Midwest Tournament
Caine Schneider
>Hey, how did the tournament go BTW? See anything new? Anything interesting?
Well, I made it to the finals. My only defeat in the preliminaries was
to a guy named Eli. I guess is the the best player in Chicago. He really
cleaned me out when I played Ryu and Zangief. Before that loss I had two
relatively easy fights. After the loss (I was in the loser's bracket) I
had several tougher fights, but managed to win them without much trouble.
The best fights before the finals for me was a fight against that Paul
guy from UIC. That match lasted forever, and I was heavily strained to
keep my patience in it, but I managed to pull it off.
The previous fight was against a Guile that Brian Odom barely defeated in
three games with Dhalsim. I saw a little bit of it (there were a ton of
people around watching), but I could tell it was always close. Anyways,
this guy gave Odom a tough time, and thought I was in for a strangulation
match with this guy. It was a lot easier than I expected. He sure did
ming a lot. I got like four four-hit combos on him. I beat him in five
rounds.
There were five brackets of 32 people. Some people had byes. Me and Odom
were in the orange bracket. Ben and Ming were in the white. Seth was in
yet another one. This was good since we would rarely have to fight each
other.
The finalists in each bracket and the loser's bracket champ from each of
those five brackets advanced. There was one more spot. That spot was
reserved another elimination bracket, filled by the people defeated by
the loser's bracket champ (I was a loser's bracket champ, Odom was 2nd,
and that Eli guy was 1st in my bracket). Ben Hayek was one of the five
people with a last chance to make it to the finals, and he pulled it
off. Paul (Sagat from UIC) was in that bracket. I don't know all what
happened there, but I know Ben won.
Incidentally, the white bracket had the infamous Mike Watson from LA. He
is like the #3 or something guy in California. He is worthy of that title,
and if Tomo is better than him, it would be hard to see how...
Anyways, the white bracket had Ben losing in the third round. Ming was the
only UIUC person to advance to the 4th round in the winner's bracket. Ming
had to face Watson as his 4th round opponent and really got smashed. This
loss put Ming fighting Ben in the loser's bracket for the finals of the
loser's bracket. Ben won vs. Ming, and then lost the next fight. He still
had a chance to make the finals, and did with a few more wins vs. the other
losers from the loser's bracket finals.
So, it was me, Ben, and Odom in the finals. This is weird since I think
I won twice in the finals but I don't remember. Anyways, I had a rematch
with Eli. I picked Sagat and beat his Ryu 2-1 in the first game. He then
pulls out Vega (!?). I walked all over him 2-0. The third match he went
back to Ryu. I lost 2-1 in close competition. It was my move. Close it
or lose it. I pulled off the upset (in their opinion anyway) beating him
2-1 Sagat over Ryu. Ben lost his first fight, but don't know what happened
after that. Odom won his first his first match, and the rest I am unsure
about. Anyways, my 2md (or 3rd?) match up in the finals was vs. Watson.
He picked Ryu predictably. I took a round from him, but he was up 1-0.
I need to win 3 of the next 4, but was never able to get going at all.
He played a 'stall' Ryu, faking about 10 times for every move (like Tom
Cannon mentioned months ago). I lost the rest of the rounds, winning only
1 of 7 rounds. The guy who was running the tournament appeared surprised
everytime I came up and told him I won, and was likewise surprised to hear
I won a round from him. Oh well, if I could have beaten Eli that first
time, I would have matched up with Odom, and had a better seed in the
finals to avoid fighting Watson so soon.
After my loss, I was in shock. I had never seen something that good. I
went to the loser's bracket, and fought this Chun Li. He easily dispatched
me in 6 rounds. I played Ryu twice a Bison once vs. him. After the fight
he said I should have picked Sagat. Maybe so. That was it for me. Ben
didn't last any longer than I did, and Odom probably made it one or two more
fights before getting eliminated.
All the finalists (except the wild card guy, Ben) got a Capcom t-shirt
with the SSF2T logo and that Goki (?) guy on the back. Considering the
number of out-of-staters there, I think we did well. Seth counted people
from no less than 12 states, including New York, California, Ohio, Wisconsin,
and Minnesota.
