PS2 Online Details & GT4 Online
bligmerk
if that can be imagined:
Several Japanese Websites have recently begun reporting the first
demos of Gran Turismo 4. The sites have posted that GT4 was shown
behind some very closed doors and that the game astounded the
previewers. They have said it looks stunning, and it's definitely,
definitely online.
Here are more details from the Sony PS2 Online conference:
In the future, when the HDD is released, developers will have the
ability to allow owners of their online compatible games to download
custom based "mods". Be it for weaponry, stage design, or some extreme
feature that alters the image of the game. Mods will be allowed for
download and sharing.
Initially, not all online games will require the HDD. So the worried
who believe you'll need to buy an HDD in order to play the PS2 online,
should relax. This was directly confirmed by Kaz Hirai himself. In the
future there will be titles that require the HDD, but that isn't for
quite some time, so for the most part the HDD is a luxury and not a
necessity.
Sony has given 3rd party browser developers all the rights to develop
their own browser without having to go through any complicated
observations by Sony. Sony is allowing them to freely develop the
browser software they choose, and they will not interfere. Here is Kaz
Hirai's comment on internet browsing with the PS2. "We are still
continuing to work with AOL. Right now the most important thing that
we're focusing on is making sure that we get the connectivity to AOL
going on the start-up disc. And that has been our primary focus. As
far as browsing on the Web is concerned, I think we may have talked
about this before. If there is an application that can be published on
the PS2 that is a Web browser, there's certainly nothing stopping that
from being technically feasible. But we don't know if first parties or
third parties would view browsing the Internet as an entertainment
proposal at this point in time."
The Network Adapter/56k modem will retail for $39.99 and will be
released later this August. The Network Adapter acts as a 56k modem
and Ethernet adapter, which will allow users to plug in their existing
broadband connection (Cable, DSL, T1, etc) into the high-speed
Ethernet port. Sony insists that every ISP provider works with the
network adapter, no matter the size of its corporation and reach. If
you have some unheard of DSL or Cable connection, chances are it will
work with the PS2. A manual, an introduction/installation disk, online
game demos (presumably quirky puzzle games), and registration and
connectivity features/options for America Online, Earthlink, AT&T
Worldnet Service, SBC Prodigy, and Sympatico (among possible others)
will be included with the network adapter. The network adapter has
been slightly remodeled; you no longer must attach it into the HDD,
but you still have the option to do so.
Sony states that 12 online compatible PS2 titles will be on the
market ready to go. The games of course include SOCOM: Navy Seals,
Twisted Metal: Black Online, and possibly an update disk to Frequency
(which had its online mode nixed at the last second). An undisclosed
version of NFL GameDay is supposedly running internally at Sony, via
online as well.
The cost of most of the online titles will be free of charge, with
the exception of massively multi-player RPGs such as Final Fantasy XI.
Basically, gamers have very few, if any, things to worry and ponder
over. Sony seems to have everything under control. Beta testing is
scheduled to begin later this month, says Sony. A lucky 1000
participants will be chosen to experience a new movement in console
gaming.
At the Game Developers Conference later this March, two Sony
representatives will attend to discuss more specifics. The biggest of
all announcements will come at E3.
Adam Smith
"Microsoft Engineering Tactical Operations Office"
aka "MeToo" something new to clone ;-)
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RickB
"Adam Smith" <nom...@stopspam.com> wrote in message
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> The ideas developed by and outlined by SONY will give the
> "Microsoft Engineering Tactical Operations Office"
> aka "MeToo" something new to clone ;-)
>
Was exactly what I was thinking also.
RickB
RickB
"Stu" <Ask if you really need it> wrote in message
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> "bligmerk" wrote:
> >
> > Here are more details from the Sony PS2 Online conference:
>
>
> extra online fees for some games? Ugh. Sorry, Sony, thanks
> but no thanks.
>
Well $40 'bucks' for the ethernet adapter and $10/month for online gaming
isn't asking too much. Or can you run a server to accommodate a few million
people for cheaper.
