Sony has NOT said PS2 will play DVD movies
Joel
a valid question. Someone mentioned on a Japanese website that nowhere in
the press release nor during the teleconference Sony claims PS2 will play
DVD movies right out of the box, contrary to what most western gaming sites
say. Sony merely said PS2 'supports the DVD format'. What does that mean
!!??? I have a feeling Sony is deliberately being moot on this point and
there could be surprises later. Again I am simply asking a question, if
anyone can find something from the OFFICIAL Sony announcement that proves me
wrong then please say so.
LoBr...@hotmail.com
the following:
Q. How do you feel about the successful Sega launch in the USA and why
is the PS2 double the price of the Dreamcast?
A. We are happy that Sega did well. This shows that the retailers have
confidence in the game systems and the consumers are interested in new
consoles. This will help us when we launch ours. We are double the
price because we offer more than double the power plus DVD movie
capabilities.
Q. Will the PS2 be able to play multi-layered DVD movies and games?
A. Yes of course dual-layer is supported!
Add to that the fact that the case itself has the DVD movie logo (they
couldn't put that on if it didn't have the capability)along with the
DTS and others, and you have a DVD movie player.
LoBridge
In article <ru177d...@corp.supernews.com>,
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Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Red Rock West
your PSX for a CD Player, do you? Just because something CAN do something,
doesn't mean that's the best use of it for you.
fgra...@my-deja.com
nice one if you don't yet have a DVD player. I don't use mine for Audio
CDs because I have a dedicated CD player which does the job better.
However, I don't have a DVD and don't think I will have one before the
PS2 comes out. Nice added benefit, even though it wouldn't be the
primary reason to buy the console.
Maybe, just maybe, Sony is now saying PS2 supports DVD movies "if" you
also buy a slot in card or something. You never know.
In article <19990916051442...@ng-fd1.aol.com>,
Samuel A. Maffei
system" (i.e. UDF). It bascially sees the files
on any DVD. Playing MPEG 2 compressed movies is
an entirely different matter.
Sam
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sections.
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MegaShaft_2000
a software one won't do. (because the DVD movie won't include a software
MPEG decoder on it)
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Jimmy
the moment but it could change since the release 4 march 2000)
see www.thegia.com
Joe Anstett
> Firstly, I am not trying to unrealistically bash Sony but I am simply asking
> a valid question. Someone mentioned on a Japanese website that nowhere in
> the press release nor during the teleconference Sony claims PS2 will play
> DVD movies right out of the box, contrary to what most western gaming sites
> say. Sony merely said PS2 'supports the DVD format'. What does that mean
> !!??? I have a feeling Sony is deliberately being moot on this point and
> there could be surprises later. Again I am simply asking a question, if
> anyone can find something from the OFFICIAL Sony announcement that proves me
> wrong then please say so.
The Playstation2 would NOT be allowed to carry the "DVD Video" logo if it did
not play DVD movies. Period. There's an organization at
http://www.dvdforum.org that oversees the licensing requirements.
Also, see the recent comments at DVD-related websites like
http://www.thedigitalbits.com and http://www.dvdresource.com.
Joe
Ken Small
Jimmy <sap...@ensm-douai.fr> wrote:
>The official sony announcement said that the PS2 couldn't play DVD films (for
>the moment but it could change since the release 4 march 2000)
>see www.thegia.com
With the official release announcement, the said it would indeed play
DVD movies-- which was opposite of the rumor that was floating around
weeks prior. Check videogamespot or next-generation for their official
releases.
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"How wrong can I be, before I am right?" --EC
Rod Ramsey
Thanks for finally having a source for this response. I've never put any
stock in the "but it's got the logo" answer because what we've seen is a
prototype which obviously is not the same thing as a shipping model.
Prototypes can have logos attached that won't actually be on the product
itself. But I'll take the word of a Sony VP. Thanks again.
In article <7rqvt1$dsg$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, LoBr...@hotmail.com says...
Roj Avon
wrote:
>Why would anyone even want to watch DVD movies off their PSX? You don't use
>your PSX for a CD Player, do you? Just because something CAN do something,
>doesn't mean that's the best use of it for you.
I think it's different for one reason. With the average CD I own
there are only a few songs that I usually listen to. I find the
interface for the CD player cumbersome and not worth the trouble.
However, when it comes to DVD I would usually just put in a movie and
let it play for 90 minutes to 2 hours. The interface isn't as
important. Still, its not sounding as good as a dedicated DVD player
but until they can record cheaply and as long as I'm going to have a
VCR anyway one box...a PSX2 that plays DVD...is better than two. I've
got enough components on top of an in my A/V cabinet now.
Roj Avon
"Sell crazy someplace else. We're all stocked up here."--Melvin Udall, "As Good As It Gets"
Children of Gallifrey
A Dallas/Fort Worth Doctor Who Viewing Club
http://www.geocities.com/area51/dimension/4814/dfwdwvs.html
Cmunkee
>your PSX for a CD Player, do you? Just because something CAN do something,
>doesn't mean that's the best use of it for you.
i dont use my psx for a cd player because i CAN afford a stereo
i WILL use my ps2 for a dvd player because i CANT afford a dvd player
Andrew Ryan Chang
>!!??? I have a feeling Sony is deliberately being moot on this point and
>there could be surprises later. Again I am simply asking a question, if
>anyone can find something from the OFFICIAL Sony announcement that proves me
>wrong then please say so.
The press release at the official site sez it supports audio CDs
and DVD-Video.
http://www.scei.co.jp/dearscei/pr_e/990913a.html
--
"We tried to design things for people of taste, but we found out there
were not too many of them. So we went for the flamingos."
-Don Featherstone, inventor of plastic pink flamingos.
terrell gibbs
wrote:
:With the official release announcement, the said it would indeed play
:DVD movies-- which was opposite of the rumor that was floating around
:weeks prior. Check videogamespot or next-generation for their official
:releases.
It's not merely a rumor--it's what Sony was telling everybody up until
recently, as reported by virtually all of the gaming press. My suspicion
is that Sony originally didn't want to include DVD video for fear of
competing with their own player sales. But when they saw the early chip
yields and realized how much they'd have to charge for the PS2, they
decided that they needed to sweeten the pot.
Pook!
>
> The official sony announcement said that the PS2 couldn't play DVD films (for
> the moment but it could change since the release 4 march 2000)
> see www.thegia.com
>
Odd, because reading the article located at
http://www.thegia.com/news/9909/n13a.html which is the link to the
Official Playstation 2 Announcement off their main page today, says
this:
"Contrary to previous reports that the PlayStation 2 would not play DVD
movies, the system's 4x DVD-ROM drive (24x CD-ROM) will play DVD music
and movies in addition to PlayStation and PlayStation 2 games."
Which article at The GIA were you looking at?
--Pook! ^_^
skyjack
my games will work on the Playstation 2 when it comes out. He then told me
his company had advised the employees to quit telling folks that Playstation
2 will be backwards compatible because that could change between now and the
actual release.
--
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Eric Olsen
sources because, sad as it is, you could have simply made up your little
"interview".
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http://eric.brinet.net
"Fear not, for I have redeemed you; I have called you by name, you are mine.
When you pass through the waters I will be with you; and through the
rivers, they shall not overwhelm you; when you walk through fire you shall
not be burned, and the flame shall not consume you." Isaiah 43:1-3
<LoBr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7rqvt1$dsg$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In a press teleconference held on 9/13, Phill Harrison, VP or R&D said
> the following:
>
> Q. How do you feel about the successful Sega launch in the USA and why
> is the PS2 double the price of the Dreamcast?
>
> A. We are happy that Sega did well. This shows that the retailers have
> confidence in the game systems and the consumers are interested in new
> consoles. This will help us when we launch ours. We are double the
> price because we offer more than double the power plus DVD movie
> capabilities.
>
> Q. Will the PS2 be able to play multi-layered DVD movies and games?
>
> A. Yes of course dual-layer is supported!
