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Battle Net sucks, why won't blizzard improve it ?

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BGHman

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Apr 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/1/99
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They should try to atleast add a cancel button so that you don't have to
wait for 3 mins or 5 mins after you join a game that doesn't work. Anyone
agree ? The only way you could cancel the game you wanted to join was by
ctrl alt delete, or reset button on your computer.


Pablo_JonDETH

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Apr 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/1/99
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I agree. I'm a Mac user, but this has still happened to me several times
and it is incredibly annoying. I have to force-quit, and that always
takes some time to do. Please Blizzard, do something!

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JACK A PRICE

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Apr 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/1/99
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BGHman,
I hear ya man. It's takes my computer (PII-400, 56k modem, 128mgs RAM) a
good 5 minutes to find the "Fastest Battle.net Server". Then an additional 2
minutes to log onto B.net. There's like an average of 32,000 people on
B.net! They could easily fix this by making more servers. They definitely
have the dough to do it.
Kyle Price


gtga...@pop.phnx.uswest.net

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Apr 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/2/99
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BGHman wrote:

> They should try to atleast add a cancel button so that you don't have to
> wait for 3 mins or 5 mins after you join a game that doesn't work. Anyone
> agree ? The only way you could cancel the game you wanted to join was by
> ctrl alt delete, or reset button on your computer.

Well, if you really don't like it stop paying for it. Oh yeah, its free.
Face it, B.net is coming out of their own pocket; they have no obligation to
make a perfect multiplayer network. Personally, I hope that their network
code is improved in the upcoming patches and sequels, but theirs no point in
complaining about something for nothing.

___
Brian (no, the other one)


Brad Olney

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Apr 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/2/99
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Dude, Bnet work just fine. The problem is yer conection not Bnet. Me and
all the friends I play with always log on fast and always have one or two
green. And no, i am not cable

vaiteja

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Apr 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/2/99
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You make me sick !

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- Steve -

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Apr 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/2/99
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No you make me sick, the guy above you has a point (can't spell his name
very easily) It's free so stop complaining. If you want something better
there's place's you can pay to play.


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Birdman

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Apr 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/2/99
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Hum im runnign a Cyrix 200MX (porduction run 2) with 32mb of ram, a 36.6
modem and I dont have a problem ever. I play 10 games a night too. Have you
heard of getting a good ISP?? That helps.

birdman


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Rad

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Apr 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/2/99
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Shit! I thought i was the only one! My god, this is kinda a little relieving
in a way ... sorta... I do think blizzard need to do something about this..
I don't know what tho...

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Rad

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Apr 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/2/99
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I agree there. However, don't you think the increasing number of people with
some sort of hatred toward the battle.net is a little cautioning for
blizzard? I mean I would be worried if I worked for blizzard. When I am in
Tech forum of blizzard web site, there are so many posts about how
battle.net really isn't up to the par. I mean if blizzard made a commitment
to having such a network, you would think they do something to keep it in
good shape. Or at least make some announcements about what the problems are
and what they are doing about it, that sorta thing. Also, there are many
people without any problems at all.. I don't know...

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evil inside

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Apr 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/3/99
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i'm using a 25 MB ASDL..........
and my connection to Battle.net is still ................ SUCKS.
always 3-yellow.

Brad Olney <a...@a.com> wrote in message news:3705162A...@a.com...


> Dude, Bnet work just fine. The problem is yer conection not Bnet. Me and
> all the friends I play with always log on fast and always have one or two
> green. And no, i am not cable
>
> BGHman wrote:
>

TheRubberDucky

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Apr 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/3/99
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Well I am horrified too. I just got my 30 something DSL today (My
parents allowed me into the server) And I got a 5red. BTW Does anyone
ever have problems with the damn mindspring server? Whenever I end up on
that server I get a disconnect.

Zlmndra

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Apr 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/3/99
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Yeah, me too! It really sucks. I was playing a ladder game and suddenly it
disconnected. DAMN IT!!!!!!!

asha_...@hotmail.com


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- Steve -

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Apr 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/3/99
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Your ISP is the biggest difference. And where you live. People in England
aren't going to get good results because they have to go all the way across
the Atlantic. A lot of people don't have a problem which suggests that the
problem is there's more than b.net's. If you play in a game where everybody
has good connections you can get a lag free game.


