HD-DVD goes into coma during last 72 hours
Blig Merk
The really big news is that Steven Spielberg has signed on for his
first Blu-ray exclusive, Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Only
more are sure to follow. The rest of the news is several studios and
retailers going Blu-ray exclusive. It is only a matter of a little
more time now for Universal to cave in, they can't sell without
retailers. As HD-DVD goes, so will the xflop 3-shitty. Just a few
months ago, the xflop fanbitches were crowing about how HD-DVD was
"winning" and how Blu-ray was dead. As usual, they were totally wrong
about that.
- Close Encounters of the Third Kind Announced Exclusively on Blu-
ray!!
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=351
- Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End Announced Exclusively on
Blu-ray!!
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=353
- Denon enters HD optical with Exclusive Blu-ray support with the
DVD-3800BDCI.
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=340
- BJ's Wholesale Club Stores To Carry Blu-ray Exclusively
http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6463556.html
- Woolworths go Blu-ray exclusive. Drop HD-DVD.
http://www.playthree.net/2007/07/woolworths-go-blu-ray-exclusive-drop-hd.html
- Razor Digital announces Blu-ray Exclusivity with four IMAX titles
for Blu-ray on November 13th.
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=337
- Questar announces Blu-ray Exclusivity with three titles which
include 'Rudy Maxa's Europe to the Max', 'The Enchanted Pacific to the
Max' and a yet to be announced PBS nature series title.
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=338
- Tartan Video confirms Blu-ray Exclusivity and announces three
titles, 'Black Book', 'The Seventh Seal', and 'Oldboy' on October
23rd.
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=336
- 'Bram Stoker's Dracula' announced for Exclusive release on Blu-ray
for October 2nd.
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=339
- 'Rein Over Me' announced for Exclusive release on Blu-ray forOctober
9th.
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=334
-Optimum (Studio Canal) Announces Blu-ray Support
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=358
-Entertainment in Video Announces Blu-ray Support
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=329
Android
"Blig Merk" <blig...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Blu-Ray beating HD-DVD, which seems a near certainty lately, is not the same
as PS3 beating Xbox 360.
It doesn't matter to MS if Blu-Ray or HD-DVD "wins" the format war. The 360
doesn't rely upon either format. If the market was there, and they thought
they could make $$$ doing it, MS could always release a Blu-Ray add-on for
the 360.
On the other hand, it *is* a big deal for Sony if Blu-Ray loses the format
war. True, they could still make PS3 games using Blu-Ray disks, but lack of
Blu-Ray movies eliminates one benefit of purchasing a PS3. And with no
movie studio support, and hence no Blu-Ray licensing fees, it would be a lot
more expensive for Sony to keep the format up for long.
Although it may be a coincidence, if you think about it, no disk-based game
system has ever succeeded using a proprietary format. The PlayStation used
CD-ROMs. The PS2 used DVD-ROMs. They could play music and movies. I think
it is important for Blu-Ray to be a viable media for the PS3 to eventually
succeed.
RMZ
> Over the past 72 hours, the following news has come out about Blu-ray.
> The really big news is that Steven Spielberg has signed on for his
> first Blu-ray exclusive, Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Only
> more are sure to follow. The rest of the news is several studios and
> retailers going Blu-ray exclusive. It is only a matter of a little
> more time now for Universal to cave in, they can't sell without
> retailers. As HD-DVD goes, so will the xflop 3-shitty. Just a few
> months ago, the xflop fanbitches were crowing about how HD-DVD was
> "winning" and how Blu-ray was dead. As usual, they were totally wrong
> about that.
>
> - Close Encounters of the Third Kind Announced Exclusively on Blu-
>
> - Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End Announced Exclusively on
>
> - Denon enters HD optical with Exclusive Blu-ray support with the
>
> - BJ's Wholesale Club Stores To Carry Blu-ray Exclusivelyhttp://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6463556.html
>
> - Woolworths go Blu-ray exclusive. Drop HD-DVD.http://www.playthree.net/2007/07/woolworths-go-blu-ray-exclusive-drop...
