Tekken 2 for Saturn?? Probable.
Lei Wulong
> I just heard from a person who said he heard some stuff from inside Sega
>that Tekken 2 will be coming to the Saturn this Christmas!!! Also Ridge
>Racer 3 will be a Saturn exclusive. I don't really go for Ridge Racer 3
>but Saturn owners should like Tekken 2. I bet Tekken 2 will a perfect
>port.
You've got to be joking. TK2 coming out for the saturn has about as
much of a chance as VF2 comingout for the PSX. And don't make me
laugh about RR3. I don't know if it even exists yet, but if it does
the saturn couldn't handle it anyways.
Sleet
Actually my friend bought a PSX because the dumbass store clerk told him
that VF2 was already out for it. Hehe. Anyway Lei is right. It's
pretty much a fact. Namco works for Sony, and they make Tekken 2 and
Ridge Racer. So whoever told you this was abviously full of shit. The
only good games that the Saturn will ever have that Sony won't will be
Daytona and Sega Rally, so just but a Playstation and save the rest of
the money for games.
Sleet
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Pmorgan811
sony and sega with all there major stuff. they both know that they can
make money by developing for other platforms. this is where sony and sega
really make there money, not on hardware but software.
the advantage to having either system will be the time frame in which
these titles will be available.
sony will probably get some form of VF by the next holiday season, as sega
is starting to see ports of some of sony's stuff already.
having exclusive titles just does not make good business sense anymore,
because you just cannot ignore the installed base of other viable systems.
some titles will remain exclusive, but they will be the exception and not
the rule.
Robert Colossus Jones
wrote:
> Michael Arguello <histo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > I just heard from a person who said he heard some stuff from inside Sega
> >that Tekken 2 will be coming to the Saturn this Christmas!!! Also Ridge
> >Racer 3 will be a Saturn exclusive. I don't really go for Ridge Racer 3
> >but Saturn owners should like Tekken 2. I bet Tekken 2 will a perfect
> >port.
>
> You've got to be joking. TK2 coming out for the saturn has about as
> much of a chance as VF2 comingout for the PSX. And don't make me
> laugh about RR3. I don't know if it even exists yet, but if it does
> the saturn couldn't handle it anyways.
That's not necessarily true, especially now that psynosis(?) is producing
games for the saturn although the PSX still has its window of
exclusivity. I mean Tekken is a popular series and it would make Namco a
ton of money to make a Saturn Translation (especially since by that time
there will be over 4 mil. Saturn's in the world). So, I wouldn't doubt
it. Namco is not Sony, as AM2 is Sega, so Namco could port its games if
it wants to and may be doing so because psynosis was allowed to do so.
It's all about making money and Namco isn't the hardware provider, they
are the software provider.
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Legion
>that VF2 was already out for it. Hehe. Anyway Lei is right. It's
>pretty much a fact. Namco works for Sony, and they make Tekken 2 and
>Ridge Racer. So whoever told you this was abviously full of shit. The
>only good games that the Saturn will ever have that Sony won't will be
>Daytona and Sega Rally, so just but a Playstation and save the rest of
>the money for games.
Uh, I believe there are already Namco games slated for release on
the Saturn... Namco works for Namco...
Michael Arguello
any racing game Namco or Sony has to offer.
terrell gibbs
:You've got to be joking. TK2 coming out for the saturn has about as
:much of a chance as VF2 comingout for the PSX.
Not really. Namco is not owned by Sony; they are free to develop for any
platform they choose. In the past, they have seemed to be reluctant to go
head-to-head with Sega, perhaps because their games are widely perceived,
at least by Saturn owners, as second-rate copies of Sega's. But that seems
to be changing. Soul Edge is a very nice title, and while somewhat
derivative of the VF series, Sega doesn't really have anything to match
it. On the other hand, Namco gets more "bang for the buck" developing for
the PS, because they have used that platform for their arcade games, so
they can kill two birds with one stone. Thus, I expect that the PS will
continue to get Namco's games first, unless Namco decides to switch to a
different arcade platform.
Magus
>Michael Arguello <histo...@aol.com> wrote:
>> I just heard from a person who said he heard some stuff from inside Sega
>>that Tekken 2 will be coming to the Saturn this Christmas!!! Also Ridge
>>Racer 3 will be a Saturn exclusive. I don't really go for Ridge Racer 3
>>but Saturn owners should like Tekken 2. I bet Tekken 2 will a perfect
>>port.
>You've got to be joking. TK2 coming out for the saturn has about as
>much of a chance as VF2 comingout for the PSX. And don't make me
>laugh about RR3. I don't know if it even exists yet, but if it does
>the saturn couldn't handle it anyways.
Well, it can happen. Remember, Namco can make games for Saturn if they
want to, since they are a 3rd party developer. Besides, Sony can't
force them what to do. As for VF2, Sega made that game. So, it'll
never appear on PSX since Sega owns the competing system. Namco, on
the other hand, are just 3rd party developers.
The supreme and almighty,
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writes:
>Michael Arguello <histo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I just heard from a person who said he heard some stuff from inside
Sega
>>that Tekken 2 will be coming to the Saturn this Christmas!!! Also
Ridge
>>Racer 3 will be a Saturn exclusive. I don't really go for Ridge Racer
3
>>but Saturn owners should like Tekken 2. I bet Tekken 2 will a perfect
>>port.
>
>You've got to be joking. TK2 coming out for the saturn has about as
>much of a chance as VF2 comingout for the PSX. And don't make me
>laugh about RR3. I don't know if it even exists yet, but if it does
>the saturn couldn't handle it anyways.
>
I wouldn't be sure. The difference is that NAMCO ISN't SONY. NAMCO can
do WHATEVER for WHOEVER they want. Whereas Sega, might not make VF2 for
PSX (since VF2 is a Sega 1st party game), Tekken 2 is a 3rd Party PSX
game which for all practical purposes could be made on Saturn and Sony
would have no controll over it. Sony needs Namco more than Namco needs
Sony... And I heard about the Tekken 2 story and RR3 as well (and not
from usenets... it may or may not be true, But is this Saturn SGl 2.o
is as good as the hype, I wouldn't doubt a very good Tekken 2 port on
saturn.. Heck, f I was to tell you Wipeout was comming to saturn in
November you wouldn't have believed my, and that was a Sony Psynostic
game!!
MASHOOD KHAN
On Tue, 23 Apr 1996, Lei Wulong wrote:
> Michael Arguello <histo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > I just heard from a person who said he heard some stuff from inside Sega
> >that Tekken 2 will be coming to the Saturn this Christmas!!! Also Ridge
> >Racer 3 will be a Saturn exclusive. I don't really go for Ridge Racer 3
> >but Saturn owners should like Tekken 2. I bet Tekken 2 will a perfect
> >port.
>
> You've got to be joking. TK2 coming out for the saturn has about as
> much of a chance as VF2 comingout for the PSX. And don't make me
> laugh about RR3. I don't know if it even exists yet, but if it does
> the saturn couldn't handle it anyways.
>
>
> A bit biased aren't we? Anyway about TK2 coming to Saturn, a couple of
months ago I would have been just as sceptical, but with WipeOut on the
Saturn and Destruction Derby and Discworld coming soon it wouldn't
suprise me. After all Namco do have a license to develop on the Saturn and
the Saturn has a huge user base in Japan, So you never know. One thing I
would like to say though is if people put up rumours they should reveal
their sources. "I've heard from a bloke in Sega" doesn't quite cut it.
Mash
Trust Nobody
>
> whats going to happen is that you will see a lot of cross development by
> sony and sega with all there major stuff.
sony to Sega; yes.
Sega to Sony; Not in your life time.
> these titles will be available.
> sony will probably get some form of VF by the next holiday season,
It would be great to see VF2 on the PSX; so we can all go out and say "VF2
sucks on the PSX? PSX must suck then....."
> as sega
> is starting to see ports of some of sony's stuff already.
As I said, it is a streictly one way deal; Sony to Sega, but not the
other way around. Sony must have so little confidence in its own machine.
Esben Lund
In article <4llt73$3...@tribune.concentric.net>, Michael Arguello <histo...@aol.com> writes:
> You are forgetting about Daytona Remix and Manx TT. Those blow away
> any racing game Namco or Sony has to offer.
>
I don't know about Daytona Remix, but Manx TT does by no means
blow away anything :)
Sega Rally has better controls and is far more enjoyable.
Manx TT is fun the first time, after that it gets frustrating.
On top of that it isn't any graphical improvement compared
to Rally.
Esben
Murray Pawlett
>> as sega
>> is starting to see ports of some of sony's stuff already.
>
> As I said, it is a streictly one way deal; Sony to Sega, but not the
> other way around. Sony must have so little confidence in its own machine.
Or maybe Sony has TOO MUCH confidence in its own machine (they
probably think that ported PSX titles to the Saturn won't hurt the
PSX).
-Murray Pawlett mpaw...@atcon.com
KanoX359
>whats going to happen is that you will see a lot of cross development by
>sony and sega with all there major stuff. they both know that they can
>make money by developing for other platforms. this is where sony and sega
>really make there money, not on hardware but software.
>the advantage to having either system will be the time frame in which
>these titles will be available.
