Command and Conquer is one of the biggest and most loved game franchises in
history and now it looks as though it will be coming to the PSP in 2005.
The Westwood Studios series practically started the real time strategy genre
(although technically their Dune 2 game predated C&C).
During an interview on CNN, the President of Electronic Arts, who now own
Westwood, revealed that two Command & Conquer games will arrive on the PSP
"within this year". The PSP games will be based on C&C and C&C Red Alert,
but as those are both pretty long in the tooth expect significant
improvements.
http://www.modojo.com/articles/news/20050328/80/
The famous RTS will be making its way onto Sony's handheld later this
year...
Westwood Studios, famed developer of the Command & Conquer series,
recently commented to CNN on the launch of Sony's PSP video game handheld.
During the brief interview, the President of Electronic Arts, who now own
Westwood Studios, revealed that a Command & Conquer game will appear on the
PSP.
"I'm prepared to make the necessary move. I've always wanted to play
incredibly large scale games on the go, on flights, and even on road trips.
I'm pretty sure the fans will be excited to hear that Command & Conquer, and
Command & Conquer Red Alert will be making appearances on the PSP. We don't
have a slated release date, but the games will have to be totally revamped
for PSP's UMD architecture. Nonetheless, expect the Command & Conquer
franchise to make its move on the PSP within this year."
"The games will be totally revamped for PSP's UMD architecture"
Since its PC debut back in 1995, the Command & Conquer franchise
remains one of the best selling and most popular real-time strategy game
series ever to be released. This news will no doubt put a smile on the faces
of many PSP owners, and could very well end up as a huge selling point for
the system.
- Richard Hutnik
Age of Empires has been announced for the DS and I here rumours of Red Alert
3 as well.
I don't know how well Command and Conquer would work on the PSP with no
touch screen/mouse. I could see Nintendo porting Command and Conquer N64 to
the DS with improvements like they did Mario DS. That would be excellent. I
am glad I have both the PSP and the DS :)
As for the guy asking how the mouse would work with the PSP... i'm sure
the analog stick will work just fine.
--Brenden
- Richard Hutnik
> This has my attention. I own all the C&C games... and LOVE them.
Doubt it. Have you ever owned a laptop, etc, with one of those pointing
sticks? It's practically unusable as the input. They'll probably dumb down
the game significantly to get it to work. They'll have to. It'll probably
be a great game, but won't have much in common with C&C, really.
And how can you make a C&C game and have it NOT have much in common
with C&C??? Your statement makes no sense.
> Yes i have owned a laptop but its very obvious that you dont own a PSP.
*Sigh* Or very obvious you missed the point.
> The analog stick on the psp is nothing like the little rubber nub on a
> laptop. The stick on the PSP moves.. the rubber nub does not... if you
> had a PSP you'd know this.
And, really, how much does that change the fact that you're using a joystick
to perform a mouse action? So, if you didn't miss the point, you would have
realized that there's no difference between the two functionally.
> I'd beg to say that its even better than an
> actual analog stick. Its definitely great for driving IMO.
We talking about driving? No, we are talking about using it as mouse
substitute, my over reacting fanboy.
> And how can you make a C&C game and have it NOT have much in common
> with C&C???
Same way you can make Metal Gear AC!D, Pokemon Dash, etc, etc, etc? Does
that help?
> Your statement makes no sense.
Perhaps the problem is on your end, my friend?
Nice quoting there so we know what the hell you're on about.
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You push left it goes left, you push right it goes right... no shit...
but the nub doesnt actually move, its technically stationary... the
stick moves. So by design they are in fact different.
>
> > I'd beg to say that its even better than an
> > actual analog stick. Its definitely great for driving IMO.
>
> We talking about driving? No, we are talking about using it as mouse
> substitute, my over reacting fanboy.
You will refer to me as FANMAN... LOL. I'd still take the PSP's stick
over a laptop nub any day... it just FEELS right. Its obviously NOT a
mouse, and i never stated it to be so... nor did i say it was better
than a mouse. I only said that the stick on the PSP would work fine.
Your argument is WHAT?
>
> > And how can you make a C&C game and have it NOT have much in common
> > with C&C???
>
> Same way you can make Metal Gear AC!D, Pokemon Dash, etc, etc, etc?
Does
> that help?
>
a bird is a bird whether its flying or its perched on a wire shitting
on your car, is it not. C&C anything will still have C&C in it. THAT
was my point. I think you missed your point the first time. But i get
you now.
> > Your statement makes no sense.
>
> Perhaps the problem is on your end, my friend?
i believe we are on the same page now.
How... because of a single rumor. Doesnt take much does it.. LOL
I appologize, i'm new to using google as a newsreader... i've figured
it out now.
