How common are hackers on B.net?
Kirk
years offline. I recognize that I have to learn how to play a very
different way against human opponents... still, I have pretty good
skills and I know the various units and their capabilities cold.
When I play on Bnet, I mostly get beaten, which is fine... I'm
learning. But sometimes when I check the stats after a game, it turns
out one player has gathered way more resources than anybody else --
twice as much, sometimes.
How can this be? One possibility that comes to mind is a hack... any
thoughts?
Adam Smith
To make a long story short, mineral hacks and any other hacks that
affect the state of the game aren't possible in multiplayer. All the
computers in a multiplayer geame keep track of what's going on in the
game, and check with each other to make sure nobody's trying to cheat.
You can have a program running that goes into the game's memory and
gives you, say, 10000 minerals. But as soon as you try to spend those
minerals, the other computer(s) in the game will say "Sorry, you don't
have that much," and disconnect you.
Anyway, most people who are new to multiplayer don't realize how fast
resources (especially minerals) can be collected. In general, you
should be constantly pumping out workers and having them collect
minerals. You won't be able to max out your mineral income until you
have at least 2.5 workers for each mineral patch at your base.
Also, when you finish building a new "town hall" at an expansion site,
you should immediately take half the workers at your main base and
send them over to mine at the expansion. The pump out workers at
_both_ bases until you get back up to 2.5-3 workers per mineral patch.
The overall point is that you should build a _lot_ of workers. If you
do it right, you should have money coming out of your ears.
Hope this helps.
--
Adam Smith
Spyda
Newbies + one experienced player. If someone expands, and makes way more
probes then anyone else does then then they can easilly get double the
resources.
jerk-Ô the scavenger
i think that they expand and have 2.5-3 peons on each thing of minerals,
instead of using a hack. if you want to get better at playing online,
you should try playing overwind. %^}
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"Kirk" <kirk...@aol.com> wrote in message
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That is real easy. No hack . . . Don't worry about it
But plan on losing to someone who has 3 bases to your one ;)
-LTP
:)
Steven Ung
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> Kirk wrote:
> >
> > I'm pretty new to Battlenet, although I've played SC obsessively for
> > years offline. I recognize that I have to learn how to play a very
> > different way against human opponents... still, I have pretty good
> > skills and I know the various units and their capabilities cold.
> >
> > When I play on Bnet, I mostly get beaten, which is fine... I'm
> > learning. But sometimes when I check the stats after a game, it turns
> > out one player has gathered way more resources than anybody else --
> > twice as much, sometimes.
> >
> > How can this be? One possibility that comes to mind is a hack... any
> > thoughts?
>
> i think that they expand and have 2.5-3 peons on each thing of minerals,
> instead of using a hack. if you want to get better at playing online,
> you should try playing overwind. %^}
On the contrary. I find that playing vs overwind actually degrades ones'
performance. :-)
Afterall, losing 100 games out of 100 games, ones' morale does get
demotivated. ^_^
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Ah... So that *was* your plan when we played :-)
Luc The Perverse
"Steven Ung" <ste...@gtekmy.po.my> wrote in message
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> "Luc The Perverse" <thu...@trilobyte.net> wrote in message
> news:u7g3h1n...@news.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Kirk" <kirk...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:7bb1ac0e.02022...@posting.google.com...
> > > I'm pretty new to Battlenet, although I've played SC obsessively for
> > > years offline. I recognize that I have to learn how to play a very
> > > different way against human opponents... still, I have pretty good
> > > skills and I know the various units and their capabilities cold.
> > >
> > > When I play on Bnet, I mostly get beaten, which is fine... I'm
> > > learning. But sometimes when I check the stats after a game, it turns
> > > out one player has gathered way more resources than anybody else --
> > > twice as much, sometimes.
> > >
> > > How can this be? One possibility that comes to mind is a hack... any
> > > thoughts?
> >
> > That is real easy. No hack . . . Don't worry about it
> >
> > But plan on losing to someone who has 3 bases to your one ;)
>
> Ah... So that *was* your plan when we played :-)
It wurks if they R ~ destr0yed!
-LTP
:)
Steven Ung
Go play another gosu player from France, Xav something :)
Super gosu Zerg !