>sony will probably get some form of VF by the next holiday season, as sega
>is starting to see ports of some of sony's stuff already.
>having exclusive titles just does not make good business sense anymore,
>because you just cannot ignore the installed base of other viable systems.
>some titles will remain exclusive, but they will be the exception and not
>the rule.
Sega *is not* getting any Sony games and Sony *is not* getting Sega
games. Sega is getting games from *third party* developers, *not*
Sony. Since VF is made by Sega you'll never see it on the PSX. Just
like you'll never see Mario on the Saturn.
Don't even bring up Psygnosis. The recently changed their name from
Sony Interactive Entertainment back to Psygnosis. NEXT Generation is
saying that all signs are pointing to Psygnosis leaving the Sony
family. If Psygnosis was Sony then both the SNES and Genesis got Sony
games because Psygnosis programmed most of Toy Story for both systems.
Michael J Headrick
> Michael Arguello <histo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > I just heard from a person who said he heard some stuff from inside Sega
> >that Tekken 2 will be coming to the Saturn this Christmas!!! Also Ridge
> >Racer 3 will be a Saturn exclusive. I don't really go for Ridge Racer 3
> >but Saturn owners should like Tekken 2. I bet Tekken 2 will a perfect
> >port.
>
> You've got to be joking. TK2 coming out for the saturn has about as
> much of a chance as VF2 comingout for the PSX. And don't make me
> laugh about RR3. I don't know if it even exists yet, but if it does
> the saturn couldn't handle it anyways.
RR3 for the Saturn? Please don't waste your time. RR's shitty gameplay
can stay on the Fluffstation for all I care. Tekken 2 to be released for
the Saturn during VF3's probable release time? Talk about terrible
rumors...
John Mooney
> As I said, it is a streictly one way deal; Sony to Sega, but not the
> other way around. Sony must have so little confidence in its own >
machine.
How does spreading a few of its games around show that Sony
doesn't have any confidence? I think it's the other way around. Sony is
confident enough with its own hardware that it can earn some extra bucks
by porting a few of the better games to the Saturn. Sega has to hoard
every good title it has to compete. BTW, after throwing all it's amazing
stuff at the PSX what is Sega gunna have to put up against the N64? Sony
looks to have an amazing lineup coming for that period of time. What has
Sega got?
Magus
>Pmorgan811 wrote:
>>
>> whats going to happen is that you will see a lot of cross development by
>> sony and sega with all there major stuff.
> sony to Sega; yes.
> Sega to Sony; Not in your life time.
>> these titles will be available.
>> sony will probably get some form of VF by the next holiday season,
> It would be great to see VF2 on the PSX; so we can all go out and say "VF2
> sucks on the PSX? PSX must suck then....."
>> as sega
>> is starting to see ports of some of sony's stuff already.
> As I said, it is a streictly one way deal; Sony to Sega, but not the
> other way around. Sony must have so little confidence in its own machine.
Ahem. You got it all wrong. Sony isn't exactly happy about their games
coming to Saturn. You see, the games are mostly 3rd party games. Since
Psygnosis is now independent, they will make their games for every
system that are worthy are will sell big. Also, Namco isn't an
in-house developer of Sony, so they can do whatever they want.
SirRichard
Tekken 2 on Saturn? Well I don't know, but Sega would probably not want
it to be released too close to a possible VF3 port. Sony may not be
willing to give this game up, since it is on System 11. Namco could
probably kill the System 11 deal by doing that.
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jmo...@postoffice.ptd.net (John Mooney) wrote:
>Trust Nobody says:
>> As I said, it is a streictly one way deal; Sony to Sega, but not the
>> other way around. Sony must have so little confidence in its own >
>machine.
> How does spreading a few of its games around show that Sony
>doesn't have any confidence? I think it's the other way around. Sony is
>confident enough with its own hardware that it can earn some extra bucks
>by porting a few of the better games to the Saturn. Sega has to hoard
>every good title it has to compete. BTW, after throwing all it's amazing
>stuff at the PSX what is Sega gunna have to put up against the N64? Sony
>looks to have an amazing lineup coming for that period of time. What has
>Sega got?
Jeez, I do wish these system-loyalists would crawl off to a far off
cave and die a painfull death somewhere. They are really social
rejects!
First off, I want to say I'm no system loyalists. I am a little bias I
admit, but who isn't? As long as I'm not as crazy as some people (like
the guy above), I'm fine.
OK, you wanna know why a bunch of PSX games are coming to Saturn? Make
a guess. Sony is confident that it'll win no matter if all their games
are coming to Saturn or not? Bzzzzzz! Wrong! Sony is planning to ditch
the PSX? Bzzzzzz! A far cry from the truth! Saturn sucks and it needs
PSX games to survive? Bzzzzz! Strike 3 and you're out of here!
OK, here is why. PSYGNOSIS AND NAMCO ARE NOT SONY'S IN-HOUSE
DEVELOPERS! Yup. That's true. They are not like Sega's AM team. In
fact, they don't belong to Sony! They are 3RD PARTY DEVELOPERS! And,
3rd party developers are only interested in making MOOLAH, $, DINERO!
They aren't some brain-washed idiots (well, maybe they are idiots ^_^)
only interested in standing by their system. No way! In this industry,
everyone is in it for the money. And guess what? If they release their
hits on Saturn, they'll make even more $$$$$$ <cachink!>! Get the big
picture, buddy?
So, your suggestion that Saturn needs everything it can possibly get
is absolutely PATHETIC and utterly false! Saturn has lots of games in
development that will go head to head with upcoming PSX and N64 games.
Hell, Nights looks like it will be giving Mario 64 a run for its
money! As the stream of time continues to flow, you'll see Saturn,
PSX, and N64 games continue to improve and flourish! And no, Saturn
isn't just going to die, and neither is the PSX. Both are wonderfull
machines (bows before the two great systems...) and will be giving the
N64 a pretty hard time! Oh yeah, while I am at this, SCREW THE PEOPLE
WHO THINKS THE PSX POWERS ARE TAPPED! I mean, the system hasn't been
out for a year yet, and people are saying its powers are almost
maxxed?!! This is crazy!
And also, you're probably wondering why all the great Sega arcade hits
aren't coming to PSX? Well, the Sega AM teams are Sega's own
developers! Unlike Psygnosis and Namco, who are indepent from Sony.
Sure, Sega could release some old (but good) games on the PSX to get
some more cash...who wouldn't? As for the rumor of VF Remix coming out
for PSX...sure it can happen! VF Remix is old for the Saturn and there
are countless of other games better than that one (VF 2 comes to
mind), so it's pretty much useless to Sega now. Also, it would be
really great to see an improved VF Remix for the PSX with light source
shading! Wouldn't that be great! It would to me, at least. Also, if it
does come out, you PSX-only lovers should hold back from flaming the
Saturn's VF Remix which was released much earlier. Just a little look
into the future.
So there, quite your foolishness and lets get back and play some
games!
Happy Gaming!
The supreme and almighty,
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Michael Arguello <histo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> You are forgetting about Daytona Remix and Manx TT. Those blow away
> any racing game Namco or Sony has to offer.
What are you psychic??? Where have you seen Daytona Remix?
It's highly unlikely that any of the "big" Namco titles will find their
way to the Saturn...particularly those developed on the System 11 (PSX)
this would include Tekken, Tekken 2, Soul Edge, and the new basketball
game.
You also have to take into consideration that the the Saturn version
would certainly be inferior to the Playstation version.
Peter Ronaszeki
>Michael Arguello <histo...@aol.com> wrote:
>Also Ridge Racer 3 will be a Saturn exclusive.
WOW! Scoop alert from aol.com!!
That's it I'm giving away my PlayStation *now*.
But did you also know that Super Mario World 5 will be a Jaguar
exclusive?! And Sega have just scrapped their planned VF3 arcade project
to work instead on a Virtual Boy exclusive version!! I can't wait!
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> That's not necessarily true, especially now that psynosis(?) is producing
> games for the saturn although the PSX still has its window of
> exclusivity. I mean Tekken is a popular series and it would make Namco a
> ton of money to make a Saturn Translation (especially since by that time
> there will be over 4 mil. Saturn's in the world). So, I wouldn't doubt
> it. Namco is not Sony, as AM2 is Sega, so Namco could port its games if
> it wants to and may be doing so because psynosis was allowed to do so.
> It's all about making money and Namco isn't the hardware provider, they
> are the software provider.
System 11.
Nuff said.
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Brandon Fisher
Trust Nobody wrote:
>
> Pmorgan811 wrote:
> >
> > whats going to happen is that you will see a lot of cross development by
> > sony and sega with all there major stuff.
>
> sony to Sega; yes.
> Sega to Sony; Not in your life time.
>
> > these titles will be available.
> > sony will probably get some form of VF by the next holiday season,
>
> It would be great to see VF2 on the PSX; so we can all go out and say "VF2
> sucks on the PSX? PSX must suck then....."
>
> > as sega
> > is starting to see ports of some of sony's stuff already.
>
> other way around. Sony must have so little confidence in its own machine.
