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Huy Hoang

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Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
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why does Duran look like Terran? Because he's a Xelnaga
and Xelnaga are masters in genetic engineering.
Who says they can't change their appearance?

Chaos-san

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Jun 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/21/99
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Huy Hoang wrote in message <7klvb6$98s$1...@news.worldonline.nl>...

>why does Duran look like Terran? Because he's a Xelnaga
>and Xelnaga are masters in genetic engineering.
>Who says they can't change their appearance?
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There's a guy nammed Duran in one of the SC campaigns? Dang, I didn't know
that. I may have to change the name of the character on my campaign I'm
making. Maybe not, I think everyone usually calls him by his first name.
Urg... lousy Blizzard...

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Chester C.

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Jun 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/22/99
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Duran first appears in Brood War.


Chaos-san

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Jun 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/22/99
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I think I'm going to keep the character in my scenario. Most of the time
he's refered to as Xavier anyway. Plus he's a Goliath so there isn't really
much to get confused with. Unless someone isn't paying attention ot the
characters.

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J-ster

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Jun 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/22/99
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Where do you get that from? Hes an infested terran, and Blizz just didn't
feel like making whole new portrait, so they just used the same one. Its
supposed to be like they only infested him mentally, and not physically
(Except for the fact that he can consume)

J-ster


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Chaos-san

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J-ster wrote in message <7kp38e$sfj$1...@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...

>Where do you get that from? Hes an infested terran, and Blizz just didn't
>feel like making whole new portrait, so they just used the same one. Its
>supposed to be like they only infested him mentally, and not physically
>(Except for the fact that he can consume)
>
>J-ster


Duran is an Infesterd Terran? That rocks ass! That works great with my
scenario I was making. The main charachter is nammed Xavier Duran and he is
working with the Zerg. I had been toying with the idea of having him
accually turn into a zerg.

Koronin

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Jun 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/23/99
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Well, if you solve the destroy the protoss base in 30 minutes, in like
25 minutes or less, you get a bonus level/cutscene.

"J-ster" <jst...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Where do you get that from? Hes an infested terran, and Blizz just didn't
>feel like making whole new portrait, so they just used the same one. Its
>supposed to be like they only infested him mentally, and not physically
>(Except for the fact that he can consume)
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>J-ster
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>Huy Hoang <huyh...@softhome.net> wrote in message
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>> why does Duran look like Terran? Because he's a Xelnaga
>> and Xelnaga are masters in genetic engineering.
>> Who says they can't change their appearance?
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Jun 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/23/99
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Actually, Duran appears in the Terran campaign (in BW, of course) as a
regular Terran, then, he becomes infested in the last Terran mission.
Duran looks the same when he is infested, but his voice sounds Zerg-ish.


AJ

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Jul 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/1/99
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On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:38:44 -0400, "J-ster" <jst...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>Where do you get that from? Hes an infested terran, and Blizz just didn't
>feel like making whole new portrait, so they just used the same one. Its
>supposed to be like they only infested him mentally, and not physically
>(Except for the fact that he can consume)
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>J-ster

It's not really clear what he is, but he's denifitely no infested
terran. He may be Xel'Naga but this seems too simplisitic to me.
Either way he's got more idea of whats going on in the big scheme of
things than even Kerrigan does, so my bet is he's a bit more than a
human with a bug inside him.

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Devon Erik Oslund

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Jul 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/2/99
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a...@labyrinth.net.au (AJ) wrote:

<Duran>

>It's not really clear what he is, but he's denifitely no infested
>terran. He may be Xel'Naga but this seems too simplisitic to me.

Well, he said he'd been working on the protoss/zerg project for millenia.

That means at least two thousand years. Two thousand years back from what is
admittedly an unknown future date, human beings were probably still herding
cattle, not crossing a race of powerful psyonics with a gene-napping biological
menace.

Not to mention that humans don't normally live that long, even in the
indefinite future. (Remember what what Fenix said to Raynor while raiding
Kel-Moran?)

So he's not human. He's not protoss. And while he appeared, for a while, to be
working for the zerg, he claims he was using them to his own ends. So, by
process by elimination, we get Xel'Naga.

Which raises more questions than it answers.

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Eric Stevenson

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Jul 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/2/99
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Devon Erik Oslund <devo...@aol.comhatespam> wrote:
: So he's not human. He's not protoss. And while he appeared, for a while, to be

: working for the zerg, he claims he was using them to his own ends. So, by
: process by elimination, we get Xel'Naga.