>
> Add to that the fact that the case itself has the DVD movie logo (they
> couldn't put that on if it didn't have the capability)along with the
> DTS and others, and you have a DVD movie player.
>
> LoBridge
>
>
> In article <ru177d...@corp.supernews.com>,
> "Joel" <joel...@iname.com> wrote:
> > Firstly, I am not trying to unrealistically bash Sony but I am simply
> asking
> > a valid question. Someone mentioned on a Japanese website that
> nowhere in
> > the press release nor during the teleconference Sony claims PS2 will
> play
> > DVD movies right out of the box, contrary to what most western gaming
> sites
> > say. Sony merely said PS2 'supports the DVD format'. What does that
> mean
> > !!??? I have a feeling Sony is deliberately being moot on this point
> and
> > there could be surprises later. Again I am simply asking a question,
> if
> > anyone can find something from the OFFICIAL Sony announcement that
> proves me
> > wrong then please say so.
> >
> >
>
>
drv1
psx will come later after release, but the same goes for sega, if you notice in
all the games it says mpeg sofdec which is dvd technology company.
LoBr...@hotmail.com
information on new systems. The PS2 has a PSX processor as the IO and
the company has stated from the outset that it would be backwards
compatible. It is NOT going to change.
> I just bought a Playstation at software etc. I said I was happy to
know that my games will work on the Playstation 2 when it comes out. He
then told me his company had advised the employees to quit telling
folks that Playstation 2 will be backwards compatible because that
could change between now and the actual release.
Tipstaff
"Formats supported: Audio CD, DVD-Video" That's from their offical press
release. They also have said that it will play DVD movies. Also, yes, at
the core of one of the processors is technology that is based on the current
system. That way it will be backward compatible. In a sense, they built
one of the processors around the current system, and then added other
hardware to surpass it. As for them telling people it won't be backward
compatible: It makes sense if it meant that people would probably stop
buying their current systems in wait for the next system. They said that
the system wouldn't support DVD, and that was due in part that they were
trying to sell their DVD players, and the same thing would happen: people
would wait for the PS2 to play DVD for almost 200 dollars less than a
current DVD player. Ahh.. shame on me, again. I'm talking about the PS2 in
a Dreamcast newsgroup.
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Tokyo Game show. They have a commercial in there that makes everything
plain. They show DVD movie boxes laid next to the PS2 and show in
bright blue letters "DVD Movie Playback" then they show Gameday 99 and
a few other games playing, and in the same blue letters "Backwards
compatable with all Sony Playstation software". I don't think it gets
much more plain than that...
LoBridge
LoBr...@hotmail.com
www.playstation.com and click on Japan, then select "What's New" from
the upper left portion of the screen, then you will be at the feed.
The US site is supposed to be linking to it today...
LoBridge
de...@norsystems.remove_me.co.uk
pint and whispered to the barman...
> "Supports DVD format" means "supports the DVD file
> system" (i.e. UDF). It bascially sees the files
> on any DVD. Playing MPEG 2 compressed movies is
> an entirely different matter.
>
> Sam
> > Firstly, I am not trying to unrealistically bash Sony but I am simply asking
> > a valid question. Someone mentioned on a Japanese website that nowhere in
> > the press release nor during the teleconference Sony claims PS2 will play
> > DVD movies right out of the box, contrary to what most western gaming sites
> > say. Sony merely said PS2 'supports the DVD format'. What does that mean
> > !!??? I have a feeling Sony is deliberately being moot on this point and
> > there could be surprises later. Again I am simply asking a question, if
> > anyone can find something from the OFFICIAL Sony announcement that proves me
> > wrong then please say so.
"Playstation 2 is designed to bring together movies, music and games"
TBH - I see your point but too much evidence piles up to presume
otherwise.
1. The above quote from Sony press release
2. DVD-Video supported
3. MPEG-2 decoding (I think - someone confirm??)
4. Nin said their Dolphin will play DVDs out of the box.
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terrell gibbs
for_u...@no-spam-here.studio42.com (Chris Pickett) wrote:
:On the day of release of the Dreamcast, the Sacramento Bee(a horrible rag,
:but that's all we have) had an article talking about the Dreamcast, and
:then went on to say that the new Sony Playstation would be backwards
:compatible. While definately not official by any stretch, it would not
:surprise me in the least of this Bee flunkee staff writer(kind of
:synonymous will all SacBee journalists) made the whole thing up.
No, it's official. Although most people end up playing their old games a
lot less than the expect they will. Once you've gotten used to PS2
graphics, it will be hard to go back to PS1 games. I'm finding PS games a
bit hard to look at now that I have my Dreamcast, and PS2 games will
probably look even better.
Tim Smith
GO HERE THEN!
Kromm >:-]
Eric Olsen wrote:
> > > Firstly, I am not trying to unrealistically bash Sony but I am simply
> > asking
> > > a valid question. Someone mentioned on a Japanese website that
> > nowhere in
> > > the press release nor during the teleconference Sony claims PS2 will
> > play
> > > DVD movies right out of the box, contrary to what most western gaming
> > sites
> > > say. Sony merely said PS2 'supports the DVD format'. What does that
> > mean
> > > !!??? I have a feeling Sony is deliberately being moot on this point
> > and
> > > there could be surprises later. Again I am simply asking a question,
> > if
> > > anyone can find something from the OFFICIAL Sony announcement that
> > proves me
> > > wrong then please say so.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
Mark Bradley
(terrell gibbs) wrote:
> No, it's official. Although most people end up playing their old games a
> lot less than the expect they will. Once you've gotten used to PS2
> graphics, it will be hard to go back to PS1 games. I'm finding PS games a
> bit hard to look at now that I have my Dreamcast, and PS2 games will
> probably look even better.
My favorite version of Street Fighter II to date is Hyper Fight, which is on
Street Fighter Collection 2, and I still play it on a regular basis, so that's
one PSX disc that will be spending a lot of time in my PSX2. I also have the
Williams Arcade Classics and Namco Museum collections. Robotron, Dig Dug,
Defender, Assault, Gauntlet, and Joust still kick ass.
So if I can remove my veil of graphic-tartism to play games with outdated 8 and
16 bit graphics because they provide me with lasting gameplay pleasure, I know
damn well I'll be playing a number of PSX titles with outdated 32 bit graphics
on the PSX2 for the same reason.
Ok, I've said my piece, now you can go ahead and ignore this post the way you've
ignored the many others from people who have stated they're glad they'll be able
to play PSX games on the PSX2, or that they are still enjoying games on their
Saturn/PSX/N64/Genesis/SNES etc even though they just got a Dreamcast. Because
when these people say "I like to play my favorite old games", they obviously
_mean_ "I can't stand to look at my favorite old games anymore, because the
graphics on the new systems are too good."
You just keep us posted on what we _really_ want, 'kay?
Mark
terrell gibbs
Bradley) wrote:
:My favorite version of Street Fighter II to date is Hyper Fight, which is on
:Street Fighter Collection 2, and I still play it on a regular basis, so that's
:one PSX disc that will be spending a lot of time in my PSX2. I also have the
:Williams Arcade Classics and Namco Museum collections. Robotron, Dig Dug,
:Defender, Assault, Gauntlet, and Joust still kick ass.
Agreed. Robotron was one of the reasons why I bought my PS, and I have a
friend who bought one specifically for that particular game. It is
particularly great with the MadCatz joystick because it can be set up so
that the two analog pads emulate the d-pad and the button diamond, so that
you can play Robotron the way it was meant to be played. That one game
guarantees that my PS will always be set up. I suppose that if the PS2 is
backwards compatible, *and* if it works with the MadCatz pad (which is
hardly guaranteed, since it's 3rd party), I'll save a few square inches of
shelf space. Of course, that also depends upon somebody coming up with a
way to make the PS emulator in the PS2 play PS imports. Even if somebody
comes up with a PS2 import mod, it might not work on old games, since the
main demand will be for PS2 imports (and also, Sony seems to be getting
sneakier with their anti-mod protection).
