from each console sold.
How is this a response to the point you were responding to? Given the
small-ish list of launch titles for the GCN (smaller than the Dreamcast,
PS2, and Xbox launch line-ups at any rate, ie. smaller than all competing
consoles despite the fact that the GCN is allegedly easy to programme for
and that should have lent itself to a large launch line-up), that does
indeed suggest that Nintendo may have felt pressure to release the GCN
early. How can you simply say "b*llsh*t" in response to that? If you
disagree, give a reason. An expletive is not a reason.
> And since Nintendo doesn't
>have too sale as much software to recuperate from the sales of the console,
>they have a better chance of surviving the console war.
That gives Nintendo a good chance of not losing money. As for
surviving the console war, consumer interest, third-party developer
support, and sales do not hinge on whether Nintendo's profitable or not.
Microsoft and Sony both have the pockets to stay in the game. Sony, having
realised huge profits from the PSX and having invested massive sums of
investment into developing and producing the PS2 will likely see it to the
bitter end. Microsoft is similarly committed for the long haul and
definitely has the money to stay in the game as long as it desires to do
so. Given that all three will probably be in the game, we look to sales
as an indicator of how they're faring. Since all three are likely to
survive, why not?
> This means that for
>each console Nintendo sales they are pretty much breaking even. Can you say
>that about the other two consoles makers?
With a tie-ration in the 3.x range, Microsoft is not crying despite not
having broken even yet. Given the R&D and other investments Nintendo has
made in the GCN (advertising and other promotion, R&D and other
development costs, distribution and customer support) it's unlikely
Nintendo has broken even yet either, even if they're not selling the units
at a significant loss. Microsoft has a long-term business model, in any
case, and doesn't expect or need to break even until near the end of the
Xbox's life-span.
>And, before you go off tangent and say something stupid, like Sony and
>Microsoft have a larger library of games. you have too ask yourself, how
>many games does the average gamer buy or even rent in the life cycle of the
>system? Meaning Nintendo has the least amount of pressure, as with Sony and
>Microsoft.
I bought about 40 games over two years of owning a Dreamcast, probably
at least a third at full price at or near release (and I'm still
purchasing new-to-me DC games). Having a large library of games helps
guarantee there are a lot of titles that will float your boat. If you
purchase a console with a small library but one that you're very bullish
on then that's fabulous for you, but a larger library makes it more likely
you'll find games you like. So far the signal-to-noise ratio of the Xbox
library is stunning, IMO, far exceeding my expectations. There are too
many must-have games out or nearly out for me to afford them all (Halo,
Project Gotham Racing, Blood Wake, Max Payne, Wreckless, JSRF, Gun
Valkyrie, etc.).
If the Gamecube has must-have games for you then certainly you should
buy it as it's relatively inexpensive and not that much less powerful than
the Xbox (despite what some people insist :) ) and probably slightly more
so than the PS2. There are no must-have games for me in it's library,
however, so I don't expect I'll be purchasing one. Regrettably, I don't
see system sellers coming down the pipe either (remove ports from other
systems and separate the chaff from the wheat as regards the exclusive
titles and not much else is left from what I've seen, and YMMV as
regards what you like but that is a separate issue from evaluating
likely system sellers).
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