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@earthling.net Eric the Fruitbat

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Apr 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/3/99
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I connect to B.Net at 56k with my PII450, 128kRAM.
Except from 5 to 8 PM when my ISP is slow and overloaded with users, I
have no complaints at all about B.Net. If you're looking for an alternative,
try the FSGS... Not as many people but just as much BGH!


Free Starcraft Gaming Service: www.fsgs.com

The Kellys

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Apr 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/3/99
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I have a p166 and a cable modem and b.net gives me no trouble.
With my old isp (worldnet) it was slow.
Stopi blaming blizzard for your lousy connection

psich...@my-dejanews.com

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Apr 4, 1999, 4:00:00 AM4/4/99
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The main problem with B.net is not only slowness and not enough servers, but
also server connections!!! I don't know how many frikkin' times I'd want to
play with my friends and we wouldn't be able to see or talk to each other
even though we're all on b.net. Even though blizzard decided to make a cheap
buck by selling server space to Mindspring or Exodus or Global somthing, its
worth $hit if they aren't connected together. Also, god knows how many times
I'd be kicking ass and I get the friggin "Your connection to battle.net has
been lost". Finally, b.net does need new servers, weekends are racking up
43000+ users and its not getting any faster

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Toner37

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Apr 4, 1999, 4:00:00 AM4/4/99
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im not sure if it is all your isp, i play on a 100vg-anylan network connect to
a t3 line, and i still get 5 or 6 red

montster

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Apr 4, 1999, 4:00:00 AM4/4/99
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TheRubberDucky <cra...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> Well I am horrified too. I just got my 30 something DSL today (My
> parents allowed me into the server) And I got a 5red. BTW Does anyone
> ever have problems with the damn mindspring server? Whenever I end up on
> that server I get a disconnect.
>
> evil inside wrote:
> >
> > i'm using a 25 MB ASDL..........
> > and my connection to Battle.net is still ................ SUCKS.
> > always 3-yellow.
> >
> > Brad Olney <a...@a.com> wrote in message news:3705162A...@a.com...
> > > Dude, Bnet work just fine. The problem is yer conection not Bnet. Me
and
> > > all the friends I play with always log on fast and always have one or
two
> > > green. And no, i am not cable
> > >
> > > BGHman wrote:
> > >
> > > > They should try to atleast add a cancel button so that you don't
have to
> > > > wait for 3 mins or 5 mins after you join a game that doesn't work.
> > Anyone
> > > > agree ? The only way you could cancel the game you wanted to join
was by
> > > > ctrl alt delete, or reset button on your computer.

To all:

The green-yellow-red indicators that you see while in battle.net chat
channels are derived from ping times, which aren't affected by the speed of
your connection (well, not appreciably affected, anyway). The question that
you should be asking yourself is, 'Do I keep lagging out of the games?'
After all, do you care more about what color you've got, or how well the
game runs? I am currently connecting to the Internet via my own proxy
server over a 56K modem (50,600bps connection, every time) so that my whole
home network has access. Because of the proxy server, I am always 6r in
chat rooms, but when I get into the games I'm 1g at the worst (before it
starts) and never lag out of a game in progress.

Ping time is a measure of how long it takes a packet to travel from you to a
certain address (or vice-versa, or both ways, depending on implementation),
including all the stops, twists and turns it has to make in between. The
speed of your connection won't affect that, most of the delay is in passing
packets from one communications line to another (like inside a router, hub
or server or something). Most proxy servers usually don't pass pings around
very fast. Ping time is basically a measure of how far away you are. You
can use it to gauge network congestion only if you have enough data about
'normal' ping delays.

We all keep seeing people in here, and elsewhere, complain about the
performance of battle.net. I don't know how many users Blizzard designed
battle.net to be able to support simultaneously, but any network or network
based service is going to bog down if you start getting more users than you
can handle (duh, I know). I make my living as a computer/network/security
expert, and I know that even the fastest, best designed systems are going to
crawl if you don't have the resources to handle all the people trying to use
it. Not that I'm saying that Blizzard hasn't got sufficient capacity for
everyone. I simply don't know either way. I don't work for them.

I'd like to know what the hell you are talking about when you say you have a
30 something DSL connection. Also, there is no such thing as a 25MB
(megabyte) ADSL connection. With ADSL the max speed is either 1.544Mbps
(megabits, notice the small-b) upstream and downstream (also called
symmetrical) or 1Mbps upstream (from you to the world) and either 7- or
8Mbps downstream (from the world to you). I think what you meant was that
the ADSL connection is 256Kbps (256,000 bits per second, of course) both
ways, which is the most common minimum speed for an ADSL installation. If
you really have a 25MB DSL connection, then you are using something that
hasn't been invented yet. The fastest connection currently under
development is VHDSL at approx. 31Mbps, about 7 time slower than what you're
claiming. Just trying to clear up some of the confusion over DSL.