This makes sense and is probably the direction that the plot designers
are going. There is at least one other possibility, though. Duran may not
be telling the truth. He lied to the Stukov and DuGalle. He lied to
Kerrigan. I see no reason why he wouldn't lie to Zeratul. The idea I like
the best is that he's delusional. After being infested, he lost his mind.
Trying to combine the Zerg and Protoss could just be a reflection of the
Zerg desire to assimilate other races.

Come to think of it, the Overmind wanted to create the ultimate race by
combining Zerg and Protoss. It has been around for thousands of years.
Kerrigan has a good hold on the Zerg now, but if a piece of the Overmind
survived in Duran, it might be trying to rebuild its former glory.

vince...@my-deja.com

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Jul 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/2/99
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In article <7klvb6$98s$1...@news.worldonline.nl>,

"Huy Hoang" <huyh...@softhome.net> wrote:
> why does Duran look like Terran? Because he's a Xelnaga
> and Xelnaga are masters in genetic engineering.
> Who says they can't change their appearance?
>
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No, no, no. Xel'naga ARE Terrans, that's why Duran looks like a Terran.
It makes sense doesn't it.

You see there are Terrans that stayed based on Earth(U.E.D), there are
Terrans that migrated(ahh, ya) to the outer reaches of space(original SC
Terrans) and then there are Terrans that abandoned the foolish
technological advancing ways of the other Terrans and decided to attain
God-hood. These fresh thinking Terrans broke off from mother earth a
long, long time ago and just happened to build a base on a habitable
planet in some star system close to where the migrating Terrans would
eventually end up. Here they setup their laboratories that would
eventually lead them to God-hood.

Along the road to God-hood, they created these 2 other goofy
races(zerg/protoss) which can survive the harshness of space(no need for
spacesuits and the first step to God-hood) and are now making an even
better breed(pro-zergian). This is all just preliminary experimentation
to their ultimate goal but this would explain why the migrating Terrans
encountered these 2 new races in the proximity of where they lived.

You see its all so very simple.


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JerichoNet

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Jul 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/2/99
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are you some kind of moron. The Protoss have been around for "many milenia".
They worked on the zerg alone for a couple thousands years and same with
protoss. ..

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Ville Vasara

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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<vince...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> In article <7klvb6$98s$1...@news.worldonline.nl>,
> "Huy Hoang" <huyh...@softhome.net> wrote:
> > why does Duran look like Terran? Because he's a Xelnaga
> > and Xelnaga are masters in genetic engineering.
> > Who says they can't change their appearance?
> >
> >
> No, no, no. Xel'naga ARE Terrans, that's why Duran looks like a Terran.
> It makes sense doesn't it.
>

I dont agree with this, but it is kind of interesting. Think that the Zerg
didnt destroy all the Xelnagas, but one ship (or something) escaped to a
small, fertile planet. But the they were badly damaged, and had no
technology with them. But they had luck and crash-landed on this little blue
planet and started the try to rebuild their once glorious civilization. In
the roll of years, this goal was forgotten, however, and the Xelnaga
concentrated on just expanding. They forgot about their former glory, and
had only stories of the great civilization they had which was consumed in a
horrible disaster. This would later on form to the story of the Atlantis.
Without anyone else in the planet, the Xelnaga would become greedy, corrupt
and that kind of stuff. Just like us humans. The Starcraft manual says that
the protoss noticed that the humans werent created by the Xelnaga. In the
time the Xelnaga would have changed their appearance and language to what we
have now. Nice thought.
But if it would be true, who the hell does Duran mean when he says that hes
working for someone?

Clint Knapp

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Jul 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/14/99
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Didn't I already bring up the whole Atlanis thoery already? Nobody listen to
me then, but mabey they'll listen to you. It does make the most sense out of
the other thoeries they've come up with...