Ken Small
terrell gibbs <tgi...@bu.edu> wrote:
>wrote:
>
>:With the official release announcement, the said it would indeed play
>:DVD movies-- which was opposite of the rumor that was floating around
>:weeks prior. Check videogamespot or next-generation for their official
>:releases.
>
>It's not merely a rumor--it's what Sony was telling everybody up until
>recently, as reported by virtually all of the gaming press. My suspicion
>is that Sony originally didn't want to include DVD video for fear of
>competing with their own player sales. But when they saw the early chip
>yields and realized how much they'd have to charge for the PS2, they
>decided that they needed to sweeten the pot.
I suspect you may be right-- or at least they decided that a player and
non-player model would be too much fuss.
I called it a rumor because while widely reported, it was always
"sources indicate"-- a far cry from an official Sony position.
Trevon
and spinning of all there Ideas. Nintendo announces there releasing two
verisons of Dolphin one that plays only games and one that plays games,
CD's, and DVD's. Then Sony follows as always. Crash Racing(Mario Kart Spin
off, reason Mario Kart 64 is still the best selling N64 game in Japan),
Chocobo racing, (Mario Kart spin off bad one), Ape Escape(Banjo Spin off and
not a good one), Analogue, rumbling mechs(Rumble pack, and N64 analogue spin
off) etc.., when will Sony learn to think for themselves. Sony will come
out with a system that only plays PSX games, and PSX2 games, then in the
next year and a half they'll come out with the other one that play's DVD's.
--
Trevon
Love your enemies,
because they tell you your faults.
(Franklin, 1756)
When one fights fire with fire,
one only creates an even bigger flame.
(Trevon, 1999)
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terrell gibbs
<Tre...@Dreamsoft.com> wrote:
:Sony just copied Nintendo's ideas, there like a puppy following Nintendo,
:and spinning of all there Ideas. Nintendo announces there releasing two
:verisons of Dolphin one that plays only games and one that plays games,
:CD's, and DVD's. Then Sony follows as always.
Nintendo is an innovative company, and has often been an industry leader,
but this is kind of silly. Once you have decided to go DVD, the questions
of whether or not to include DVD-video, and whether to charge extra for
that capability, or make it an add-on or part of a higher-priced unit, are
obvious. And in fact, Sony was the first to definitively announce plans
for DVD in the first place, so if anybody is following, it is Nintendo.
Moreover, Sony has never stated that they would have two models, so they
are hardly copying Nintendo in that respect.
:Crash Racing(Mario Kart Spin
:off, reason Mario Kart 64 is still the best selling N64 game in Japan),
:Chocobo racing, (Mario Kart spin off bad one), Ape Escape(Banjo Spin off and
:not a good one), Analogue, rumbling mechs(Rumble pack, and N64 analogue spin
:off) etc.., when will Sony learn to think for themselves.
I agree that Naughty Dog's Crash Racing is clearly a Mario Kart clone, but
Naughty Dog is not Sony. I'm not a big fan of Ape Escape, but it takes a
pretty high level of bias to see it as a Banjo derivative. Analog goes
back to the Atari 5200, and various types of force feedback have been used
in arcades for years. I think even some PC controllers had it before
Nintendo, so here again Nintendo is following, not leading. Of course,
Nintendo did invent the "3-handled" controller design, but nobody seems to
be in a hurry to copy that.
:Sony will come
:out with a system that only plays PSX games, and PSX2 games, then in the
:next year and a half they'll come out with the other one that play's DVD's.
Based on recent announcements, it now looks like Sony's plan is for the
standard PS2 to play DVD videos.
Paul Irvine
>Sony just copied Nintendo's ideas, there like a puppy following Nintendo,
>and spinning of all there Ideas. Nintendo announces there releasing two
>verisons of Dolphin one that plays only games and one that plays games,
>CD's, and DVD's. Then Sony follows as always.
That's strange, this is a genuine reply to me from a very large N64 dev
company from Jan this year. Its in reply to a question I asked re the then
named N2000 being cart based..
"Cart - no :) It?s a disc-media machine. Nintendo wants to have the
mainstream back..."
Sony's plans were already well known at this point while Nintendo's were
known only to dev people. So who's following who?
Snipped lots of game comparisons...
Wake up Trevon, game styles are very hard to copyright if not impossible.
Mario Kart could quite easily be compared to Super Sprint etc etc from the
arcades (whilst not 3D the game content is VERY similar). Lots of
companies make similar games, the bigger names often take turns in
producing a product that someone else wants to beat, that does not make it
original in style tho...
>Sony will come
>out with a system that only plays PSX games, and PSX2 games, then in the
>next year and a half they'll come out with the other one that play's DVD's.
Fraid not, this 1st one plays DVD video out of the box....Official....
--
Paul Irvine
The Good, The Bad & The Ugly...That's me
Andy Borne
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> Sony just copied Nintendo's ideas,
Like using CDs and DVDs? Like backwards compatibility? Like a halfway
decent controller? Like having a game library that can be spoken of in the
plural? Like RPGs? You're full of it.
> there like a puppy following Nintendo,
That would be you.
> and spinning of all there Ideas.
You're right, Sony is coming up with all of Nintendo's ideas.
> Nintendo announces there releasing two
> verisons of Dolphin one that plays only games and one that plays games,
> CD's, and DVD's.
Nintendo announced that they are making a game machine, nothing more. That
means they won't even have a CD player.
> Then Sony follows as always.
You've got it backwards. Point up for me.
> Crash Racing(Mario Kart Spin off,
Atari Carts got the practice of the Mario Kart into common use.
> reason Mario Kart 64 is still the best selling N64 game in Japan),
Another worthless guess out of nowhere.
> Chocobo racing, (Mario Kart spin off bad one),
That would be Square, jackass. And it's a slightly different principle with
that one. Did MK64 have new characters and different types of vehicles?
> Ape Escape(Banjo Spin off and not a good one),
You've gone into all-out idiot mode, haven't you? So basically what you're
saying is that a game of any genre on Playstation is a rip off of a game of
the same genre on N64. You better watch out, you're so full of shit you'll
explode any minute.
> Analogue,
Saturn, Coleco...
> rumbling mechs(Rumble pack, and N64 analogue spin off)
Dildos, squiggle pens, woofer vests, etc.
> etc.., when will Sony learn to think for themselves.
Forty years ago. When will Nintendo?
> Sony will come out with a system that only plays PSX games, and PSX2
> games, then in the next year and a half they'll come out with the other
one
> that play's DVD's.
If NP says so, it must be true. What a dumbass. Perhaps you failed to
notice the play controls on the unit in the picture Sony released.
<sniP>
Trevon
news:muBE3.1174$u83....@news.uswest.net...
> Trevon <Tre...@Dreamsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4VwE3.1074$J21...@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > Sony just copied Nintendo's ideas,
>
> Like using CDs and DVDs? Like backwards compatibility? Like a halfway
> decent controller? Like having a game library that can be spoken of in
the
> plural? Like RPGs? You're full of it.
No like coping there games, features of there controlers, Gameboy Color is
Backwards compadible they copied that. They copied SNES large game
libary(Stupid as you bringing that up) Copied RPG from SNES, Your Full of
it.
>
> > there like a puppy following Nintendo,
>
> That would be you.
You with sony.
>
> > and spinning of all there Ideas.
>
> You're right, Sony is coming up with all of Nintendo's ideas.
The other way around
>
> > Nintendo announces there releasing two
> > verisons of Dolphin one that plays only games and one that plays games,
> > CD's, and DVD's.
>
> Nintendo announced that they are making a game machine, nothing more.
That
> means they won't even have a CD player.
Check the FAQ at ign64.com.
>
> > Then Sony follows as always.
>
> You've got it backwards. Point up for me.
Your confused.
>
> > Crash Racing(Mario Kart Spin off,
>
> Atari Carts got the practice of the Mario Kart into common use.
