#game-jam-2024-02-06

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Channel: #game-jam
Date: 2024-02-06
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@gobousei#0 - 2024-02-05 20:49
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aionmagan#0
2024-02-05 02:26:54.143000
what did you do to make it fit ? and what is the strip main thing you are talking about
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After the assets are loaded, there is still enough free space to store the discarded level and the executable. On page 40 of the user guide there is an explanation on how much memory is usable. We can store data from 0x80090000 to 0x801fff00. The last file, NY.TIM, is stored at 0x800f8c40. Adding its size in bytes, the next available address is 0x800ffc90. 0x801fff00 0x800ffc90 space left. Theres almost 1 megabyte of free memory after the last tim. Thats enough for the exe and more levels. When adding more files, remember to update the memory address on your makefile, on the line that says LINKER. Maybe the problem was that your exe was overwriting the last level. It is updated on the makefile I uploaded. This address should be the loading address of the last file + its size. You also had the strip line commented on your makefile, I ran it manually. It removes unnecesary data from the exe for the final version making it smaller.
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@aionmagan#0 - 2024-02-06 02:51
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gobousei#0
2024-02-05 20:49:14.330000
After the assets are loaded, there is still enough free space to store the discarded level and the executable. On page 40 of the user guide there is an explanation on how much memory is usable. We can store data from 0x80090000 to 0x801fff00. The last file, NY.TIM, is stored at 0x800f8c40. Adding its size in bytes, the next available address is 0x800ffc90. 0x801fff00 0x800ffc90 space left. Theres almost 1 megabyte of free memory after the last tim. Thats enough for the exe and more levels. When adding more files, remember to update the memory address on your makefile, on the line that says LINKER. Maybe the problem was that your exe was overwriting the last level. It is updated on the makefile I uploaded. This address should be the loading address of the last file + its size. You also had the strip line commented on your makefile, I ran it manually. It removes unnecesary data from the exe for the final version making it smaller.
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thanks for all the help
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@aionmagan#0 - 2024-02-06 02:51
updated the game
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@aionmagan#0 - 2024-02-06 02:51
https://aionmagan.itch.io/mike-visor
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@aionmagan#0 - 2024-02-06 02:52
and added credits, but i dont know your name so i added your discord name
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@aionmagan#0 - 2024-02-06 02:52
also added @mike.garcia into credits
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 09:23

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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 09:24
I liked the subtle Mike but the plural me is good too
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 09:29
Very gracious of you @aionmagan truly an honor
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@aionmagan#0 - 2024-02-06 09:36
my bad, will fix later
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@gobousei#0 - 2024-02-06 20:42
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aionmagan#0
2024-02-06 02:52:22.554000
also added @mike.garcia into credits
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Thanks. Its really impressive how fast youve learned to code for the playstation and the game is already a Net Yaroze classic.
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@molit#0 - 2024-02-06 20:43
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gobousei#0
2024-02-06 20:42:58.335000
Thanks. Its really impressive how fast youve learned to code for the playstation and the game is already a Net Yaroze classic.
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Classic? Already? lol Time goes by too fast
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 21:03
every Net Yaroze game is a classic
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 21:30
but we can always argue about the dev time on the title screen!
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 21:31
1 month?!?! no waaaay
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@molit#0 - 2024-02-06 21:32
haha
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@molit#0 - 2024-02-06 21:32
for those on the 40s 1 month is like 1 day
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@molit#0 - 2024-02-06 21:32

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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 21:33
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molit#0
2024-02-06 21:32:20.985000
for those on the 40s 1 month is like 1 day
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100%
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 21:36
the slow down is real
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@molit#0 - 2024-02-06 21:36
slow down? the time!! I have no time to work... and when I have it I need to rest
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@molit#0 - 2024-02-06 21:36
lol
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 21:37
rest? pump iron instead
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 21:39
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gobousei#0
2024-02-06 20:42:58.335000
Thanks. Its really impressive how fast youve learned to code for the playstation and the game is already a Net Yaroze classic.
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he learnt from the best
whats left from Net Yaroze
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@molit#0 - 2024-02-06 21:40
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mike.garcia#0
2024-02-06 21:37:45.756000
rest? pump iron instead
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I want to survive until 50s
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@molit#0 - 2024-02-06 21:40
lol
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@molit#0 - 2024-02-06 21:40
and yeah! in 3 years it is our 30th anniversay!!
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@molit#0 - 2024-02-06 21:40
lol
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@molit#0 - 2024-02-06 21:41
special game jam for 2027?
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@molit#0 - 2024-02-06 21:41