Just in case anyone is reading this who is new to this group - any comments made
by this Trust Nobody thing can be ignored. Any information supplied by this thing has
been pulled out of it's ass. You will not find any useful discussion, just system
bashing because he is jealous that he doesn't have a PSX, so he tries to prove to
himself that he made the right choice and got a Saturn. You will never see any proof or
sources mentioned in his post. His only source is himself, which is worthless. Most of
his posts do not even make (the one above is a good example). I'd think that if the
Saturn was as good as he says it is, he should be glued to his tv playing it - and out
of this group.
Oh, by the way, a press release yesterday (it's up in www.next-generation.com)
states that a Sega owned company (Segasoft) IS developing games for the Playstation.
^Vertigo^
On Fri, 26 Apr 1996 19:48:47 -0400, Brandon Fisher <bjfi...@ao.net>
wrote:
> Just in case anyone is reading this who is new to this group - any comments made
>by this Trust Nobody thing can be ignored. Any information supplied by this thing has
>been pulled out of it's ass. You will not find any useful discussion, just system
>bashing because he is jealous that he doesn't have a PSX, so he tries to prove to
>himself that he made the right choice and got a Saturn. You will never see any proof or
>sources mentioned in his post. His only source is himself, which is worthless. Most of
>his posts do not even make (the one above is a good example). I'd think that if the
>Saturn was as good as he says it is, he should be glued to his tv playing it - and out
>of this group.
> Oh, by the way, a press release yesterday (it's up in www.next-generation.com)
>states that a Sega owned company (Segasoft) IS developing games for the Playstation.
>
trustnobody himself said he dosent even have saturn,all he has is a
3do and a piece of crap jaguar
Ken Sjoquist
In article <4lpfnd$6...@guyana.it.earthlink.net>, vs...@earthlink.net
(Magus) wrote:
<SNIP!>
>
> OK, here is why. PSYGNOSIS AND NAMCO ARE NOT SONY'S IN-HOUSE
> DEVELOPERS! Yup. That's true. They are not like Sega's AM team. In
> fact, they don't belong to Sony! They are 3RD PARTY DEVELOPERS!
<SNIP!>
>
> So there, quite your foolishness and lets get back and play some
> games!
>
> Happy Gaming!
>
> The supreme and almighty,
> MAGUS
Errrrr, how do I say this? Psygnosis is a subsidiary of Sony. They are not
exactly like the AM divisions of Sega, but they are not 3rd party. Namco
is a different story...
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In article <DqEEL...@capcon.net>, Trust Nobody <"#5"@53.%#$> wrote:
> Pmorgan811 wrote:
> >
> > whats going to happen is that you will see a lot of cross development by
> > sony and sega with all there major stuff.
>
> sony to Sega; yes.
> Sega to Sony; Not in your life time.
>
> > these titles will be available.
> > sony will probably get some form of VF by the next holiday season,
>
> It would be great to see VF2 on the PSX; so we can all go out and say "VF2
> sucks on the PSX? PSX must suck then....."
>
> > as sega
> > is starting to see ports of some of sony's stuff already.
>
> As I said, it is a streictly one way deal; Sony to Sega, but not the
> other way around. Sony must have so little confidence in its own machine.
Nobody, I've got a VF2 floater for ya. It's in my toilet. Gobble up pal,
we wouldn't want you to run low on what you're slinging....
Psy-Q
> Oh, by the way, a press release yesterday (it's up in
>www.next-generation.com) states that a Sega owned company (Segasoft) IS
>developing games for the Playstation.
Yeah, but they're a completely independent company. They can't port VF2,
Sega Rally or any other big name Sega game to the PSX.
Nobody Classic
^Vertigo^ wrote:
> trustnobody himself said he dosent even have saturn,all he has is a
> 3do and a piece of crap jaguar
One of several Trust Nobody imposter said that.
I have a Saturn, and plays my friend's PSX several times a week.
Rick Florey
No...@ce.com (^Vertigo^) wrote:
>On Fri, 26 Apr 1996 19:48:47 -0400, Brandon Fisher <bjfi...@ao.net>
>wrote:
>> Just in case anyone is reading this who is new to this group - any comments made
>>by this Trust Nobody thing can be ignored. Any information supplied by this thing has
>>been pulled out of it's ass. You will not find any useful discussion, just system
>>bashing because he is jealous that he doesn't have a PSX, so he tries to prove to
>>himself that he made the right choice and got a Saturn. You will never see any proof or
>>sources mentioned in his post. His only source is himself, which is worthless. Most of
>>his posts do not even make (the one above is a good example). I'd think that if the
>>Saturn was as good as he says it is, he should be glued to his tv playing it - and out
>>of this group.
>> Oh, by the way, a press release yesterday (it's up in www.next-generation.com)
>>states that a Sega owned company (Segasoft) IS developing games for the Playstation.
>>
>trustnobody himself said he dosent even have saturn,all he has is a
>3do and a piece of crap jaguar
Just thought I'd mention that Namco is looking at developing for the
Saturn, Psygnosis IS developing for the Saturn, and Square has a SGL
2.0, which leads most to believe that they are actually considering
working on Saturn games. BTW, SegaSoft is independent of Sega and the
Saturn (Although Sega owns 40% of their stock) and nothing from Sega
itself will show up on the PS via SegaSoft. SegaSoft is also working
for the Saturn (of course.)
Alcuin
In article <4lmfa8$g...@argentina.it.earthlink.net>, vs...@earthlink.com (Magus) writes:
>
> Well, it can happen. Remember, Namco can make games for Saturn if they
> want to, since they are a 3rd party developer. Besides, Sony can't
> force them what to do. As for VF2, Sega made that game. So, it'll
> never appear on PSX since Sega owns the competing system. Namco, on
> the other hand, are just 3rd party developers.
>
Okay -- it could happen. Theoretically. Considering system exclusivity
contracts, System 11, and also the fact that switching to a biggest rival would
definately not please the company supporting and offering support for the
previous two, let's just take it as granted that it won't happen, at least not
with Sega.
KanoX359
ke...@pdx.csnw.com (Ken Sjoquist) wrote:
>In article <4lpfnd$6...@guyana.it.earthlink.net>, vs...@earthlink.net
>(Magus) wrote:
><SNIP!>
>>
>> OK, here is why. PSYGNOSIS AND NAMCO ARE NOT SONY'S IN-HOUSE
>> DEVELOPERS! Yup. That's true. They are not like Sega's AM team. In
>> fact, they don't belong to Sony! They are 3RD PARTY DEVELOPERS!
><SNIP!>
>>
>> So there, quite your foolishness and lets get back and play some
>> games!
>>
>> Happy Gaming!
>>
>> The supreme and almighty,
>> MAGUS
>Errrrr, how do I say this? Psygnosis is a subsidiary of Sony. They are not
>exactly like the AM divisions of Sega, but they are not 3rd party. Namco
>is a different story...
>--
>Ken Sjoquist, Systems Engineer ke...@pdx.csnw.com
>Computer Stores Northwest ksjo...@mail.zephyr.net
>Marketing Professional's Motto:
>"We don't screw the customer. We just hold them down so that sales can screw them."
Then why did Psygnosis program most of Toy Story for the SNES and
Genesis. And WHY did they change their name from Sony Interactive
Entertainment BACK to Psygnosis?
Rune
In article <4lhk1o$e...@news.net-connect.net>, eat...@usl.edu (Lei Wulong) wrote:
>Michael Arguello <histo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I just heard from a person who said he heard some stuff from inside Sega
>>that Tekken 2 will be coming to the Saturn this Christmas!!! Also Ridge
>>Racer 3 will be a Saturn exclusive. I don't really go for Ridge Racer 3
>>but Saturn owners should like Tekken 2. I bet Tekken 2 will a perfect
>>port.
>
>You've got to be joking. TK2 coming out for the saturn has about as
>much of a chance as VF2 comingout for the PSX. And don't make me
>laugh about RR3. I don't know if it even exists yet, but if it does
>the saturn couldn't handle it anyways.
>
Sony's. And with RR3... VF3 will come for the Saturn(won't looks as good) so I
don't see why RR3 can't be made
-Rune
Rune's World http://www.connect.ab.ca/~rune/
Nobody Classic
Michael Arguello wrote:
>
> Just wondering but why are there so many clones of Trust Nobody?? Could
> there be some sort of cult made up of Trust Nobody clones. Who can save us
> now??? Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!! :(
Nobody Classic=Real Nobody(ex Trust Nobody).
BTW, there are imposters using Nobody Classic, too. So you better watch
out.
Nobody Classic
KanoX359 wrote:
> Then why did Psygnosis program most of Toy Story for the SNES and
> Genesis. And WHY did they change their name from Sony Interactive
> Entertainment BACK to Psygnosis?
Because Toy Story project began before Sony purchased Psygnosis.
Rick Florey
mcco...@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Alcuin) wrote:
>In article <4lmfa8$g...@argentina.it.earthlink.net>, vs...@earthlink.com (Magus) writes:
>>
>> Well, it can happen. Remember, Namco can make games for Saturn if they
>> want to, since they are a 3rd party developer. Besides, Sony can't
>> force them what to do. As for VF2, Sega made that game. So, it'll
>> never appear on PSX since Sega owns the competing system. Namco, on
>> the other hand, are just 3rd party developers.
>>
>Okay -- it could happen. Theoretically. Considering system exclusivity
>contracts, System 11, and also the fact that switching to a biggest rival would
>definately not please the company supporting and offering support for the
>previous two, let's just take it as granted that it won't happen, at least not
>with Sega.