Pure crap, next?
>
> > reason Mario Kart 64 is still the best selling N64 game in Japan),
>
> Another worthless guess out of nowhere.
Ha, can't amit I'm right.
>
> > Chocobo racing, (Mario Kart spin off bad one),
>
> That would be Square, jackass. And it's a slightly different principle
with
> that one. Did MK64 have new characters and different types of vehicles?
Snip off no what that is?
>
> > Ape Escape(Banjo Spin off and not a good one),
>
> You've gone into all-out idiot mode, haven't you? So basically what
you're
> saying is that a game of any genre on Playstation is a rip off of a game
of
> the same genre on N64. You better watch out, you're so full of shit
you'll
> explode any minute.
They just copied the look of Banjo even though Ape still wasn't up to par.
>
> > Analogue,
>
> Saturn, Coleco...
Nintendo 64
>
> > rumbling mechs(Rumble pack, and N64 analogue spin off)
>
> Dildos, squiggle pens, woofer vests, etc.
Those aren't consoles.
>
> > etc.., when will Sony learn to think for themselves.
>
> Forty years ago. When will Nintendo?
They still haven't learned. Nintendo sets the standards.
>
> > Sony will come out with a system that only plays PSX games, and PSX2
> > games, then in the next year and a half they'll come out with the other
> one
> > that play's DVD's.
>
> If NP says so, it must be true. What a dumbass. Perhaps you failed to
> notice the play controls on the unit in the picture Sony released.
Can't see something that isn't there.
> <sniP>
>
>
Andy Borne
> Andy Borne <abo...@uswest.net> wrote in message
> news:muBE3.1174$u83....@news.uswest.net...
> > Trevon <Tre...@Dreamsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:4VwE3.1074$J21...@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > Sony just copied Nintendo's ideas,
> >
> > Like using CDs and DVDs? Like backwards compatibility? Like a halfway
> > decent controller? Like having a game library that can be spoken of in
> the
> > plural? Like RPGs? You're full of it.
>
> No like coping there games,
Leave that to the pirates, Sony doesn't even MAKE games.
> features of there controlers,
Three handles? How about the dual analog and vibration Sony invented?
> Gameboy Color is Backwards compadible they copied that.
You really are ruining this for yourself. Atari 7800 was backwards
compatible with 2600, 32X was backwards compatible with Genesis, and Windows
is backwards compatible with DOS.
> They copied SNES large game libary(Stupid as you bringing that up)
Yeah, they copied the idea of having more than one game. Trevon, crack
kills... brain cells... you'll be fine.
> Copied RPG from SNES, Your Full of it.
RPGs have been around since long before SNES.
> > > there like a puppy following Nintendo,
> >
> > That would be you.
>
> You with sony.
Clever, you blind little braindead Nintendo zombie.
> > > and spinning of all there Ideas.
> >
> > You're right, Sony is coming up with all of Nintendo's ideas.
>
> The other way around
Sure it was. God arguing point. Must I remind you? I am neither dead nor
immobile, so those tactics won't work on me.
> > > Nintendo announces there releasing two
> > > verisons of Dolphin one that plays only games and one that plays
games,
> > > CD's, and DVD's.
> >
> > Nintendo announced that they are making a game machine, nothing more.
> That
> > means they won't even have a CD player.
>
> Check the FAQ at ign64.com.
That's just great, Trevon, but they DID say they were going with nothing
more than games.
> > > Then Sony follows as always.
> >
> > You've got it backwards. Point up for me.
>
> Your confused.
You're dazed. You have chlorinated neurons. You need a head pump.
> > > Crash Racing(Mario Kart Spin off,
> >
> > Atari Carts got the practice of the Mario Kart into common use.
>
> Pure crap, next?
I see, so that's what you say when you can't even think of some idiotic
thing that's based in some small way on truth or at least your recollection
or opinion on it.
I guarantee you never played this game.
> > > reason Mario Kart 64 is still the best selling N64 game in Japan),
> >
> > Another worthless guess out of nowhere.
>
> Ha, can't amit I'm right.
If you were, I'd admit it. YOU'RE the one that can't admit jack shit.
> > > Chocobo racing, (Mario Kart spin off bad one),
> >
> > That would be Square, jackass. And it's a slightly different principle
> with
> > that one. Did MK64 have new characters and different types of vehicles?
>
> Snip off no what that is?
Yeah, that's right, give up on subject changes and go into random words.
> > > Ape Escape(Banjo Spin off and not a good one),
> >
> > You've gone into all-out idiot mode, haven't you? So basically what
> you're
> > saying is that a game of any genre on Playstation is a rip off of a game
> of
> > the same genre on N64. You better watch out, you're so full of shit
> you'll
> > explode any minute.
>
> They just copied the look of Banjo even though Ape still wasn't up to par.
You know what? You're an idiot. That's all that needs to be said. Ape
Escape wasn't nearly as babyinsh as Banjo Kazooie.
> > > Analogue,
> >
> > Saturn, Coleco...
>
> Nintendo 64
At about fifth on the list. Don't you get it?
> > > rumbling mechs(Rumble pack, and N64 analogue spin off)
> >
> > Dildos, squiggle pens, woofer vests, etc.
>
> Those aren't consoles.
As I've said before, technological crossovers are nothing impressive.
> > > etc.., when will Sony learn to think for themselves.
> >
> > Forty years ago. When will Nintendo?
>
> They still haven't learned. Nintendo sets the standards.
They set them lower than any of the competition is going. If I were you,
I'd know I was a Nintendo fanboy by now.
> > > Sony will come out with a system that only plays PSX games, and PSX2
> > > games, then in the next year and a half they'll come out with the
other
> > one
> > > that play's DVD's.
> >
> > If NP says so, it must be true. What a dumbass. Perhaps you failed to
> > notice the play controls on the unit in the picture Sony released.
>
> Can't see something that isn't there.
Now you see why I couldn't find the point in any of your messages.
Maniac78
read. But I only have a two word response: Why not?
In article <19990916051442...@ng-fd1.aol.com>,
redro...@aol.com (Red Rock West) wrote:
> Why would anyone even want to watch DVD movies off their PSX? You
don't use
> your PSX for a CD Player, do you? Just because something CAN do
something,
> doesn't mean that's the best use of it for you.
>
Norman Richards
> > > Sony just copied Nintendo's ideas,
> >
> > Like using CDs and DVDs? Like backwards compatibility? Like a
> > halfway decent controller? Like having a game library that can be
> > spoken of in > the plural? Like RPGs? You're full of it.
>
> Color is Backwards compadible they copied that. They copied SNES
> large game libary(Stupid as you bringing that up) Copied RPG from
> SNES, Your Full of it.
Ah yes - thanks for clueing us all in. I see it all so much more
clearly now. I've decided to liberate my mind and do some research
and found some other things that Sony copied directly from Nintendo:
- The use of the color grey on the console. Would sony have chosen
that if Nintendo didn't pave the way? Never!
- Secret codes in games. Nintendo invented the secret code in
games and now all the playstation copycat games have it.
- The use of the letter "N" and "O" (N)intend(o) - S(o)(n)y. Sony
reversed the letters and put them in the middle instead of
on the the ends, but it's the same thing.
- Releasing japanese and us versions of consoles with region lockouts.
Releasing first in japan and then in the us. Sony's business model
is just a copy of Nintendo's!
- Game shark is just a Nintendo game genie in disguise.
- NTSC/PAL - Nintendo did this first, then sony. Can't they come
up with their own ideas?
- Making sequels for popular games.
- Memory cards. Sure Sony put these on the market first, but only
because they got the idea from nintendo.
I could go on and on, but why? It's painfully clear that sony has
never once in it's life had an original thought. Almost every single
detail of the playstation is a direct copy of something Nintendo did
first. I can't believe I only now noticed!