>
> - Razor Digital announces Blu-ray Exclusivity with four IMAX titles
>
> - Questar announces Blu-ray Exclusivity with three titles which
> include 'Rudy Maxa's Europe to the Max', 'The Enchanted Pacific to the
>
> - Tartan Video confirms Blu-ray Exclusivity and announces three
> titles, 'Black Book', 'The Seventh Seal', and 'Oldboy' on October
>
> - 'Bram Stoker's Dracula' announced for Exclusive release on Blu-ray
>
> - 'Rein Over Me' announced for Exclusive release on Blu-ray forOctober
>
> -Optimum (Studio Canal) Announces Blu-ray Supporthttp://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=358
Over the past few months I have posted multiple times that that I
think Blu-Ray is winning the battle for the format standard.... The
problem is that once that battle is won, then we have the war between
the winning next-gen standard and DVD, that one will be a much more
difficult one to fight and the window to win it for Blu-Ray might be
small if some other vendor produces a more advanced media format.
Think that won't happen? Well it could, have you ever heard of D-
VHS?
Yeah most people haven't... but it was a HD digital video tape format
that failed, but is still technically around.... Granted Blu-Ray
stands a much better chance, but it's going to be a long battle once
Blu-Ray is officially declared "the standard".
It still could be a very bad situation for someone to drop $500 on a
Blu-Ray player, and at $30 a pop start replacing their DVD movie
library only to have the format go obsolete, It's too risky for me...
But if we didn't have early adopters the format would never get pushed
forward.
Blackheart
> Over the past 72 hours, the following news has come out about Blu-ray.
> The really big news is that Steven Spielberg has signed on for his
> first Blu-ray exclusive, Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Only
> more are sure to follow. The rest of the news is several studios and
> retailers going Blu-ray exclusive. It is only a matter of a little
> more time now for Universal to cave in, they can't sell without
> retailers. As HD-DVD goes, so will the xflop 3-shitty.
who cares about movies? where are the games?
Jordan
> Over the past 72 hours, the following news has come out about Blu-ray.
What you fail to grasp, continually, is that the success of the 360 is
not tied to the success of HD-DVD.
If HD-DVD stopped being produced today it would not impact the 360 at
all because the 360 does not use an HD-DVD drive for it's media.
Microsoft or a 3rd party could simply come out with a USB Blu-Ray
drive.
On the other hand, the fate of Blu-Ray is inexorably tied to the
success of the PS3. If the PS3 continues to fail, as it is doing now,
then Blu-Ray is dead. Why? Because nobody is buying stand alone Blu-
Ray players.
Stand alone HD-DVD players are outselling stand alone Blu-Ray players
3:1. The only thing keeping the Blu-Ray format alive is the PS3 and
only a minor fraction of PS3 owners are jumping on the Blu-Ray
bandwagon.
If the PS3 continues to remain in last place in the gaming market it
will not be able to survive solely based on Blu-Ray, it will die and
Blu-Ray will go with it.
- Jordan
Skwisgaar Skwigelf
"Blackheart" <blackhear...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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There are no games. That's why PoS3tards like bilgemerk and hank the perkoff
(or whatever it's calling itself today) keep blathering on about bluray.
jeremi...@yahoo.co.uk
<rhetoric snipped>
Well at least you can watch some movies while you're waiting for those
PS3 exclusives.
Hank the Raper
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da PS3 dont nedz no gamz.da PS3 iz outcellin yu XFLop 1.5 thre-shiity fool
sirkil fanfaireez
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Tom
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And if the trend goes with BR winning, I bet those who bought the HD-DVD
add-on for the 360 will feel kind of screwed when movies are no longer made
in that format. That is why I won't purchase any HD player whatsoever, until
a format is decided upon by all of the media outlets as the format of
choice.
Jordan
> And if the trend goes with BR winning, I bet those who bought the HD-DVD
> add-on for the 360 will feel kind of screwed when movies are no longer made
> in that format. That is why I won't purchase any HD player whatsoever, until
> a format is decided upon by all of the media outlets as the format of
> choice.- Hide quoted text -
I don't know why anyone would feel "screwed". If the format dies it
doesn't mean I can't watch the movies I already own. Heck, my
laserdisc player still works...