Seth commented about this one Ken from Minnesota. He said he was the best
Ken he'd ever seen. I didn't watch him play, but he kept winning, so he
must be a lot better than most people give Ken credit for.
By the time I had lost and was out of contention, it was midnight. I was
tired. I was ready to go. Later I found out that there were supposed to
more fights to determine the actual placement of the final 16 people. Not
sure of where I would have been had I won, but I figure around 12th or so.
Of all the things about the tournament, I realized how I can really play.
I never play like I did in the tournament. I played once before it
actually began (the rest of the time I played the new Turbo). I learned
how to play Sagat the right way. It is hard, and takes incredible patience
and spacing. I now know that I can do it. All the time playing here
went down the pipes, and have modified how I play quite a bit with Sagat
and Ryu.
On the Turbo, Ben and I switched rounds for about 1/2 hour beating the hell
out of people. We threw a lot. I mean a lot. 5 throws every two rounds is
a lot. We would do Super FB ticks on the opponent, and use his new rushing
punch as a way to tick. It was amusing, and people were getting pissed.
One guy even said we'd get shot in New York for doing that. I told that
guy that's how we play, and to live with it. Ryu is the best guy in the
version. We saw a really handy application of Zangief's Green Hand move.
Snuff a FB with it if the opponent is 1/2 screen away. The projectile
delay will give you plenty of time to SPD after it. Z's super pile driver
move would be easy to pull off after this move.
I didn't pay much attention to the rest of the tournament. I liked to
play the Turbo game, so I concentrated on that.
As a side note, Seth won 40 consecutive fights during the practice time.
I think we would have done better, but there was such a high caliber of
players there, it was hard to avoid losing. If there were only people
from the surrounding region, we would have been fine. I think most of
the losses we had were to out of state people.
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http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~cs3633/home.html
caine schneider cai...@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Science Applications International Corp
So who won with what character from where? I mean, the whole ball of wax,
first place?
Craig
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Bob Leck
le...@orvb.saic.com
Brian Odom
>Thomas Calvin Cannon [ink...@leland.Stanford.EDU] wrote:
>>Hey, how did the tournament go BTW? See anything new? Anything interesting?
>Well, I made it to the finals. My only defeat in the preliminaries was
>to a guy named Eli. I guess is the the best player in Chicago. He really
>cleaned me out when I played Ryu and Zangief. Before that loss I had two
>relatively easy fights. After the loss (I was in the loser's bracket) I
>had several tougher fights, but managed to win them without much trouble.
i made it to the finals (16 players) myself.
>The best fights before the finals for me was a fight against that Paul
>guy from UIC. That match lasted forever, and I was heavily strained to
>keep my patience in it, but I managed to pull it off.
>The previous fight was against a Guile that Brian Odom barely defeated in
>three games with Dhalsim. I saw a little bit of it (there were a ton of
>people around watching), but I could tell it was always close. Anyways,
>this guy gave Odom a tough time, and thought I was in for a strangulation
>match with this guy. It was a lot easier than I expected. He sure did
>ming a lot. I got like four four-hit combos on him. I beat him in five
>rounds.
yeah, that was my second toughest fight. my toughest was ryu (who i think
won the whole damn thing). he was flawless. i lost to eli in the finals of
my bracket so i got dropped to loser's bracket deep in the tourney. i had
basically fought way too many scrubs, so this could be why that guile gave
my trouble. also, there are no (good) guiles in my area and i think that's
the main reason.
>There were five brackets of 32 people. Some people had byes. Me and Odom
>were in the orange bracket. Ben and Ming were in the white. Seth was in
>yet another one. This was good since we would rarely have to fight each
>other.
you were in the orange one too? well, it was eli and me for the champion of
the orange bracket. unfortunately, i underestimated him. anyways, i had to
fight eli again in the playoffs, and i got my sweet revenge on him. muhahahaha
too bad, i didn't have to fight against a fellow uiuc'er in the tourney, or
you would have heard it here first. i got my clocked cleaned by that ryu
player and i was in serious shock. he was playing like a friggin machine.
i was riding the winner's bracket for a long time though.