___________________________________________________________________________
o...@cs.utexas.edu soli deo gloria
The Obsidian Angel
wrote:
>In article <tgibbs-1709...@med-pharm3.bu.edu>, tgi...@bu.edu
>(terrell gibbs) wrote:
>> No, it's official. Although most people end up playing their old games a
>> lot less than the expect they will. Once you've gotten used to PS2
>> graphics, it will be hard to go back to PS1 games. I'm finding PS games a
>> bit hard to look at now that I have my Dreamcast, and PS2 games will
>> probably look even better.
>
>My favorite version of Street Fighter II to date is Hyper Fight, which is on
>Street Fighter Collection 2, and I still play it on a regular basis, so that's
>one PSX disc that will be spending a lot of time in my PSX2. I also have the
>Williams Arcade Classics and Namco Museum collections. Robotron, Dig Dug,
>Defender, Assault, Gauntlet, and Joust still kick ass.
Ah yes...retro is in...no matter what platform it's on. I think Sony
is the best system out there that does that....except for PC's maybe.
IIRC, Nintendo doesn't do it and w/ Dreamcast, it's yet to be seen.
Obsidian Angel
"You're better off saying nothing....wish for a happy ending"
Nikolai Balthasar
> Leave that to the pirates, Sony doesn't even MAKE games.
Sony Computer Entertainment Europe have made plenty of games (Medievil,
Rapid Racer, Porsche Challenge... Plenty more where those came from :)) ,
and so has Sony Computer Entertainment Inc (Alundra, Ape Escape...)
> Now you see why I couldn't find the point in any of your messages.
Can you see the point in any of yours?
The thing I hate about you alt.* group idiots is that you have nothing
better to do than argue about crap like "NiNTENDo Iz DA B0MB!!, SOnY
SuXxxxx!!" What a bunch of insecure children you are. Now why don't you go
out and get lives, all of you. Nintendo, Sega and Sony have all made great
games on all their consoles - if you don't like one of the companies than
shut your mouth and don't buy their machines or games.
Now shut your mouths and lets talk about GAMES rather than your shite
rantings.
goey
Trevon <Tre...@Dreamsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AGBE3.125$Yo1...@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > Trevon <Tre...@Dreamsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:4VwE3.1074$J21...@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >
> > Like using CDs and DVDs? Like backwards compatibility? Like a halfway
> > decent controller? Like having a game library that can be spoken of in
> the
> > plural? Like RPGs? You're full of it.
>
> No like coping there games, features of there controlers, Gameboy Color is
> Backwards compadible they copied that. They copied SNES large game
> libary(Stupid as you bringing that up) Copied RPG from SNES, Your Full of
> it.
> >
> >
> > That would be you.
>
> You with sony.
> >
> >
> > You're right, Sony is coming up with all of Nintendo's ideas.
>
> The other way around
> >
> > > verisons of Dolphin one that plays only games and one that plays
games,
> > > CD's, and DVD's.
> >
> > Nintendo announced that they are making a game machine, nothing more.
> That
> > means they won't even have a CD player.
>
> Check the FAQ at ign64.com.
> >
> >
> > You've got it backwards. Point up for me.
>
> Your confused.
> >
> >
> > Atari Carts got the practice of the Mario Kart into common use.
>
> Pure crap, next?
> >
> >
> > Another worthless guess out of nowhere.
>
> Ha, can't amit I'm right.
> >
> >
> > That would be Square, jackass. And it's a slightly different principle
> with
> > that one. Did MK64 have new characters and different types of vehicles?
>
> Snip off no what that is?
> >
> >
> > You've gone into all-out idiot mode, haven't you? So basically what
> you're
> > saying is that a game of any genre on Playstation is a rip off of a game
> of
> > the same genre on N64. You better watch out, you're so full of shit
> you'll
> > explode any minute.
>
> They just copied the look of Banjo even though Ape still wasn't up to par.
> >
> >
> > Saturn, Coleco...
>
> Nintendo 64
> >
> >
> > Dildos, squiggle pens, woofer vests, etc.
>
> Those aren't consoles.
> >
> >
> > Forty years ago. When will Nintendo?
>
> They still haven't learned. Nintendo sets the standards.
> >
> > > games, then in the next year and a half they'll come out with the
other
> > one
> > > that play's DVD's.
> >
> > If NP says so, it must be true. What a dumbass. Perhaps you failed to
> > notice the play controls on the unit in the picture Sony released.
>
> Can't see something that isn't there.
> >
> >
>
>
goey
Andy Borne <abo...@uswest.net> wrote in message
news:muBE3.1174$u83....@news.uswest.net...
> Trevon <Tre...@Dreamsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4VwE3.1074$J21...@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > Sony just copied Nintendo's ideas,
>
> Like using CDs and DVDs? Like backwards compatibility? Like a halfway
> decent controller? Like having a game library that can be spoken of in
the
> plural? Like RPGs? You're full of it.
>
>
> That would be you.
>
>
> You're right, Sony is coming up with all of Nintendo's ideas.
>
> > verisons of Dolphin one that plays only games and one that plays games,
> > CD's, and DVD's.
>
> Nintendo announced that they are making a game machine, nothing more.
That
> means they won't even have a CD player.
>
>
> You've got it backwards. Point up for me.
>
>
> Atari Carts got the practice of the Mario Kart into common use.
>
>
> Another worthless guess out of nowhere.
>
>
> That would be Square, jackass. And it's a slightly different principle
with
> that one. Did MK64 have new characters and different types of vehicles?
>
>
> You've gone into all-out idiot mode, haven't you? So basically what
you're
> saying is that a game of any genre on Playstation is a rip off of a game
of
> the same genre on N64. You better watch out, you're so full of shit
you'll
> explode any minute.
>
>
> Saturn, Coleco...
>
> > rumbling mechs(Rumble pack, and N64 analogue spin off)
>
> Dildos, squiggle pens, woofer vests, etc.
>
>
> Forty years ago. When will Nintendo?
>
> > games, then in the next year and a half they'll come out with the other
> one
> > that play's DVD's.
>
> If NP says so, it must be true. What a dumbass. Perhaps you failed to
> notice the play controls on the unit in the picture Sony released.
>
>
goey
Paul Irvine <mclane...@cwcom.net> wrote in message
news:37e4bbcd...@news.cwcom.net...
> The other Day "Trevon" <Tre...@Dreamsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >and spinning of all there Ideas. Nintendo announces there releasing two
> >verisons of Dolphin one that plays only games and one that plays games,
>
> That's strange, this is a genuine reply to me from a very large N64 dev
> company from Jan this year. Its in reply to a question I asked re the then
> named N2000 being cart based..
>
> "Cart - no :) It?s a disc-media machine. Nintendo wants to have the
> mainstream back..."
>
> Sony's plans were already well known at this point while Nintendo's were
> known only to dev people. So who's following who?
>
> Snipped lots of game comparisons...
>
> Wake up Trevon, game styles are very hard to copyright if not impossible.
> Mario Kart could quite easily be compared to Super Sprint etc etc from the
> arcades (whilst not 3D the game content is VERY similar). Lots of
> companies make similar games, the bigger names often take turns in
> producing a product that someone else wants to beat, that does not make it
> original in style tho...
>
> >out with a system that only plays PSX games, and PSX2 games, then in the
> >next year and a half they'll come out with the other one that play's
DVD's.
>
Mark R.
>
> On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:19:52 -0700, Trevon <Tre...@Dreamsoft.com> wrote:
> > > > Sony just copied Nintendo's ideas,
> > >
> > > halfway decent controller? Like having a game library that can be
> > > spoken of in > the plural? Like RPGs? You're full of it.
> >
> > Color is Backwards compadible they copied that. They copied SNES
> > large game libary(Stupid as you bringing that up) Copied RPG from
> > SNES, Your Full of it.
Nintendo started the RPG genre, LOL, I have been playing RPGs since
the TRS80, this would be well before you were a wet spot in your mamma's
panties junior.