)(av.-.)3onl)
n00b gosu pleaz, also my name is )(/-\\/)30|\|l) that seems easy to spell
!!!
I play the game since december ;)
Did you got my mail? The user have been removed so that's useless now :(
Also you were lucky your children were crying to get some milk injections,
coz you'd have troubles if we played again :p
Steven Ung
news:a5d0ct$56$1...@wanadoo.fr...
No, no email from you yet. What user are you talking about?
> Also you were lucky your children were crying to get some milk injections,
> coz you'd have troubles if we played again :p
Bleh. You're too Gosu for me. You ch0wn on me like the Nuubie I am :-(
WarCraft 3, here I come!!
)(av.-.)3onl)
anyway the infos he contained are no longer working, so nevermind, a friend
will set a new ftp server today, then i'll send you another mail.
Also about warcraft 3, it's not perfect :
unbalanced races
45 fighters max if you kill all your workers :(
most people play b.netd servers, so get ready to be hacked :p
BUT :
the heroe is a great feature
it has the good things from old strs(bunch of buildings/upgrade you need to
build fast as the lightning)
it looks great and works on low configs(from pII 400 128Mo+3D card)
it's not too late to start playing it and become a gosu before your friends.
Now if someone else wanna duel me, i'd rather do it on diablo2LOD, @ least
there i win ;)
Steven Ung
> I sent the mail yesterday!
roy...@tm.net.my ?
> anyway the infos he contained are no longer working, so nevermind, a
friend
> will set a new ftp server today, then i'll send you another mail.
Thanks, but don't bother. I have a friend who is using 2mb dl/2mb ul speed
here in Malaysia :-)
> Also about warcraft 3, it's not perfect :
> unbalanced races
> 45 fighters max if you kill all your workers :(
> most people play b.netd servers, so get ready to be hacked :p
>
> BUT :
> the heroe is a great feature
> it has the good things from old strs(bunch of buildings/upgrade you need
to
> build fast as the lightning)
> it looks great and works on low configs(from pII 400 128Mo+3D card)
> it's not too late to start playing it and become a gosu before your
friends.
>
> Now if someone else wanna duel me, i'd rather do it on diablo2LOD, @ least
> there i win ;)
)(av.-.)3onl)
> ")(av.-.)3onl)" <maxwell....@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
> news:a5d43j$42c$1...@wanadoo.fr...
> > I sent the mail yesterday!
> ste...@gtekmy.po.my ?
> roy...@tm.net.my ?
>
> > anyway the infos he contained are no longer working, so nevermind, a
> friend
> > will set a new ftp server today, then i'll send you another mail.
>
> Thanks, but don't bother. I have a friend who is using 2mb dl/2mb ul speed
> here in Malaysia :-)
The Vicious OverWind
wrote:
>On the contrary. I find that playing vs overwind actually degrades ones'
>performance. :-)
Heh... I'm not very good right now. I've just started playing again,
it's been 3 months without internet at home...
But I guess it's not as bad as my last pause, so I'll be up with the
basics in no time :)
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> On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 08:10:56 +0800, "Steven Ung" <ste...@gtekmy.po.my>
> wrote:
>
> >On the contrary. I find that playing vs overwind actually degrades ones'
> >performance. :-)
>
> Heh... I'm not very good right now. I've just started playing again,
> it's been 3 months without internet at home...
>
> But I guess it's not as bad as my last pause, so I'll be up with the
> basics in no time :)
It's like riding a bike... :) but playing OW is like climbing a mountain,
while he's going downhill... if he's in shape, you can't keep up :)
Anyways... a rematch tonite? ;)
Cheers,
-Low
Steven Ung
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Tonight? God damnit. Save the replay for me ! :-)
Low Profile
> "Low Profile" <ba...@engine-software.nl> wrote in message
> news:3c7a55d9$0$4608$e4fe...@dreader3.news.xs4all.nl...
> > "The Vicious OverWind" <mar...@fez.dk> wrote in message
> > news:60bk7uc0nac4e57d9...@4ax.com...
> > > On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 08:10:56 +0800, "Steven Ung" <ste...@gtekmy.po.my>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >On the contrary. I find that playing vs overwind actually degrades
> ones'
> > > >performance. :-)
> > >
> > > Heh... I'm not very good right now. I've just started playing again,
> > > it's been 3 months without internet at home...