>The finalists in each bracket and the loser's bracket champ from each of
>those five brackets advanced. There was one more spot. That spot was
>reserved another elimination bracket, filled by the people defeated by
>the loser's bracket champ (I was a loser's bracket champ, Odom was 2nd,
>and that Eli guy was 1st in my bracket). Ben Hayek was one of the five
>people with a last chance to make it to the finals, and he pulled it
>off. Paul (Sagat from UIC) was in that bracket. I don't know all what
>happened there, but I know Ben won.
yeah, i remember, you were in my bracket.
>Incidentally, the white bracket had the infamous Mike Watson from LA. He
>is like the #3 or something guy in California. He is worthy of that title,
>and if Tomo is better than him, it would be hard to see how...
yes, he sure is. my hat is off to him. he is the first player i've seen
that may actually be better than the infamous gen guy we had at our school.
that loss to eli hurt me because i got a low seed and was "fed to the lions"
and had the distinction of fighting watson to start the playoffs. that was
the most perplexing fight i've ever had. i really can't describe it in words.
>Anyways, the white bracket had Ben losing in the third round. Ming was the
>only UIUC person to advance to the 4th round in the winner's bracket. Ming
>had to face Watson as his 4th round opponent and really got smashed. This
>loss put Ming fighting Ben in the loser's bracket for the finals of the
>loser's bracket. Ben won vs. Ming, and then lost the next fight. He still
>had a chance to make the finals, and did with a few more wins vs. the other
>losers from the loser's bracket finals.
ming had a tough draw it seems like. too bad. also, devin was doing ok, but
i think he was the first uiuc'er to go out.
>So, it was me, Ben, and Odom in the finals. This is weird since I think
>I won twice in the finals but I don't remember. Anyways, I had a rematch
i think i won twice too, but am not exactly sure.
>with Eli. I picked Sagat and beat his Ryu 2-1 in the first game. He then
>pulls out Vega (!?). I walked all over him 2-0. The third match he went
>back to Ryu. I lost 2-1 in close competition. It was my move. Close it
>or lose it. I pulled off the upset (in their opinion anyway) beating him
>2-1 Sagat over Ryu. Ben lost his first fight, but don't know what happened
>after that. Odom won his first his first match, and the rest I am unsure
i know david spence (that other black dhalsim player) was there. some guy
beat him and was i relieved. i crushed the guy who beat him (2-0, 2-0, 2-0)
i forget who he played, but i know he played chun li at least once, if not
twice.
>about. Anyways, my 2md (or 3rd?) match up in the finals was vs. Watson.
>He picked Ryu predictably. I took a round from him, but he was up 1-0.
>I need to win 3 of the next 4, but was never able to get going at all.
>He played a 'stall' Ryu, faking about 10 times for every move (like Tom
>Cannon mentioned months ago). I lost the rest of the rounds, winning only
>1 of 7 rounds. The guy who was running the tournament appeared surprised
>everytime I came up and told him I won, and was likewise surprised to hear
>I won a round from him. Oh well, if I could have beaten Eli that first
>time, I would have matched up with Odom, and had a better seed in the
>finals to avoid fighting Watson so soon.
the same thing here. i was fed to watson to start the playoffs, so things
didn't go good. i didn't even get a round on watson, but i never admitted
to being a great player, so i'm not at all surprised. that eli guy screwed
both of our seedings. i ended up fighting eli twice and the second time, i
beat him and put his ass out of the tourney. then i fight some huang guy
or hong or whateverhisnamewas. here is where the drama begins....
>After my loss, I was in shock. I had never seen something that good. I
>went to the loser's bracket, and fought this Chun Li. He easily dispatched
>me in 6 rounds. I played Ryu twice a Bison once vs. him. After the fight
>he said I should have picked Sagat. Maybe so. That was it for me. Ben
>didn't last any longer than I did, and Odom probably made it one or two more
>fights before getting eliminated.
i think i lasted longer than the uiuc'ers. i was one win away from assuring
4th place (so i know i won at least 2 times in the playoffs). it's the way i
went out that still has me aghast.