>
> Ah yes - thanks for clueing us all in. I see it all so much more
> clearly now. I've decided to liberate my mind and do some research
> and found some other things that Sony copied directly from Nintendo:
>
> - The use of the color grey on the console. Would sony have chosen
> that if Nintendo didn't pave the way? Never!
>
Maybe, but then if Dolphin ends up being black can I say they ripped
off Atari?
> - Secret codes in games. Nintendo invented the secret code in
> games and now all the playstation copycat games have it.
>
The PC has been doing this forever, Nintendo copied them
> - The use of the letter "N" and "O" (N)intend(o) - S(o)(n)y. Sony
> reversed the letters and put them in the middle instead of
> on the the ends, but it's the same thing.
yuh OK, I am pretty sure Sony existed well before Nintendo
>
> - Releasing japanese and us versions of consoles with region lockouts.
> Releasing first in japan and then in the us. Sony's business model
> is just a copy of Nintendo's!
>
Nintendo did this huh? (he asks as he starts rumaging around in his
basment looking for that spare TOW2 missle)
> - Game shark is just a Nintendo game genie in disguise.
Talk to interact about this, not SONY
>
> - NTSC/PAL - Nintendo did this first, then sony. Can't they come
> up with their own ideas?
>
NTSC/PAL are TV formats (don't think "formats" is quite the right word
though) and have nothing to do with one company copying another, any
console that has been shipped worldwide is NTSC/PAL and I doubt N was
first.
> - Making sequels for popular games.
>
(PC) Unless you wanna talk stricly consoles, can we say Pitfall 1&2 on
the 2600 boys and girls? I thought we could.
> - Memory cards. Sure Sony put these on the market first, but only
> because they got the idea from nintendo.
>
Fanboy x2
> I could go on and on, but why? It's painfully clear that sony has
> never once in it's life had an original thought. Almost every single
> detail of the playstation is a direct copy of something Nintendo did
> first. I can't believe I only now noticed!
>
Lay off the crack please. I really hope you are just a troll otherwise
I think we need to take a hard look at the intelligence of our nations
youth.
Pat Chaney
>- The use of the letter "N" and "O" (N)intend(o) - S(o)(n)y. Sony
> reversed the letters and put them in the middle instead of
> on the the ends, but it's the same thing.
Well ridiculed ;) It's only posts like this that make these threads
worthwhile.
--
Pat <p...@pchaney.demon.co.uk>
Tipstaff
This is the most F'd up post I have read in a long long time. Has anyone
told this guy that the Game Shark didn't come out for Nintendo until after
Sony's? Or that the Gameboy Color is actually not backwards compatible, but
that it adds color to older games which you need to do manually? How about
the fact the TurboGraphix had a colored handheld system first? Or that the
Game Shark was originally the Game Genie, but the name was changed after
another company bought the rights to produce them? Oh, wait, how about this
one: Sony was one of the major developers behind DVD and it's format. So,
that means that Nintendo is actually copying something Sony made. Umm.. come
to think of it, wasn't the Sega Genesis out BEFORE the SNES? Didn't NeoGeo
have a 64bit system first too? Oh, let us not forget that the analog
joystick came out for the PC first. Or how about this one: why the HELL
are we getting into a Nintendo vs. Sony debate in a DreamCast newsgroup????
Mark R. <mvr...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
news:37E344...@mediaone.net...
> Norman Richards wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:19:52 -0700, Trevon <Tre...@Dreamsoft.com> wrote:
> > > > > Sony just copied Nintendo's ideas,
> > > >
> > > > Like using CDs and DVDs? Like backwards compatibility? Like a
> > > > halfway decent controller? Like having a game library that can be
> > > > spoken of in > the plural? Like RPGs? You're full of it.
> > >
> > > No like coping there games, features of there controlers, Gameboy
> > > Color is Backwards compadible they copied that. They copied SNES
> > > large game libary(Stupid as you bringing that up) Copied RPG from
> > > SNES, Your Full of it.
>
>
> Nintendo started the RPG genre, LOL, I have been playing RPGs since
> the TRS80, this would be well before you were a wet spot in your mamma's
> panties junior.
>
>
> >
> > Ah yes - thanks for clueing us all in. I see it all so much more
> > clearly now. I've decided to liberate my mind and do some research
> > and found some other things that Sony copied directly from Nintendo:
> >
> > - The use of the color grey on the console. Would sony have chosen
> > that if Nintendo didn't pave the way? Never!
> >
>
> Maybe, but then if Dolphin ends up being black can I say they ripped
> off Atari?
>
>
> > - Secret codes in games. Nintendo invented the secret code in
> > games and now all the playstation copycat games have it.
> >
>
>
> The PC has been doing this forever, Nintendo copied them
>
>
> > - The use of the letter "N" and "O" (N)intend(o) - S(o)(n)y. Sony
> > reversed the letters and put them in the middle instead of
> > on the the ends, but it's the same thing.
>
>
Tenzhi the Ti Hsien
> >- The use of the letter "N" and "O" (N)intend(o) - S(o)(n)y. Sony
> > reversed the letters and put them in the middle instead of
> > on the the ends, but it's the same thing.
>
And has anyone noticed how they all use grey profusely in their consoles and
controllers? And how most of the buttons are ROUND (What a nifty
concept)...
Pat Chaney
>fuck off
Another well constructed and skillfully delivered argument, forcing us
all to question our own views on this matter.
Still, having shared with us the entire contents of your mind you've now
got room for two new words. At this rate you'll be a proficient public
speaker in no time at all.
Oh, and thanks for quoting 114 lines to remind us of the context in
which we should ponder over your contribution.
--
Pat <p...@pchaney.demon.co.uk>
Pat Chaney
<nothing at all>
You haven't thought of those two new words yet then?
--
Pat <p...@pchaney.demon.co.uk>
<<<<Joolz>>>>
The entire above thread has just made my entire day!!
Here I sit working rather than being down the pub watching
the Rugby. I read all this whilst waiting for a batch plot, and
it's really cheered me up. Trevon mate I'll have a pint of
what ever your drinking, your hilarious!
<<<<Joolz>>>>
ELVIS 1999
ELVIS 1999
/ Sega lawsuit?)
On Sat, 18 Sep 1999 03:51:11 -0400, "Mark R." <mvr...@mediaone.net>
wrote:
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>
> Mark R. <mvr...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > > I could go on and on, but why? It's painfully clear that sony has
> > > never once in it's life had an original thought. Almost every single
> > > detail of the playstation is a direct copy of something Nintendo did
> > > first. I can't believe I only now noticed!
>
> > Lay off the crack please. I really hope you are just a troll otherwise
> > I think we need to take a hard look at the intelligence of our nations
> > youth.
>
>
> --
> Kevin Ward
Yeah I think he was too (now that I have thought about it) but after
you argue with Doane for awhile you tend to jump pretty easy on stuff
that even looks remotely serious, oops, my bad, sorry.
Mark R.
(graciously (sp?) accepting all "jump froggy jump" comments you wanna
throw at me) :)
Norman Richards
> > [...]
> Lay off the crack please. I really hope you are just a troll otherwise
> I think we need to take a hard look at the intelligence of our nations
> youth.
You know, you guys really need to relax. Since at least 3 people
were so clueless as to misunderstand the post, I guess I should need
to explain. I was making fun of the original poster and trying to
show how exagerated his claims were by coming up with even more
exagerated and completely implausible claims. I admit I may not have
had the most clever execution of the idea, but if you are so wrapped
up in being argumentative that you can't understand such a thing, then
please do everyone a favor by stepping away from the computer for
a few minutes. Take a deep breath. Relax... Feel better now?
I mean come on - stealing "N" and "O". Even if you thought it was a
serious defense of the original poster's idea, please don't tell me
you got by that one without figuring it out...
Paul Irvine
>"goey" <h...@jfd.com> wrote:
>
><nothing at all>
>
>You haven't thought of those two new words yet then?
And cleverly he decided not to as it was my msg that he over quoted...