> > >
> > > But I guess it's not as bad as my last pause, so I'll be up with the
> > > basics in no time :)
> >
> > It's like riding a bike... :) but playing OW is like climbing a
> mountain,
> > while he's going downhill... if he's in shape, you can't keep up :)
> >
> > Anyways... a rematch tonite? ;)
>
> Tonight? God damnit. Save the replay for me ! :-)
Yer too late... he kicked my ass already : / gg though ;) (and sorry, no
replay)
-Low
Steven Ung
*Sigh* :-(
Eric Byers
muttered something along the lines of:
>*Sigh* :-(
*lol*
You and your replays...
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Steven Ung
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> On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:50:51 +0800, "Steven Ung" <ste...@gtekmy.po.my>
> muttered something along the lines of:
>
> >*Sigh* :-(
>
> *lol*
>
> You and your replays...
It would be fun to see how people win the game with 4 overlord (filled with
hydras) drops :-)
Eric Byers
muttered something along the lines of:
>It would be fun to see how people win the game with 4 overlord (filled with
>hydras) drops :-)
*lol*
Wir haben unsere methoden...
(PS: Do you memorize every replay you watch?)
Steven Ung
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:07:55 +0800, "Steven Ung" <ste...@gtekmy.po.my>
> muttered something along the lines of:
>
> >It would be fun to see how people win the game with 4 overlord (filled
with
> >hydras) drops :-)
>
> *lol*
>
> Wir haben unsere methoden...
>
> (PS: Do you memorize every replay you watch?)
Yes. It would be helpful if I ever met that same person on Battlenet and to
watch out for that strategy being used. :-)
Basically to sum up, someone's (name with held to protect some individual)
strategy is Expand, expansion get raped by a dozen M+M+F, tech up, then do
ghay drops :p
Eric Byers
muttered something along the lines of:
>Yes. It would be helpful if I ever met that same person on Battlenet and to
>watch out for that strategy being used. :-)
>
>Basically to sum up, someone's (name with held to protect some individual)
>strategy is Expand, expansion get raped by a dozen M+M+F, tech up, then do
>ghay drops :p
But I have more tricks up my sleeve! Beware my mighty Drone rush! :-)
Steven Ung
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:52:47 +0800, "Steven Ung" <ste...@gtekmy.po.my>
> muttered something along the lines of:
>
> >Yes. It would be helpful if I ever met that same person on Battlenet and
to
> >watch out for that strategy being used. :-)
> >
> >Basically to sum up, someone's (name with held to protect some
individual)
> >strategy is Expand, expansion get raped by a dozen M+M+F, tech up, then
do
> >ghay drops :p
>
> But I have more tricks up my sleeve! Beware my mighty Drone rush! :-)
Huh? I wasn't referring to you. :-)
Zealot the Crazy Vous
26 Feb 2002 05:14:10 GMT, when Eric Byers <eihj...@online.no> ,
started attacking me out of nowhere. After I got a detector and saw he
was a DT he said "Re: How common are hackers on B.net?" and I said:
>>Yes. It would be helpful if I ever met that same person on Battlenet and to
>>watch out for that strategy being used. :-)
>>
>>Basically to sum up, someone's (name with held to protect some individual)
>>strategy is Expand, expansion get raped by a dozen M+M+F, tech up, then do
>>ghay drops :p
>
>But I have more tricks up my sleeve! Beware my mighty Drone rush! :-)
ahh, the wonderful dancing drones...
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>
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 08:10:56 +0800, "Steven Ung" <ste...@gtekmy.po.my>
> wrote:
>
> >On the contrary. I find that playing vs overwind actually degrades ones'
> >performance. :-)
>
> Heh... I'm not very good right now. I've just started playing again,
> it's been 3 months without internet at home...
that reminds of that guy who says, "I haven't played pool in 5 years!"
and then kicks my arse big time
jerk-Ô the scavenger
>
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:52:47 +0800, "Steven Ung" <ste...@gtekmy.po.my>
> muttered something along the lines of:
>
> >Yes. It would be helpful if I ever met that same person on Battlenet and to
> >watch out for that strategy being used. :-)
> >
> >Basically to sum up, someone's (name with held to protect some individual)
> >strategy is Expand, expansion get raped by a dozen M+M+F, tech up, then do
> >ghay drops :p
>
> But I have more tricks up my sleeve! Beware my mighty Drone rush! :-)
i, however, like the Nano Dance of Death!