the guy right off the bat picks chun li. i guess he knew i was a dhalsim
player, so i stick with him. i lose 2-1, and 2-0 and now i am down 2 games
to none and on the brink of elimination. i know that if i pick a character,
i will have to stay with him for the remainder of the fight. i proceed to
pick cammy....
you should have heard the laughter and shock. "what is it? why is he picking
HER? what the fuck???" and the drama begins....
i tried to remember (i think caine said this) what cammy has and what chun li
has. basically, the round starts (and continues) to be a forward sweep fest.
i hit her leg, she hits mine. chun li throws fb. this was the key. so, she
always kept me honest. i used her throwing power. once, i followed up a chun
li missed *forward* with an extended throw (timing is *very* precise). i
basically win by simply walking up and throwing a lot. then i get stupid.
i am losing and time is running out, and i try a shortshortthrow. ha ha ha
got shot down! i KNOW i should have faked it. i regret that decision, but
with the lack of decent counterthrowers in the tourney, i figured hey, go for
it! so now it's 2-1 chun li's favor.
now it's tied 1-1 (rounds) and i am making my move. i have my game face on.
the momentum is shifting my way as everyone is in awe that i am using cammy
of all people *deep* into the tourney. chun li has a fb, but i can jump at
her when i want and if she decides to jump at me, i have my dp (my adv.)
chun li is losing and desperates tries to come back with time running out and
i'm winning by a slight margin. she jumps in and i arm myself with the thrust
kick. all i need to do is thrust kick here and it's all tied 2-2 with me
having BIG momentum. what happens.... i guess i got too excited and BLEW my
dp motion. what a scrub i am!!!! i get a f*cking cannon drill and i eat
2 forwards and lose. i was so extremely pissed. i KNOW i HAD his ass!
i couldn't hang with the flip kick shit when i was dhalsim. this guy kept
mixing up throws and lightning kicks of course with me guessing wrong.
i was the supreme underdog, and i liked it. i am so curious as to who he
would have picked if it were to go 2-2 while i was still cammy. damn joystick
screwed me up!!!!!! wouldn't it be damn funny, if he chose honda to kill me
off?????
>All the finalists (except the wild card guy, Ben) got a Capcom t-shirt
>with the SSF2T logo and that Goki (?) guy on the back. Considering the
>number of out-of-staters there, I think we did well. Seth counted people
>from no less than 12 states, including New York, California, Ohio, Wisconsin,
>and Minnesota.
i got mine and i got it on right now! too bad i spilled some hawaiian punch
on it and i got this stain. ugh!!!
>Seth commented about this one Ken from Minnesota. He said he was the best
>Ken he'd ever seen. I didn't watch him play, but he kept winning, so he
>must be a lot better than most people give Ken credit for.
>By the time I had lost and was out of contention, it was midnight. I was
>tired. I was ready to go. Later I found out that there were supposed to
>more fights to determine the actual placement of the final 16 people. Not
>sure of where I would have been had I won, but I figure around 12th or so.
i probably would have been mid level (probably 7 or 8) since i was playing
quite an effective dhalsim (except i struggled with that guile and was CRUSHED
by mike watson), i think i could have made some noise.
>Of all the things about the tournament, I realized how I can really play.
>I never play like I did in the tournament. I played once before it
>actually began (the rest of the time I played the new Turbo). I learned
>how to play Sagat the right way. It is hard, and takes incredible patience
>and spacing. I now know that I can do it. All the time playing here
>went down the pipes, and have modified how I play quite a bit with Sagat
>and Ryu.
i did a lot of modifying too on my play and it helped me advance further in the
tourney. i still haven't been to sleep yet. i got home at around 7am eastern
and i had to work from 10am - 9pm today. ugh!!!!! i have some heavy eyelids
now.
>On the Turbo, Ben and I switched rounds for about 1/2 hour beating the hell
>out of people. We threw a lot. I mean a lot. 5 throws every two rounds is
>a lot. We would do Super FB ticks on the opponent, and use his new rushing
>punch as a way to tick. It was amusing, and people were getting pissed.
i like to throw. i even managed to get a couple "double throws in" with guile
of course. :^) but, i have a VERY SCRUBBY guile!!!!!
