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Zhentil

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Feb 28, 2001, 2:14:05 AM2/28/01
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I dug out my old Underworld CD (with Underworld 1 and 2) and I seem to have
problems installing it. The installer program has a bit of trouble realizing
that C has any free space on it. When I simply copy the UW or UW2 directory to
my hard drive, the configuration program says "Free hard drive space: 0" when
trying to write a new configuration file, and the game itself has hard disk
errors. This baffles me, since I have well enough free space to run the game
(over 1gb.. only 2mb is required).

Anyone have any clue if the problem can be remedied? I assume it's just because
the game is too old, and the installers were released before hard drives were as
big as they are now, but it's still slightly confusing. Thanks in advance.

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Dominus Stultus of Class Stulte Infestus,
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Bateau

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Feb 28, 2001, 10:32:21 AM2/28/01
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On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:14:05 -0500 "Zhentil" <zhe...@mindspring.com>
wrote:

>I dug out my old Underworld CD (with Underworld 1 and 2) and I seem to have
>problems installing it. The installer program has a bit of trouble realizing
>that C has any free space on it. When I simply copy the UW or UW2 directory to
>my hard drive, the configuration program says "Free hard drive space: 0" when
>trying to write a new configuration file, and the game itself has hard disk
>errors. This baffles me, since I have well enough free space to run the game
>(over 1gb.. only 2mb is required).
>
>Anyone have any clue if the problem can be remedied? I assume it's just because
>the game is too old, and the installers were released before hard drives were as
>big as they are now, but it's still slightly confusing. Thanks in advance.

If you're copying it over from the CD remember to remove "Read Only"
from all the files, otherwise it will be unable to modify the
configuration file and assume there's no disk space.
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Zhentil

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Mar 1, 2001, 3:52:52 AM3/1/01
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Thanks, that helped! However, maybe someone can now help me with another
problem. This is the strangest problem I've ever encountered, so even if no-one
can help me, maybe at least someone can be entertained by the existance of this
problem.

Now, whenever I run DOS games through windows that use the Mouse (ultima 7, 8,
underworld, warcraft, and descent are the only games that come to mind, but it's
happened with others, too), I'll be playing for a few seconds, everything will
be fine. Then, all of the sudden, the cursor flips out. It moves to the farthest
corners and the effects of both mouse buttons appear out of nowhere. The
slightest movement of the mouse causes this spaz to occur.

(Example - Descent: the ship spins around mercilessly, firing off both lasers
and moving forward, the two effects of the mouse buttons. Note: This happens
when I simply try to look around with the mouse)

When I quit the program and return to windows, the cursor dances around the
screen, the right-click menu pops up, my icons are moved around. It's basically
the same case -- by simply moving the mouse around in my hand, the computer
somehow interprets that as me moving the thing fast and pushing the buttons like
a madman.

So far, I've come up with a few temporary solutions:

1. Switch the mouse to the serial port. As it stands, it connects through the
ps/2 (mini-din) port. However, when I use a little ps/2->serial connector and
connect it through com1, it doesn't do this problem (but affects windows in a
few ways, which I won't get into). However, due to the adverse effects on
windows, I don't like this solution (also, for some reason, last night, it
wasn't working.. either my com1 port is broken or my connector is.. the com port
is enabled as 38F, too.. maybe it just doesn't get enough power.. I have so many
devices in my computer these days.. anyway.. I digress)

2. Boot to DOS. This works. However, there are a few, obvious cons. First and
foremost, it's quite inconvenient. Sometimes, the need to play a game arises
when I am downloading a large file. Also, I don't have DOS drivers for my
soundcard, and am simply too lazy (and determined there's another solution) to
bother with it. And lastly, ultima 7 and 8 run alot more smoother with the new
programs that let them run natively under windows.

So, if anyone's ever heard of this extremely strange problem, I'd appreciate
info on it. I _do_ recall reading something about it on a forum long ago, but
there was no known fix, and they didn't know what caused it. For further
information, I've tried a few different mice/mouses, so it isn't the device
itself. Whew..

And I just found out how I could revisit some of my favorite games, only to be
reminded about my gimpy mouse :) Ah well.

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zhentil; zhe...@mindspring.com

Bishop of the First Diocese of Astrofungus,
Dominus Stultus of Class Stulte Infestus,
and Field Marshal General of the S.S.A.D. (#0001)

| If you're copying it over from the CD remember to remove "Read Only"

Just M

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Jun 5, 2001, 2:13:08 AM6/5/01
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I seem to remember a friend having a similar problem a year or so ago. But the
problem occured after he had improperly installed a joystick, and there was a
conflict with the two devices - don't remember whether it was IRQ, memory, or
something else .... I do remember that uninstalling, editing the registry, and
reinstalling the joystick solved his problem. I don't know that doing this would
help you though. Just a thought - have you checked your drivers (even if it uses the
native windows drivers)? Maybe reinstall from the manufacturers site, or check for
updated drivers or known issues ? Or maybe try another mouse ?

zhentil

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Jun 5, 2001, 12:06:48 PM6/5/01
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> Or maybe try another mouse ?

Yeah. I bought a USB mouse. Fixed the problem :)

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> > ===
> > zhentil; zhe...@mindspring.com
> >
> > Bishop of the First Diocese of Astrofungus,
> > Dominus Stultus of Class Stulte Infestus,
> > and Field Marshal General of the S.S.A.D. (#0001)

Jeez. Tohoho! :D


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