Namco's deal with Sony doesn't include exclusivity, the Saturn could
do a good mimicry of System 11, and since Tekken is pretty much the
PS's only serious competition (by and large) for VF and the fact that
Namco is making the bulk of the PS's killer apps, Sony would be
hard-pressed to try to force them to do anything. Namco is an 800
pound gorilla in PS's jungle, and it'll do whatever the heck it wants.
Alexander Cheyney
I hate to point this out, but Sony has NOTHING directly to do with a possible
release of Tekken 2 (Or Tekken "1" for that matter) to for the Saturn. The game was
created by NAMCO. Namco is currently doing games exclusively for the PSX (for
32 Bit platforms) and uses the PSX's System 11 technology for their arcade games.
therefore I don't see how a potential "perfect" Saturn" translation would be likely.
I have heard theat Capcom has distribution rights to Tekken 2 in the US (for the PSX),
but have not been able to verify this. I took the plunge and bought the Japanese import
of this game and I am not disappointed!
mpaw...@atcon.com (Murray Pawlett) wrote:
>Trust Nobody <"#5"@53.%#$> wrote:
>
>>> as sega
>>> is starting to see ports of some of sony's stuff already.
>>
>> As I said, it is a streictly one way deal; Sony to Sega, but not the
>> other way around. Sony must have so little confidence in its own machine.
>
Mike Khim
NAMCO and SONY are not in good relationship as they were used to be when SONY released PSX.....
Chern Ann
Mike Khim (mik...@ibm.net) wrote:
: NAMCO and SONY are not in good relationship as they were used to be when SONY released PSX.....
We wait with bated breath for you to quote your source.
Regards.
Ken Sjoquist
In article <3183CC...@mars.planet>, Nobody Classic
<Nob...@mars.planet> wrote:
I would add that the start of the Toy Story project more than likely
preceded the release of the Playstation itself by a more than trivial
margin. You have to sell the markets that are available to you.
I honestly don't remember Psygnosis ever changing their name TO Sony
Interactive Entertainment. I do remember that an old division of Sony
software development (mostly for PCs) put out a lot of poor software in
the old days, and when the Playstation was released, that division changed
it's name to or was replaced by the current Sony software team. Psygnosis
was purchased, and has been a parallel development house. Each division
has apparently focused on different target markets. The Sony team has
seems to be focused to a large degree on sports (Shoot Out, Face Off, Game
Day) while the Psygnosis team has focused more on the arcade-ish and
science fiction/fantasy elements of game software. As I mentioned in a
previous post, I'm not saying that Psygnosis has the same relationship
with Sony that AM2 has with Sega, but they are still part of Sony last I
heard.
MASHOOD KHAN
On Tue, 23 Apr 1996, Sleet wrote:
> Lei Wulong wrote:
> >
> > Michael Arguello <histo...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I just heard from a person who said he heard some stuff from inside Sega
> > >that Tekken 2 will be coming to the Saturn this Christmas!!! Also Ridge
> > >Racer 3 will be a Saturn exclusive. I don't really go for Ridge Racer 3
> > >but Saturn owners should like Tekken 2. I bet Tekken 2 will a perfect
> > >port.
> >
> > You've got to be joking. TK2 coming out for the saturn has about as
> > much of a chance as VF2 comingout for the PSX. And don't make me
> > laugh about RR3. I don't know if it even exists yet, but if it does
> > the saturn couldn't handle it anyways.
>
>
> Actually my friend bought a PSX because the dumbass store clerk told him
> that VF2 was already out for it. Hehe. Anyway Lei is right. It's
> pretty much a fact. Namco works for Sony, and they make Tekken 2 and
> Ridge Racer. So whoever told you this was abviously full of shit. The
> only good games that the Saturn will ever have that Sony won't will be
> Daytona and Sega Rally, so just but a Playstation and save the rest of
> the money for games.
>
> Sleet
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> The views expressed above
> are Sleet's opinions, and
> Sleet is always right!!!!
> __________________________
>
>Sleet is also biased as hell, Why the hell wouldm't Namco release TK2 on
the Saturn, Namco just have a licence to produce software on the Sony
they also have one to produce on the Saturn and the N64, Judging by the
populairty of the Saturn in Japan, Namco will probrably do some
conversions of their titles, BTW the PC will be getting Rave Racer, Ridge
Racer, Air Combat 22, and Tekken. However all those games with the
exception of Ridge Racer will need the Power VR chip.
Mash
Alexander Cheyney
C'mon Mike...rumors, rumors, rumors...you can't believe everything you hear. What
game has Namco put out for the Saturn....what games are reported in development?
If Namco wants to change its focus to 2D, then it may eventually put something out for
for the Saturn. Right now Namco is doing games for arcades with System 11 and 22, which are
either virtually totally PSX compatible in the case of the former or partially in the case of the latter.
The Saturn's 3D capabilities are not currently as good as the PSX (I will admit that part of this is
due to the fact that the programmers have for the most part not been able to harness the Saturn's
capabilities in this area. The Playstation IS better geared for 3D) at any rate, contractually, Namco
is doing PSX exclusives for 32 bit, so for the time being: GET OVER IT!
terrell gibbs
In article <kens-30049...@news.teleport.com>, ke...@pdx.csnw.com
(Ken Sjoquist) wrote:
:As I mentioned in a
:previous post, I'm not saying that Psygnosis has the same relationship
:with Sony that AM2 has with Sega, but they are still part of Sony last I
:heard.
Psygnosis is owned by Sony, but they have never been part of Sony in the
sense of being merged into Sony's operations. In fact, the latest news is
that Sony is considering selling Psygnosis. I suspect that Sony has
discovered that purchasing an independent software developer like
Psygnosis confers very little control. After all, if Sony were to get too
heavy-handed in telling Psygnosis who they can and can't develop for, they
might just find themselves owning little more than some old games and the
empty shell of a company, while facing competition from a new start-up
firm that just happens to employ all of Psygnosis' former programmers.
Magus
Mike Khim <mik...@ibm.net> wrote:
>NAMCO and SONY are not in good relationship as they were used to be when SONY released PSX.....
True? It would be great if you would provide us with a source.
The supreme and almighty,
MAGUS
***************************************************************
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.......................
Guardian Heroes (Saturn)
Night Warriors (Saturn)
Panzer Dragoon 2 (Saturn)
Justin Saxinger
Alexande...@mail.trincoll.edu (Alexander Cheyney) wrote:
>I hate to point this out, but Sony has NOTHING directly to do with a possible
>release of Tekken 2 (Or Tekken "1" for that matter) to for the Saturn. The game was
>created by NAMCO. Namco is currently doing games exclusively for the PSX (for
>32 Bit platforms) and uses the PSX's System 11 technology for their arcade games.
>therefore I don't see how a potential "perfect" Saturn" translation would be likely.
Namco is a Sega developer, although the only game announced is Cyber
Sled.
--
justin
js...@tiac.net
--
Bean Bandit
In article <1996Apr28.091736@miavx1>, mcco...@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Alcuin) says:
>
>In article <4lmfa8$g...@argentina.it.earthlink.net>, vs...@earthlink.com (Magus) writes:
>>
>>
>
>Okay -- it could happen. Theoretically. Considering system exclusivity
>contracts, System 11, and also the fact that switching to a biggest rival would
>definately not please the company supporting and offering support for the
>previous two, let's just take it as granted that it won't happen, at least not
>with Sega.
>
Why's everybody so worried about whether Tekken 2 comes out for the Saturn
anyway? As long as it comes out for the PSX, I really don't care who else
gets it. I thought that we, the sensible, mature 32-bit system owners were
above the fierce game-system loyalty thing?
terrell gibbs
:Okay -- it could happen. Theoretically. Considering system exclusivity
:contracts, System 11, and also the fact that switching to a biggest rival would
:definately not please the company supporting and offering support for the
:previous two, let's just take it as granted that it won't happen, at least not
:with Sega.
I don't know of any system exclusivity contract between Namco and Sony,
and it would be incredibly stupid for Namco to enter into any such
agreement. And frankly, Namco is unlikely to be all that concerned with
"pleasing" Sony--Sony needs Namco a lot more than Namco needs Sony.
Certainly, if Psygnosis, who is *owned* by Sony, is willing and able to
port their games to the Saturn, it hardly makes sense to imagine that Sony
will stop an independent company from doing so. It's probably simply a
business decision for Namco--they have to decide if their games are strong
enough to compete with Sega's, considering that so many of their games are
Sega clones. But Soul Edge might be a good choice, since Sega doesn't
really have a fighting game of that sort.
Atila Mert
tgi...@bu.edu (terrell gibbs) wrote:
>In article <4lhk1o$e...@news.net-connect.net>, eat...@usl.edu (Lei Wulong)
>wrote:
>:You've got to be joking. TK2 coming out for the saturn has about as
>:much of a chance as VF2 comingout for the PSX.