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vinmal245

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Jul 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/16/99
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This thing about the Xel'Naga being Terrans, they aren't. The truth is,
Duran may not be Xel'Naga, who knows. But you know he isn't truly terran,
as he is able to change his own physiology. Remember when he is terran and
wears terran armor? The he becomes Zerg and uses a carapace, and can now
regenerate his health. He is a master of disguise, and is part of a race
that may be the shapeshifters known as Xel'Naga. But then again, he may
just be a totally different race. It is likely that he IS Xel'Naga because
not all ships were destroyed by the Zerg. You see, the Xel'Naga opened up a
rift back to Auir moments before Zerg scourge could reach them. They then
disguised themselves as Protoss. Two of them remained protoss forever.
These were known as Adun and Khas. They were the ones that provoked the
certian few templar to stray from the Khala's path. Obviously this was done
in secret. But, they convinced them to, and as the story goes Adun refused
to eliminate them. And eventually Adun was able to take them to their
former homeworld, Shakuras. Obviously, Shakuras had been abandoned for
countless milennia, and only Adun remembered it (from studying the history
of Xel'Naga.....the "forbidden" files). You see, the Xel'Naga had to evolve
the protoss so that they may kill off the Overmind and its Cerebrates. Of
course, they found that the only way to get their power level up above 1000
(kinda like in DBZ ;-) ), they HAD TO BE ON THE POWER SOURCE OF AUIR.
Shakuras. For if Shakuras were to ever be blown out of the sky, Auir too
would disappear.

Clint Knapp

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Khas was only a protoss. it says right in the manual that he STUDIED the Xel
Naga artifacts known as the Khaydrian Crystals. it goes on to say that he
FORMED the belief of Khala, not lead others away from it.... you need to
research before making these statements Vinny... and Adun is the protoss
term for God... Protoss came way before the Overmind, the Dark Templar were
NOT created by th Xel naga. They were rouge tribes of protoss that refused
to follow the Khala, not evolutions made by the Xel Naga. the rouges were
put on an old Xel Naga ship and launched into the vastness of space after
they were banished by the Conclave. Then they cut off their nerve appendages
to severe any link to the Khala that may exist, and they were forced to draw
on the darker energies from the void of space.... you need to read up on
things Vinmal, this whole story you posted is rediculous... I got all this
info I've posted straight from the manual, you could have too.

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The Xel'naga would never try to make any rift in protoss society - it would
be against their psychology to make something un-pure....

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vinmal245

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WRONG AGAIn my friend. Adun was a REAL protoss. They all thought that Adun
and Khas were ONLY protoss. But you see, when the Xel'Naga opened that warp
rift, they travelled back before the Zerg were made, in order to get a head
start on the Dark Templar. All that stuff about the Conclave banishing the
Dark Templar, they did, its true. But it was part of the Xel'Naga's plan,
they had to relocate them. See, the manual covers PROTOSS HISTORY, which is
what THEY know, They don't know that it was actually the Xel'Naga's doing,
and thus, it is not in their history.

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vinmal245

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The few that survived were thinking of just that: SURVIVAL. They no longer
worried about their PHILOSOPHY (not Psychology mind you). They wanted to
make a being of the purest forms of energy, and the Dark templar were made.
They are called "dark" because the protoss find them as a threat to the
Khala. And to put their plans into motion, two Xel'Naga went down and
shapeshifted to become the Protoss known as Adun and Khas.


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Clint Knapp

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again you're talking thru your ass Vinmal...

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vinmal245

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It is recorderd protoss history, Adun was real. They say Adun be with you,
and Adun Toridas, and En Taro Adun, because he was supposedly a great
protoss hero. They now sometimes say En Taro Tassadar, since Tassadar is
now the greatest of all the protoss warriors. You don't know protoss
history. but i do. It is in my book "How to make love to Richard Garlick"
..........wrong book.......uhhh, ehehe, ehehe.......

it is in my book Legacy of the Dark Templar


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MuuMiMan

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On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:55:01 -0400, in the land of alt.games.starcraft
, "vinmal245" <vinm...@prodigy.net> opend his mouth and said:

>WRONG AGAIn my friend. Adun was a REAL protoss. They all thought that Adun
>and Khas were ONLY protoss. But you see, when the Xel'Naga opened that warp
>rift, they travelled back before the Zerg were made, in order to get a head
>start on the Dark Templar. All that stuff about the Conclave banishing the
>Dark Templar, they did, its true. But it was part of the Xel'Naga's plan,
>they had to relocate them. See, the manual covers PROTOSS HISTORY, which is
>what THEY know, They don't know that it was actually the Xel'Naga's doing,
>and thus, it is not in their history.
>

And ofcourse this load of bull which you try to feed us is the part
which is not in the manual, right?

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Clint Knapp <ckn...@netins.net> wrote in message
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> again you're talking thru your ass Vinmal...

To be a leader of a commercial-quality product I find some of your posts
somewhat immature (most are high-quality posts that are on topic and
helpful, tough...) . This one falls into the former category. I don't really
care who is right of you two, but I can tell you that this is definetly not
the place for flaming. If you really feel like puking profanities at each
other, please do it through e-mail.

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