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Kane

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Aug 21, 2001, 8:00:43 AM8/21/01
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<vwo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I tried this program and it does work :)
>
> It 100% cleared my harddrive of any incriminating files, and like anyone I
occassionaly surf a bit of porn at work, but cant risk if someone checks my
deleted files, which remain on my harddrive !

Hey, i got an even better program. It's free and will GARANTEE 100% removal
of any information that can incriminate you. It's called format.exe and even
comes free with windows!

Kane


Damian

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Aug 21, 2001, 12:25:25 PM8/21/01
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With the right software, even a formatted drive can be (at least) partially
recovered.

Damian.
http://www.ctlsoftware.co.uk


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Archangel

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Aug 21, 2001, 4:24:38 PM8/21/01
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Yep - Norton among others has got something for that I think.

FDisk should do the trick though :o)

Archangel[ShaMaN]


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Kane

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Aug 21, 2001, 5:49:22 PM8/21/01
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A low level format is complete though. Pity windows can't do them...

Kane


Dale Smith

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Aug 21, 2001, 5:55:56 PM8/21/01
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The official government method is equivalent to deleting, writing all 1's
and 0's, deleting, writing all 0's and 1's, deleting, repeat 10 more times
and then drill holes in the disk or placing in a compactor.

Rule of thumb, anything you don't want found on your hard drive or
disk.....don't put there....It can be retrieved.
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RedKnight

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Aug 21, 2001, 10:05:58 PM8/21/01
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if you fdisk and then format it, nothing can be retrieved from the hard
drive, not even the programs that government use's


Damian

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Aug 22, 2001, 4:06:45 AM8/22/01
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That may be true, but would you want to do that and then re-install your
regular software every time you d/led something that was just a little bit
dodgy?
I think the point of the advertised software was meant to mean that you can
destroy just the selected files, not the whole lot.

Damian Steele
http://www.ctlsoftware.co.uk


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Kane

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Aug 22, 2001, 4:02:30 AM8/22/01
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Then work it out in your head quickly, just partition your drive to give you
a drive letter for you dodgy stuff. Then you can format that as necessary.
Not that i have experiance of course.

Kane


Mikhail Polshaw

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Aug 22, 2001, 7:09:32 AM8/22/01
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Anyway it is still possible to retrive data from an fdisk'd and formatted
disk. Using magnetoresistive microscopy (or somesuch thing) even a formatted
disk can be rebuilt. For that matter, data from a disk smahed up with a
hammer can be recovered too...

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Rick McGreal

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Aug 22, 2001, 8:18:16 AM8/22/01
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Kane <matthew...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> A low level format is complete though. Pity windows can't do them...

No but you should be able to do it through your bios screen (pressing DEL
on startup)


StevieD

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Aug 22, 2001, 9:24:19 AM8/22/01
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As long as you're not doing anything illegal (including pictures of underage
subjects) you don't have much to worry about. In fact, i think it would be
hilarious for someone to spend a ton of money on magnetoresistive microscopy
(or somesuch) and slowly the data emerges: a zoomed-in closeup of <pick
your favorite genitalia> .... Woohoo ...

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SoS

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Aug 22, 2001, 10:18:21 AM8/22/01
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<snip...> and slowly the data emerges: a zoomed-in closeup of <pick

| your favorite genitalia> .... Woohoo ...

LOL !

Mooseman

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Aug 22, 2001, 9:24:50 PM8/22/01
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That is NOT true. Due to the medium, anything that was ever written to the
drive will still be there (partial bits) due to the magnetic surface.
That's why the government/any high security industry writes the 1's and 0's
over the entire drive so many times. Doing this will cover most if not all
of the magnetic surface. The holes or compacting (both distortion
techniques) make it even harder to read.

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Jan Jungnickel

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Aug 24, 2001, 4:37:42 PM8/24/01
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"Archangel" <boombo...@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Yep - Norton among others has got something for that I think.
>
> FDisk should do the trick though :o)

Well, fdisk is even worse as it doesn't delete ANY data except the partition
table.

Jan Jungnickel

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Aug 24, 2001, 4:38:44 PM8/24/01
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"Rick McGreal" <tri...@mynock.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Well, i hope no actual BIOS will EVER have such a Function. Or do you _want_
to render your Harddisk unusuable?

Jan Jungnickel

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Aug 24, 2001, 4:40:36 PM8/24/01
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"RedKnight" <redkn...@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> if you fdisk and then format it, nothing can be retrieved from the hard
> drive, not even the programs that government use's

fdisk'ed and formatted HD's _do_ still carry about 99.99% of the previous
existing data with them.

uray

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Aug 24, 2001, 5:37:50 PM8/24/01
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"Jan Jungnickel" <usenet...@jungnickel.com> wrote in message
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It used to be a common BIOS function, back in the days of MFM and RLL
drives. Most modern IDE drives can't be low level formatted, most SCSI's
can though and a low level format *is* built in to my SCSI BIOS.

uray


Message

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Aug 25, 2001, 7:11:09 AM8/25/01
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There also are certain companies who could restore long-deleted data from
disks for normal users, as long as you pay enough! :-)

> That is NOT true. Due to the medium, anything that was ever written to
the
> drive will still be there (partial bits) due to the magnetic surface.
> That's why the government/any high security industry writes the 1's and
0's
> over the entire drive so many times. Doing this will cover most if not
all
> of the magnetic surface. The holes or compacting (both distortion
> techniques) make it even harder to read.
>

Larry Caldwell

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Aug 29, 2001, 10:11:17 PM8/29/01
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In article <9m03mj$1lhl$1...@mimas.salford.ac.uk>,
mikhail...@virgin.net writes:

> Anyway it is still possible to retrive data from an fdisk'd and formatted
> disk. Using magnetoresistive microscopy (or somesuch thing) even a formatted
> disk can be rebuilt. For that matter, data from a disk smahed up with a
> hammer can be recovered too...

If you are using Windows it's considerably easier than that. Fdisk just
rewrites the boot sector and partition table, while format just rebuilds
the File Allocation Table and directory structure and writes new sector
ID codes. Neither program overwrites any data on the vast majority of
the hard drive. Just do a sector by sector read, and there is your data.

If you run WipeDisk even once, recovering the data becomes a whole lot
more difficult and expensive. Wipedisk does a sector by sector
interleaved random write of the entire drive, including unformatted and
unpartitioned sectors.

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