Both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are niche markets at this point, it doesn't
make sense to get attached either way. Fighting over who has 1.2% of
the market vs. 0.8% of the market is just silly. Neither platform is a
success right now.
- Jordan
Tired of Fanboys
Too many idiotic fan boys get caughtSo up in this stupid format war
simply because their fabourite games console has the ability to play
one or the other.
>From a user experience point of view, neither has any advantage over
the other.
It's only the technology in the background that is different, and when
you read the arguments about why X is better than Y all it boils down
to is they want to justify their petty little bias using logic and
reason, when all it comes down to is 'It Roz0rz!'.
So great, one format might win over the other. Their combined
marketshare is less than 2% of the media market anyway, so the real
battle is with DVD, and much further down the line, downloads.
Big Daddy
"Jordan" <lu...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Jul 27, 6:33 pm, Blig Merk <blig_m...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Over the past 72 hours, the following news has come out about Blu-ray.
>
> What you fail to grasp, continually, is that the success of the 360 is
> not tied to the success of HD-DVD.
>
> If HD-DVD stopped being produced today it would not impact the 360 at
> all because the 360 does not use an HD-DVD drive for it's media.
> Microsoft or a 3rd party could simply come out with a USB Blu-Ray
> drive.
absolutely agree
> On the other hand, the fate of Blu-Ray is inexorably tied to the
> success of the PS3. If the PS3 continues to fail, as it is doing now,
> then Blu-Ray is dead. Why? Because nobody is buying stand alone Blu-
> Ray players.
absolutely disagree. Now that Blu-Ray has won, it's future success is no
longer tied to the PS3's success. That's like saying once VHS actually
won the format war and Sony, JVC, Phillips, etc. started producing them,
then all of a sudden JVC went under, that VHS would have suddenly failed.
That one thing wouldn't roll back studio backing, consumer interest,
production and use by the technology companies, etc.
It IS the next generation VIDEO and STORAGE format. PS3 happens to be a
player in that market, but it's just 1 player.
Put it this way, 2 years from now when someone wants to upgrade their media
center, different Blu-Ray players will be what he is choosing from. HD-DVD
will likely not even be an option 2 years from now, and DVD will still be
around, but buying one would be like buying a VHS player today (why buy it
when the other is almost as cheap and has more features). PC's will ship
with Blu-Ray drives and Blu-Ray burners, since that is the format that won,
and your player in your living room will be Blu-Ray.
> Stand alone HD-DVD players are outselling stand alone Blu-Ray players
> 3:1.
The reason Blu-Ray and PS3 are synonomous right now is that people like me,
and thousands other at AVS forums, who wanted a Blu-Ray player (as it is the
superior format) can also get a gaming system as part of that purchase for
basically the same price. As the standalone players become cheaper (which
they already have) and it's clear that the format has won (which it's fastly
becoming), Joe Sixpack will start buying standalone players when he's going
to upgrade his media center.
Big Daddy
<jeremi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Oh, I'm only allowed to play PS3 exclusives? Heck, here I've been playing
dozens of multi-platform and PS2 games.
Nick Soapdish, Jr.
> <jeremieba...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
Shhhhh, don't tell him that........it's against the console wars
rulebook to point out things that are as plain as day.
Tom
I didn't say "I" would feel screwed, just how some may feel that have the
HD-DVD player; I don't own one as I alluded in my previous post. Yes, they
can play their current genre of HD-DVD made movies, but if the other format
becomes the one, then that is all they watch of their player when the media
makers drop the HD-DVD format. It wouldn't be long when they release those
same HD-DVD movies out on BR (this on the basis if that is what happens in
the format war).
JoJo#1MSFanboy
lu...@earthlink.net says...
Yeppers! Funny how Bliggety never talks about games anymore? I wonder why?
jeremi...@yahoo.co.uk
Since when was Bliggy (who my post was directed at) interested in
multi-platform games?
Hank the Raper
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da PS3 dont nedz no gamz.da PS3 iz outcellin yu XFLop 1.5 thre-shiity fool
boodybandit
"Hank the Raper" <XFLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Hank if you're so sick of the fanboy nonsense that goes on here why do you
still visit these groups? I haven't seen you post one things other than
this copy and post crapola for the past couple months.