>One guy even said we'd get shot in New York for doing that. I told that
>guy that's how we play, and to live with it. Ryu is the best guy in the
>version. We saw a really handy application of Zangief's Green Hand move.
i hate the animation on that green hand. why is his hand green???? what is
he, a gardener??????? the turbo seems to move very jerky at times.
get shot, hell that's fun stuff!!!!! my style of play!!!!
>Snuff a FB with it if the opponent is 1/2 screen away. The projectile
>delay will give you plenty of time to SPD after it. Z's super pile driver
>move would be easy to pull off after this move.
yes, ryu is damn good.
>I didn't pay much attention to the rest of the tournament. I liked to
>play the Turbo game, so I concentrated on that.
>As a side note, Seth won 40 consecutive fights during the practice time.
i still find this hard to believe, but if he says so, then i can believe it.
who ended up beating him??? well, i see some guy playing dhalsim, so get
a bit intrigued. i notice the cross hands and think it might be seth from
uiuc, but i don't talk (this was before we met). he tells me, "i had just
won 40 in a row". must have been scrubs rotating about seth's machine...
>I think we would have done better, but there was such a high caliber of
>players there, it was hard to avoid losing. If there were only people
>from the surrounding region, we would have been fine. I think most of
>the losses we had were to out of state people.
yeah, i lost to chun li, basically because i was dhalsim and there is a
character advantage and i can't play other character that well and then i
proceed to choose cammy. other than that, i underestimated one guy and sort
of didn't play all that hard. but, i got WAXED by watson. but, i think i
fared ok. maybe, i impressed the uiuc crowd. maybe not, i wish we could have
played against each other more rather than watching the other fight some
anonymous scrub. oh well.....
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brian odom
dhalsim
cammy (yes, and fared ok even against top-notch competition) use the throw...
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GCS?: -d+ p c(+++) u+ e++ s++/- n(---) h* f? !g w++@ t? r-- y+@
Seth James Killian
>i still find this hard to believe, but if he says so, then i can believe it.
>who ended up beating him??? well, i see some guy playing dhalsim, so get
>a bit intrigued. i notice the cross hands and think it might be seth from
>uiuc, but i don't talk (this was before we met). he tells me, "i had just
>won 40 in a row". must have been scrubs rotating about seth's machine...
Heh. Not exactly. Perhaps a few too many Sagats, but I am quite
sure about playing the majority of the final 16 players in practice. The
only character who I thought would have a chance of beating me was Chun Li,
since the two Cammys I got didn't really know the correct strategy, but I
have developed a lot of my Dhalsim specifically against Chun Li, and I ticked
like a fiend once or twice to stay on. I only fought two other Dhalsim's
the whole time (That Brian guy from Canada and a local guy named Jerry), and
both were pretty close. Fact is, I NEVER get a Dhalsim/Dhalsim fight here,
and the strategy is significantly different against 'yourself' than anyone
else for Dhal. Simply put, I am bad at that fight, and you beat me. I did
wish we had had more of a chance to just play around, but the way all of our
brackets were set up, time was tight. Maybe we could organize another tourn
ament ourselves. I mean, if the response was this big for (relatively) small
stakes, if we offered all cash prizes (just collection of the entrance fees)
I would think we could draw at least 50+ contestants, no problem.
Anyway, I must have a rematch against you. Can't go around knowing the
only UIUC/Indiana fight went to you :) And as a side note: Although I only
played him in practice (after the tournament started), the way I beat Watson's
Ryu was do a short or forward (depending on how fast I reacted) slide when he
short HK'd. All you need to do is be sure you can block one tick/spin/hit of
the thing, and you are guaranteed the throw. I also got him with a Yoga flame,
short slide, throw tick in the corner once. Whatever...
Seth Killian
Keith Miyake
>Well, I made it to the finals. My only defeat in the preliminaries was
>to a guy named Eli.
Good going.
Was there much switching of characters going on? From the reports
it seemed that most of the matches were the same matchups over and
over, but I would think that switching would be an advantage in
certain situations.
Right now this is SF2 purgatory. All the machines at the student center
are broken.
