Sushi-X and EGM
VX Gene
proud "Sushi-X" as "king of 2D fighters"? And "SF Master"? Did you also ever
notice how EGM's SF strategies suck, and if they are true, are stolen from FAQs
(from which they'll usually make an error that wasn't in the FAQ, thus soiling
the FAQ author's credibility in the eyes of those clueless)? Well, evidently,
Sushi-X also says that A2 Gold is much better than A2. Go figure. Personally,
I hate to see some guy who probably has no idea what a crossup, or even a link
is, saying he's the SF king. Sure, maybe king of EGM offices (full of RyuKens,
BTW)... but that's not saying much.
We all know that A2G is horrible. Look what they did to Gen, look at the
throw damage, the SPD and FAB damage, Cammy (really balanced), etc. It's TOO
obvious that Sushi is nothing but an SF fanboy/scrub who simply clicks "Oh, A2G
has more options, and lets me pick Shin-Gouki easier, so it's better". Whew.
I think I'm done ranting...
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Mike Z
Much less rant about it....
^_^
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They jump/duck/punch/kick/Super/special/throw attempt?
Block or Tech Hit, (if applicable,) then SPD/FAB.
They die? Laugh. Then whup the computer.
sol t kim
necro are such terrible characters that they need to make them better in
2i to make things fair. what an utter nonsense!
In article <36A00B...@worldnet.att.net>,
--
kayin/ka khiong kwok
I haven't read EGM for quite awhile now, but I used to read them quite a bit
(when they were still credible and half the magazine actually contained
objective articles), and I've read his quite a few Sushi-X's article, played
some of the games he raved about and some he totally trashed, and found that
more or less he's right 50% of the time. As with the move lists, it really
did look like (to me anyway) that some of the stuff's been ripped off
straight out of FAQs, one or two coming out of Kao's FAQ even, not that I
remember which though. All the EGMs that I owned is now doing something
useful by biodegrading into the shite that it is. :')
Cheers,
Ka.
=== A thought... ===
If Bison didn't become a meglomanic, dark spirited
dictator, what profession would he have taken up?
WhoaMoses
letters column which still gives me an occasional laugh. But I agree that the
fighting game strategies and reviews are pathetic. I'd love to run into this
Sushi-X guy someday in an arcade, whup his butt, and send him back to mamma. I
mean come on, there wasn't even a mention of MvsC until the game was already 3
months old, and to this day there STILL is no mention of KOF98. Whatta buncha
lamers. But as for reviews of other video games, the reviews really help me to
decide whether or not to rent or buy. So give credit where credit is due. The
mag is good EXCEPT for Sushi-X and all those damned advertisements (it's
getting so bad i think last issue they had 100 pages of ads. Geez).
sch...@hotmail.com
vxg...@aol.com.NOSPAM (VX Gene) wrote:
> OK, time to let loose on something. You know how EGM always hypes their
> proud "Sushi-X" as "king of 2D fighters"? And "SF Master"?
i've read the magazine and he hardly ever claims to be the king of anything.
and he has admitted to being beaten.
> Sure, maybe king of EGM offices (full of
RyuKens,
> BTW)... but that's not saying much.
wow, you sure seem to know a lot about the personal lives of the EGM staff...!
>"Oh, A2G
> has more options, and lets me pick Shin-Gouki easier, so it's better". Whew.
so, because a player likes to use ryu/ken clones, that automatically makes
them bad? hell, i used to play with guile and blanka and the rest before i
learned ken and ryu's moves. and i haven't looked back since. if you think
"oh, i'm not going to pick ryu cuz that's what _everybody_ picks" you're
wrong.
Eric J. Schepers
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Mike Z <jzai...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Why does anyone in their right mind *read* EGM in the first place?
because it's a good magazine?
> Much less rant about it....
> ^_^
can't help you there.
sch...@hotmail.com
well, if you don't like them that much, why don't you write them? they have
printed criticism in the past and would probably give some good reasons for
what you've said. (personally i don't pay attention to their fighting
strategies either, but i still like it)
Eric J. Schepers
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Shaun Patrick Mcisaac
sol t kim <sol...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>LOL i remember reading his article on SF3, him complaining that oro and
>necro are such terrible characters that they need to make them better in
>2i to make things fair. what an utter nonsense!
How about the Chaos Dimension super being Oro's best super art? I
mean, you can at least *argue* about the other two since you can bust out
100% if you connect with either one.