Eric Byers
muttered something along the lines of:
>Huh? I wasn't referring to you. :-)
In that case, nevermind.
Low Profile
> Yes. It would be helpful if I ever met that same person on Battlenet and
to
> watch out for that strategy being used. :-)
LOL :) ... well I could send you the replays of the times I actually beat OW
(I keep those in a safe, and have quadruple backups... so you get an
indication of how rare they actually are) :) But then you'll be able to see
that my victories are based on sheer luck, not skill :-D
-Low
jerk-Ô the scavenger
or you could post them to alt.binaries.games.starcraft
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> Low Profile wrote:
> >
> > "Steven Ung" <ste...@gtekmy.po.my> wrote in message
> > news:a5f4i9$6uh19$1...@ID-121643.news.dfncis.de...
> > > Yes. It would be helpful if I ever met that same person on Battlenet
and
> > to
> > > watch out for that strategy being used. :-)
> >
> > LOL :) ... well I could send you the replays of the times I actually
beat OW
> > (I keep those in a safe, and have quadruple backups... so you get an
> > indication of how rare they actually are) :) But then you'll be able to
see
> > that my victories are based on sheer luck, not skill :-D
>
> or you could post them to alt.binaries.games.starcraft
Nah, too much work (I'm not even subscribed, and I'm lazy) :)
-Low
Ben Sharvy
and where they are. There's no hack for free minerals.
jerk-Ô the scavenger
>
> The only hack is one to see the entire map--what everybody is doing
> and where they are. There's no hack for free minerals.
+h@+'5 wh@+ j00 +hink. mu@h@h@h@h@h@h@!!!!
Steven Ung
Or Overwind give lame excuses like "I'm sick" or "I'm having period" ;p
Steven Ung
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> The only hack is one to see the entire map--what everybody is doing
> and where they are. There's no hack for free minerals.
There ain't any hack that works on BNet!!
ultranono
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> > > "Luc The Perverse" <thu...@trilobyte.net> wrote in message
> > > news:u7j5pta...@news.supernews.com...> > > > news:a5bvnb$5ahdg$1...@ID-121643.news.dfncis.de...
> > > > > "Luc The Perverse" <thu...@trilobyte.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:u7g3h1n...@news.supernews.com...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Kirk" <kirk...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:7bb1ac0e.02022...@posting.google.com...
> > > > > > > I'm pretty new to Battlenet, although I've played SC
obsessively
> > for
> > > > > > > years offline. I recognize that I have to learn how to play a
> > very
> > > > > > > different way against human opponents... still, I have pretty
> good
> > > > > > > skills and I know the various units and their capabilities
cold.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I play on Bnet, I mostly get beaten, which is fine... I'm
> > > > > > > learning. But sometimes when I check the stats after a game,
it
> > > turns
> > > > > > > out one player has gathered way more resources than anybody
> > else --
> > > > > > > twice as much, sometimes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How can this be? One possibility that comes to mind is a
> hack...
> > > any
> > > > > > > thoughts?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That is real easy. No hack . . . Don't worry about it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But plan on losing to someone who has 3 bases to your one ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > Ah... So that *was* your plan when we played :-)
> > > >
> > > > It wurks if they R ~ destr0yed!
> > >
> > > Go play another gosu player from France, Xav something :)
> > >
> > > Super gosu Zerg !
> >
> > n00b gosu pleaz, also my name is )(/-\\/)30|\|l) that seems easy to
spell
> > !!!
> > I play the game since december ;)
> > Did you got my mail? The user have been removed so that's useless now :(
>
> No, no email from you yet. What user are you talking about?
>
> > Also you were lucky your children were crying to get some milk
injections,
> > coz you'd have troubles if we played again :p
>
> Bleh. You're too Gosu for me. You ch0wn on me like the Nuubie I am :-(
>
> WarCraft 3, here I come!!
