Is Sagat dead?
Wendy Chew
Sagat is dead now in Street Fighter III
Jon Allegrezza
BionicTuna wrote:
> >
> >Sagat is dead now in Street Fighter III
>
> How do you know this...
> i was really suprised that Sagat wasn't in SF3 ( i knew every body else but ken
> and ryu would be gone) chun li's coming back tho!
>
> But this "Death of Sagat" thing could be revealed in the next SF series (the
> one that'll defenately replace Alpha/Zero after A3... and will take place in
> between sf2 and 3)
> my gut feeling ..
>
> -bionictuna-
The only three confirmed fatalities in SFdom are Charlie (sorry Ferral...I'm
looking forward to seeing how Bison goes for kill number 3 on Kenny in his Alpha 3
ending), Chun Li's and Dan's fathers. Personally I dont think anyone "dies" per
say in the SF series. I just believe they either don't participate anymore or they
aren't in the "bulk" (probebly coulda used a better word there) of the story, (like
Adon in Elena's stage in SF3, he's just keeps doing his thing.) Sagat, for now,
probebly just doesn't tour the world anymore looking for Ryu. He either got his
revenge on Ryu, or swallowed his pride, reliezed a loss is a loss and its not the
end of the world, and doesn't care anymore.
But as you said, future SFs could revel a completely different outcome.
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BionicTuna
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>
> The only three confirmed fatalities in SFdom are Charlie (sorry Ferral...I'm
> looking forward to seeing how Bison goes for kill number 3 on Kenny in his
Alpha 3
> ending), Chun Li's and Dan's fathers. Personally I dont think anyone "dies"
per
> say in the SF series. I just believe they either don't participate anymore or
they
> aren't in the "bulk" (probebly coulda used a better word there) of the story,
(like
> Adon in Elena's stage in SF3, he's just keeps doing his thing.)
Even then Charlie came back as an undead cyber fighter and even Dan's dad came
back as a super in Pocket Fighter.
So who's next? Akuma's brother? Ryu's master? Chun Li's dad?
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i dunno about that. you know what they did with 2. maybe we'll see an alpha 3 championship edition. heh heh. or maybe SUPER alpha 3, and S alpha 3 turbo. heh.... but then again, maybe we'll get alpha 3 rainbow edition.... heh heh. that would be great.
Dave Litchman
In article <359BCB1F...@tiac.net>, heyi...@tiac.net says...
>Sagat, for now,
>probebly just doesn't tour the world anymore looking for Ryu. He either got
his
>revenge on Ryu, or swallowed his pride, reliezed a loss is a loss and its not
th
>e
>end of the world, and doesn't care anymore.
>But as you said, future SFs could revel a completely different outcome.
I bet Sagat got sick of getting his ass kicked at the hands (or feet) of Ryu,
gave up street fighting and became a homeless alcoholic on the streets of New
York. I can see it now...
Sagat: Hey buddy, can you spare a quarter for some coffee?
Passerby: Get a job you bum!
Sagat: Tigerrrrr.... GENOCIDE!!!
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Jon Allegrezza
> Even then Charlie came back as an undead cyber fighter and even Dan's dad came
> back as a super in Pocket Fighter.
X-Men vs SF and Pocket Fighter are completely different side story "what if"
situations made up for fun and profit. Whatever goes down in those games makes no
impact on the SF storyline (or else Bison would be killng Charlie for a FOURTH time
in a fourth completely different way). The games that make up the real SF storyline
are SF1, SFA3 (going on the belief that each in this series replaces past events),
SSF2T (ditto), SF3: 2I (ditto ditto)
>
>
> So who's next? Akuma's brother? Ryu's master? Chun Li's dad?
Can't believe I forgot Gouken and Goutestu...make that five confirmed fatalities.
Its quite possible we can see them in some VS game in the future. Bring back dead
Marvel characters, throw a real Charlie, Gouken, Goutestu, and the rest of the dead
in a new VS game. That way we get to see and use them in action without it totally
screwing things up storylinewise even more than they are now.
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Krool.
Dave Litchman wrote:
> In article <359BCB1F...@tiac.net>, heyi...@tiac.net says...
> >Sagat, for now,
> >probebly just doesn't tour the world anymore looking for Ryu. He either got
> his
> >revenge on Ryu, or swallowed his pride, reliezed a loss is a loss and its not
> th
> >e
> >end of the world, and doesn't care anymore.
> >But as you said, future SFs could revel a completely different outcome.
>
> I bet Sagat got sick of getting his ass kicked at the hands (or feet) of Ryu,
> gave up street fighting and became a homeless alcoholic on the streets of New
> York. I can see it now...
>
> Sagat: Hey buddy, can you spare a quarter for some coffee?
>
> Passerby: Get a job you bum!
>
> Sagat: Tigerrrrr.... GENOCIDE!!!
nah, he decided hed go to hollywood and do a movie about his life...out pops the
kickboxer series....sad, they then cast him for sf2 movie starring alongside
vandamme...moves to columbia and is never seen again
Krool.
BionicTuna
>The games that make up the real SF storyline
>are SF1, SFA3 (going on the belief that each in this series replaces past
>events),
>SSF2T (ditto), SF3: 2I (ditto ditto)
>
>
According to a Nick Rox post a while back, capcom themselves said the Alpha
games never actually took place...
the official story is only SF 1, 2 and 3...
-bionictuna-
WuStevekwn
okay... heres my stand on all this...
The confirmed fatalities are
Gouken >
Gouetsu > Both killed by akuma
Dans Dad
Chuns Dad> Both killed by Bison
and charlie is waving around... hes sorta dead.