Rip
Big Merk now is Big Jerk :)
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timeOday
> On Jul 27, 6:33 pm, Blig Merk <blig_m...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Over the past 72 hours, the following news has come out about Blu-ray.
>
> What you fail to grasp, continually, is that the success of the 360 is
> not tied to the success of HD-DVD.
>
> If HD-DVD stopped being produced today it would not impact the 360 at
> all because the 360 does not use an HD-DVD drive for it's media.
Blu-Ray/HD-DVD doesn't *directly* affect the XBox, but it does affect
the competitive landscape because every Blu-Ray movie title released
adds value to the PS3. Not all PS3 owners want to play movies, but it
will be a tiebreaker for some percentage of console buyers, increasing
PS3 sales relative to what they would have been if Blu-Ray movies had
flopped. This, in turn, means a larger user base and thus more games
available for the PS3 in the long run.
It also means we're going to be subjected to a lot of crowing about the
brilliance of bundling Blu-Ray with the PS3 from Sony Execs and their
fanboys, and I'm afraid they'll have something of a point. The Blu-Ray
gamble appears poised to pay off.
Jordan
> Not all PS3 owners want to play movies, but it
> will be a tiebreaker for some percentage of console buyers, increasing
> PS3 sales relative to what they would have been if Blu-Ray movies had
> flopped.
I really don't think that's going to happen, if it were then the PS3
would be selling much more than it is now.
Besides there's this fun study:
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/06/29/sorry-sony-console-buyers-dont-care-about-watching-movies/
Gamers don't use consoles as DVD players [Update]
A new research report by The Diffusion Group has found that only a
small percentage of console owners actually use the inherent DVD
playback capabilities of their PS2s and Xbox 360s.
According to the report, 80% of console owners have DVD playback
options on at least one of their systems, but a staggering 70% didn't
even realize that the feature was available. The report concludes that
despite the best efforts of companies like Microsoft and Sony,
consumers are still using video game consoles to play games, and
rarely use them for non-gaming purposes.
For the Xbox 360 and PS2, this may be due in large part to the
prolificacy of standalone DVD players, but that's not the case with
the Playstation 3. Earlier this week, we reported that PS3 sales make
up the bulk of Blu-ray disc players in homes, with less than 100,000
standalone players sold thus far in North America. If PS3 owners
aren't using their systems to watch movies, or even aware that the
option exists, that spells bad news for Sony's shiny blue format.
Update: We received a tip that clued us in to some inaccuracies in our
original source for this post, specifically relating to Blu-ray discs.
Though the report does bring up Sony's Playstation 3, the research
only covers consoles with DVD playback, meaning that the numbers do
not reflect Blu-ray sales or the PS3, contrary to our original
assumptions.
Hank the Raper
"boodybandit" <allabo...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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ah aintz sedz no such fingz.yu XFLop 1.5 thre-shiity fool sirkil fanfaireez
dontz noze nuthin.
elr...@pop.uky.edu
> - Woolworths go Blu-ray exclusive. Drop HD-DVD.
Oh my God, now shoppers in the 1960's will only be able to buy blu-ray
players!!
-Eric
mordacp...@hotmail.com
> <jeremieba...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
So you paid $600 for a PS3 to play PS2 games when all you had to do is
pay $129 for a PS2?
Brilliant!
Big Daddy
<mordacp...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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No, I paid $600 for a blu-ray player, PS3, PS2, and PS1 player and as such I
can use my device for any or all of the above.
Ethan Hammond
they could win, WIN!
--
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http://www.angelfire.com/tx/apcr/index.html
Ethan Hammond
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But if you win now that is 100% of the current and future market.
GMAN
>On Jul 27, 8:33 pm, Blig Merk <blig_m...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Over the past 72 hours, the following news has come out about Blu-ray.
>> first Blu-ray exclusive, Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Only
>> more are sure to follow. The rest of the news is several studios and
>> retailers going Blu-ray exclusive. It is only a matter of a little
>> more time now for Universal to cave in, they can't sell without
>> retailers. As HD-DVD goes, so will the xflop 3-shitty. Just a few
>> months ago, the xflop fanbitches were crowing about how HD-DVD was
>> "winning" and how Blu-ray was dead. As usual, they were totally wrong
>> about that.