Grok[vL]
wrote:
>"Ben Sharvy" <luvn...@www.com> wrote in message
>news:7ae24ad2.02022...@posting.google.com...
>> The only hack is one to see the entire map--what everybody is doing
>> and where they are. There's no hack for free minerals.
>
>There ain't any hack that works on BNet!!
That is just so wrong.
Our hacks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Show complete map.
Show everything on minimap.
Allow you to select unseen units on main map.
Name spoof of course.
Name spoof correction for ip-bannable name characters in other
people's names. I.E. fixes their name before leaving game so you
don't get ip-banned by server when you send game report.
Send idle workers to the nearest patch(to the nearest base) that
doesnt have enough workers mining it(based on distance to that base).
Order idle SCVs to repair damaged units within a certain distance.
Automatically create interceptors and scarabs.
Automatically unallies and unvisions when someone unallies you.
Show every players ally state, vision state, minerals, gas, race,
name, and IP.
Tells you during game when one person unallies another.
Allow dropping anyone by name or partial name, i.e. "drop *ermi*"
instantly drops Overmind or Fermi.
Has drop deflection if someone tries to drop you, it blocks it and
counters by dropping them in retaliation.
Automatically sets extra high latency as the first packet of the game.
Displays ping times of everyone in the game.
Order units that are 'moving' to a rally point to 'attack-move'
instead.(Wonderful for setting up a bunch of hatcheries and pumping
cracklings against any enemy -- they are hatched and go attack enemy
without you having to change their orders.)
Auto-restore for medics. Your unit or a nearby ally unit gets
irradiated, locked down, etc, medic casts restore instantly.
Auto-feedback for DAs. Nearby enemy unit with sufficient energy? DA
takes care of him without your intervention.
Botnet - our own server for talking during the game, so we can talk
openly in front of everyone including allies, and no one will hear us.
Good for backstabbing our allies.
Custom messages to screen. Of course we can say anything in any color
and formatting on the game console, and everyone or select people will
see it. Send to just one or two people to get them to backstab
someone. Can spoof a message from their ally to them if you want.
Nearly all of these features have commands or hotkeys to toggle them
on/off for those you don't want at a particular time.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'm sure I forgot a handful of other things it does but you get the
point. Map hack is not the only thing you can do if you put your
minds to it.
By the way, for those who will ask, these hacks are never distributed
to anyone else, so we do not promote widespread cheating on
Battle.net, we just do it ourselves :)
Ben Sharvy
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 08:47:34 +0800, "Steven Ung" <ste...@gtekmy.po.my>
> wrote:
>
> >"Ben Sharvy" <luvn...@www.com> wrote in message
> >news:7ae24ad2.02022...@posting.google.com...
> >> The only hack is one to see the entire map--what everybody is doing
> >> and where they are. There's no hack for free minerals.
> >
> >There ain't any hack that works on BNet!!
>
> That is just so wrong.
>
> Our hacks
Who is included in "our"?
Grok[vL]
Our:
Grok
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Battle.Net: use-bncs02.battle.net
Channel: Clan [vL]
Steven Ung
> wrote:
>
> >"Ben Sharvy" <luvn...@www.com> wrote in message
> >news:7ae24ad2.02022...@posting.google.com...
> >> The only hack is one to see the entire map--what everybody is doing
> >> and where they are. There's no hack for free minerals.
> >
> >There ain't any hack that works on BNet!!
>
> That is just so wrong.
>
You're stupid. Go away!
Steven Ung
> On 10 Mar 2002 13:51:14 -0800, luvn...@www.com (Ben Sharvy) wrote:
>
> >"Grok[vL]" <nos...@email.net> wrote in message
news:<A319C114D11E7975.05AD7BD8...@lp.airnews.net>...
> >> On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 08:47:34 +0800, "Steven Ung" <ste...@gtekmy.po.my>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Ben Sharvy" <luvn...@www.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:7ae24ad2.02022...@posting.google.com...
> >> >> The only hack is one to see the entire map--what everybody is doing
> >> >> and where they are. There's no hack for free minerals.
> >> >
> >> >There ain't any hack that works on BNet!!
> >>
> >> That is just so wrong.
> >>
> >> Our hacks
> >
> >Who is included in "our"?