Responding to another article, if Alpha didnt count, then EX certainly didnt
count... and if thats true, then what happened to Guile?? and sagat too? I
think there should be like a SF dreams set or something with old characters w/
new, like balrog, dudley, akuma, guy, guile, alex, zangief, hugo, urien, vega,
etc. But you cant play as akuma. just against him. now THATS a game!
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UGZ Otaku
>According to a Nick Rox post a while back, capcom themselves said the Alpha
>games never actually took place...
>the official story is only SF 1, 2 and 3...
>
>
Yeah, and the player has the choice to decide if they want the Alpha/Zero
series to count as part of the story.
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BionicTuna
>okay... heres my stand on all this...
>The confirmed fatalities are
>Gouken >
>Gouetsu > Both killed by akuma
>Dans Dad
>Chuns Dad> Both killed by Bison
>and charlie is waving around... hes sorta dead.
I can see gouken making an appearance in sf4...
but let's not worry about 4 yet!
-bionictuna-
The Allemans
Chun-li's dad, Dorai-li, was killed by Cammy (Bison hired Cammy to
assassinate Dorai because he was too close to his Interpol Investigation of
ShadowLaw), and Dan's dad, Gouhibiki, was killed by Sagat (Sagat killed
Gouhibiki because he punched out his eye with the koryuken). As for Sagat,
there's no mention of him in the storyline after SF2, so I wouldn't hold
your breath (the one in SFA doesn't count, because in the storyline, that
comes before SF2). One question...... if Bison had Charlie shot in
Venezuela in Street Fighter Alpha 2...... WTF IS HE DOING IN SFA3?!!!!!
--Ken
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Mega Dan
The Allemans wrote in message <3hot1.1041$4P6.1...@newsfeed.slurp.net>...
>One question...... if Bison had Charlie shot in
>Venezuela in Street Fighter Alpha 2...... WTF IS HE DOING IN SFA3?!!!!!
>--Ken
We will never know.. You also have to seem to notice in EVERY game
Charlie seems to die by the hands of Vega (Bison) or if not all the games,
most.
- Mega Dan "Apocalypse has trnaformed me!!"
FUSON 909
Li's dad must have watched the anime series,which was WAY OFF the SF storyline.
RutgersGym
J.F.
RD
>
>The Allemans wrote in message <3hot1.1041$4P6.1...@newsfeed.slurp.net>...
>>One question...... if Bison had Charlie shot in
>>Venezuela in Street Fighter Alpha 2...... WTF IS HE DOING IN SFA3?!!!!!
>>--Ken
> We will never know.. You also have to seem to notice in EVERY game
>Charlie seems to die by the hands of Vega (Bison) or if not all the games,
>most.
I always took it that the SFA's replaced each other, maybe it's really
one SF'ers journey through time collecting information and updating it
as he finds out more, to eventually become the boss in the next SF
game =).
Ultima
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The Allemans wrote:
Whoever this guy is, he must have broken a record for the most number of
posts from a newbie... And on this NG, that's not necessarily a good
thing...
> Wrong, BionicTuna, neither Chun-li's dad or Dan's dad were killed by Bison. Chun-li's dad, Dorai-li, was killed by Cammy (Bison hired Cammy to
> assassinate Dorai because he was too close to his Interpol Investigation of ShadowLaw), and Dan's dad, Gouhibiki, was killed by Sagat (Sagat killed Gouhibiki because he punched out his eye with the koryuken).
Somebody doesn't realise that SF2V isn't canon. I suppose you're going
to try and convince me that Cammy is older than Chun Li..? Yeah, right.
AS far as the real story is concerned, Bison killed Chunny's father
(also note that at the end of SF2V, Dorai was still alive, so it's not
improbably that Bison came back and finished the job himself at a later
date). Quoting SF2V doesn't help...
Gou Hibiki is two words, not one.
> As for Sagat, there's no mention of him in the storyline after SF2, so I wouldn't hold your breath (the one in SFA doesn't count, because in the storyline, that comes before SF2). One question...... if Bison had Charlie shot in Venezuela in Street Fighter Alpha 2...... WTF IS HE DOING IN SFA3?!!!!!
The Alphas replace each other. It's like Super SF2 Turbo, the final
version of SF2, is the "real" version storywise. What happens to Charlie
in one doesn't mean anything in the sequel...
However, while SFA2 definitely replaces SFA1, I'm not too sure about
SFA3 - there definitely seems to be some kind of progression from SFA2
(Adon seeking Akuma for example). If I didn't know better, I'd swear
that SFA3 was trying to replace SF2 (only GUile is missing from the
original 12, and there are several elements taken from the SF2 anime).
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RD wrote in message <35b65b5...@news.psu.edu>...
>> We will never know.. You also have to seem to notice in EVERY game
>>Charlie seems to die by the hands of Vega (Bison) or if not all the games,
>>most.
>
>I always took it that the SFA's replaced each other, maybe it's really
>one SF'ers journey through time collecting information and updating it
>as he finds out more, to eventually become the boss in the next SF
>game =).
Well, you may have a point there, well, you are probably right! (for
example Dan wants to defeat Sagat "twice")
- Mega Dan "I'm sorry, no, YOU are!"
JDBerg1031
>wouldn't hold your breath (the one in SFA doesn't count, because in the
>storyline, that comes before SF2). One question...... if Bison had Charlie
>shot in Venezuela in Street Fighter Alpha 2...... WTF IS HE DOING IN
>SFA3?!!!!!
>
>The Alphas replace each other. It's like Super SF2 Turbo, the final
>version of SF2, is the "real" version storywise. What happens to Charlie
>in one doesn't mean anything in the sequel...
>
>
I agree with that. I always thought of The Alpha games being the same
tournament, with all these new people showing up late or something. It's not
just charlie dying and Dan constantly going for revenge, EVERY character has
been operating on the same storyline since Alpha one, and in some cases the,
original SF2.
Ziggy