>Not really. Namco is not owned by Sony; they are free to develop for any
>platform they choose. In the past, they have seemed to be reluctant to go
>head-to-head with Sega, perhaps because their games are widely perceived,
>at least by Saturn owners, as second-rate copies of Sega's. But that seems
>to be changing. Soul Edge is a very nice title, and while somewhat
>derivative of the VF series, Sega doesn't really have anything to match
>it. On the other hand, Namco gets more "bang for the buck" developing for
>the PS, because they have used that platform for their arcade games, so
>they can kill two birds with one stone. Thus, I expect that the PS will
>continue to get Namco's games first, unless Namco decides to switch to a
>different arcade platform.
Well for all you non-believers out there: TEKKEN is about 40% finished
for our SATURN, and yes, work has already begun on converting TEKKEN 2
to the SATURN!!!!! Expect to see Tekken in the shops either just
before tha big holiday( yeah, school's out for summer!!) just after!!!
This could mean that if there is significant progress on TEKKEN 2,
TEKKEN 1 might not be released at all !!
Where do I get my info??
None of your business, at this moment, but it is pretty substantiated,
TRUST ME on this one .........
Lei rewlz .... so does Baek .... both on Saturn pretty soon!!
Atila
The one and only!!
Ain't no beating him!!
http://www.tip.nl/users/atila.mert
Check out my Teri Hatcher site at:
http://www.tip.nl/users/atila.mert/teri.htm
Always tha latest pics!!
Magus
js...@tiac.net (Justin Saxinger) wrote:
>Alexande...@mail.trincoll.edu (Alexander Cheyney) wrote:
Cyber Sled...hmmm...I remember seeing it on a list, but what happened?
:) Not that I care, Virtua On blows it away.
Alcuin
In article <4m1bfq$2...@service-2.agate.net>, over...@overkill.sdi.agate.net (Rick Florey) writes:
> Namco's deal with Sony doesn't include exclusivity, the Saturn could
> do a good mimicry of System 11, and since Tekken is pretty much the
> PS's only serious competition (by and large) for VF and the fact that
> Namco is making the bulk of the PS's killer apps, Sony would be
> hard-pressed to try to force them to do anything. Namco is an 800
> pound gorilla in PS's jungle, and it'll do whatever the heck it wants.
I love how no one considers the factor of Sony in this speculation. Do you
really think Namco would start developing Sys11 PSX games for the Saturn when
they are in a position to both a) make a killing doing exclusively for PSX and
b) demand virtually anything from Sony due to the popularity of their games?
Tell you what. When Namco ports RR3 and Tekken 2 and whatever else you'd like
to speculate, over to the Saturn, drop me an e-mail and I'll send you a photo
of myself eating a large crow. Thanks.
Magus
>Well for all you non-believers out there: TEKKEN is about 40% finished
>for our SATURN, and yes, work has already begun on converting TEKKEN 2
>to the SATURN!!!!! Expect to see Tekken in the shops either just
>before tha big holiday( yeah, school's out for summer!!) just after!!!
>This could mean that if there is significant progress on TEKKEN 2,
>TEKKEN 1 might not be released at all !!
>Where do I get my info??
>None of your business, at this moment, but it is pretty substantiated,
>TRUST ME on this one .........
>Lei rewlz .... so does Baek .... both on Saturn pretty soon!!
>Atila
Whatever
terrell gibbs
In article <DqqMw...@tip.nl>, atila...@tip.nl (Atila Mert) wrote:
:This could mean that if there is significant progress on TEKKEN 2,
:TEKKEN 1 might not be released at all !!
They can forget Tekken1, as far as I'm concerned. But I'd like to see Tekken2
Byakoshinken
I've heard that the saturn may get SoulEdge also. That would be funny
as hell. Since the saturn can't do 3D. You would have an arcade
perfect(maybe even better) PSX version and a 64 color , dithered,
no lighting effects, no 3D backgrounds with crappy sound Saturn
version. Everyone will know that the PSX is the superior machine.
Billy Benson
On 26 Apr 1996 02:58:47 GMT, "Gumby Damnit!" <cn1...@coastalnet.com> wrote:
>Michael Arguello <histo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> You are forgetting about Daytona Remix and Manx TT. Those blow away
>> any racing game Namco or Sony has to offer.
>
>
>What are you psychic??? Where have you seen Daytona Remix?
>
>It's highly unlikely that any of the "big" Namco titles will find their
>way to the Saturn...particularly those developed on the System 11 (PSX)
>this would include Tekken, Tekken 2, Soul Edge, and the new basketball
>game.
>
>You also have to take into consideration that the the Saturn version
>would certainly be inferior to the Playstation version.
I think that the Saturn owners are used to inferior games... Well, they
better get used to it. Man, VF3 is gonna look sickening!! I don't even
think Sega should convert that big dissapointment waiting to happen.
Billy Benson
bi...@ponyexpress.com
PsychoKick
In article <4makev$5...@news.net-connect.net>,
Not this stupid "My toy is better that your toy" attitude again. People
sound so childish when they say "Saturn roolz!" or "PSX is kewler!"
-PsychoKick
http://crescent.resnet.cornell.edu
School of Hard Nox and other chaos...
good man charlie brown
In article <1996May1.123314@miavx1>, mcco...@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Alcuin) writes:
>In article <4m1bfq$2...@service-2.agate.net>, over...@overkill.sdi.agate.net (Rick Florey) writes:
>> Namco's deal with Sony doesn't include exclusivity, the Saturn could
>> do a good mimicry of System 11, and since Tekken is pretty much the
>> PS's only serious competition (by and large) for VF and the fact that
>> Namco is making the bulk of the PS's killer apps, Sony would be
>> hard-pressed to try to force them to do anything. Namco is an 800
>> pound gorilla in PS's jungle, and it'll do whatever the heck it wants.
>
>I love how no one considers the factor of Sony in this speculation. Do you
>really think Namco would start developing Sys11 PSX games for the Saturn when
>they are in a position to both a) make a killing doing exclusively for PSX and
>b) demand virtually anything from Sony due to the popularity of their games?
a) Um, wouldn't Namco make more of a killing developing for more systems? That
sounds like better business sense to me.
b) Except for Tekken 2, I really wouldn't say their games are all that popular
right now.
Kristopher Huynh * We're sorry, the reality you have dialed
http://www.egr.uh.edu/~axs03425/ * is currently not in service. Please
st...@jetson.uh.edu * consult your local diety and dial again.
Maekchu
On 1 May 1996 05:09:11 GMT, jjo...@direct.ca (Bean Bandit) wrote:
>
>Why's everybody so worried about whether Tekken 2 comes out for the
Saturn
>anyway? As long as it comes out for the PSX, I really don't care who
else
>gets it. I thought that we, the sensible, mature 32-bit system
owners were
>above the fierce game-system loyalty thing?
Well If saturn got every single psx title and psx didn't get any sega
titles such as VF2 then buying a psx would be pointless leading to
less sales which equals to less games made and etc... no?
Alcuin
In article <4m6rln$1...@aphex.direct.ca>, jjo...@direct.ca (Bean Bandit) writes:
> Why's everybody so worried about whether Tekken 2 comes out for the Saturn
> anyway? As long as it comes out for the PSX, I really don't care who else
> gets it. I thought that we, the sensible, mature 32-bit system owners were
> above the fierce game-system loyalty thing?
On that same note, why don't system designers just share all their hardware
plans and produce the same systems? Hell, what's the use of patents? In fact,
let's abolish all private property.
Gumby Damnit!
Alexande...@mail.trincoll.edu (Alexander Cheyney) wrote:
>
> I hate to point this out, but Sony has NOTHING directly to do with a possible
> release of Tekken 2 (Or Tekken "1" for that matter) to for the Saturn. The game was
> created by NAMCO. Namco is currently doing games exclusively for the PSX (for
> 32 Bit platforms) and uses the PSX's System 11 technology for their arcade games.
> therefore I don't see how a potential "perfect" Saturn" translation would be likely.
> but have not been able to verify this.
I don't know why Capcom would have distribution rights to any of Namco's
games, since Sony & Namco are both able to distribute quite well.
Tekken 1 is coming to the PC via the new NEC chip based 3-D board...
while it could find it's way to other consoles, I don't think that's
very likely.
Magus
eat...@usl.edu (Byakoshinken) wrote:
>I've heard that the saturn may get SoulEdge also. That would be funny
>as hell. Since the saturn can't do 3D. You would have an arcade
>perfect(maybe even better) PSX version and a 64 color , dithered,
>no lighting effects, no 3D backgrounds with crappy sound Saturn
>version. Everyone will know that the PSX is the superior machine.
Hehe! I had to stop myself from laughing at this idiot before writing
this post!
Man o man, you are one messed up gamer.
Magus
mcco...@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Alcuin) wrote:
>In article <4m1bfq$2...@service-2.agate.net>, over...@overkill.sdi.agate.net (Rick Florey) writes:
>> Namco's deal with Sony doesn't include exclusivity, the Saturn could
>> do a good mimicry of System 11, and since Tekken is pretty much the
>> PS's only serious competition (by and large) for VF and the fact that
>> Namco is making the bulk of the PS's killer apps, Sony would be
>> hard-pressed to try to force them to do anything. Namco is an 800
>> pound gorilla in PS's jungle, and it'll do whatever the heck it wants.
>I love how no one considers the factor of Sony in this speculation. Do you
>really think Namco would start developing Sys11 PSX games for the Saturn when
>they are in a position to both a) make a killing doing exclusively for PSX and
>b) demand virtually anything from Sony due to the popularity of their games?