Thanks.
> sorry if i'm fucking posting from google, take it up with them.
lol. That's ironic.
I'm sure I'm not the only one that knows what he's talking about here.
>> And, really, how much does that change the fact that you're using a
> joystick
>> to perform a mouse action? So, if you didn't miss the point, you
> would have
>> realized that there's no difference between the two functionally.
>
> You push left it goes left, you push right it goes right... no shit...
> but the nub doesnt actually move, its technically stationary... the
> stick moves. So by design they are in fact different.
Insiginicantly so for this discussion, my friend. The point is moot.
>> > I'd beg to say that its even better than an
>> > actual analog stick. Its definitely great for driving IMO.
>>
>> We talking about driving? No, we are talking about using it as mouse
>
>> substitute, my over reacting fanboy.
>
> You will refer to me as FANMAN... LOL. I'd still take the PSP's stick
> over a laptop nub any day... it just FEELS right.
Get a clue, please.
> Its obviously NOT a
> mouse, and i never stated it to be so... nor did i say it was better
> than a mouse. I only said that the stick on the PSP would work fine.
> Your argument is WHAT?
That it is the same as using a nub functionally, and those are shit for
emulating mouse input. Why are you so confused?
>> > And how can you make a C&C game and have it NOT have much in common
>> > with C&C???
>>
>> Same way you can make Metal Gear AC!D, Pokemon Dash, etc, etc, etc?
> Does
>> that help?
>
> a bird is a bird whether its flying or its perched on a wire shitting
> on your car, is it not. C&C anything will still have C&C in it. THAT
> was my point. I think you missed your point the first time. But i get
> you now.
I missed the point? lol. The PSP C&C won't probably have anything in
common with C&C as far as gameplay. You're easily confused. Perhaps it's
because as soon as someone said something you thought was negative about
your PSP you foamed over? lol.
>> > Your statement makes no sense.
>>
>> Perhaps the problem is on your end, my friend?
>
> i believe we are on the same page now.
Different books.
I don't know. I tried playing a mouse intensive game with the nub once,
and it was pretty difficult, and after awhile, my mousing finger hurt.
Yeah, the PSP's stick may move, but I still think it'd be awkward to play
something as mouse-intensive as a RTS with a stick, compared to a mouse.
The mouse is capable of much faster and precise movements compared to the
stick. That's really my biggest concern with using a stick - the cursor
moves at a fixed rate, meaning it can take a while go from one side of the
screen to other. The mouse, meanwhile, will let you move as fast as you
can move the mouse.
My other concerns are about the lack of buttons. From my time with C&C,
you could assign each unit a task - patrol, guard, move, attack. You
could also group units together assign them a label (1..10) and then jump
to that unit with the press of a button.
Talking about C&C makes me pine for M.A.X., which you could either play
real time, or turn based. An updated version of M.A.X. would be awesome.
I would buy a PSP just for that.
Never did i ever say it would be "BETTER" or that i preferred a stick
to a mouse. I just dont see it as THAT big of a deal as the next guy.
You and that other guy obviously hate sticks. I'm sorry. Would you
rather have had the PSP had a track ball? IIRC all i said was that i
think the PSP will do fine. Hell i'm just excited about a C&C game. I'd
rather not think negatively about it right now. I'd like to remain
optimistic until i see a hands on review. And then i get the fanboy
label... lol I tried to brush it off as a joke, but honestly you have
the wrong guy. I will openly agree that DS has the upper hand when it
comes to any RTS or any game that constantly requires a map check, the
dual screen does have its major potentials. Heck i would imagine that
using the touch screen would be easier to select multiple troops. But
i'm not arguing that point. So i guess that makes me a fanboy by
default. I wasnt the person to cross post the original Post. It
shouldnt have been crossposted in the first place. It was about C&C
coming to PSP. And that's what i commented on.
Getting on with the subject... I know there was a C&C release either on
PSOne or PS2... has anyone here played them?? and if so... how were
the controls, i would imagine that it wouldnt change for a psp release.
--Brenden
Ok, so you just choose to ignore anything i say, that's fine.
>
> >> > I'd beg to say that its even better than an
> >> > actual analog stick. Its definitely great for driving IMO.
> >>
> >> We talking about driving? No, we are talking about using it as
mouse
> >
> >> substitute, my over reacting fanboy.
> >
> > You will refer to me as FANMAN... LOL. I'd still take the PSP's
stick
> > over a laptop nub any day... it just FEELS right.
>
> Get a clue, please.
Ignorant much?
