THIEF ONE CRASH!! HELP ME..OH GOD HELP ME!!!
Webservant©
> Hi all,
>
> I'm having a problem with Thief one. It keeps crashing to the desktop.
> Its driving me nuts. I love the game and just when it get interesting
> it crashes. I've rebooted I've shut off all running devices. I've even
> tried my patented mystical computer dance to make this game work. And
> all to no avail. 8(
>
>
> And if I do need to update drivers please include the website, and some
> direction as to how to update the drivers. I've never done that before,
> and I'm afraid i'm going to destroy my computer.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Eric
Even BRAND NEW PC's often come with drivers that are out of date, so its
very likely that yours are. Updating a driver is pretty simple, and a good
place to start. The NUMBER 1 tip is to make sure you:
A. Have the original driver on disk or CD - just in case
and B. Make sure you select the right driver to update.
Just go to the website and follow the instructions. Here is a link for your
32 MB Diamond Viper V770D:
http://www.driverforum.com/video/7529.html
http://www.s3.com/default.asp?menu=support&sub_menu=Graphics&item=drivers&product=Viper_V770_Ultra
Have fun.
--
Warren Wurzburger
Online Options Web Design
http://www.onlineoptions.net
ERIC EMERSON
I'm having a problem with Thief one. It keeps crashing to the desktop.
Its driving me nuts. I love the game and just when it get interesting
it crashes. I've rebooted I've shut off all running devices. I've even
tried my patented mystical computer dance to make this game work. And
all to no avail. 8(
I feel like I keep getting thrown out on my ass. 8)
Can anyone help me with this problem? It would be greatly appreciated.
I have a 32 MB Diamond Viper V770D Ultra NVIDIA video card
Is that the problem? I just bought this computer about 5 months ago.
Are the video drivers bad already? Geesh!!
ERIC EMERSON
I updated my video drivers (with your help) and updated my DirectX as
well...AND THE GAME STILL CRASHES TO THE DESKTOP. 8( Crap. What the
hell could be crashing this thing? It's driving me nuts.
Anyone else out there that can help?
Oh whoah is me.
Eric
WebservantŠ wrote:
>
> ERIC EMERSON wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm having a problem with Thief one. It keeps crashing to the desktop.
> > Its driving me nuts. I love the game and just when it get interesting
> > it crashes. I've rebooted I've shut off all running devices. I've even
> > tried my patented mystical computer dance to make this game work. And
> > all to no avail. 8(
> >
> >
> > And if I do need to update drivers please include the website, and some
> > direction as to how to update the drivers. I've never done that before,
> > and I'm afraid i'm going to destroy my computer.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Eric
>
pka...@my-deja.com
Looking Glass went belly up, but I vaguely recall problems with the
unpatched version and the TNT chipset. You might try a search on
Download.com.
In article <3985BB0B...@home.com>,
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
ERIC EMERSON
version. Man is this thing buggy for everyone?? The patch is version
1.33. And it says it will only update 1.14 and my version is 1.0
I SWEAR TO GOD I'M READY TO PULL MY FREAKIN HAIR OUT!!!! 8)
SOMEBODY....ANYBODY... HELP!!!!
Eric
(thanks to the guys who responded already)
Webservant©
> Actually I got the patch on the adreneline vault. But it won't patch my
> version. Man is this thing buggy for everyone?? The patch is version
> 1.33. And it says it will only update 1.14 and my version is 1.0
>
> I SWEAR TO GOD I'M READY TO PULL MY FREAKIN HAIR OUT!!!! 8)
>
> SOMEBODY....ANYBODY... HELP!!!!
>
> Eric
>
Kevin posted this, and it may be worth a try:
From: "Kevin Goodsell" <good...@bridgernet.com>
Sounds like you are crashing at the moment it should play the intro video.
Did you install the Intel video codec? Try this: Open the file called
cam.cfg and add the line "skip_intro" (without the quotes) at the end of the
file. Save and close the file, then try running the game. My guess is that
this will get you to the menu, but not much farther. As soon as you try to
play the game it will try to show another video and crash again. But at
least you'll know what the problem is.
If you still don't get to the menu, then the problem must be elsewhere. You
didn't mention your DirectX version. Thief 2 requires version 7, and of
course you need DX 7 compatible video card drivers (the new ones you got
should be DX 7 compatible, but it can't hurt to check).
You also should try and uninstall and CLEAN reinatall - In other words, boot
your PC, do CTRL+ALT+DEL and END TASK on EVERYTHINg except "systray" and
"explorer", then to the install. This is especially true if you are running
Norton.
