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Chocobo

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Jan 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/19/99
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I spoke to a good friend of Valle's over the weekend, and asked him what

Valle thought of the level of east coast competition. Since this is
California, and all
answers go through a level of Cali speak, I thought I would translate
them
into English.

Q: What does Valle think of the level of US competition?
What he said
East coast players are crap, and they did not have the knowledge to
maintain the same
level of play.

What that means
East coast players suck ass.

Q: What did Valle think of his match with Eddie Lee? What he said Valle
played the
first game to evaluate Eddie's knowledge and limits. After the first
millisecond,
Valle realized he could control the situation with any character. (He
then proceeded
to give a Magic analogy). Imagine you (Valle) are playing a sligh deck.
Your
opponent is playing another deck. The first game, you don't play pup,
flunkie, ball lightning, fireblash, and blow him out of the water in 2
secs.
You hold back so you can see his small, pathetic deck. Then you blow him
out of the water.

What that means (note, this is pretty directly said for a Californian,
thus the
meaning is quite clear). Valle was just dicking around with Eddie the
whole
game. He knew after the first round that he could finish him off
anytime. He
just played around, and didn't even care that he lost the first match.

Anyways, the view from California is that the US sucks ass, and Valle
beat the
shit out of everyone. And sorry, Henry Cen, but Valle was just messing
around the first game. After the first round, Valle knew he could win
whenever he wanted.

Don't get mad at me, I'm just the bringer of bad news :). On the other
hand,
don't get discouraged.. not all Cali players are as good as Valle :)


MCTek

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Jan 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/19/99
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<entire post snipped>

that's it, I just wanted to snip the entire post. Actually, Choc, I wanted
to do that to the other post but there was already replies for it so it was
too late ^_^.

-MCTek

Javier Moreno

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Jan 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/20/99
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>Q: What does Valle think of the level of US competition?
>What he said
>East coast players are crap, and they did not have the knowledge to
>maintain the same
>level of play.
>
>What that means
>East coast players suck ass.


Chocobo: You have failed to mention the Gulf Coast. (Remember? THe Gulf
of Mexico? Texas? Hello?) Anyone who knows something that Texas playas
are something to be reckoned with.

>Anyways, the view from California is that the US sucks ass, and Valle
>beat the
>shit out of everyone.

Heh, even if it is a humorous post, it is close to the truth, but not
EXACTLY.
Javier Moreno
"Javi" on mIRC and in real life!!!!!
jav...@hotmail.com and http://members.tripod.com/Javi3422/Javi.html


Kimaiko

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Jan 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/20/99
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If Valle said that then he's nothing more thatan arrogant bastard.
What about the people who's lives are too busy to travel and partake in video
game tourneys (some of us have real jobs). I've seen Valle play on a few tapes,
and let me tell you, he isn't that good. He has a lotta weaknesses, and i could
dismantle him very easily. East coast West coast, what the hell is this, rap?!
So go ahead Cali players, talk your shit if you want to, just know that there's
someone in Connecticut that would embarrass you if you ever laid a hand on my
local SF machine. You know what, I'm gonna start entering some of these
tourneys. When I'm through, Cali's gonna be wiped off the map.
V.S. Games are for people with absolutely no skill.
Button mashing leads to one of these 3 things:
1.) You win (having nothing to do with what you were doing)
2.) You lose (wasting yet another 50 cents)
3.) You break the controller and infuse a riot.

BOB13

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Jan 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/20/99
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Kimaiko wrote:

> If Valle said that then he's nothing more thatan arrogant bastard.

Valle didn't say it. It was a parody of the post Daigo's take. It should still be
on your mail server or at least on Dejanews. Look it up. Besides, met Valle once.
Nice guy. Kinda quiet and smiles alot but wasn't rude. Kicked the crap outta my
dhalsim with V-charlie

> What about the people who's lives are too busy to travel and partake in video
> game tourneys (some of us have real jobs).

Most tourney players are college students and have part time jobs. This takes as
much if not more time than a full time job. Excuses like "I'm too busy to travel
for a tournament." is a bullshit excuse. If you wanted to you'll find a way there.
Your on the east Coast. A fairly big tourney wouldn't be more then a couple hour
drive away. You just need to look for it. No Need to fly. No real excuse.

> I've seen Valle play on a few tapes,
> and let me tell you, he isn't that good. He has a lotta weaknesses, and i could
> dismantle him very easily.

It's easy too say that when you watch a video but when you play it's a different
story. Prove that valle has some weaknesses. Something like when he does a low
forward-fireball he always throws a second fireball kind of weakness.Or when he's
cornered he panics.Besides both east coast and west coast players who have
personally played him have attested to his skills. Until you personally work Valle
at a tournament you can't say "I could dismantle him easily" That's just scrub talk
unless you can back it up.

> East coast West coast, what the hell is this, rap?!
> So go ahead Cali players, talk your shit if you want to,

Chocobo wrote the original post. I'm fairly sure that he's from the east coast.
Stupid West Coast Bastards (note sarcasm).

