[SFA3 PS] 5 new characters?! Who can these be??? :)
Patrick
A few sites poped out the news yesterday (from the TGS of course...
boy is that a wonderfull thing!): aside from all the goodies we
already know about for SFA3, PS version, the game will feature
5 (yes, FIVE) secret characters, aside from Balrog, Juni and July.
If you ask me, it seems like a lot, and I'd imagine there would be
less then 5 new, but aparently it was quite clear that it was gonna be
that much. Well, great!
Anyway, they also said that these characters were showed... as shadows
on capcom's booth. The bets are open: who could them be? Here are a
few wild guesses:
- The ones remaining from SSF2:
Fei long, T.Hawk, Dee Jay - I guess I'd like Fei long in there.
With all of them, the SF2 cast would be complete... Seem reasonable.
- Guile is not actualy in the game, and they could want to get him
in, even if it wouldn't do a lot of good...
- Evil Ryu would be a canditate too.
- The ones they already have from other games should be considered
also, meaning Darkstalkers, or MSH... I say it'd be a mistake to
mix those with the coherent SF world (MSH vs Capcom and friends
are here for that).
- Norimaro could be put in too. I even think he will (it's a bonus
kind of character...). Not that we care a lot, hu?
- Chars from SF3? Maybe. They seem to use Ibuki a lot...
Well, I'm out of ideas. If you guys have other ones or have any REAL
info about these shadows, please let me (us) know!
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Patrick
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Ryan Roullard
version?
-Ryan
Yander
I highly doubt Capcom is going to go through the trouble of making 5 "NEW"
characters for the PSX port. It sounds like they're going to throw in a few
"Evil" characters, and a few Champion Edition versions. If Capcom did
anything but this, it would really surprise me.
BionicTuna
>Anybody know about the odds of these 5 new folks making it into the Saturn
>version?
the big question is.. will there BE a saturn version?
(not one planned yet)
-jim-
vlad taltos
says...
in November. I don't think there's any point of a saturn version, really.
Vlad
fred...@my-dejanews.com
past "performances") are Sean, Ibuki, Fei Long, and Guile, since these are
the only characters from SSF2T and SF3 that seem to appear anywhere outside
their own games (although all chracters from these two games appear in Pocket
Fighter). I'm not exactly dying to see Thunderhawk or Dee Jay return. I
think it would be cool to see Elena done in an Alpha game, plus female
fighters in SF games always return (like Cammy and Ibuki).
So...my choices are:
Sean, Ibuki and Elena from SF3 Series
Guile and Fei Long from SF2 Series.
No more "Satsui no Hadou Mesameta" Ryu, please.
Fred Davis
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Drblasfemy
>Anyway, they also said that these characters were showed... as shadows
>on capcom's booth. The bets are open: who could them be? Here are a
>few wild guesses:
>- The ones remaining from SSF2:
> Fei long, T.Hawk, Dee Jay - I guess I'd like Fei long in there.
> With all of them, the SF2 cast would be complete... Seem reasonable.
>- Guile is not actualy in the game, and they could want to get him
> in, even if it wouldn't do a lot of good...
>- Evil Ryu would be a canditate too.
>- The ones they already have from other games should be considered
> also, meaning Darkstalkers, or MSH... I say it'd be a mistake to
> mix those with the coherent SF world (MSH vs Capcom and friends
> are here for that).
>- Norimaro could be put in too. I even think he will (it's a bonus
> kind of character...). Not that we care a lot, hu?
>- Chars from SF3? Maybe. They seem to use Ibuki a lot...
>Well, I'm out of ideas. If you guys have other ones or have any REAL
>info about these shadows, please let me (us) know!
If Capcom actually puts out the effort to add five new characters here's who
I'd pick:
- Doctrine Dark. His origin involves Rolento, Charlie and Guile, so a lot info
about it could be cleared up with him added.
- Dee Jay. He just kicks ass and deserves to be included.