You can also try reinstalling Windows. I had some luck with that too.
good luck!
Webservant©
> Eric, there is no version 1.0 (not even a pirated pre-release as far as I
> know). You are probably looking at the properties of the .exe file, and that
> version is incorrect. You need to Alt-Tab out of the game and check the icon
> on the task bar.
>
> Also, I would try disabling hardware sound acceleration is you are using it.
> I think I've heard of these "delayed crashes" (after several minutes of
> play) being caused by sound hardware. The thing I said that is quoted below
> probably doesn't apply to you if you are experiencing delayed crashes, which
> means you probably watched the videos without any problems. Some people have
> a problem with playing the videos. That's what I was referring to.
Thanks Kevin, and hope it was OK for me to quote you. I should have ended your
part better. The below was my idea, in case it fries your PC :-)
>
> >You also should try and uninstall and CLEAN reinatall - In other words,
> boot
> >your PC, do CTRL+ALT+DEL and END TASK on EVERYTHINg except "systray" and
> >"explorer", then to the install. This is especially true if you are running
> >Norton.
> >
> >You can also try reinstalling Windows. I had some luck with that too.
> >
> >good luck!
Hope some of this helped.
Kevin Goodsell
know). You are probably looking at the properties of the .exe file, and that
version is incorrect. You need to Alt-Tab out of the game and check the icon
on the task bar.
Also, I would try disabling hardware sound acceleration is you are using it.
I think I've heard of these "delayed crashes" (after several minutes of
play) being caused by sound hardware. The thing I said that is quoted below
probably doesn't apply to you if you are experiencing delayed crashes, which
means you probably watched the videos without any problems. Some people have
a problem with playing the videos. That's what I was referring to.
-Kevin
WebservantŠ wrote in message <3985FC82...@onlineoptions.net>...
>ERIC EMERSON wrote:
>
>> Actually I got the patch on the adreneline vault. But it won't patch my
>> version. Man is this thing buggy for everyone?? The patch is version
>> 1.33. And it says it will only update 1.14 and my version is 1.0
>>
>> I SWEAR TO GOD I'M READY TO PULL MY FREAKIN HAIR OUT!!!! 8)
>>
>> SOMEBODY....ANYBODY... HELP!!!!
>>
>> Eric
>>
>
>Kevin posted this, and it may be worth a try:
>
> From: "Kevin Goodsell" <good...@bridgernet.com>
>
>Sounds like you are crashing at the moment it should play the intro video.
>Did you install the Intel video codec? Try this: Open the file called
>cam.cfg and add the line "skip_intro" (without the quotes) at the end of
the
>file. Save and close the file, then try running the game. My guess is that
>this will get you to the menu, but not much farther. As soon as you try to
>play the game it will try to show another video and crash again. But at
>least you'll know what the problem is.
>
>If you still don't get to the menu, then the problem must be elsewhere. You
>didn't mention your DirectX version. Thief 2 requires version 7, and of
>course you need DX 7 compatible video card drivers (the new ones you got
>should be DX 7 compatible, but it can't hurt to check).
>
>You also should try and uninstall and CLEAN reinatall - In other words,
boot
>your PC, do CTRL+ALT+DEL and END TASK on EVERYTHINg except "systray" and
>"explorer", then to the install. This is especially true if you are running
>Norton.
>
>You can also try reinstalling Windows. I had some luck with that too.
>
>good luck!
>
>--
ERIC EMERSON
just crashes to the desktop. I have directX7a.
Is there any fix or driver update for my sound card? I have a Turtle
Beach Montego II A3D 320V Sound Card.
Does anyone else have a solution. ...(big tears in eyes)...Please?
My Thief version says. Version 1,0,0,0
And when I try to use the patch I get an error message that says.
"Cannot patch this version of game
This patch expects version 1.14 to be the installed version.
The version currently installed is 1.33"
I don't get it. How can the game be version 1,0,0,0 and the patch can
only fix version 1.14?
How can I upgrade my version? So I can patch it?
Eric
ERIC EMERSON
after a few minutes of play. And its always int he same area the
freakin cathedral. Also in the return to the cathedral. Maybe its the
damn church thats doing it. Oh and my DirectX is 7a.
Thanks for the input.
Any other advice on my situation?
Eric
southern thunder
ryno
"ERIC EMERSON" <ec...@home.com> wrote in message
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ERIC EMERSON
I just got the patch to install correctly and the damn thing still
crashes to the desktop. Is the cathedral buggy for anyone else?
