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fas...@my-deja.com

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Jan 31, 2001, 9:24:37 AM1/31/01
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It looks like the rumors were correct. Sega lied last week when that article
surfaced. This fully committed horseshit. Why didn't they just fully admit
the truth then, and show gamers some respect? This could have hurt any
longevity they may have had left. The Set-top deal is already dead(in
theory), believe me.


The negativity is spreading like a cancer. Who will buy any new DC games
now? I won't.. Just wait til there all under $15.00 (probably by this Xmas
for sure). Just go thru the ads. What idiot would sign up with Seganet now?
I told you weeks ago that Seganet subscribership had peaked out, And after
NFL2K1, the novelty had worn off. Who listened? Look at ebay keyboard
prices. Were selling for $25-30. Now $15 and under. Or included in system
packages.


I knew something was wrong when the stores here in NJ(Best Buy, Circuit
City,TRU's) were not restocking. Did they know sooner?? I mentioned here it
and most of you said it was great sales. Well......... I couldn't say it on
Sunday, but the guy at Target said they were clearing the Dreamcast stuff
out.

What is really sad is the Dreamcast was beaten by, Two $99 almost dead
consoles and one you can't get(PS2). Confidence is fading quickly, word is
spreading fast. Look at ebay. Prices are falling and people are unloading.


I feel sorry for those who chose to buy a DC for Xmas, and not the PS2. But
will have to go and buy a PS2 anyway. Wow!


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york4311

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Jan 31, 2001, 9:42:37 AM1/31/01
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fas...@my-deja.com wrote in <95976r$b6d$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>:

Why, because they will be able to find 100s of games for under $20? I mean
really, my heart bleeds for someone that can pick up Soul Calibur and Crazy
Taxi for $20! What kind of logic is it that you are using?

James Rector

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Jan 31, 2001, 10:33:17 AM1/31/01
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People do want the latest and the greatest, so the DC will end up like the
Atari 2600, Intellivision, Saturn, and other gaming consoles...in the
closet.
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Dave Whittle

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Jan 31, 2001, 11:27:04 AM1/31/01
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fas...@my-deja.com wrote:

> Who will buy any new DC games
> now? I won't..

You must not like good games. I plan on buying PSO, Daytona 2001 (already have
the import), Sonic 2 and other great Dreamcast games. I don't care what system
it's on- a good game is a good game.

All systems will eventually be phased out. Stop thinking that systems will last
forever... well, maybe the Gameboy. (just kidding)

The good side is a lot of GREAT DC games are going to be cheap now. And next
year the focus will be on the other next-gen consoles, so you don't have to
worry about having too many consoles to divide your money on.

Really, I love my Dreamcast and love the stack of great games I have for it and
the handful of future games I'm going to buy... but Sega phasing out the
hardware is a good thing as far as I'm concerned.

Chief Squirrel

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Jan 31, 2001, 11:29:08 AM1/31/01
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In article <3a782fec$0$35019$4156...@news.netdirect.net>,

James Rector <jab...@voyager.net> wrote:
> People do want the latest and the greatest, so the DC will end up like
> the Atari 2600, Intellivision, Saturn, and other gaming consoles...in the
> closet.

[Snip]

Pity really, because it still has better ganes than the PSX2. If you like
games, when I can't see the logic in what you say. I still have a 3DO
console and it's still in some ways better than many newer consoles. I
would still argue that it's better than the PSX1

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Daniel Mercier

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Jan 31, 2001, 12:24:46 PM1/31/01
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Let's go shopping!

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Eric Meyers

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Jan 31, 2001, 12:36:43 PM1/31/01
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If I buy any console in the near future it'll be a GameCube. Not some piece
of crap PS2 with games filled with jaggies! Sony messed up bigtime and will
soon be overtaken by Nintendo and Xbox might even pull of some surprises.

Eric

Matt Greer

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Jan 31, 2001, 12:52:19 PM1/31/01
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In article <95976r$b6d$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
fas...@my-deja.com wrote:

> Prices are falling and people are unloading.

Why would people unload? My God, the Dreamcast saved me thousands of dollars
by not having to buy the Naomi version of MvC2. If people who currently own a
DC don't have at least one compelling reason to keep it, then I'm speechless.


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Matt Greer

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Jan 31, 2001, 1:16:27 PM1/31/01
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In article <4a45915e9...@argonet.co.uk>,
Chief Squirrel <spam...@red-squirrel.com> wrote:
> In article <3a782fec$0$35019$4156...@news.netdirect.net>,

> I still have a 3DO
> console and it's still in some ways better than many newer consoles. I
> would still argue that it's better than the PSX1
>

I wouldn't mind hearing that argument. I've never heard anyone say that
before. I also know diddly about the 3DO.


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Steven Hurdle

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Jan 31, 2001, 1:40:29 PM1/31/01
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 fas...@my-deja.com wrote:

>It looks like the rumors were correct. Sega lied last week when that article
>surfaced. This fully committed horseshit.

They didn't lie. They refused to comment on those reports. They are
committed to releasing DC games for at least the next 15-18 months.