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How do you spell a-n-d?
pnt
:>"Oh, A2G
:> has more options, and lets me pick Shin-Gouki easier, so it's better".
Whew.
:
:so, because a player likes to use ryu/ken clones, that automatically makes
:them bad? hell, i used to play with guile and blanka and the rest before i
:learned ken and ryu's moves. and i haven't looked back since. if you think
:"oh, i'm not going to pick ryu cuz that's what _everybody_ picks" you're
:wrong.
First of all, do you even know what Shin-Gouki is?
Secondly he's not criticizing the guy's use of ryu ken clones, he's
saying that the guy calls A2G a better game than A2 because it has
more features..in other words SushiX doesn't know what he's talking
about..it may have more features but it basically a butcher job of
alpha 2 instead of an improvement..
and its true that EGM sucks when it comes to fighting games..they
list all kinds of crap and BS and lame strategies..
VX Gene
Sushi wrote:
>> OK, time to let loose on something. You know how EGM always hypes
>their
>> proud "Sushi-X" as "king of 2D fighters"? And "SF Master"?
>
>i've read the magazine and he hardly ever claims to be the king of anything.
>and he has admitted to being beaten.
You've never seen him brag about his "awesome skills" or the magazine
quote him to be the "king of 2D fighting"? I'm not even a loyal reader and
I've seen it tons of times.
>> Sure, maybe king of EGM offices (full of
>RyuKens,
>> BTW)... but that's not saying much.
>
>wow, you sure seem to know a lot about the personal lives of the EGM
>staff...!
Read some of EGM's SF strategies. They'll always say things about Ryu and
Ken that is such scrub info it's ridiculous, and they always actually have
*strategy* written down for RyuKen, rather than random bits of untrue info.
BTW, their RyuKen strategy... is ridiculous. I'd love to quote some of the
crap they've written, and if I get enough requests, I'll dig up an old EGM2 I
have that has A2 "strategies" in it, as well as an issue with some SF3 BS on
it. Oh, and another thing... I specifically remember article authors saying
things that promote RyuKen, like one of my favorites... though this was under
Wolverine... saying how getting an opponent in a corner and rotating the
joystick and pressing buttons does good damage, like Ryu and Ken. No joke.
>>"Oh, A2G
>> has more options, and lets me pick Shin-Gouki easier, so it's better".
>Whew.
>
>so, because a player likes to use ryu/ken clones, that automatically makes
>them bad? hell, i used to play with guile and blanka and the rest before i
>learned ken and ryu's moves. and i haven't looked back since. if you
think
>"oh, i'm not going to pick ryu cuz that's what _everybody_ picks" you're
>wrong.
Um, no, their "expert strategies" give enough away for me to know they
suck. Thank you.
Ultima
VX Gene wrote:
> OK, time to let loose on something. You know how EGM always hypes their proud "Sushi-X" as "king of 2D fighters"? And "SF Master"? Did you also ever notice how EGM's SF strategies suck, and if they are true, are stolen from FAQs (from which they'll usually make an error that wasn't in the FAQ, thus soiling the FAQ author's credibility in the eyes of those clueless)?
*coughKaocoughcough*
> Well, evidently, Sushi-X also says that A2 Gold is much better than A2. Go figure. Personally, I hate to see some guy who probably has no idea what a crossup, or even a link is, saying he's the SF king. Sure, maybe king of EGM offices (full of RyuKens, BTW)... but that's not saying much.
Heh. I've been told that Sushi X is "white and he sucks" (from someone
who played against him). :)
> We all know that A2G is horrible. Look what they did to Gen, look at the throw damage, the SPD and FAB damage, Cammy (really balanced), etc.
Alright, I'm going to have to disagree here, on a level. I only started
playing Gen in A2G (it was only then did I have a person to practise
against), and I found A2G Gen, while weakened from A2 Gen, to be more
fun to play. His PPP style was improved, but his KKK was weakened
(Christ, that jump was *terrible*). Not good if you were used to his A2
form, but it made the process of at least trying him out better. And
that paid off, since it made the transition to A3 Gen (who's closer to
A2 Gen, but has a lot of A2G Gen in there) a lot easier.
But then again, I suppose people will say that Gen in A3 is scrubby, so
maybe this is no good after all.. -_-
As for Cammy, she was an obvious throw-away. Just something extra for
the home version to boast about.
I don't remember throw damage being altered, actually, but I never
checked. Same thing with SPD and FAB damage.
Overall, I'd say that A2G is *slightly* better than A2. All IMO of
course.