In the first cathedral and the return to the cathedral is where I have
the crashes.
I think i'm going to have to skip over both of those missions. Man that
sucks.
Anyone else have any other ideas on what to do, or have I run out of
options?
I'm a little wary about getting Thief 2 if it has the same problems. I
can't even get throught to Eidos for tech help. 8(
Thanks to everyone who reponded to my cry for help. 8)
Eric
James Warren
to change some things. Nothing serious.
First I was running dual monitors via Windows 98. Unfortunately Windows
doesn't support OpenGL in dual monitor mode. So.... out came monitor number
two.
Next I had to reinstall the game, after a total delete. This reinstalled
the Codec drivers and all
Next I went to Microsoft and downloaded the most recent version of DirectX.
I know a lot of this is redundant, however with my experience I couldn't
help but mention that dual monitors won't play the game. If you are running
dual monitor support, you'll need to remove one to play the game. That's
remove the card and all. Sometimes the obvious stuff is where we fail to
look.
Again, this is offered only if you have dual monitors.
My game runs fine now. But you really need the most recent versions of the
game components.
I believe I have the patch laying around too if you need it. It's for the
most ancient of the Theif versions. I got this game the day it came out on
the shelves.
Good luck.
"ERIC EMERSON" <ec...@home.com> wrote in message
news:3984E87D...@home.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I'm having a problem with Thief one. It keeps crashing to the desktop.
> Its driving me nuts. I love the game and just when it get interesting
> it crashes. I've rebooted I've shut off all running devices. I've even
> tried my patented mystical computer dance to make this game work. And
> all to no avail. 8(
>
> I feel like I keep getting thrown out on my ass. 8)
>
>
>
> Can anyone help me with this problem? It would be greatly appreciated.
>
> I have a 32 MB Diamond Viper V770D Ultra NVIDIA video card
>
> Is that the problem? I just bought this computer about 5 months ago.
> Are the video drivers bad already? Geesh!!
>
pka...@my-deja.com
error message read? Like "Thief.exe" caused a general protection fault
in xxxxx.dll. Or no error message at all?
That might clue us in as to where your problem is coming from.
In article <398653E2...@home.com>,
Kevin Goodsell
(it uses DirectX).
-Kevin
James Warren wrote in message <3986...@news.integrityonline.com>...
Kevin Goodsell
-Kevin
ERIC EMERSON wrote in message <398653E2...@home.com>...
Jez
installed. A most curious phenomenon, unless you installed that patch
earlier without noticing or someone did it for you..
Jez
"Bolt cutters on stand-by"
ERIC EMERSON
pinching butts and the next I'm staring at my desktop.
Usually I jump up and down and my face turns all purple with rage. 8)
Can you help?
Eric
pka...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> Sorry if I missed anything you wrote earlier, but what does the exact
> error message read? Like "Thief.exe" caused a general protection fault
> in xxxxx.dll. Or no error message at all?
>
> That might clue us in as to where your problem is coming from.
>
> In article <398653E2...@home.com>,
> ERIC EMERSON <ec...@home.com> wrote:
ERIC EMERSON
hope is lost.
Eric
Kevin Goodsell wrote:
>
> Did you try my suggestion of disabling hardware sound acceleration yet?
>
> -Kevin
>
> ERIC EMERSON wrote in message <398653E2...@home.com>...
ERIC EMERSON
Eric
southern thunder wrote:
>
> dude, buy thief gold, and all problems are solved!
> ryno
>
> "ERIC EMERSON" <ec...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:39864B49...@home.com...
ERIC EMERSON
no avail.
Thanks anyways.
Eric
James Warren wrote:
>
> I had crash problems with mine. I'm not sure what your set up is, but I had
> to change some things. Nothing serious.
>
> First I was running dual monitors via Windows 98. Unfortunately Windows
> doesn't support OpenGL in dual monitor mode. So.... out came monitor number
> two.
>
> Next I had to reinstall the game, after a total delete. This reinstalled
> the Codec drivers and all
>
> Next I went to Microsoft and downloaded the most recent version of DirectX.
>
> I know a lot of this is redundant, however with my experience I couldn't
> help but mention that dual monitors won't play the game. If you are running
> dual monitor support, you'll need to remove one to play the game. That's
> remove the card and all. Sometimes the obvious stuff is where we fail to
> look.
>
> Again, this is offered only if you have dual monitors.