Tipstaff
Well Norm, my bit wasn't about you, it was about the original post. So don't
count me as one of those hounding you. I think it's funny how so many in
this group can get all excited about so little. Take the "Sony has said PS2
will play DVD movies" message. So much mud slinging back and fourth it was
like watching children fight over toy. People: if there is anyone out there
that wants to post intelligent messages by all means do so. If you don't
know what an intelligent post is? Post to the group and you'll find out.
Trust me, you will find out.
Norman Richards <o...@cs.utexas.edu> wrote in message
news:slrn7u7h6...@technophilus.dhs.org...
Andy Borne
news:nOGE3.1593$68.44326@news2-hme0...
> > Leave that to the pirates, Sony doesn't even MAKE games.
>
> Sony Computer Entertainment Europe have made plenty of games (Medievil,
> Rapid Racer, Porsche Challenge... Plenty more where those came from :)) ,
> and so has Sony Computer Entertainment Inc (Alundra, Ape Escape...)
I knew this, but they don't dedicate any departments to pumping out titles.
> > Now you see why I couldn't find the point in any of your messages.
>
> Can you see the point in any of yours?
Quite clearly. Why, can't you?
> The thing I hate about you alt.* group idiots is that you have nothing
> better to do than argue about crap like "NiNTENDo Iz DA B0MB!!, SOnY
> SuXxxxx!!" What a bunch of insecure children you are. Now why don't you
go
> out and get lives, all of you. Nintendo, Sega and Sony have all made
great
> games on all their consoles - if you don't like one of the companies than
> shut your mouth and don't buy their machines or games.
You have us confused with petty lamers. Trevon is simply an ididot fanboy,
and I am the representative voice of reason.
> Now shut your mouths and lets talk about GAMES rather than your shite
> rantings.
Damn, all my logic taken down by a shit ranting with the words "shite
rantings."
Andy Borne
All that trouble to try and disprove sarcasm. tsk tsk, I hope you realize
what an ass you look like now.
Andy Borne
> me me me
What about you?
<sniP>
Mark R.
Actually since I had the apology out over an hour before this post I
would hope you will realize I am not an ass but someone who jumped just
a little too quick and at least I realized it in a semi-reasonable
amount of time. I am only human so I would hope the occasional assing
could be forgiven, its gonna happen once in a while. Like I said in my
last post, sorry, my bad.
Later
Mark R.
Nikolai Balthasar
> I knew this, but they don't dedicate any departments to pumping out
titles.
YES-THEY-DO! :) They have departments in Japan and England which design
and translate games. Some of the SCEE development chaps actually post to
uk.games.video.playstation. Upcoming games from SCEE: "This is Football"
and "Medievil 2", upcoming games from SCEI (off the top of my head):
"Alundra 2" and "Um Jammer Lammy" Not too sure if SCEA make any games,
though. :)
> Damn, all my logic taken down by a shit ranting with the words "shite
> rantings."
I'm glad that you realise it. :)
Now shall we talk about games instead of which console is better? Only
fools would dismiss the quality of titles on another console because they
don't own/plan on owning it/them.
BanMeNow!!!
on
'PSX-2 Performance & Hardware' and you'll see according to sony's released
spec it will play DVDs.
Pook! <ima...@strangepaths.com> wrote in message
news:37E15215...@strangepaths.com...
> Jimmy wrote:
> >
> > The official sony announcement said that the PS2 couldn't play DVD films
(for
> > the moment but it could change since the release 4 march 2000)
> > see www.thegia.com
> >
>
> Odd, because reading the article located at
> http://www.thegia.com/news/9909/n13a.html which is the link to the
> Official Playstation 2 Announcement off their main page today, says
> this:
>
> "Contrary to previous reports that the PlayStation 2 would not play DVD
> movies, the system's 4x DVD-ROM drive (24x CD-ROM) will play DVD music
> and movies in addition to PlayStation and PlayStation 2 games."
>
> Which article at The GIA were you looking at?
>
> --Pook! ^_^
>
Andy Borne
> Now shall we talk about games instead of which console is better?
That's always been part of it, you've only seen the arguments in this
crosspost.
> Only fools would dismiss the quality of titles on another console because
they
> don't own/plan on owning it/them.
Exactly. Talk to Trevon about this.
goey
whatever i want where ever i want
And yes PS2 will play DVD movies without any addons etc
i am but a worm.............
Paul Irvine <mclane...@cwcom.net> wrote in message
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goey
ELVIS 1999 <ELVI...@nospam.mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:A6fjNz1R3+8PWY...@4ax.com...
> According to Atari, everyone was ripping them off (remember the Atari
> / Sega lawsuit?)
>
Paul Irvine
>I am sorry Paul but the message is now in the public domain and i will put
>whatever i want where ever i want
The thing I was pointing at was that you spat abuse at all the other
posters in this thread but merely quoted mine without the abuse.
Which is good..
>
>And yes PS2 will play DVD movies without any addons etc
>
Tis true..
>i am but a worm.............
See the doc about that, there's creams and all sorts of treatments for
that......erm....I'm told!!
goey
me for posting nothing when i changed the header.news:37e5e721...@news.cwcom.net...
Mark Bradley
<ELVI...@nospam.mindspring.com> wrote:
> For Gods sake - someone point this boy to the MAME web pages QUICKLY.
> >I also have the
> >>Williams Arcade Classics and Namco Museum collections. Robotron, Dig Dug,
> >>Defender, Assault, Gauntlet, and Joust still kick ass.
Heh. I've had MacMAME for quite a while, but until I got my ChoiceStick and was
able to hook up my PSX arcade sticks to my Mac, the best way to play Robotron
was still on my PSX. Even now, if my Mac is tied up doing other things, I can
still pop in the collection discs and play on the larger TV. I also have a
friend who comes over and plays Robotron on a regular basis, and while he's
playing I can still use my Mac. :)
Mark
terrell gibbs
:For Gods sake - someone point this boy to the MAME web pages QUICKLY.
I have MAME. But when I want to play games, I'd rather play them lounging
in my entertainment room with my PS than sitting at my computer desk.
Besides, it's really not legal to play these MAME-emulated games. I don't
see it as a big issue if the game is completely out of print, but if there
is a legal version available, then I prefer to buy it.
Trevon
--
Trevon
Love your enemies,
because they tell you your faults.
(Franklin, 1756)
When one fights fire with fire,
one only creates an even bigger flame.
(Trevon, 1999)
Reagan
How in the hell do you race on
your own tracks?
Trevon: Are you that stupid?
Reagan: Sensible answers please, I
have tried everything. Well obviously one
thing I haven't tried, but
PLEASE
help!!!!
Trevon: Using a Car? Just a guess.
Reagan: I knew I was going to get a
comment like that.
Reagan: now can I have serious
answer
Nikolai Balthasar <repl...@the.group> wrote in message
news:MgTE3.2066$68.60229@news2-hme0...
> Andy Borne <abo...@uswest.net> wrote in message
> news:VRRE3.2788$u83.1...@news.uswest.net...
> > I knew this, but they don't dedicate any departments to pumping out
> titles.
>
> YES-THEY-DO! :) They have departments in Japan and England which design
> and translate games. Some of the SCEE development chaps actually post to
> uk.games.video.playstation. Upcoming games from SCEE: "This is Football"
> and "Medievil 2", upcoming games from SCEI (off the top of my head):
> "Alundra 2" and "Um Jammer Lammy" Not too sure if SCEA make any games,
> though. :)
>
> > Damn, all my logic taken down by a shit ranting with the words "shite
> > rantings."
>
> I'm glad that you realise it. :)
>
> Now shall we talk about games instead of which console is better? Only
Trevon
--
Trevon
Love your enemies,
because they tell you your faults.
(Franklin, 1756)
When one fights fire with fire,
one only creates an even bigger flame.
(Trevon, 1999)
Reagan
How in the hell do you race on
your own tracks?
Trevon: Are you that stupid?