> It's TOO obvious that Sushi is nothing but an SF fanboy/scrub who simply clicks "Oh, A2G has more options, and lets me pick Shin-Gouki easier, so it's better". Whew. I think I'm done ranting...
See above about Sushi. ^_^
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> But then again, I suppose people will say that Gen in A3 is scrubby, so
> maybe this is no good after all.. -_-
>
> As for Cammy, she was an obvious throw-away. Just something extra for
> the home version to boast about.
>
> I don't remember throw damage being altered, actually, but I never
> checked. Same thing with SPD and FAB damage.
>
> Overall, I'd say that A2G is *slightly* better than A2. All IMO of
> course.
There are some things that almost never get mentioned about A2G, and for some reason I feel the need to bring them up-
Useless new moves that can actually be detrimental since if they come out by accident, you get killed. Rose's towards+roundhouse, Sakura's hopping punch thing.
In case everyone didn't understand it before, Capcom made sure everyone realizes "USE METER FOR CUSTOM COMBOS ONLY" by weakening Alpha counters and lowering the priority on supers.
Weakening crap characters like Adon and Charlie (yeah they were REALLY overpowered) while pretty much leaving the top tier alone.
Zangief was screwed over, since huge delay was added to his SPD and FAB. Ticks were impossible, and the FAB was useless. You could jump in on someone, they'd make a mistake and block, you'd FAB when you land right next to them. When they see the sparks come out for the super, they can press up and jump out of it just like XSF.
Sakura's ambiguous crossup was "fixed", making the game more boring.
Cammy was complete garbage.
The PSX conversion was horrible... worse than what I would expect from the SNES.
IMO Alpha 2 Gold is the worst SF game ever made, easily. It has no positive new features. Much like Marvel vs SF, it takes a crap game, makes a few changes, and removes anything that was fun. And to get back to the topic of this thread... EGM called it the best SF ever, and said that it's the main feature of the SF Collection while SSF2T was outdated crap.
Dllem
>> Well, evidently, Sushi-X also says that A2 Gold is much better than A2. Go figure. Personally, I hate to see some guy who probably has no idea what a crossup, or even a link is, saying he's the SF king. Sure, maybe king of EGM offices (full of RyuKens, BTW)... but that's not saying much.
>
>Heh. I've been told that Sushi X is "white and he sucks" (from someone
>who played against him). :)
Even though my last issue I *bought* was the SSf2 issue, I feel like
commenting.
I read the magazine for about 2 years (One year was free, those
dumbasses). I remember when Mr. X was first invented. Went something
like:
"And during our trip to Japan, We got a Pizza box with some guy's name
on it. "Sushi-X" They then went on to his first editorial. They
made him out to be asian. Now he's WHITE?!
Wannabe.
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> You know the drill...
>
> VX Gene wrote:
>
> > OK, time to let loose on something. You know how EGM always hypes
their proud "Sushi-X" as "king of 2D fighters"? And "SF Master"? Did you
also ever notice how EGM's SF strategies suck, and if they are true, are
stolen from FAQs (from which they'll usually make an error that wasn't in
the FAQ, thus soiling the FAQ author's credibility in the eyes of those
clueless)?
>
> *coughKaocoughcough*
No comment there. To anyone who reads EGM, did I ever get credit for that
Nov. issue SFA3 moveslist (it had MGSolid on the front, I think)? I'd like
to know if I have or perhaps if credit appears in a future issue.
> > Well, evidently, Sushi-X also says that A2 Gold is much better than A2.
Go figure. Personally, I hate to see some guy who probably has no idea
what a crossup, or even a link is, saying he's the SF king. Sure, maybe
king of EGM offices (full of RyuKens, BTW)... but that's not saying much.
Well, that's more of an opinion. I mean, I like A2 Gold better than A2,
even though a lot of changes are for the worse.
> Heh. I've been told that Sushi X is "white and he sucks" (from someone
> who played against him). :)
Meaning what? ;) What does sucking have to do with being white, huh? Huh!?
>
> > We all know that A2G is horrible. Look what they did to Gen, look
at the throw damage, the SPD and FAB damage, Cammy (really balanced), etc.
>
> Alright, I'm going to have to disagree here, on a level. I only started
> playing Gen in A2G (it was only then did I have a person to practise
> against), and I found A2G Gen, while weakened from A2 Gen, to be more
> fun to play. His PPP style was improved, but his KKK was weakened
> (Christ, that jump was *terrible*). Not good if you were used to his A2
> form, but it made the process of at least trying him out better. And
> that paid off, since it made the transition to A3 Gen (who's closer to
> A2 Gen, but has a lot of A2G Gen in there) a lot easier.