>
> My game runs fine now. But you really need the most recent versions of the
> game components.
>
> I believe I have the patch laying around too if you need it. It's for the
> most ancient of the Theif versions. I got this game the day it came out on
> the shelves.
>
> Good luck.
>
> "ERIC EMERSON" <ec...@home.com> wrote in message
Webservant©
> Thanks man but I have only one monitor. I did all you did too. But to
> no avail.
>
> Thanks anyways.
>
> Eric
>
Have you reinstalled Windows?? That was a fix that did have an effect for me as
well.
Warren
Kevin Goodsell
of the box. Mine is that way. Looks like this one is as well. So in other
words, forget the patch and work on tracking down the source of the problem.
Have you tried software rendering? If that works then you can be fairly sure
the problem is related to video hardware. Otherwise, sound hardware is the
most likely suspect.
-Kevin
Jez wrote in message ...
Kyloe
DirectX 6 drivers for video and sound.
Webservant© schrieb in Nachricht <3987ADE5...@onlineoptions.net>...
Jez
CDs are consequently you always got the 'first' version and always had to
patch. Ah well, you learn something new every day :Ź)
Jez
"Bolt cutters on stand-by"
Kevin Goodsell wrote in message ...
Nolan Void
wrote: <SNIP>
>Oh whoah is me.
I loved your pun but wondered if it was intended?
Now, don't laugh, but since you've tried everything else but
haven't mentioned trying this, have a go...
I have had this problem three or four times over the last year
or so. In each case I was dumped back at the desktop without any
error message. The solution in my case?........
I cleaned the CD and the game sprang back to life. Hope it gees
you up (pun intended)
ERIC EMERSON
applications and files? And IF i reinstall windows shouldn't I just
upgrade to Windows 2000? I'm pretty new to the PC but I am somewhat
computer saavy. But I have never reinstalled windows on anything. What
would be the first step to reinstalling windows?
Eric
WebservantŠ wrote:
>
> ERIC EMERSON wrote:
>
> > Thanks man but I have only one monitor. I did all you did too. But to
> > no avail.
> >
> > Thanks anyways.
> >
> > Eric
> >
>
ERIC EMERSON
DirectX7a? How do you know what sound and video drivers are compatible
with which DirectX drivers?
This is all very confusing.
Eric
Kyloe wrote:
>
> Reinstall Windows and use DirectX 6 off the Thief disc. Also look for
> DirectX 6 drivers for video and sound.
>
> Webservant© schrieb in Nachricht <3987ADE5...@onlineoptions.net>...
> >
ERIC EMERSON
Eric
Kevin Goodsell wrote:
>
> Not at all. There are a good number of copies that are already patched out
> of the box. Mine is that way. Looks like this one is as well. So in other
> words, forget the patch and work on tracking down the source of the problem.
> Have you tried software rendering? If that works then you can be fairly sure
> the problem is related to video hardware. Otherwise, sound hardware is the
> most likely suspect.
>
> -Kevin
>
> Jez wrote in message ...
> >Curiously that error message is telling you that you already have the patch
> >installed. A most curious phenomenon, unless you installed that patch
> >earlier without noticing or someone did it for you..
> >
> >Jez
> >"Bolt cutters on stand-by"
> >
> >>
Jeffrey Michael Grimm
exploded! This HAS to be the longest thread ever...
Anyway,Eric...I read in the thread here that this only happens to you
when you're playing the Cathedral missions,...since I can't offer
technical help,I can offer gamesaves.If want to try and use my saves
instead of the Cathedral missions on your disc.Maybe they're messed
up or something.If you want to try just let me know and I'll zip 'em
up and send them to you...
ERIC EMERSON wrote:
>
> This may sound crazy but if I reinstall windows won't I lose all my
> applications and files? And IF i reinstall windows shouldn't I just
> upgrade to Windows 2000? I'm pretty new to the PC but I am somewhat
> computer saavy. But I have never reinstalled windows on anything. What
> would be the first step to reinstalling windows?
>
> Eric
>
> WebservantŠ wrote:
> >
> > ERIC EMERSON wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks man but I have only one monitor. I did all you did too. But to
> > > no avail.
> > >
> > > Thanks anyways.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> >
Webservant©
> This may sound crazy but if I reinstall windows won't I lose all my
> applications and files? And IF i reinstall windows shouldn't I just
> upgrade to Windows 2000? I'm pretty new to the PC but I am somewhat
> computer saavy. But I have never reinstalled windows on anything. What
> would be the first step to reinstalling windows?