>Why didn't they just fully admit the truth then, and show gamers some
>respect? This could have hurt any longevity they may have had left. The
>Set-top deal is already dead(in theory), believe me.

Why is the set-top deal dead? Pace certainly knew they planned to stop
sellin DC tech in a console form. Pace, selling its hardware at a profit,
probably prefers not to be competing with hardware being sold at a loss
(the console version).

>The negativity is spreading like a cancer. Who will buy any new DC games
>now? I won't.. Just wait til there all under $15.00 (probably by this Xmas
>for sure).

If a game's worth it, I'll buy it. All games drop to a budget price if
you wait a year or so, and this'll be no different.

>Just go thru the ads. What idiot would sign up with Seganet now?

http://www.segadojo.com/in-focus/index.shtml#980965849

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Steven Hurdle

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Jan 31, 2001, 2:01:33 PM1/31/01
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Matt Greer wrote:

>> Prices are falling and people are unloading.

>Why would people unload? My God, the Dreamcast saved me thousands of dollars
>by not having to buy the Naomi version of MvC2. If people who currently own a
>DC don't have at least one compelling reason to keep it, then I'm speechless.

Great post. I agree entirely.

I've loved very few consoles over the years. I loved the Intellivision
and still own one. I played the NES, Genesis, and SNES but did not love
them. I liked the Jaguar very much, and was sad to see it all but
disappear from the marketplace.

The Dreamcast, though, is like nothing else to me. My love for the
Dreamcast is far beyond my feelings for any other system. I'll hold onto
it forever, and I'm pleased to see there are games in the pipeline over
at least the next 18 months that I want to own. Jet Grind Radio 2!!!
Shenmue 2! Possibly Nights 2 and Panzer Dragoon Saga Eternal, for Dog's
sake!

Who knows, maybe the Pace STB initiative will be sufficiently
successful to justify further software development beyond 2002. Time will
tell. I know that, for me, it will never be over. I love the Dreamcast
far too much for that.

Raymond McKeithen II

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Jan 31, 2001, 2:37:02 PM1/31/01
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"Dave Whittle" <dwhi...@jupiterent.com> wrote in message
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> fas...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > Who will buy any new DC games
> > now? I won't..
>
> You must not like good games. I plan on buying PSO, Daytona 2001 (already
have
> the import), Sonic 2 and other great Dreamcast games. I don't care what
system
> it's on- a good game is a good game.
>

I don't think fassel plays any games at all. He just trolls these
newsgroups.

Why would he buy any new DC games? He's probably never owned a DC, though
he's claimed to have sold his about 10 times...

Dave, I agree with your post.

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anak...@my-deja.com

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Jan 31, 2001, 2:58:41 PM1/31/01
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> People do want the latest and the greatest, so the DC will end up
like the
> Atari 2600, Intellivision, Saturn, and other gaming consoles...in the
> closet.


Ummm....in my closet are my Genny and SNES. Permanently in my
entertainment center (and constantly in use) are my DC, 2600, and
Saturn.

anak...@my-deja.com

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Jan 31, 2001, 2:59:16 PM1/31/01
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> People do want the latest and the greatest, so the DC will end up
like the
> Atari 2600, Intellivision, Saturn, and other gaming consoles...in the
> closet.

Ummm....in my closet are my Genny and SNES. Permanently in my
entertainment center (and constantly in use) are my DC, 2600, and
Saturn.

fas...@my-deja.com

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Jan 31, 2001, 3:42:47 PM1/31/01
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You snipped the next sentence. I said wait and get them cheap. Check the ads
I said. Why buy VT2 or Crazy Taxi 2 for $39, when we can pay $19.99 2 months
later.

In article <3A783CD7...@jupiterent.com>,

tbe...@bellsouth.net

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Jan 31, 2001, 8:30:18 PM1/31/01
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damn look who comes crawling to the ps2 kissing ass because sega is fading
slowly. where is the "Oh Ps2 sucks ass" and "DC will never die, Ps2 is shitty" if
it's so shitty then don't fuckin' buy it. I for one am buying PS2 because i
simply want it for the games. Dc fuckin' rocks but you know shit happens. might
as well get the X-Box too because Microsoft will fuckin' win like they do in
every fuckin' thing. Microsoft sucks ass. Windows is glitchy and shitty. but
anyways what i'm trying to say is this: if you hate the ps2 then just don't buy
it and get gamecube when it comes out, and DC will always be one of the best
systems ever released but once it's gone it doesn't mean you can still play it,
it's not like there is a fucking time chip that will explode your DC. guess that
just sucks ass, no more NFL2k(enter year) games after 2k2, same goes for the nhl
series and NBA series or at least on the dreamcast.....mad i've fuckin' pissed. i
guess the good thing doesn't last as long as it should.

Led Mirage

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Feb 1, 2001, 3:12:20 AM2/1/01
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:27:04 -0500, Dave Whittle
<dwhi...@jupiterent.com> wrote:


>All systems will eventually be phased out. Stop thinking that systems will last
>forever... well, maybe the Gameboy. (just kidding)

Gameboy Advanced is essentially a new system. So Gameboy will be
phased out when GBA comes out.


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