>Tell you what. When Namco ports RR3 and Tekken 2 and whatever else you'd like
>to speculate, over to the Saturn, drop me an e-mail and I'll send you a photo
>of myself eating a large crow. Thanks.
Really? If it RR3 and Tekken 2 does come out for the Saturn, will you
send a copy of the picture to me? I've actually never seen a person
eating a crow before. And I plan to see one before I die.:) Oh yeah,
and smile at the camera!
^_^
Michael Arguello
True Namco's only popular games today I would say areeeee. The Tekken
series, Soul Edge, Alpine Racer. And that is about it.
Mr_Blah
Byakoshinken wrote:
>
> I've heard that the saturn may get SoulEdge also. That would be funny
> as hell. Since the saturn can't do 3D. You would have an arcade
> perfect(maybe even better) PSX version and a 64 color , dithered,
> no lighting effects, no 3D backgrounds with crappy sound Saturn
> version. Everyone will know that the PSX is the superior machine.
Listen pointdexter, the Saturn can do just as good, if not better job
then a PlayStation .. time after time I have seen both system stats
being analysed, and Saturn is always the most powerful, and Saturn seems
to be getting all the major PSx releases anyway.. Toh Shin Den,
Destruction Derby, WipeOut, Loaded, and now possibly Tekken 2 ...
I agree that PSX is a good system, I dont agree on you trashing the
Saturn ..
Later
free...@earthlink.net
In article <4m95lh$o...@paraguay.it.earthlink.net>, vs...@earthlink.net
(Magus) wrote:
> >Well for all you non-believers out there: TEKKEN is about 40% finished
> >for our SATURN, and yes, work has already begun on converting TEKKEN 2
> >to the SATURN!!!!! Expect to see Tekken in the shops either just
> >before tha big holiday( yeah, school's out for summer!!) just after!!!
>
> >This could mean that if there is significant progress on TEKKEN 2,
> >TEKKEN 1 might not be released at all !!
>
> >Where do I get my info??
> >None of your business, at this moment, but it is pretty substantiated,
> >TRUST ME on this one .........
>
> >Lei rewlz .... so does Baek .... both on Saturn pretty soon!!
>
> >Atila
>
Where do people get this stuff? Give me some PROOF before you say all this!
I think maybe I'll got to Namco's webpage and see what's up. After all, I
hear that only Cybersled will be coming....as if anyone cares! And seeing
as how Soul Edge was made with PS hardware...
Lee
Gumby Damnit!
atila...@tip.nl (Atila Mert) wrote:
>
> Well for all you non-believers out there: TEKKEN is about 40% finished
> for our SATURN, and yes, work has already begun on converting TEKKEN 2
> to the SATURN!!!!! Expect to see Tekken in the shops either just
> before tha big holiday( yeah, school's out for summer!!) just after!!!
>
> This could mean that if there is significant progress on TEKKEN 2,
> TEKKEN 1 might not be released at all !!
>
> Where do I get my info??
> None of your business, at this moment, but it is pretty substantiated,
> TRUST ME on this one .........
Whenever someone tells me "TRUST ME" I automatically DON'T.
If it's "substantiated" then why not share this info>???
I'm surprised you're not on AOL.
The big give away to your post was "yeah, school's out for summer!!)
I suspect you'd be better off working on fine tuning your paper route
than posting unsubstantiated nonsense (40% complete)!!
terrell gibbs
:I've heard that the saturn may get SoulEdge also. That would be funny
:as hell. Since the saturn can't do 3D. You would have an arcade
:perfect(maybe even better) PSX version and a 64 color , dithered,
:no lighting effects, no 3D backgrounds with crappy sound Saturn
:version. Everyone will know that the PSX is the superior machine.
I think that most of us here would be more than happy with a VF2-quality
rendition of Soul Edge. And we know that Sega has improved its graphics
library since VF2. Frankly, I am less concerned with having a "superior
machine" than with having superior software. A "superior" machine that
can't play Panzer Dragoon or VF2 or Sega Rally at all does not have much
appeal to me; I'm willing to accept slightly "inferior" versions of
Psygnosis' and Namco's games if it means that I will have access to
Sega's.
Umair Yousufi
Alcuin <mcco...@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> wrote:
>In article <4m1bfq$2...@service-2.agate.net>, over...@overkill.sdi.agate.net (Rick Florey) writes:
>> Namco's deal with Sony doesn't include exclusivity, the Saturn could
>> do a good mimicry of System 11, and since Tekken is pretty much the
>> PS's only serious competition (by and large) for VF and the fact that
>> Namco is making the bulk of the PS's killer apps, Sony would be
>> hard-pressed to try to force them to do anything. Namco is an 800
>> pound gorilla in PS's jungle, and it'll do whatever the heck it wants.
>
>I love how no one considers the factor of Sony in this speculation.
Funny, isn't it! You know, how Namco is an independent third party and
all and that Sony has no say in the matter! And you wonder why no one
factors Sony into the equation...funny, isn't it?
>Do you really think Namco would start developing Sys11 PSX games for the
>Saturn when they are in a position to both a) make a killing doing
>exclusively for PSX
What about exclusivity makes it more profitable for Namco? Hmm? They are
not in the business of selling systems, from which they make no money, but
instead are in the business of selling games, from which they *do* make
money.
Worldwide, the Saturn has the same, if not more, units distributed. Why
wouldn't Namco benefit?
>and b) demand virtually anything from Sony due to the popularity of their
>games?
Whatever. You obviously pulled that argument out of your a**. "Demand
anything"? Hmm. Why not full ownership over Sony! Why not that!? Since
Namco *is* a business and money is the key factor, I don't see how Sony
sending Namco fruit baskets is going to influence them any. Geez, what a
stupid argument. The only thing Sony could do to retain Namco exclusively
is to pay them money; nothing else will work.
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Alcuin
In article <4mdbih$m...@peabody.colorado.edu>, you...@ucsub.Colorado.EDU (Umair Yousufi) writes:
> Alcuin <mcco...@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> wrote:
> Whatever. You obviously pulled that argument out of your a**. "Demand
> anything"? Hmm. Why not full ownership over Sony! Why not that!? Since
> Namco *is* a business and money is the key factor, I don't see how Sony
> sending Namco fruit baskets is going to influence them any. Geez, what a
> stupid argument. The only thing Sony could do to retain Namco exclusively
> is to pay them money; nothing else will work.
Which Sony seems to be doing. Gee. What a flawed argument.
By the way, Namco's ads seem to favor my position over your with regard to
system exclusivity.
Rick Florey
eat...@usl.edu (Byakoshinken) wrote:
>I've heard that the saturn may get SoulEdge also. That would be funny
>as hell. Since the saturn can't do 3D. You would have an arcade
>perfect(maybe even better) PSX version and a 64 color , dithered,
>no lighting effects, no 3D backgrounds with crappy sound Saturn
>version. Everyone will know that the PSX is the superior machine.
This message isn't worth the flames it's bound to get, so I'll contest
it here. Saturn can do 3D, it has color equal to the PS (a fact)
dithering isn't necessary (transparency problems have apparently been
solved) 3D backgrounds have been done on Saturn, but this guy's
obviously referring to VF2, so we'll leave that as understood, and
Saturn and PS have equivalent sound. Neither Saturn nor PS is a
superior machine, as they are both capable of playing at least ONE
good game that the other doesn't.
Alex
terrell gibbs wrote:
>
> In article <4makev$5...@news.net-connect.net>, eat...@usl.edu
> (Byakoshinken) wrote:
>
> :I've heard that the saturn may get SoulEdge also. That would be funny
> :as hell. Since the saturn can't do 3D. You would have an arcade
> :perfect(maybe even better) PSX version and a 64 color , dithered,
> :no lighting effects, no 3D backgrounds with crappy sound Saturn
> :version. Everyone will know that the PSX is the superior machine.
>
> rendition of Soul Edge. And we know that Sega has improved its graphics
> library since VF2. Frankly, I am less concerned with having a "superior
> machine" than with having superior software. A "superior" machine that
> can't play Panzer Dragoon or VF2 or Sega Rally at all does not have much
> appeal to me; I'm willing to accept slightly "inferior" versions of
> Psygnosis' and Namco's games if it means that I will have access to
arcde games. I am not really a big fan of Namco games. That is why I
got A Saturn not a PSX
Sektor
Right folks just a moment of your time. Moi is a bonafide p.c man but
recently purchased a PS and boy is it nice. Just a thought can u hook it
up a Hifi u can on a p.c just wondering any help greatly appreciated
Dragonmaster Lou
over...@overkill.sdi.agate.net (Rick Florey) wrote:
>This message isn't worth the flames it's bound to get, so I'll contest
>it here. Saturn can do 3D, it has color equal to the PS (a fact)
>dithering isn't necessary (transparency problems have apparently been
>solved) 3D backgrounds have been done on Saturn, but this guy's
>obviously referring to VF2, so we'll leave that as understood, and
>Saturn and PS have equivalent sound. Neither Saturn nor PS is a
>superior machine, as they are both capable of playing at least ONE
>good game that the other doesn't.
Actually, most people say that the Saturn does have the best sound of
any of the Next Gen machines released.