> just know that there's
> someone in Connecticut that would embarrass you if you ever laid a hand on my
> local SF machine. You know what, I'm gonna start entering some of these
> tourneys.

Good. In fact there are weekly Tournaments in New York City, That's not a very far
drive from Connecticut. In Fact that's a babies drive compared to some of the Cali
players who need to drive to SHGL. So prove yourself in the next couple of
tournaments and win that prize money for that plane ticket. Then when the next
tourney takes place in SHGL (february I think) You have no excuses about money
since your just gonna whoop everyone at those new york tournies.

> When I'm through, Cali's gonna be wiped off the map.

It doesn't count when you tear part of the page out of your geography book. snip
sig.

James Margaris

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Jan 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/21/99
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I
>Most tourney players are college students and have part time jobs. This takes
> as
>much if not more time than a full time job. Excuses like "I'm too busy to
> travel
>for a tournament." is a bullshit excuse. If you wanted to you'll find a way
> there.
>Your on the east Coast. A fairly big tourney wouldn't be more then a couple
> hour
>drive away. You just need to look for it. No Need to fly. No real excuse.
>

Just a question: Is "I graduate from college that day" a good excuse?


James M

Kenta20

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Jan 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/21/99
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>Good. In fact there are weekly Tournaments in New York City, That's not a
>very far
>drive from Connecticut. In Fact that's a babies drive compared to some of the
>Cali
>players who need to drive to SHGL. So prove yourself in the next couple of
>tournaments and win that prize money for that plane ticket. Then when the
>next
>tourney takes place in SHGL (february I think) You have no excuses about
>money
>since your just gonna whoop everyone at those new york tournies.
>
>> When I'm through, Cali's gonna be wiped off the map.
>
>It doesn't count when you tear part of the page out of your geography book.
>snip
>sig.
>

If this guy comes to a SHGL tournament and beats Alex Valle I'll pay for his
trip home and give him an additional $100 for his time. I'm sure this person's
post is just a joke anyhows.

win...@bellatlantic.net

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Jan 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/21/99
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In article <36A6CD81...@earthlink.net>,
BOB13 <tn...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> Kimaiko wrote:

> Chocobo wrote the original post. I'm fairly sure that he's from the east
coast.
> Stupid West Coast Bastards (note sarcasm).

Actually, he's from Richmond Virginia. To say that he's a jobber in the SF
competitive scene wouldn't be too far off. ^_^

> Good. In fact there are weekly Tournaments in New York City, That's not a very
far
> drive from Connecticut. In Fact that's a babies drive compared to some of the
Cali
> players who need to drive to SHGL. So prove yourself in the next couple of
> tournaments and win that prize money for that plane ticket. Then when the next
> tourney takes place in SHGL (february I think) You have no excuses about money
> since your just gonna whoop everyone at those new york tournies.

Actually, the tournaments are held an hour away from NYC at an arcade called
"Eight on the Break" in Dunellen, NJ. I know because I run these tournaments.
Gametime Arcade in Alexandria, VA and "The Break" are the two main arcade
sites that have been driving the East Coast SF tournament scene as of recent.
Now that Gametime is beginning to have weekly tournaments after seeing the
sucess The Break has had over the last six years, hopefully we'll see a
stronger urge from players to compete.

> > When I'm through, Cali's gonna be wiped off the map.

Damn, you should've been out in Virginia last month when Alex was out here
for the Gametime tournament. You could have had your opportunity then. Oh
well, the ECC4 is coming in the next few months and John Choi might be
showing up for it. It might not be Alex, but still an effective opponent to
stake your claim of "wiping Cali." Good luck.

Todd Dwyer
Tournament Director - Street Fighter East Coast Championships 4
ecc4di...@hotmail.com
www.fastwww.com/thebreak/ecc4.htm

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Javier Moreno

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Jan 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/23/99
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> If Valle said that then he's nothing more thatan arrogant
bastard.

It's a humorous post, asshole.


I've seen Valle play on a few tapes,
>and let me tell you, he isn't that good. He has a lotta weaknesses, and i
could

>dismantle him very easily. East coast West coast, what the hell is this,
rap?!

The way you talk, it looks like you can't even beat ME.


Javier Moreno
"Javi" in mIRC and in real life!!!


WhoaMoses

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Jan 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/23/99
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>
>> If Valle said that then he's nothing more thatan arrogant
>bastard.
>
>It's a humorous post, asshole.
>
>
>I've seen Valle play on a few tapes,
>>and let me tell you, he isn't that good. He has a lotta weaknesses, and i
>could
>>dismantle him very easily. East coast West coast, what the hell is this,
>rap?!
>
>The way you talk, it looks like you can't even beat ME.

Hey, don't insult my friend! He's an idiot who makes rash posts me doesn't mean
too!

Javier Moreno

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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>>The way you talk, it looks like you can't even beat ME.
>
>Hey, don't insult my friend! He's an idiot who makes rash posts me doesn't
mean
>too!

Well, you said it yourself. He's an idiot. Almost like you, and more
of your recent posts....

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