>
> Our:
ô¿ô¬
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> *PLONK*
?
Zealot The Crazy Vous
started attacking me out of nowhere. After I got a detector and saw he
>> *PLONK*
>?
replying to someone who just plonked you usually doesn't get much of
a response from that person....
Steven Ung
news:d0ot8uce52ltghc6g...@4ax.com...
> Ok, so I was shredding some zerglings in alt.games.starcraft on Tue,
> 12 Mar 2002 16:40:46 +0800, when "Steven Ung" <ste...@gtekmy.po.my>,
> started attacking me out of nowhere. After I got a detector and saw he
> was a DT, he said "Re: How common are hackers on B.net?" and I said::
> >> *PLONK*
> >?
>
> replying to someone who just plonked you usually doesn't get much of
> a response from that person....
That was what had me surprised. I'm not sure of his rationale to plonk me,
hence the question mark.
The reason why I plonk the original author was because he posted links
and/or claim that he has hacks.
Grok[vL]
wrote:
>"Zealot The Crazy Vous" <ktwils...@attbi.com> wrote in message
>news:d0ot8uce52ltghc6g...@4ax.com...
>> Ok, so I was shredding some zerglings in alt.games.starcraft on Tue,
>> 12 Mar 2002 16:40:46 +0800, when "Steven Ung" <ste...@gtekmy.po.my>,
>> started attacking me out of nowhere. After I got a detector and saw he
>> was a DT, he said "Re: How common are hackers on B.net?" and I said::
>> >> *PLONK*
>> >?
>>
>> replying to someone who just plonked you usually doesn't get much of
>> a response from that person....
>
>That was what had me surprised. I'm not sure of his rationale to plonk me,
>hence the question mark.
>
>The reason why I plonk the original author was because he posted links
>and/or claim that he has hacks.
Interesting. You, an outspoken illegal user of warcraft III beta,
plonking someone for posting a link to his programmer clan's web page.
Yet you freely admit stealing from Blizzard and playing unauthorized
on bnetd servers. I bet you even believe your own justifications for
doing so in each case.
What a hypocrit.
At least what I do is for academic pursuit and just plain fun, and
never do I distribute hacks. Hell, if our hacks got out, it would
ruin Battle.net as a fun place to play Starcraft. At least right now
all anybody else has are name spoofers and map hacks. The stuff in
ours makes theirs look like preschool stuff.
ChristianM
>I'm pretty new to Battlenet, although I've played SC obsessively for
>years offline. I recognize that I have to learn how to play a very
>different way against human opponents... still, I have pretty good
>skills and I know the various units and their capabilities cold.
>
>When I play on Bnet, I mostly get beaten, which is fine... I'm
>learning. But sometimes when I check the stats after a game, it turns
>out one player has gathered way more resources than anybody else --
>twice as much, sometimes.
>
>How can this be? One possibility that comes to mind is a hack... any
>thoughts?
I'm a hacker. But my breed are rare among the masses. I can tell you
how much supply you have, how much supply you have used, your
minerals, gas, the upgrades you have, the technologies you have, and
whether or not you have allied victory enabled (The last one is really
good for detecting BSers) Surprisingly enough though, the trouble I
have to go through (minimize Starcraft, run the RAM poker, select the
Brood War process, open the memory address table file PANT PANT PANT)
to get that information makes it worthless in melee because not only
am I dead by then, but also the good players rarely have more than a
few hundred minerals because they're constantly using them to pump out
their forces and defense and upgrade. So I can see that you have used
100 supply. Yay. Now I know I'm about to get owned. That helped a
lot. I haven't and definitely won't write a program that prints it
all out on the screen for you. Maphack is bad enough, and 1 out of
about 20 I'd say use that. But most people who use maphack don't
stand a chance against a good player because good players don't have
to use maphack. I don't even use maphack (not even against the
computer, who always use maphack :). And don't bother asking me where
you can find it. :p Although once, by sheer accident, I was messing
around with the RAM poker in a game against only computers trying to
find out which memory address has stored what color you are (Still
haven't found it) and cloaked my main hatchery. At first I didn't
notice it. Then the computer rushed me with lings lots rines and had
me down to that last hatchery but never attacked it. Unfortunately
for me I had already terminated the RAM poker and given up on finding
the color address and lost all that information. I'm sure it wouldn't
work on battlenet but you never know....