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In article <318cfc23....@news.brown.edu>,
Dragonmaster Lou <Dragon...@brown.edu> wrote:
>
>Actually, most people say that the Saturn does have the best sound of
>any of the Next Gen machines released.
>
Yeah the funny thing is the Saturn games using ADPCM sound (generated
by the Saturn's hardware) sound much better than just playing music
straight off the CD. The most awesome music I've heard from the Saturn
was in Gakujo Parodius from Konami, and it was all PCM music!
-TK
James Song
Torpedo wrote:
>
> In article <4mbe0d$q...@tribune.concentric.net>, Michael Arguello <histo...@aol.com> wrote:
> > True Namco's only popular games today I would say areeeee. The Tekken
> >series, Soul Edge, Alpine Racer. And that is about it.
> >
Area 51 is not published by Namco. However, Time Crisis is and is one
of the better shooting games available in the arcades.
JS
Maekchu
On Sat, 04 May 1996 03:40:35 GMT, over...@overkill.sdi.agate.net
(Rick Florey) wrote:
>
>This message isn't worth the flames it's bound to get, so I'll
contest
>it here. Saturn can do 3D, it has color equal to the PS (a fact)
>dithering isn't necessary (transparency problems have apparently
been
>solved) 3D backgrounds have been done on Saturn, but this guy's
>obviously referring to VF2, so we'll leave that as understood, and
>Saturn and PS have equivalent sound. Neither Saturn nor PS is a
>superior machine, as they are both capable of playing at least ONE
>good game that the other doesn't.
The Saturn is supposed to have a better sound board.. but it
apparently hasn't shown its stuff yet..
Umair Yousufi
Alcuin <mcco...@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> wrote:
>In article <4mdbih$m...@peabody.colorado.edu>, you...@ucsub.Colorado.EDU (Umair Yousufi) writes:
>> Alcuin <mcco...@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> wrote:
>> Whatever. You obviously pulled that argument out of your a**. "Demand
>> anything"? Hmm. Why not full ownership over Sony! Why not that!? Since
>> Namco *is* a business and money is the key factor, I don't see how Sony
>> sending Namco fruit baskets is going to influence them any. Geez, what a
>> stupid argument. The only thing Sony could do to retain Namco exclusively
>> is to pay them money; nothing else will work.
>
>Which Sony seems to be doing. Gee. What a flawed argument.
Praytell, how does it "seem" that Sony is paying Namco. Can you intuit
the details of agreements between companies? Go check the NextGen website
and you'll see that Namco won't deny or confirm that they are considering
making games for the Saturn. Now, supposing Sony *was* paying them, why
wouldn't Namco flat out deny and squelch such rumors? I imagine such
rumors, if Sony was paying Namco, wouldn't make them at all happy.
Gee. What a flawed argument on your half.
Idiot.
--
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GOOSE
In article <318804...@ozemail.com.au>, there@here wrote:
> Byakoshinken wrote:
> >
> > I've heard that the saturn may get SoulEdge also. That would be funny
> > as hell. Since the saturn can't do 3D. You would have an arcade
> > perfect(maybe even better) PSX version and a 64 color , dithered,
> > no lighting effects, no 3D backgrounds with crappy sound Saturn
> > version. Everyone will know that the PSX is the superior machine.
>
> Listen pointdexter, the Saturn can do just as good, if not better job
> then a PlayStation .. time after time I have seen both system stats
> being analysed, and Saturn is always the most powerful, and Saturn seems
> to be getting all the major PSx releases anyway.. Toh Shin Den,
> Destruction Derby, WipeOut, Loaded, and now possibly Tekken 2 ...
>
> I agree that PSX is a good system, I dont agree on you trashing the
> Saturn ..
>
> Later
QUestion is now that TSD REMIX is out and WIPEOUT is out for SATURN....and
you compare to the PSX Versions.....You notice the differences Immediately
and they are not favorable for the SATURN.
I'm not bashing the SATURN....(I own both).....but it is obvious that
SATURN lacks certain strengths when you look at these games which look
much much better on PSX.
-GOOSE
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In article <318d59e9...@news.atlcom.net>, an46...@anon.penet.fi
(Maekchu) wrote:
The problem is that many developers are taking the VF2 route and using
some of the memory partioned for the sound reproduction and using it for
other parts of the game. Since sound is done last, programmers make the
best of it that they can. Oh well, maybe there'll be other ways to get
around this problem in the future.
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Blake Patterson
Well...you take the L & R audio outputs from the PSX cable...and
you plugf them into the L & R audio inputs on your hifi system. It can
be rather tricky.
bp
Ps -- It will work in any audio-in on your hifi except phono.
Michael Arguello
Magus
>QUestion is now that TSD REMIX is out and WIPEOUT is out for SATURN....and
>you compare to the PSX Versions.....You notice the differences Immediately
>and they are not favorable for the SATURN.
>I'm not bashing the SATURN....(I own both).....but it is obvious that
>SATURN lacks certain strengths when you look at these games which look
>much much better on PSX.
>-GOOSE
I don't think Saturn is lacking anything the PSX has. By looking at
all the new Saturn releases (i.e. Panzer Dragoon 2 Zwei, Nights),
these games push tons of polygons and looks more impressive, IMP, than
Tekken 2 or TSD.
Peter Ronaszeki
teh...@crl.com (Teh Kao Yang) writes:
>The most awesome music I've heard from the Saturn
>was in Gakujo Parodius from Konami, and it was all PCM music!
You must not have heard many Saturn games.
The best music of any Saturn game is in Last Gladiators Digital Pinball.
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Blake Patterson (bl...@widomaker.com) wrote:
: In <Pine.OSF.3.91.960505161916.28156A-100000@leofric> Sektor <i...@coventry.ac.uk> writes:
: >Right folks just a moment of your time. Moi is a bonafide p.c man but
: >recently purchased a PS and boy is it nice. Just a thought can u hook it
: >up a Hifi u can on a p.c just wondering any help greatly appreciated
: Well...you take the L & R audio outputs from the PSX cable...and
: you plugf them into the L & R audio inputs on your hifi system. It can
: be rather tricky.
I'm sorry, I don't quite understand. Can you please be a little less
technical?
: bp
mac...@wake-tech.campus.mci.net
bl...@widomaker.com (Blake Patterson) wrote:
>In <Pine.OSF.3.91.960505161916.28156A-100000@leofric> Sektor <i...@coventry.ac.uk> writes:
>>Right folks just a moment of your time. Moi is a bonafide p.c man but
>>recently purchased a PS and boy is it nice. Just a thought can u hook it
>>up a Hifi u can on a p.c just wondering any help greatly appreciated
> Well...you take the L & R audio outputs from the PSX cable...and
>you plugf them into the L & R audio inputs on your hifi system. It can
>be rather tricky.
>bp
>Ps -- It will work in any audio-in on your hifi except phono.
umm and besides nice..depending on the quality of your components your playstation will ROCK.
I know because I hooked up my saturn to my pioneer VSX-505DL(Dolby pro-logic surround sound receiver)
and I am also using BOSE(acoustic)mini speakers with an output of 600 watts total* not counting the bass module*
and it totally ROCKS!
Imagine playing VF2 or GH in glorious surround sound..
Jamie Dirom
Billy Benson wrote:
> I think that the Saturn owners are used to inferior games... Well, they
> better get used to it. Man, VF3 is gonna look sickening!! I don't even
> think Sega should convert that big dissapointment waiting to happen.
>
> Billy Benson
> bi...@ponyexpress.com
I think the consensus of the unspoken majority in these newsgroups is
that neither system has "superior" or "inferior" games. The argument is a
ping pong battle that follows every new release. PSX owners love their
Playstations (and their smooth graphics), Saturn owners love their
Saturns (and their Sega translations). I think the only "inferior" games
32 bit gamers are used to are some of the poor third party games that are
out.
But to entertain your comment about VF3, perhaps Sega should never
translate it because, to use your words, it would look "sickening" on any
home system. But I think most gamers would like to see a graphically
trimmed, fully playable VF3 over an arcade perfect MK3.
It would be a perfect world if people would post based on reality and not
their fantasies born of insecurity ("I paid $299 for my PSX/Saturn and
I'm afraid the other is doing really well!") or lack of childhood
attention.
pasquale demaio
Maekchu (an46...@anon.penet.fi) wrote:
: The Saturn is supposed to have a better sound board.. but it
: apparently hasn't shown its stuff yet..
I can't say that this is true or not, but It was comented by someone
quite some time ago that the saturn has much less ram available for
samples and that's why the sound is generally poorer unless it's cgm.
Sounds kind of like the situation with all these 2D games on the PSX.
No ram. Well that's what happens when pricefixing is rampant.
Pasquale DeMaio
Arjan Tijms
>>and b) demand virtually anything from Sony due to the popularity of their
>>games?
>
>Whatever. You obviously pulled that argument out of your a**. "Demand
>anything"? Hmm. Why not full ownership over Sony! Why not that!? Since
>Namco *is* a business and money is the key factor, I don't see how Sony
>sending Namco fruit baskets is going to influence them any. Geez, what a
>stupid argument. The only thing Sony could do to retain Namco exclusively
>is to pay them money; nothing else will work.