Reagan: Sensible answers please, I
have tried everything. Well obviously one
thing I haven't tried, but
PLEASE
help!!!!
Trevon: Using a Car? Just a guess.
Reagan: I knew I was going to get a
comment like that.
Reagan: now can I have serious
answer
Mark R. <mvr...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
news:37E3F3...@mediaone.net...
Paul Irvine
>Look at Andy get slapped around like a tramp.
Grow up for f***s sake...
At least talk to each other in a mature manner rather than sounding like a
couple of 12yr olds.....(Possibly the true story)
Tipstaff
Guys, have you lost site of the F'ing point to the message or what? This
has been going on for days now. Give it a rest. If you really want to go
after someones throat then go after the F'ing spammers that are flooding the
group. Just anything, but drop this issue. Take your own advice "Grow
up.."
Paul Irvine <mclane...@cwcom.net> wrote in message
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goey
>
Andy Borne
news:9WOF3.16193$UL5.1...@quark.idirect.com...
> Guys, have you lost site of the F'ing point to the message or what? This
> has been going on for days now. Give it a rest. If you really want to go
> after someones throat then go after the F'ing spammers that are flooding
the
> group. Just anything, but drop this issue. Take your own advice "Grow
> up.."
I will remove the crosspost next time I flame that little idiot Trevon.
Thank you and good night.
<sniP>
Eric Pobirs
at these stores seem to have remarkably active fantasy lives) has no
knowledge of the design. The elements that provide the backward
compatibility in the I/O processor are used quite heavily for other
functions in the PSX2 mode. To remove them at this late date would entail an
immense amount of work for no good purpose.
skyjack <tba...@com-tek.com> wrote in message
news:u_cE3.15019$N77.1...@typ11.nn.bcandid.com...
> I just bought a Playstation at software etc. I said I was happy to know
that
> my games will work on the Playstation 2 when it comes out. He then told me
> his company had advised the employees to quit telling folks that
Playstation
> 2 will be backwards compatible because that could change between now and
the
> actual release.
Johnny
goey wrote:
> fuck off
> Trevon <Tre...@Dreamsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AGBE3.125$Yo1...@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > Andy Borne <abo...@uswest.net> wrote in message
> > news:muBE3.1174$u83....@news.uswest.net...
> > > Trevon <Tre...@Dreamsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4VwE3.1074$J21...@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > > Sony just copied Nintendo's ideas,
> > >
> > > Like using CDs and DVDs? Like backwards compatibility? Like a halfway
> > > decent controller? Like having a game library that can be spoken of in
> > the
> > > plural? Like RPGs? You're full of it.
> >
> > No like coping there games, features of there controlers, Gameboy Color is
> > Backwards compadible they copied that. They copied SNES large game
> > libary(Stupid as you bringing that up) Copied RPG from SNES, Your Full of
> > it.
> > >
> > > > there like a puppy following Nintendo,
> > >
> > > That would be you.
> >
> > You with sony.
> > >
> > > > and spinning of all there Ideas.
> > >
> > > You're right, Sony is coming up with all of Nintendo's ideas.
> >
> > The other way around
> > >
> > > > Nintendo announces there releasing two
> > > > verisons of Dolphin one that plays only games and one that plays
> games,
> > > > CD's, and DVD's.
> > >
> > > Nintendo announced that they are making a game machine, nothing more.
> > That
> > > means they won't even have a CD player.
> >
> > Check the FAQ at ign64.com.
> > >
> > > > Then Sony follows as always.
> > >
> > > You've got it backwards. Point up for me.
> >
> > Your confused.
> > >
> > > > Crash Racing(Mario Kart Spin off,
> > >
> > > Atari Carts got the practice of the Mario Kart into common use.
> >
> > Pure crap, next?
> > >
> > > > reason Mario Kart 64 is still the best selling N64 game in Japan),
> > >
> > > Another worthless guess out of nowhere.
> >
> > Ha, can't amit I'm right.
> > >
> > > > Chocobo racing, (Mario Kart spin off bad one),
> > >
> > > That would be Square, jackass. And it's a slightly different principle
> > with
> > > that one. Did MK64 have new characters and different types of vehicles?
> >
> > Snip off no what that is?
> > >
> > > > Ape Escape(Banjo Spin off and not a good one),
> > >
> > > You've gone into all-out idiot mode, haven't you? So basically what
> > you're
> > > saying is that a game of any genre on Playstation is a rip off of a game
> > of
> > > the same genre on N64. You better watch out, you're so full of shit
> > you'll
> > > explode any minute.
> >
> > They just copied the look of Banjo even though Ape still wasn't up to par.
> > >
> > > > Analogue,
> > >
> > > Saturn, Coleco...
> >
> > Nintendo 64
> > >
> > > > rumbling mechs(Rumble pack, and N64 analogue spin off)
> > >
> > > Dildos, squiggle pens, woofer vests, etc.
> >
> > Those aren't consoles.
> > >
> > > > etc.., when will Sony learn to think for themselves.
> > >
> > > Forty years ago. When will Nintendo?
> >
> > They still haven't learned. Nintendo sets the standards.
> > >
> > > > Sony will come out with a system that only plays PSX games, and PSX2
> > > > games, then in the next year and a half they'll come out with the
> other
> > > one
> > > > that play's DVD's.
> > >
> > > If NP says so, it must be true. What a dumbass. Perhaps you failed to
> > > notice the play controls on the unit in the picture Sony released.
> >
> > Can't see something that isn't there.
> > > <sniP>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
Johnny
Kevin Ward wrote:
> Mark R. <mvr...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > > I could go on and on, but why? It's painfully clear that sony has
> > > never once in it's life had an original thought. Almost every single
> > > detail of the playstation is a direct copy of something Nintendo did
> > > first. I can't believe I only now noticed!
>
> > Lay off the crack please. I really hope you are just a troll otherwise
> > I think we need to take a hard look at the intelligence of our nations
> > youth.
>
scumbag
FUCKHEAD!!!!!!! Oh and btw my pc has a dvd drive. GET A LIFE
and SOME CASH . YOU FUCKING LOSER. AND A WHORE WHILE YOUR AT IT. I'll fuck
you both in the ASS!!!!!
Johnny wrote in message <37F0B2B7...@netdoor.com>...
Johnny
Jack Mott
yay!
Johnny <joeb...@netdoor.com> wrote in message
news:37F114C5...@netdoor.com...
Andy Borne
news:OryAq6dC$GA.234@cpmsnbbsa05...
> BIG FUCKING WOW!!!!! DVD!!!! I already got a fucking vcr.
Good for you. Go on watching scratchy, barely stereo, easily damaged tapes,
while the rest of us save up for DVDs and big screen TVs.
And his post didn't address DVD in any way.
> FUCKHEAD!!!!!!!
PKB
> Oh and btw my pc has a dvd drive.
Good for it.
> GET A LIFE
Get a clue.
> and SOME CASH.
Who's going to get a PS2 with no money?
> YOU FUCKING LOSER.
Another PKB.
> AND A WHORE WHILE YOUR AT IT.
And a vocabulary while you're at it.
> I'll fuck you both in the ASS!!!!!
Take your shit to alt.sex.poultry.
<sniP>
Julie Brandon
>barely stereo
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'd agree with the rest of it; but this -- utter BS. *8-)
VHS Hi-Fi stereo sound is widely considered to be unmatched
by any other non-digital recordable medium. Leave Hi-Fi
sound alone!
Ta-ra,
Julie.
--
Disclaimer: this post is just my insignificant mumblings, so don't believe
a word of it -- relax, and take it all with a pinch of salt. Any relevance
to real life is purely co-incidental, and is statistically very unlikely.
Gluten free. Requires 4xAA batteries (not included). May contain peanuts.
jmp
Trevon
places, tell you get a job and can pay for one(This is a medaphor)
--
Trevon
Love your enemies,
because they tell you your faults.
(Franklin, 1756)
When one fights fire with fire,
one only creates a bigger flame.
(Trevon, 1999)
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