ChristianM, ICQ: 70548829
Grok[vL]
wrote:
Next time you're on battle.net, log on use-bncs02 and come to Clan
[vL]. You might have heard of Valhalla Legends, as we can do all that
you described and much more, but we don't have to tab out of the game.
However we do not believe in releasing our hacks. We're in it for the
fun of creation, and keep our hacks heavily encrypted so that it is
extremely unlikely that someone could ever get it working on their
machine. Ours is a DLL that we load in the Starcraft process space and
hook into various functions such that we can write to the screen and
see everything without tabbing out of the game.
We also have the color table information you're looking for, as we use
it to have Starcraft draw colored circles around the units anyone has
selected, using their own color. Thus if player Blue clicks on your
hatchery or something, a blue circle will appear around it on your
screen. Same as the circles you see in team melee, only they're
colored to match the owner index.
Just some of the features, nearly all features are toggleable by a
keypress or /cmd:
full map - main and mini
attack destination marks -- draws a little 'x' wherever any unit has a
destination
converts rally-move to attack-move. set a rally point for your
hatcheries in enemy base, pump cracklings like mad, and when they
hatch and start running with MOVE, the hack converts them to
attack-move.
auto-mining .. as each worker is created at a
workerfactory(hatch,nexus,cc), it is given orders to gather from the
nearest available mineral patch that doesnt already have the ideal
number of workers assigned to it, as calculated by distance function
from the workerfactory.
auto-unally -- if someone unallies you in a game, this notifies you
on-screen, unallies them and turns off vision to them. the ultimate
anti-backstab.
playerinfo -- like yours, tells minerals, gas, allies, enemies, and
allied victory settings of a person. currently i dont display supply
or usage but easily could(0x006b6000).
Hmm, I don't feel like listing anymore right now. We're always
looking for the intelligent discussion of above-average programmers.
We have about 27-28 members, most of which are programmers, network
engineers, technicians, highly computer literate people.
We host the battle.net bot development forum, and our clan members
make most of the bots of any decency, now and in the past.
Adron - nbbot, ebbot, etc, the original binary bots
Azure - WoLF`C`Bot - first real channel war chat bot
Azure - lbbot - first binary bot for linux
Chewbacca - Chewbot
DarkMinion - vLBBot, DMBot
King - UltimateBot
and on and on
http://www.valhallalegends.com
http://chewbot.valhallalegends.com
Battle.Net: use-bncs02.battle.net
Channel: Clan [vL]
We're highly exclusive, and are quick to ban anyone who misrepresents
their abilities. Very few that want to join will get in, but in over
28 months, only 3 people have quit our clan out of the 35 that joined
so far.
Grok[vL]
>around with the RAM poker in a game against only computers trying to
>find out which memory address has stored what color you are (Still
>haven't found it) and cloaked my main hatchery. At first I didn't
>notice it. Then the computer rushed me with lings lots rines and had
>me down to that last hatchery but never attacked it. Unfortunately
>ChristianM, ICQ: 70548829
By the way, what you did was change the owner id of the hatchery from
your id to that of one of the computers. Once you did that, its
vision was calculated and displayed from the perspective of not being
yours, and that's why the enemy didn't attack it, it was an allied
building.
Note that had you done that in a multiplayer game, it would have
immediately desync'd and disconnected you from the other players.
ChristianM
wrote:
But that can't be it, because my workers were returning cargo to it.
Unless the building can belong to the enemy while maintaining it's use
as a resource return center for me?
ChristianM
wrote:
>On Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:02:01 GMT, mdomi...@comcast.net (ChristianM)
And BTW your bot was so nice as to autoban me when I entered the
channel. Maybe I came at a bad time?
Grok[vL]
What username? I'll set flags for you as a friend.
Grok[vL]
OK, must have been something else. Your workers would stop returning
minerals to it if it changed ownerid.
ChristianM
ordered a probe to warp in the following text:
ChristianM
Grok[vL]
Fixed. You at least won't be auto-banned by channel protection. I
can't speak for your safety from the members though :)