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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 21:41
Lol, every game jam is special
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 21:41
the fact that there is one
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 21:42
is special
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 21:43
I think @aionmagan needs to learn about how credits work in the creative industry
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 21:43
well these days anyway
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 21:43
you credit everyone, everyone!
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 21:45
or credit only yourself because 2020s is all about narcissism
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 21:48
I always try to put links to source code copied or book sources in my code, I rarely see others doing the same
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@aionmagan#0 - 2024-02-06 22:17
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gobousei#0
2024-02-06 20:42:58.335000
Thanks. Its really impressive how fast youve learned to code for the playstation and the game is already a Net Yaroze classic.
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It was very fun coding for the ps1 after the initial frustration
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@aionmagan#0 - 2024-02-06 22:18
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mike.garcia#0
2024-02-06 21:31:44.440000
1 month?!?! no waaaay
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That is the evidence of how lazy i really am xD jajaja
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@molit#0 - 2024-02-06 22:27
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aionmagan#0
2024-02-06 22:17:07.719000
It was very fun coding for the ps1 after the initial frustration
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Only initial? I am still frustrated from time to time
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@molit#0 - 2024-02-06 22:27
Lol
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@aionmagan#0 - 2024-02-06 22:35
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mike.garcia#0
2024-02-06 21:48:52.098000
I always try to put links to source code copied or book sources in my code, I rarely see others doing the same
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I dont, because everyone also includes the people that wrote the compilers and documentation and computer os and such,

Once you turn on your pc there is millions involved in every coding project including the teachers from school that taught me the fundamental.math needed, so i have a hierarchy of importance,

my license agreements, collabs and good friends

Because once you have learned something that new found knowledge is now yours unless there is a legal or license agreement (which his why you dont need to credit the school you learned it from)

Now if someone offered a text file i can copy and paste with all the credited people from net yaroze then Im down to paste, no problem with me
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@aionmagan#0 - 2024-02-06 22:36
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molit#0
2024-02-06 22:27:31.216000
Only initial? I am still frustrated from time to time
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There is only 1 part that still frustrates me, i cant talk to the gte directly for vectors
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 22:39
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aionmagan#0
2024-02-06 22:35:59.424000
I dont, because everyone also includes the people that wrote the compilers and documentation and computer os and such,

Once you turn on your pc there is millions involved in every coding project including the teachers from school that taught me the fundamental.math needed, so i have a hierarchy of importance,

my license agreements, collabs and good friends

Because once you have learned something that new found knowledge is now yours unless there is a legal or license agreement (which his why you dont need to credit the school you learned it from)

Now if someone offered a text file i can copy and paste with all the credited people from net yaroze then Im down to paste, no problem with me
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I think the common thing to do is credit anyone that has been spoken (or via text) about the game while in development, thats why they are massive these days.
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@aionmagan#0 - 2024-02-06 22:40
@molit whats your name?
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 22:40
so asking someone a question online, that person is in the credits, usually in a thank you... but they werent directly involved... its safer to have more on the credit then to not include
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@aionmagan#0 - 2024-02-06 22:40
Tony!!
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 22:41
who is Tony?
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@aionmagan#0 - 2024-02-06 22:41
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mike.garcia#0
2024-02-06 22:40:54.371000
so asking someone a question online, that person is in the credits, usually in a thank you... but they werent directly involved... its safer to have more on the credit then to not include
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I agree with this
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@aionmagan#0 - 2024-02-06 22:41
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mike.garcia#0
2024-02-06 22:41:12.101000
who is Tony?
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Its an old video meme thing from my younger days xD jajaja
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 22:42
ah
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@aionmagan#0 - 2024-02-06 22:45
@molit Credits updated
https://aionmagan.itch.io/mike-visor
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@aionmagan#0 - 2024-02-06 22:51
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1018850045107376238/1204560011167014912/2024-02-0618-48-32.mp4?ex65d52cee&is65c2b7ee&hm75649ab5fff45c49ab1591d121090b8a47b47f01898f1be72475f0fbea7a31d6&
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the game is already ported to PC but im considering not releasing it
and just releasing the Dreamcast Version (its also already running)
am also working on porting it to GameCube
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 22:53
very impressive!
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 22:54
man, you are a machine!
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 22:55
I would leave them at 10 levels as a demo, then make the real game into a commercial thing, thats my 2c
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@aionmagan#0 - 2024-02-06 22:57
i would, but i dont think i have the passion to make commercial games to be honest, plus a 1 man dev team isnt really all that fun unless you are sharing with someone the progress and such
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 23:01
I would recommend doing it, even if its just $1 game, just so you can say youve done it, besides, it looks polished, you just have to spend a few weeks on new levels/enemies/music
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@mike.garcia#0 - 2024-02-06 23:02
I was considering doing it for yarmico1/2, start on itch, if it makes $100, then put it on steam, if it makes 500, put it on switch
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@aionmagan#0 - 2024-02-06 23:04
thats a really good idea actually, i may keep it in mind if i try to make a commercial game
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@molit#0 - 2024-02-06 23:18
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mike.garcia#0
2024-02-06 22:41:12.101000
who is Tony?
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it can be me
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@molit#0 - 2024-02-06 23:18
lol
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