Can't help but agree here. I liked Gen in A2 but I loved him in SFZ2 Dash.
I think the floaty jump was sort of fun myself. SFZ2 Dash did have lots of
improvements, too, like Sodom's new Tengu Walking.
>
> > It's TOO obvious that Sushi is nothing but an SF fanboy/scrub who
simply clicks "Oh, A2G has more options, and lets me pick Shin-Gouki
easier, so it's better". Whew. I think I'm done ranting...
>
> See above about Sushi. ^_^
Grr.... (KM attacks Ultima with a dead trout) Not that I'm defending Sushi
X, but race has nothing to do with it. Increase the peace!
= Kao Megura =
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I really despise the shotos, even half-assed ones." - Ultima
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Ultima
> In article <36A15570...@rit.edu>, Ultima <jas...@rit.edu> wrote:
>
> > You know the drill...
> >
> > VX Gene wrote:
> >
> > > OK, time to let loose on something. You know how EGM always hypes
> their proud "Sushi-X" as "king of 2D fighters"? And "SF Master"? Did you
> also ever notice how EGM's SF strategies suck, and if they are true, are
> stolen from FAQs (from which they'll usually make an error that wasn't in
> the FAQ, thus soiling the FAQ author's credibility in the eyes of those
> clueless)?
> > *coughKaocoughcough*
>
> No comment there. To anyone who reads EGM, did I ever get credit for that Nov. issue SFA3 moveslist (it had MGSolid on the front, I think)? I'd like to know if I have or perhaps if credit appears in a future issue.
Your name was mentioned (in tiny print in a corner), but really Kao. If
I were you, I'd want to distance myself from that "guide" in any which
way, shape, or form. It's a complete insult (don't ask me why, since I
don't have the issue with me and I've conveniently blotted it out of my
memory :).
> > Heh. I've been told that Sushi X is "white and he sucks" (from someone who played against him). :)
> Meaning what? ;) What does sucking have to do with being white, huh? Huh!?
Nothing. It's just that EGM makes Sushi out to be this great asian SF
player. He's neither Asian nor is he a great player.. :)
[snarf A2G]
> > It's TOO obvious that Sushi is nothing but an SF fanboy/scrub who
> simply clicks "Oh, A2G has more options, and lets me pick Shin-Gouki
> easier, so it's better". Whew. I think I'm done ranting...
> > See above about Sushi. ^_^
> Grr.... (KM attacks Ultima with a dead trout) Not that I'm defending Sushi X, but race has nothing to do with it. Increase the peace!
*no-sells the dead trout attack* Nothing to do with race. Just pointing
out what was told to me.. :)
kayin/ka khiong kwok
Kao Megura wrote in message ...
>In article <36A15570...@rit.edu>, Ultima <jas...@rit.edu> wrote:
>No comment there. To anyone who reads EGM, did I ever get credit for that
>Nov. issue SFA3 moveslist (it had MGSolid on the front, I think)? I'd like
>to know if I have or perhaps if credit appears in a future issue.
Not sure... it was awhile ago, but I swear I recall some stuff coming out of
your FAQs. Did anyone find their fighter's edge of MvC a bit iffy? The thing
I hate most though is the way they stretch the thing out to two or three
issues (this is in their other cash cow - EGM2). In any case, it was very
good.
>> Heh. I've been told that Sushi X is "white and he sucks" (from someone
>> who played against him). :)
>
>Meaning what? ;) What does sucking have to do with being white, huh?
Huh!?
Ahhhhh... read that in the original post. Something of Politically correct
mine field.
>Can't help but agree here. I liked Gen in A2 but I loved him in SFZ2 Dash.
>I think the floaty jump was sort of fun myself. SFZ2 Dash did have lots of
>improvements, too, like Sodom's new Tengu Walking.
Like Gen as well. Too bad I'm crap at him. One question, why is he wearing
red shoes? Is he getting married or something?
>Grr.... (KM attacks Ultima with a dead trout) Not that I'm defending Sushi
>X, but race has nothing to do with it. Increase the peace!
How could you KM? The poor trout. Let it R.I.P. :')
Cheers,
Ka.