Did see something new (to me) though. Fei Long can do a crouching
fierce under Chun Li's fireball. (Fei==Dhalsim?) I don't play Fei,
so I'm not going to go around trying it out.
Keith
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kmi...@cs.rutgers.edu
Philip John Stroffolino
>[...]
>yeah, that was my second toughest fight. my toughest was ryu (who i think
>won the whole damn thing). he was flawless. i lost to eli in the finals of
This Watson fellow sounds inhuman. Someone should inform him that Ryu
is supposed to lose to Dhalsim! ^_^
>[...]
>the guy right off the bat picks chun li. i guess he knew i was a dhalsim
>player, so i stick with him.
Wait sec - why'd you go with Dhalsim? Did you have a choice? Are you
into S&M?
>[Cammy's almost glorious moment]
*smile* Dang I wish you'd have beaten that guy...
>[...]
>yeah, i lost to chun li, basically because i was dhalsim and there is a
>character advantage and i can't play other character that well and then i
>proceed to choose cammy. other than that, i underestimated one guy and sort
>of didn't play all that hard. but, i got WAXED by watson. but, i think i
>fared ok. maybe, i impressed the uiuc crowd. maybe not, i wish we
could >have
But "character advantage" was a factor in many of your wins, too, right?
Anyway, congrats - wish you'd have won...
Phil "too scrubby for tournaments" Stroffolino
Brian Odom
>bo...@silver.ucs.canada.edu (Brian Odom) writes:
^^^^^^
see? i *am* from canada.... heh heh. whatever....
> Heh. Not exactly. Perhaps a few too many Sagats, but I am quite
>sure about playing the majority of the final 16 players in practice. The
>only character who I thought would have a chance of beating me was Chun Li,
>since the two Cammys I got didn't really know the correct strategy, but I
>have developed a lot of my Dhalsim specifically against Chun Li, and I ticked
>like a fiend once or twice to stay on. I only fought two other Dhalsim's
>the whole time (That Brian guy from Canada and a local guy named Jerry), and
do you mean me, as in brian? or that dave guy, who was really from canada?
my first fight was a super scrubby dhalsim. maybe that was the local jerry
guy. i don't know. i usually fare poorly in dh vs dh fights, but they are
the most fun! you really can't put together a real strategy.
>both were pretty close. Fact is, I NEVER get a Dhalsim/Dhalsim fight here,
>and the strategy is significantly different against 'yourself' than anyone
>else for Dhal. Simply put, I am bad at that fight, and you beat me. I did
like i am some god or something? that dave guy womped me the first fight,
but i figured out his game and threw it back at him and won a close one. :D
yes, i rarely get dh vs dh fights anymore and was surprised to see this in
the first fight i had in the tourney. i got a little scared, but won anyways.
>wish we had had more of a chance to just play around, but the way all of our
>brackets were set up, time was tight. Maybe we could organize another tourn
it's so funny. time was tight, yet it took so damn long!!! i really got a
bad headache waiting about 3-4 hours for them to finish the first set of
loser's brackets.
>ament ourselves. I mean, if the response was this big for (relatively) small
>stakes, if we offered all cash prizes (just collection of the entrance fees)
>I would think we could draw at least 50+ contestants, no problem.
that would be good, but it will be tough to get the level of play as was in
this tourney.
> Anyway, I must have a rematch against you. Can't go around knowing the
>only UIUC/Indiana fight went to you :) And as a side note: Although I only
i wanted one too. i'm not going to brag or anything since it was only 1 measly
fight. i wish i had more time at the beginning to screw around. too many
people and too few machines.
anyways, i think i went 2-1 against uiuc although i'm sure i may have lost
another one somewhere. my first uiuc fight was against ming. i wasn't really
playing too well and his zangief cleaned me. but, i never said that i was
especially good against z players. i really wanted a rematch, since i didn't
play well at all, but oh well. i hardly remember the fight with seth because
i didn't know that was seth to begin with (although i sort of knew because of
the cross hands, but wasn't sure). now that i think of it, maybe ming got
me once or twice on super turbo, but i was simply screwing around on the super
turbo machine and wasn't really looking to win (i was testing what was
different and things like that). i didn't play the new one all that much.
i had lots of trouble dp'ing with cammy for some strange reason. also,
dhalsim was WEIRD. i hate him so much now.
i got an extremely lucky win with guile with ming. the charge times and my
timing in particular was off. wait, i think ben beat me. i remember doing
some ticking against him (not nothing serious, just a walk-up -> throw), but
he may have beat me. i don't know, i can't really remember.