>>
>> - Close Encounters of the Third Kind Announced Exclusively on Blu-
>>
>> - Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End Announced Exclusively on
>>
>> - Denon enters HD optical with Exclusive Blu-ray support with the
>>
>> - BJ's Wholesale Club Stores To Carry Blu-ray
> Exclusivelyhttp://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6463556.html
>>
>.
>>
>> - Razor Digital announces Blu-ray Exclusivity with four IMAX titles
>>
>> - Questar announces Blu-ray Exclusivity with three titles which
>> include 'Rudy Maxa's Europe to the Max', 'The Enchanted Pacific to the
>> Max' and a yet to be announced PBS nature series
>>
>> - Tartan Video confirms Blu-ray Exclusivity and announces three
>> titles, 'Black Book', 'The Seventh Seal', and 'Oldboy' on October
>>
>> - 'Bram Stoker's Dracula' announced for Exclusive release on Blu-ray
>>
>> - 'Rein Over Me' announced for Exclusive release on Blu-ray forOctober
>>
>> -Optimum (Studio Canal) Announces Blu-ray
>think Blu-Ray is winning the battle for the format standard.... The
>problem is that once that battle is won, then we have the war between
>the winning next-gen standard and DVD, that one will be a much more
>difficult one to fight and the window to win it for Blu-Ray might be
>small if some other vendor produces a more advanced media format.
>Think that won't happen? Well it could, have you ever heard of D-
>VHS?
>
D-VHS was stillborn at birth!!!!!
>http://www.dvhsmovie.com/
>
>Yeah most people haven't... but it was a HD digital video tape format
>that failed, but is still technically around.... Granted Blu-Ray
>stands a much better chance, but it's going to be a long battle once
>Blu-Ray is officially declared "the standard".
>
>It still could be a very bad situation for someone to drop $500 on a
>Blu-Ray player, and at $30 a pop start replacing their DVD movie
>library only to have the format go obsolete, It's too risky for me...
>But if we didn't have early adopters the format would never get pushed
>forward.
>
>
>
>
>
>
Doug Jacobs
> Too many idiotic fan boys get caughtSo up in this stupid format war
> simply because their fabourite games console has the ability to play
> one or the other.
Too true. But then, why get so excited about a secondary function?
That's like arguing which kitchen knife makes the best hammer.
> >From a user experience point of view, neither has any advantage over
> the other.
> It's only the technology in the background that is different, and when
> you read the arguments about why X is better than Y all it boils down
> to is they want to justify their petty little bias using logic and
> reason, when all it comes down to is 'It Roz0rz!'.
The problem is that only the high-end afficianados will be able to tell,
or appreciate, the differences between the two. For all practical
purposes, the two are identical in that they can present a movie, in
native 1080p, with surround sound, on a single disc. All the differences
after that are nits or require a solid background in computers or
electronics to understand, and sometimes, distinguish.
> So great, one format might win over the other. Their combined
> marketshare is less than 2% of the media market anyway, so the real
> battle is with DVD, and much further down the line, downloads.
--
It's not broken. It's...advanced.
Doug Jacobs
> I didn't say "I" would feel screwed, just how some may feel that have the
> HD-DVD player; I don't own one as I alluded in my previous post. Yes, they
> can play their current genre of HD-DVD made movies, but if the other format
> becomes the one, then that is all they watch of their player when the media
> makers drop the HD-DVD format. It wouldn't be long when they release those
> same HD-DVD movies out on BR (this on the basis if that is what happens in
> the format war).
Personally, no one should feel screwed if $HD_FORMAT dies off. It was
their choice to be an early adopter, and with that comes the risk of
ending up with orphaned hardware. Hasn't this already happend with HDTVs
a few times already?
Doug Jacobs
> It also means we're going to be subjected to a lot of crowing about the
> brilliance of bundling Blu-Ray with the PS3 from Sony Execs and their
> fanboys, and I'm afraid they'll have something of a point. The Blu-Ray
> gamble appears poised to pay off.