>
> > Its obviously NOT a
> > mouse, and i never stated it to be so... nor did i say it was
better
> > than a mouse. I only said that the stick on the PSP would work
fine.
> > Your argument is WHAT?
>
> That it is the same as using a nub functionally, and those are shit
for
> emulating mouse input. Why are you so confused?
You are the one who is confused... you take my defense of the analog
stick as fanboyism of the PSP... when i'm actually just trying to stay
positive about a C&C game coming out. I'll wait for a hands on p/review
to pass judgement. I know what the analog stick does, and i personally
present that it's much better than a nub. And refuse to consider them
the "same". The beauty of life is perception.
>
> >> > And how can you make a C&C game and have it NOT have much in
common
> >> > with C&C???
> >>
> >> Same way you can make Metal Gear AC!D, Pokemon Dash, etc, etc,
etc?
> > Does
> >> that help?
> >
> > a bird is a bird whether its flying or its perched on a wire
shitting
> > on your car, is it not. C&C anything will still have C&C in it.
THAT
> > was my point. I think you missed your point the first time. But i
get
> > you now.
>
> I missed the point? lol. The PSP C&C won't probably have anything
in
> common with C&C as far as gameplay. You're easily confused. Perhaps
it's
> because as soon as someone said something you thought was negative
about
> your PSP you foamed over? lol.
"probably"... i see... however you finally make sense... its the
first time you've mentioned anything about gameplay to make your point.
congrats. If you stop trying to be so hotheaded and just discuss the
problem we would have been here long time ago. Its easy to say that the
gameplay will be nothing like past C&C's. without a mouse it HAS to be
different in some fashion. Lets just hope its not Renagade.
As for your fanboy label of me... you are all wrong... but if I wanted
to i could call you a PC fanboy... because your defending your precious
mouse... lol.. but i wont, because its such a childish game.
>
> >> > Your statement makes no sense.
> >>
> >> Perhaps the problem is on your end, my friend?
> >
> > i believe we are on the same page now.
>
> Different books.
That's unfortunate
Unfortunately i dont think that's an option, it would kind of kill the
portable-ness of the unit, don't you think so?
Web surfing will be coming to the PSP, so with that, will likely come
the pointer device needed to do an RTS game
- Richard Hutnik
USB has hosts and clients. The PSP USB is a client, not a host, so you
can't plug USB clients, like a mouse, etc, into it and have them work.
> Never did i ever say it would be "BETTER" or that i preferred a stick
> to a mouse. I just dont see it as THAT big of a deal as the next guy.
> You and that other guy obviously hate sticks. I'm sorry. Would you
> rather have had the PSP had a track ball? IIRC all i said was that i
> think the PSP will do fine. Hell i'm just excited about a C&C game. I'd
> rather not think negatively about it right now. I'd like to remain
> optimistic until i see a hands on review.
Then don't get all worked up about it. You'll need to learn to ignore such
things if you are attempting to create a fantasy land to live in.
> And then i get the fanboy
> label... lol I tried to brush it off as a joke, but honestly you have
> the wrong guy.
Doubt it.
> I will openly agree that DS has the upper hand when it
> comes to any RTS or any game that constantly requires a map check, the
> dual screen does have its major potentials. Heck i would imagine that
> using the touch screen would be easier to select multiple troops. But
> i'm not arguing that point. So i guess that makes me a fanboy by
> default. I wasnt the person to cross post the original Post. It
> shouldnt have been crossposted in the first place. It was about C&C
> coming to PSP. And that's what i commented on.
>
> Getting on with the subject... I know there was a C&C release either on
> PSOne or PS2... has anyone here played them?? and if so... how were
> the controls, i would imagine that it wouldnt change for a psp release.
PSX, yep. PSX had a mouse, too.
>> >> And, really, how much does that change the fact that you're using
> a
>> > joystick
>> >> to perform a mouse action? So, if you didn't miss the point, you
>> > would have
>> >> realized that there's no difference between the two functionally.
>> > You push left it goes left, you push right it goes right... no
> shit...
>> > but the nub doesnt actually move, its technically stationary... the
>> > stick moves. So by design they are in fact different.
>> Insiginicantly so for this discussion, my friend. The point is moot.
> Ok, so you just choose to ignore anything i say, that's fine.
Not "anything", Silly Goose! Just the parts that are moot.
THE SKY IS GREEN! If you don't argue that with me, you are admitting
defeat.
>> >> > I'd beg to say that its even better than an
>> >> > actual analog stick. Its definitely great for driving IMO.
>> >>
>> >> We talking about driving? No, we are talking about using it as
> mouse
>> >
>> >> substitute, my over reacting fanboy.