>played him in practice (after the tournament started), the way I beat Watson's
>Ryu was do a short or forward (depending on how fast I reacted) slide when he
>short HK'd. All you need to do is be sure you can block one tick/spin/hit of
>the thing, and you are guaranteed the throw. I also got him with a Yoga flame,
>short slide, throw tick in the corner once. Whatever...
he would short hk over my fb with *uncanny* timing. i was amazed. but, when
he hk'd, it would miss, then he could throw me afterwards with the right timing
and his timing was damn good on throws. he didn't hk me from close range, so
i could block it. maybe it's because i simply ducked and then he ticked me
here and there. i am a pretty respectable counterthrower, but it was something
about his timing.
funny, i was counterthrowing left and right in the tourney (well above 50%).
anyways, after i counterthrow them, i went to tick them. ha ha ha
never would that happen here (except against the stupid hippy high school kids
who suck). i got them mad! but, they deserved it. they tried it, then i
tried it. don't hate me because i threw you both times....
> Seth Killian
>>>I think we would have done better, but there was such a high caliber of
>>>players there, it was hard to avoid losing. If there were only people
>>>from the surrounding region, we would have been fine. I think most of
>>>the losses we had were to out of state people.
yes, it was tough to avoid losing. with so many people, i'm surprised i
did ok. i pretty much stuck to my game, and didn't want to make many
adjustments. i made a few, and it helped me out in the long run. problem
is, i haven't had any competition in such a long time and it felt really good
to be there and an honor to simply participate.
Matthew Duncan Walker
at World's Finest? If so, how does he match up with Tomo/Tony/etc? And are
there any big West coast tournaments in the works? I'd like to see if the
players from Sunnyvale are as good as they say they are, and how they compare to
the World's Finest regulars. Thanks,
Matthew D. Walker
mw5d+@andrew
O.B. SF2- I was saddened to see that Charles actually put in a MK2 machine at
World's Finest- I remember him saying a few years ago when MK was just starting
to get popular that he'd never get one. I guess that's what money can do to a
person......
Thomas Calvin Cannon
Matthew Duncan Walker <mw...@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>Maybe John Nishinga can help me out with this question- Is Mike Watson a regular
>at World's Finest? If so, how does he match up with Tomo/Tony/etc? And are
>there any big West coast tournaments in the works? I'd like to see if the
>players from Sunnyvale are as good as they say they are, and how they compare to
>the World's Finest regulars.
Um...there may already be an answer to this. I believe that there was
recently a big tournament with players from both Golfland and LA. Tomo
won, but there was a bit of a scandal as the tournament was seeded at
the last minute. Anyone know the final standings of this?
---
Tom Cannon
ink...@leland.stanford.edu
John Nishinaga
Matthew Duncan Walker <mw...@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> Maybe John Nishinga can help me out with this question- Is Mike Watson a
> regular at World's Finest? If so, how does he match up with Tomo/Tony/etc?
time ago and I haven't been to a Pico tourney since Super came out.
> And are there any big West coast tournaments in the works?
Station. Tomo won that one. I think there might be another California tourney
when TSSF2 is established -- who knows?
> I'd like to see if the players from Sunnyvale are as good as they say they
> are, and how they compare to the World's Finest regulars.
(from Sunnyvale) had a kick-ass Guile.
> O.B. SF2- I was saddened to see that Charles actually put in a MK2 machine at
> World's Finest- I remember him saying a few years ago when MK was just
> starting to get popular that he'd never get one. I guess that's what money
> can do to a person......
-- I got so sick of him. He talks so much shit it's annoying. Anyways, I
think the basic reason was because his SSF2 tourneys were getting too small.
If I recall correctly, his first MK2 tourney got over 40 people.
--
John Nishinaga
jnis...@netcom.com