Maybe, but I won't consider it a win until HD-DVD is totally dead,
firesales on movies, no more consumer HD-DVD equipment being made, and all
previously HD-DVD only titles re-announced for blu-ray. As I said, Dead
Dead Dead Dead.
If, on the other hand, HD-DVD manages to hold on, and the hybrid players
hit the market, then there's a good chance both formats will survive -
which means no one won the war (except the company making the hybrid
players, of course...) And, no, this wouldn't mean that Sony should be
proud of their foresight in packaging blu-ray with the PS3. This would be
the worst outcome for consumer as it's going to result in less reliable
hardware because of the added complexity of supporting both formats, not
to mention the confusion of having 2 different HD discs out there.
Bleah! Stupid companies should have spent the extra 2 months or so to have
just come up with a single format.
GMAN
>On Jul 29, 10:10 pm, timeOday <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote:
>
>> Not all PS3 owners want to play movies, but it
>> will be a tiebreaker for some percentage of console buyers, increasing
>> PS3 sales relative to what they would have been if Blu-Ray movies had
>> flopped.
>
>I really don't think that's going to happen, if it were then the PS3
>would be selling much more than it is now.
>
>Besides there's this fun study:
>
>http://www.joystiq.com/2007/06/29/sorry-sony-console-buyers-dont-care-about-wat
>ching-movies/
>
>Gamers don't use consoles as DVD players [Update]
>
>A new research report by The Diffusion Group has found that only a
>small percentage of console owners actually use the inherent DVD
>playback capabilities of their PS2s and Xbox 360s.
>
>According to the report, 80% of console owners have DVD playback
>options on at least one of their systems, but a staggering 70% didn't
>even realize that the feature was available. The report concludes that
>despite the best efforts of companies like Microsoft and Sony,
>consumers are still using video game consoles to play games, and
>rarely use them for non-gaming purposes.
>
Those same 70% didn't realize that using toilet paper and deoderant and
showering daily was available, let alone what their consoles are capable of.
GMAN
AND all of our new PS3 games. WTF is it any of your business?
GMAN
>Now if only Sony would allow pron on blu ray
>they could win, WIN!
>
Is it the same reason you wear those gay boxer shorts?
Doug Jacobs
> Now if only Sony would allow pron on blu ray
> they could win, WIN!
I thought there was already blu-ray pr0n in Japan?
And who actually BUYS pr0n on discs anymore? It's far easier, (cheaper?),
faster and more anonymous to just download stuff over the internet. Pr0n
might have been a decisive victory for VHS/Beta, but isn't going to make
nearly as big a difference for Blu-Ray/HD-DVD.
Doug Jacobs
> Or porn! LMFAO, why do you duchebags always mispell this just to look cool?
> Is it the same reason you wear those gay boxer shorts?
Hey, my wife happens to like my boxer shorts! ;)
Troy Telford
The thing a lot of people don't realize, is that Betamax was declared
the winner (by Sony, of course), and had the market share, etc. In
1983, betamax was on top. By 1985, things had turned sharply in favor
of VHS.
With players like LG & Samsung having dual-format players by the
holiday season, I think it will be safer to say that the format war
will end, because nobody won.
In all honesty, Apple can brag competitive numbers for selling movies
on iTunes. I'm sure Microsoft has decent numbers for the XBox Live
Marketplace sales.
Frankly, I don't think either Blu-ray or HD DVD is going to "win". The
hybrid players, combined with the convenience of downloading a movie
from the internet (legally), means that there is a *lot* more that has
to be done for BD or HD DVD to "win".
It's almost as immature as saying that the Playstation won the console
war, so we shouldn't have Xboxes or Wiis.
GMAN
>GMAN <glen...@xmission.nospam.com> wrote:
>> Or porn! LMFAO, why do you duchebags always mispell this just to look cool?
>> Is it the same reason you wear those gay boxer shorts?
>
>Hey, my wife happens to like my boxer shorts! ;)
>
whilst wearing your pants down around your knees!!!
It cracks me up to see these gang bangers getting caught by the police when
they trip over their pants when they run away.