>> >
>> > You will refer to me as FANMAN... LOL. I'd still take the PSP's
> stick
>> > over a laptop nub any day... it just FEELS right.
>>
>> Get a clue, please.
>
> Ignorant much?
Yes, you are very.
>> > Its obviously NOT a
>> > mouse, and i never stated it to be so... nor did i say it was
> better
>> > than a mouse. I only said that the stick on the PSP would work
> fine.
>> > Your argument is WHAT?
>>
>> That it is the same as using a nub functionally, and those are shit
> for
>> emulating mouse input. Why are you so confused?
> You are the one who is confused... you take my defense of the analog
> stick as fanboyism of the PSP...
No one was arguing about the worth of the PSP analog stick. Get a clue.
> when i'm actually just trying to stay positive about a C&C game coming
> out.
That's great! But, why do we care?
> I'll wait for a hands on p/review to pass judgement.
Then why are you posting?
> I know what the analog stick does, and i personally
> present that it's much better than a nub. And refuse to consider them
> the "same". The beauty of life is perception.
It's the same.
>> I missed the point? lol. The PSP C&C won't probably have anything
> in
>> common with C&C as far as gameplay. You're easily confused. Perhaps
> it's
>> because as soon as someone said something you thought was negative
> about
>> your PSP you foamed over? lol.
>
> "probably"... i see... however you finally make sense... its the
> first time you've mentioned anything about gameplay to make your point.
Oh, you missed the point originally. It's been covered.
>> Different books.
>
> That's unfortunate
For me, yes. :(
> defeat.
>
My last post...
In the end we all have different opinions. You've again avoided what i
was trying to get across, most likely because you know i'm right. But
that's fine. Your sky may be green, but then again.. maybe you're just
color blind. :)
> >> >> > I'd beg to say that its even better than an
> >> >> > actual analog stick. Its definitely great for driving IMO.
> >> >>
> >> >> We talking about driving? No, we are talking about using it as
> > mouse
> >> >
> >> >> substitute, my over reacting fanboy.
> >> >
> >> > You will refer to me as FANMAN... LOL. I'd still take the PSP's
> > stick
> >> > over a laptop nub any day... it just FEELS right.
> >>
> >> Get a clue, please.
> >
> > Ignorant much?
>
> Yes, you are very.
Ignorance is bliss as they say. I'm happy to leave this conversation
with no common ground in sight.
>
> >> > Its obviously NOT a
> >> > mouse, and i never stated it to be so... nor did i say it was
> > better
> >> > than a mouse. I only said that the stick on the PSP would work
> > fine.
> >> > Your argument is WHAT?
> >>
> >> That it is the same as using a nub functionally, and those are
shit
> > for
> >> emulating mouse input. Why are you so confused?
>
> > You are the one who is confused... you take my defense of the
analog
> > stick as fanboyism of the PSP...
>
> No one was arguing about the worth of the PSP analog stick. Get a
clue.
>
> > when i'm actually just trying to stay positive about a C&C game
coming
> > out.
>
> That's great! But, why do we care?
You dont... and i dont. What gets me is that i've wasted my time with
you.
>
> > I'll wait for a hands on p/review to pass judgement.
>
> Then why are you posting?
To express an opinion that you prefer to ignore because YOU cant stand
to be wrong i guess.
>
> > I know what the analog stick does, and i personally
> > present that it's much better than a nub. And refuse to consider
them
> > the "same". The beauty of life is perception.
>
> It's the same.
again.. opinion, perception.. take your pick.
>
> >> I missed the point? lol. The PSP C&C won't probably have
anything
> > in
> >> common with C&C as far as gameplay. You're easily confused.
Perhaps
> > it's
> >> because as soon as someone said something you thought was negative
> > about
> >> your PSP you foamed over? lol.
> >
> > "probably"... i see... however you finally make sense... its the
> > first time you've mentioned anything about gameplay to make your
point.
>
> Oh, you missed the point originally. It's been covered.
>
> >> Different books.
> >
> > That's unfortunate
>
> For me, yes. :(
At this point me too. Have fun arguing with someone else.. i'm finished
here.
RnR Lesnar
"Fred Liken" <fred...@toocool4school.com> wrote in message
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Yes. This has been covered. Keep up.
You're one of the few that think this. Many people, including me,
think that the PS2 analog stick is far superior. The PSP analog stick
is more like a sliding disc than a stick and doesn't feel as precise as
a real analog stick.
RnR Lesnar
"Fred Liken" <fred...@toocool4school.com> wrote in message
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> You're a liar.
>
> RnR Lesnar
Whatever you say.
"Fred Liken" <fred...@toocool4school.com> wrote in message
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Exactly.
RnR Lesnar