There might be one other factor of importance, the competition between
Sega and Namco in the Arcade market.
If Namco would develop for Saturn, this would mean (???) more Saturn
sales for Sega, which would mean more money for Sega => more
competition for Namco in the Arcades.
Still,it might be possible that the funds for research inside sega are
strictly separated for the differnt devisions (ie Arcade hardware,
home hardware,Arcade/home software etc)
If that were true, my statement wouldn't make any sense ofcourse.
grtz
Arjan Tijms
jjo...@direct.ca (Bean Bandit) wrote:
>Why's everybody so worried about whether Tekken 2 comes out for the Saturn
>anyway? As long as it comes out for the PSX, I really don't care who else
>gets it. I thought that we, the sensible, mature 32-bit system owners were
>above the fierce game-system loyalty thing?
Hmm, I suppose you're quite right ; any adult with a job can easily
afford to buy both systems, certainly after the recent price drops.
If would be better for the entire market if both the separate Sony and
Sega markets would focus on what their system can do best.
The custumer can then choose, if he/she wants game type A he/she buys
Sega, otherwise Sony, both or an other system.
Ofcourse there is still use for some overlapping ; for the sake of
healthy competition.
IMHO ports (except Arcade ports) are never the solution, as many times
games are optimized and make special use of features of one machine
and therefore would not shine on the other machine which does not have
these specific features (it probably has other special feautures, so
the lack of one kind does not make it an overall inferior system).
grtz
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CMoon32
The only way that anyone has ever mentioned to get the Devil Kazuya is to
beat the Galaga game in the begining with only one continue. I've never
had the patience so.... A couple of people mentioned that if you clear
the first or second wave under a certain time you get a double ship that
helps with the following levels. Good luck.
Grim Reaper
> had the patience so.... A couple of people mentioned that if you clear
> the first or second wave under a certain time you get a double ship that
> helps with the following levels. Good luck.
If you can complete the first level in 22.2 secs or under (PAL Version) you get the
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>> Pasquale DeMaioI keep hearing this too, but I don't understand what they're talking
>about (I'm not too knowledgeable about electronics) I thought the PSX had
>less RAM for games or something. Do both the Saturn and PSX have the same
>amounts of RAM just allocated differently? I'd like to know why the PSX
>doesn't rund 2-d games as well and vice versa. Sorry if this has been
>asked before.
It's quite simple. The Saturn can do better in 2-D because IT WAS MADE
WITH 2-D IN MIND. The Saturn's architecture allows it to do 2-D games
with ease. The PSX, on the other hand, was made for 3-D.
As for RAM, the Saturn has more. I'm not sure if I'm correct, but I
think the PSX has 2.0 megs of RAM and the Saturn has 2.5 megs of RAM.
Not much of a difference, but enough to give the Saturn better load
times.
The PSX's 3-D is said to be better than the Saturn, but (I'm not
starting a flame) as more of the new Saturn 3-D games come out (i.e.
Panzer 2, Nights, etc.), I find it more hard to believe.
Leath Muller
vs...@earthlink.net (Magus) writes:
>>QUestion is now that TSD REMIX is out and WIPEOUT is out for SATURN....and
>>you compare to the PSX Versions.....You notice the differences Immediately
>>and they are not favorable for the SATURN.
>>I'm not bashing the SATURN....(I own both).....but it is obvious that
>>SATURN lacks certain strengths when you look at these games which look
>>much much better on PSX.
>I don't think Saturn is lacking anything the PSX has. By looking at
>all the new Saturn releases (i.e. Panzer Dragoon 2 Zwei, Nights),
>these games push tons of polygons and looks more impressive, IMP, than
>Tekken 2 or TSD.
Firstly, I thought Panzer Dragoon ran on rails, ie: the backgrounds are spooled
off CD, meaning no polygons are pushed around at all. Secondly, the good ol
Saturd DOESN'T have 3D polygon texture mapping, gourard shading, real time
calculated rotations etc etc etc implemented in HARDWARE! The fact is the
Saturn was made for 2D games, and the PSX was made for 3D. When Sega realised
they were severely outperformed by the PSX in the 3D arena, they chucked
another SH2 processor onto the board to increase the power, and yet it still
pales in comparison.
FACT: The PSX outperforms the Saturn due to HARDWARE doing all the 3D work, in
a 3D environment.
FACT: The Saturn outperforms the PSX in 2D due to the fact that SEGA like to
rip people off by making them pay more for inferior quality machines, and thus
stuck with easier-to-do 2D stuff, then go 3D in software.
Leathal.
Curtis J. Hepworth
In article <4muq6g$d...@news.mel.aone.net.au>,
lea...@gbrmpa.gov.au (Leath Muller) wrote:
>Saturd DOESN'T have 3D polygon texture mapping, gourard shading, real
time
>calculated rotations etc etc etc implemented in HARDWARE! The fact is
the
>Saturn was made for 2D games, and the PSX was made for 3D. When Sega
realised
>they were severely outperformed by the PSX in the 3D arena, they
chucked
>another SH2 processor onto the board to increase the power, and yet it
still
>pales in comparison.
>
>FACT: The PSX outperforms the Saturn due to HARDWARE doing all the 3D
work, in
>a 3D environment.
>
>FACT: The Saturn outperforms the PSX in 2D due to the fact that SEGA
like to
>rip people off by making them pay more for inferior quality machines,
and thus
>stuck with easier-to-do 2D stuff, then go 3D in software.
>
>Leathal.
FACT: Your belly button monocle needs dusting off.
FACT: If you pulled you head out you'd get whiplash.
FACT: You are so narrow minded you can look through a keyhole
with both eyes at the same time. (Undoubtably fortunate
considering your current predicament!) ;)
Curtis J.
(Owner of many systems)
Thomas Holmes
Leath Muller wrote:
>
> vs...@earthlink.net (Magus) writes:
>
> FACT: The PSX outperforms the Saturn due to HARDWARE doing all the 3D work, in
> a 3D environment.
The Sega is by far the most powerful console available in the high street
hardware wise at the moment its main problem is that no-one has been able
to full unleash it potental yet, just look at the later snes/megadrive
titles and compare them to the early one theres no comparison. Plus Sega
has atleast built in the facility to increase the systems power with
aditional hardware by expansion slots something that PSX didn't have the
foresight to do! I also own a VHS video and there were always more video
titles avalible for that over Betamax but that doesn't mean I bought the
best technical system.
I think that most people would agree that 90% of available titles on both
games platforms are a pile of biz. So maybe we sould just compare top
titles aginst top titles. Or better still maybe we sould just stop
arguing about it and play the damn things! All these systems will be
superseded in time, I think the only arguement you can have is with the
shop that sold you the system! do you feel ripped off! I don't I'm quite
happy with what I've got! If I had all the time in the world I'd play
every system! But if graphic and polygon sifting is all a game is about
then how come tetris was such a hit!
Tommy
Jeff Kleist
Well...Tekken 2 was done with a PSX motherboard in the arcade machine,
and the Saturn DOES have a really hard time with 3D fighting
games(Toshinden Remix...need I say more??)
Cerebus
Dlw...@Prodigy.com
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vs...@earthlink.net (Magus) wrote:
>
>
> >> Pasquale DeMaioI keep hearing this too, but I don't understand what they're talking
> >about (I'm not too knowledgeable about electronics) I thought the PSX had
> >less RAM for games or something. Do both the Saturn and PSX have the same
> >amounts of RAM just allocated differently? I'd like to know why the PSX
> >doesn't rund 2-d games as well and vice versa. Sorry if this has been
> >asked before.
>
> It's quite simple. The Saturn can do better in 2-D because IT WAS MADE
> WITH 2-D IN MIND. The Saturn's architecture allows it to do 2-D games
> with ease. The PSX, on the other hand, was made for 3-D.
The 2-D capabilities of the PSX & Saturn are nearly identical. The idea
that PSX can't do 2-D dates back to the introduction of the PSX when
Saturn fans were desperately seeking something to find wrong with the
machine.
> As for RAM, the Saturn has more. I'm not sure if I'm correct, but I
> think the PSX has 2.0 megs of RAM and the Saturn has 2.5 megs of RAM.
> Not much of a difference, but enough to give the Saturn better load
> times.
The Saturn loads faster because it has a larger CD rom buffer...not
because of any RAM difference.
The Playstation can overcome this (as evidenced in Tekken & Tekken 2)
by clever programming.
> The PSX's 3-D is said to be better than the Saturn, but (I'm not
> starting a flame) as more of the new Saturn 3-D games come out (i.e.
> Panzer 2, Nights, etc.), I find it more hard to believe.
The PSX's 3-D is built into the unit, whereas the Saturn's is done
through programming...the trade off for this is in sound (VF2) or
backrounds, light sourcing, shading & transparencies.
Dragonmaster Lou
lea...@gbrmpa.gov.au (Leath Muller) wrote:
>FACT: The PSX outperforms the Saturn due to HARDWARE doing all the 3D work, in
>a 3D environment.
>
>FACT: The Saturn outperforms the PSX in 2D due to the fact that SEGA like to
>rip people off by making them pay more for inferior quality machines, and thus
>stuck with easier-to-do 2D stuff, then go 3D in software.
FACT: You are a moron.
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