=== A fight I liked to see... ===
Blanka vs. Pikachu. My bet's on Pikachu. :')
Lord BBH
>Heh. I've been told that Sushi X is "white and he sucks" (from someone
>who played against him). :)
Yup, Sushi-X isn't Asian... anyone remember that Ken Williams guy? hmmmm....
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Allan [Weapon X] Liangco
On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, 21:46:36 +1100, kayin/ka khiong kwok
<ka...@mpx.com.au> wrote in <77pqfa$opj$1...@news1.mpx.com.au>:
> I haven't read EGM for quite awhile now, but I used to read them quite a bit
> (when they were still credible and half the magazine actually contained
> objective articles), and I've read his quite a few Sushi-X's article, played
> some of the games he raved about and some he totally trashed, and found that
> more or less he's right 50% of the time...
[snip]
> Cheers,
> Ka.
> On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, 05:21:11 GMT, sol...@midway.uchicago.edu (sol t kim) wrote in <F5n07...@midway.uchicago.edu>:
> > In article <36A00B...@worldnet.att.net>, Mike Z <jzai...@worldnet.att.net> wrote the following on 16 Jan 1999, 02:49:07 GMT:
>>> On 16 Jan 1999, 02:12:15 GMT, vxg...@aol.com (VX Gene) wrote in <19990115211215...@ng20.aol.com>:
[snip]
>>>Why does anyone in their right mind *read* EGM in the first place?
>>>Much less rant about it....
>>>^_^
It's the pictures, isn't it !? That's what probably makes EGM more
interesting, hehe. :-) EGM does seem to get a lot of good pics of
games and game system hardware in their magazine pages. I'll read some
of "their" reviews to see what they think, but if I wanted a real review
of a game, I'll go out & personally play the game myself to find out how
it is.
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kayin/ka khiong kwok
Allan [Weapon X] Liangco wrote in message <36A4C8...@prodigy.com>...
<snip>
>It's the pictures, isn't it !? That's what probably makes EGM more
>interesting, hehe. :-) EGM does seem to get a lot of good pics of
>games and game system hardware in their magazine pages. I'll read some
>of "their" reviews to see what they think, but if I wanted a real review
>of a game, I'll go out & personally play the game myself to find out how
>it is.
You might be right. I usually find myself just staring at the pictures. This
pretty much underlines the reading tastes of every male on the planet. :')
Also, I'm like you, after I've read their "review", I usually end up going
out and trying the game out. Sometimes they're right, sometimes they're
wrong. When they get it wrong, they get it WRONG.
Cheers,
Ka.
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kayin/ka khiong kwok <ka...@mpx.com.au> wrote:
[...]
>Also, I'm like you, after I've read their "review", I usually end up going
>out and trying the game out. Sometimes they're right, sometimes they're
>wrong. When they get it wrong, they get it WRONG.
Which is, as usual, a matter of personal tastes. I've never found any
publication, hardcopied, internet-based, to give reviews that I've
agreed with all the time. Isn't this true for quite a lot of people?
I do, however, end up reading about 80% of what's printed in a magazine,
even if it's lengthy, but on the internet, I rarely read through a whole
article. Clicking to view the next page with just doesn't seem right
to read a whole article for some reason, but that's just me. As someone
stated before, trust yourself, if you must use reviews, use _several_
different sources (e.g., several magazines, sites, posts) and make
judgements from that.
-dew
PowerOfQi
>I were you, I'd want to distance myself from that "guide" in any which
>way, shape, or form. It's a complete insult (don't ask me why, since I
>don't have the issue with me and I've conveniently blotted it out of my
>memory :).
"Many thanks go out to the best SFA3 FAQ writer on the Net, Kao Megura, for use
of his FAQ. Check out his web site at
http://www.geocities.com/tokyo/pagoda/4610 or e-mail him at kme...@yahoo.com"
In case anyone cared.
Dan Mastriani
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kayin/ka khiong kwok
PowerOfQi wrote in message <19990124234015...@ng-ch1.aol.com>...
<snip>
>"It's like a woman who's taken off her clothes!" Leiji Matsumoto's
Siegfried
This is a double edged sword. It depends purely on the subject at hand. :')
Cheers,
Ka.
=== A fight I liked to see... ===
Morrigan vs Kenneth Starr. It's too close to call. :')
PowerOfQi
>Siegfried
>
>
>This is a double edged sword. It depends purely on the subject at hand. :')
Yeah, I know. S'why I have a different quote for e-mail. But the line made me
laugh so much, I couldn't resist, you know?
Dan Mastriani
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