>
> Eric--
No, if you reinstall windows, you won't lose any files - Ummmm...Well, it's
unlikely! ALWAYS backup anything that's Mission Critical. Many of us Geek types often
reinstall Windows every few months just cause it's so buggy.
I WOULD NOT go to Win 2000, since that is actually an NT environment and EVERYTHING
you have done becomes useless, as well as programs (or games) you have now may not
work.
To reinstall, simply find that special BOOT DISK that you made when you first got
your PC, and pop it in the floppy drive, then place your Windows 98 CD in the CD rom.
Then Reboot (Start/Shutdown/Restart is fine)
When it asks you (and it will) select Option 2 to BOOT the PC with CD-ROM Support.
When you get to A: type in: d:\setup
and the Windows setup will run. If you get an error, try the next drive letter
(e:\setup)
Follow the screen instructions, and 45 min later you are good to go.
ERIC EMERSON
and am now in the mission called into the maw of chaos and I'm still
having the problems as stated before. It just quits at random times.
So I don't think a game save will help.
Thanks anyways.
I hear Thief Gold is good. How is Thief 2???
Eric
Jeffrey Michael Grimm wrote:
>
> Jesus Christ,I was away for a couple of days and this post just
> exploded! This HAS to be the longest thread ever...
> Anyway,Eric...I read in the thread here that this only happens to you
> when you're playing the Cathedral missions,...since I can't offer
> technical help,I can offer gamesaves.If want to try and use my saves
> instead of the Cathedral missions on your disc.Maybe they're messed
> up or something.If you want to try just let me know and I'll zip 'em
> up and send them to you...
>
> ERIC EMERSON wrote:
> >
> > This may sound crazy but if I reinstall windows won't I lose all my
> > applications and files? And IF i reinstall windows shouldn't I just
> > upgrade to Windows 2000? I'm pretty new to the PC but I am somewhat
> > computer saavy. But I have never reinstalled windows on anything. What
> > would be the first step to reinstalling windows?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > WebservantŠ wrote:
> > >
> > > ERIC EMERSON wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks man but I have only one monitor. I did all you did too. But to
> > > > no avail.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks anyways.
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > >
> > >
> > > Have you reinstalled Windows?? That was a fix that did have an effect for me as
> > > well.
> > >
> > > Warren
> > >
> > > --
Jeffrey Michael Grimm
is really fun if you like more of the straight forward burglary and
manor breaching.If you have a powerful system the game plays like a
dream and looks so good.I've got the resolution all the way up and it
looks amazing.The new gagdets and features are really cool.
ERIC EMERSON
None of it worked but thats ok. I managed to skip over the bad missions
and play the last one. It crashes fifty millions times, but god dammit
I played it through. 8) Very cool ending.
I hope to buy Thief Gold and Thief Metal Age. I love this style of
gaming. If you guys like intuitive games try out Fallout or Fallout 2.
Many different outcomes cool movies etc.
Here is the site:
http://www.interplay.com/fallout2/
Thanks again for all your help, who knows I may be back here again to
discuss Thief Gold or Metal Age. 8)
(Its too bad these guys went belly up) 8(
Eric Emerson
WebservantŠ wrote:
>
> ERIC EMERSON wrote:
>
> > This may sound crazy but if I reinstall windows won't I lose all my
> > applications and files? And IF i reinstall windows shouldn't I just
> > upgrade to Windows 2000? I'm pretty new to the PC but I am somewhat
> > computer saavy. But I have never reinstalled windows on anything. What
> > would be the first step to reinstalling windows?
> >
> > Eric--
>
> No, if you reinstall windows, you won't lose any files - Ummmm...Well, it's
> unlikely! ALWAYS backup anything that's Mission Critical. Many of us Geek types often
> reinstall Windows every few months just cause it's so buggy.
>
> I WOULD NOT go to Win 2000, since that is actually an NT environment and EVERYTHING
> you have done becomes useless, as well as programs (or games) you have now may not
> work.
>
> To reinstall, simply find that special BOOT DISK that you made when you first got
> your PC, and pop it in the floppy drive, then place your Windows 98 CD in the CD rom.
> Then Reboot (Start/Shutdown/Restart is fine)
>
> When it asks you (and it will) select Option 2 to BOOT the PC with CD-ROM Support.
>
> When you get to A: type in: d:\setup
> and the Windows setup will run. If you get an error, try the next drive letter
> (e:\setup)
>
> Follow the screen instructions, and 45 min later you are good to go.
>