RickB
sonicgroove
Bondo
> isn't asking too much. Or can you run a server to accommodate a few million
> people for cheaper.
>
> RickB
$40 is a rip off for an ethernet adapter just like $60 was for the DC, the
hardware to make it isn't that expensive. All it does is allow you to hook
an Ethernet cable up and then have it translate the information for the
system to use. It doesn't do the actual connecting to the internet as the
software combined with the broadband modem service do that.
OscarMyers
Actually they have, I can name 2 original ideas from microsoft
Clippy the paper clip
Microsoft Bob.
CygnusX-1
regarding online games soon too. M$ has been pretty quiet, maybe
they will wait for E3. Sega has been quiet too. Could M$/Sega be
up to something here? E3 should be very interesting this year.
Cygnus
The Bringer of Balance
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Brian Deplae
wrote:
>$40 bucks for a ethernet adapter, and then having to pay
>extra online fees for some games? Ugh. Sorry, Sony, thanks
>but no thanks.
I agree about the monthly online fees. I refuse to pay them. So,
that just means there is a small handful of games I don't play. Big
deal.
Now $40 for the ethernet adapter isn't really that bad considering the
DC one was $60. The PS2 isn't a PC. Specialized hardware costs a bit
more.
--
Brian Deplae
Being ignorant of how things are done is one thing,
knowing how things should be done but choosing not to
follow the established rules is quite another.
HAHAHAHA
this august!! Only online game scheduled to come out on XBullOX is
the old PC port, Unreal Tournie...hahaha
HAHAHAHA
Bondo
> 56K modems and ethernet adapters each cost less than $5 to
> make. They need a new design process if the specialized
> hardware costs them another $30. I mean, c'mon, this is
> Sony we're talking about.
>
> And that's what annoys me about it. Sure it's cheaper
> than the price of a single game, but when online gaming
> has such a potentially huge future, why screw it up by
> gouging customers on it? Sell it for around cost, and
> you'll get a lot more customers, which in turn will get
> a lot more people interested in it because so many other
> people are gaming online. Establish a reputation as the
> console to get for online gaming, and you'll make back
> in spades any lost profits from selling the adapter
> more cheaply by the increase in games and consoles sold.
Or better yet, package it in with the first big title. Nintendo tends to
package things anyway, rumble pak with Star Fox, Expansion Pak with DK64,
and Transfer Pak with Pokémon Stadium. I think there is a good chance that
there would be a package deal to put it with PSO and still sell the game for
$50. I guess the only problem there is that they have the two different
connections so you'd have to offer PSO modem and PSO ethernet and that would
be too confusing.
But yes, selling the adapter at those abusive prices isn't right.
Especially when you consider that I never once used my ethernet on my DC for
a game. There were about 6 that supported it, the first three I didn't care
about and the forth I couldn't get working so I just gave up.
Zackman
> Word is coming out that GT4 is online, looking much better than GT3,
> if that can be imagined:
Oh, it can be easily imagined if you've played most Xbox titles.
> Several Japanese Websites have recently begun reporting the first
> demos of Gran Turismo 4. The sites have posted that GT4 was shown
> behind some very closed doors and that the game astounded the
> previewers.
Are you sure the doors weren't only partially closed? Maybe they left them
open a crack for ventilation?
> They have said it looks stunning, and it's definitely,
> definitely online.
PS2 fansites in Japan say a PS2 game looks stunning? And is it definitely
DEFINITELY online, or just definitely online?.
> In the future, when the HDD is released, developers will have the
> ability to allow owners of their online compatible games to download
> custom based "mods". Be it for weaponry, stage design, or some extreme
> feature that alters the image of the game. Mods will be allowed for
> download and sharing.
That's nice. Been part of the Xbox stragey all along, and the first ever
console game add-on pack (DOA3 extras disc) is coming out next month.