I've heard several people complain about the Mindspring b.net server, but I
don't know anything to argue either way. Sorry I can't help there.

I would like to see a cancel button when I'm between telling it to join a
game and I actually get in. I did have to use the 'ye-olde-reset-switch'
method once many months ago. Wasn't happy about that.

Anyone else see this: when I'm waiting for battle.net to connect, if I
click cancel I go back to the multi-player game type selection screen, but
if I press the ESC key, it closes SC/BW altogether.

Happy hunting!

montster

TheRubberDucky

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Apr 4, 1999, 4:00:00 AM4/4/99
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Yes, this is correct. But even though my ping is usually red, I lag out
of games more often than I should be. What I assume, is that after you
start thegame you ARE STILL CONNECTED AND COOMMUNICATING WITH BATTLE.NET
THROUGHOUT the entire game. If I end up with a 6red and go and play
agaem and we all have 1green in the game, chances are, I'll be either be
disconnected from Battle.Net, or the game.

Pedro Faria

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Apr 4, 1999, 4:00:00 AM4/4/99
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On 4 Apr 1999 08:04:01 GMT, ton...@aol.com (Toner37) wrote:

>im not sure if it is all your isp, i play on a 100vg-anylan network connect to
>a t3 line, and i still get 5 or 6 red


Lag is messurment of how long it takes for a signal to travell to
another computer and back, that has generally nothing to do with how
much bandwidth you have. Thus a 28.8 modem woud get more or less the
same ping time as whatever t3 line or whatever you happens to be
connected too.

A normal modem game is more than capable of sending and recieving all
needed data in SC. What can be true though, is that the ISP could have
heavier load on their server that handles modem connection than one
that has cable connection or if one sits directly on the net, that can
cause extra lag, but as always, the ISP and the net it self is the
main cause of lag.
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Fred Tick

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Apr 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/5/99
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That's fine and all, but it would be nice if they could have included a
TCP/IP version like they did for the Mac version of Warcraft. Then at
least when bnet was ****ed we could play on the internet without using
KALI.

Fred.


article <3704FAE5...@pop.phnx.uswest.net>,

CrazySniffable

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Apr 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/7/99
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Everyone has been talking about what doesn't cause lag, but what does?
Try to stay laymans.

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Vultures

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Apr 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/8/99
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damn it! B.net isn't free. Blizzard made it so you can't use tcp/ip so your
forced to play on b.net. Blizzard wants you to think that their doing you a
big favor by providing you with a pour service but in fact their just
laughing their asses off at you. If blizzard had a tcp/ip version, it'll be
fine, but they don't.
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Koronin

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Apr 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/9/99
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What is this, special olympics?

Bnet is *FREE*

I connect daily, rarely have a single problem with it. Of course, I
have a kick ass $20.00/month ISP (you get what you pay for), a nice
PII machine, and a reliable phone line.

Try heat, or Gamezone if you're so CHEAP to not wanna pay 20 lousy
bucks for a LIFETIME of playing on Kali.

One benefit of Kali, the people you'll play there are generally more
mature, have much better attitudes, and are looking for no frills 1v1
games, no BGH channels, no 7v1 comp stomp crap, the competition is
generally better.

TheDrug

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Apr 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/10/99
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Does Battle.net Optimizer ring a BELL?
This so claimed cool file is what fucks up BATTLE.net.
I talked to BLIZZARD one on one and that's what the tech at bnet told me. He
also states that this program causes NETSPLITS similair to IRC's efnet
netsplits. Well hope you get it now.


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torsdag 1. april 1999 10.00.00 UTC+2 skrev BGHman følgende:
> They should try to atleast add a cancel button so that you don't have to
> wait for 3 mins or 5 mins after you join a game that doesn't work. Anyone
> agree ? The only way you could cancel the game you wanted to join was by
> ctrl alt delete, or reset button on your computer.

bitch it still fucking sucks

jerk-o

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On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 13:07:29 -0700 (PDT), wof...@gmail.com wrote
20 years. It took you 20 years to respond to this. What is wrong with you?

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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I still could not get a Stone of Jordan from playing Diablo 2... :)

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