> In the
> future there will be titles that require the HDD, but that isn't for
> quite some time, so for the most part the HDD is a luxury and not a
> necessity.
So much for those add-ons then.
> Sony has given 3rd party browser developers all the rights to develop
> their own browser without having to go through any complicated
> observations by Sony. Sony is allowing them to freely develop the
> browser software they choose, and they will not interfere.
Ahhh, the PS2PC dream is so close to fruition I can almost taste it. Hey
Bligmerk, wasn't it you who was just saying WebTV was lame? LOL!
> If there is an application that can be published on
> the PS2 that is a Web browser, there's certainly nothing stopping that
> from being technically feasible. But we don't know if first parties or
> third parties would view browsing the Internet as an entertainment
> proposal at this point in time."
Wow, Kaz the Spaz showing some sense. Maybe the winds of change are blowing.
But that hardly sounds like a ringing endoresement for 3rd parties to
develop a browser.
> Sony states that 12 online compatible PS2 titles will be on the
> market ready to go. The games of course include SOCOM: Navy Seals
This looked and played like dogshit at E3 last year. Hope it's undergone
some major cleaning up.
> Twisted Metal: Black Online
Yay! Buy the game again just for online play!
> and possibly an update disk to Frequency
> (which had its online mode nixed at the last second). An undisclosed
> version of NFL GameDay is supposedly running internally at Sony, via
> online as well.
That's all well and good, but Sony is making the same mistake Sega did by
just throwing online out there and letting developers deal with the
logisitics of it.
> The cost of most of the online titles will be free of charge
That's a genuinely smart move. Of course most simply means more than half.
> with
> the exception of massively multi-player RPGs such as Final Fantasy XI.
> Basically, gamers have very few, if any, things to worry and ponder
> over.
But this isn't going to make the online gaming experience any easier than it
was with the Dreamcast. Less so, in fact, because the modem/BBA is an
add-on, and as such is doomed to miniscule market penetration. If the Xbox
can make online gaming invisible to the user - true plug and play - it will
still become the de facto standard, by virtue of that and the inclusion of
the BBA/hard drive in the box.
> The biggest of
> all announcements will come at E3.
It's going to be a verrrrry interesting E3 this year.
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Brian Deplae
wrote:
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>"Brian Deplae" wrote:
>>
>> Now $40 for the ethernet adapter isn't really that bad considering the
>> DC one was $60. The PS2 isn't a PC. Specialized hardware costs a bit
>> more.
>
>And that's what annoys me about it. Sure it's cheaper
>than the price of a single game, but when online gaming
>has such a potentially huge future, why screw it up by
>gouging customers on it? Sell it for around cost, and
>you'll get a lot more customers, which in turn will get
>a lot more people interested in it because so many other
>people are gaming online. Establish a reputation as the
>console to get for online gaming, and you'll make back
>in spades any lost profits from selling the adapter
>more cheaply by the increase in games and consoles sold.
Something I didn't mention is that this is going to be a relatively
low volume item. They're not going to sell millions of them.
Probably in the 10's of thousands range. This ads to the cost too.
PC NICs and modems are dirt cheap because not only are they very
common hardware but are produced in much higher quantities.
Harry Al-Shakarchi
HAHAHAHA <HAHA...@HEHEHEHE.HOHOHOH> wrote:
> Hehehe cool...way to go Sony!! Online games gonna rock on PS2
> this august!! Only online game scheduled to come out on XBullOX is
> the old PC port, Unreal Tournie...hahaha
Unreal Championship is hardly a port. Unlike UT for PS2. BWAHAHAHAHA!
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Max Lords
have looked it up first.
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tedb512
> "bligmerk" <zplo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Word is coming out that GT4 is online, looking much better than GT3,
> > if that can be imagined:
>
> Oh, it can be easily imagined if you've played most Xbox titles.
I don't own either a PS2 or an XBox, but I have yet to see an XBox
game that looked as good and varied as GT3.
Phillip Whiteside
PAW75