- Kairi. Another character, whose history could be developed via SFA3. A
cool thing Capcom can do is not make him an ARK like in SFEX, but
something completely different.
- Allen Snyder. Yeah, he's an ARK, but since it's before SFEX it could be
before he learned the how to do a fireball and uppercut, but still has the
Justice Fist plus some other stuff.
- Shadaloo Ken. Instead of Evil Ryu, we get Evil Ken.
Dr. Blasphemy @#*!
Ed
I mean, it only makes sense because in the SF animated movie (the best), he was temporarily influenced by M. Bison. Although it probably wouldn't happen, it's perfectly logical. I'd also like to see Ken teleport like M. Bison in Marvel VS Street Fighter (he disappears, 6 shadows of M. Bison appear on the screen, then the "real" one finally takes the place of one shadow and the rest disappear).
Warewolf at Large
Lee and Eagle from SF1 plus an 'older' version of Balrog
as in Balrog using Mike's moves, perhaps.
Signed,
Warewolf at Large
Robert Kramer
I think it would be cool if the secret characters were Chris Redfield or
Jill Vallentine. I don't think it would mess the story up as much as it
would build on it. I think if they threw in anybody from Cyberbots in (Like
Jin in MvC) it would ruin the story completely. What about Haggar from
Final Fight? Then they would have the whole FF cast complete and then some
(Rolento, Sodom). You know Haggar's coming soon to the SF world cause they
even have Andore in SF32I. Just a thought.
fred...@my-dejanews.com
That makes sense! After all, there are two things to consider here:
1. This is the last Alpha game. 2. These are the last remaining characters
from SF1 (Ryu, Ken, Adon, Gen & Sagat are the others) 3. Since they were
never playable to begin with, this means that there will be 5 *totally* new
people to play as, unlike the characters in my SFA3-PSX list (Guile, Fei
Long, Sean, Ibuki and Elena).
I think I'd rather see Warewolf at Large's list than mine. Whaddayou think?
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Fred Davis
2 The Limit
Bison" in the Japanese SF2/SFA3? MIKE Bison?
I'm not sure SF3 characters would make it in, they'd need to have
frames cut due to the HIGH frame counts of "THREE".
One character I'd like added to SFA3.... Carlos! (Final Fight 2)
Adding Haggar also would be OK to get the whole crew of the original
FF into A3.
Chris Rettig
guesses are (from the top left corner counterclockwise), Fei Long, DeeJay
(looks like the shadow is giving the "thumbs up" sign), THawk (Spike hair,
possibly feathers, large portrait), ??? next to Akuma, and Evil Ryu
(Silhouette is an exact duplicate of Ryu's portrait.) I am really hoping
that no SF3 characters show up and that some Fighting Street characters do
show up. (Eagle hint hint).
Dark Schneider wrote in message <3622C072...@osf1.gmu.edu>...
>
>Credit goes to the infamous Madman of Madman's Cafe for this shot:
>
> Now... who could they be? Seeing how unbelievably lazy Capcom is, I'm
>gonna guess the one on the bottom left is Sean (the spiky hair plus the
>fact they drew a couple frames in MvC). The rest is pure speculation...
>(although the one on the top left kinda looks like Fei)
>
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Black Dragon
> My guess is they're updated versions of Retsu, Geki, Joe,
> Lee and Eagle from SF1 plus an 'older' version of Balrog
> as in Balrog using Mike's moves, perhaps.
>
> Signed,
> Warewolf at Large
I doubt an old Balrog using Mike's moves will be in it, but maybe he'll
regain his ability to do his Buffalo Headbutt whenever it's charged ( as
opposed to only reversal ). I'm betting at least 1 or 2 new SF1
characters will be in it; I just wonder about which. Geki and Eagle,
anyone? :)
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Black Dragon
<rem...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
I hope so. I've been dying to see Haggar make it into a SF game since SF
Alpha 1. He's got some similarities to Zangief, but his double-fisted
hammer moves make him sort of different, kind of like a cross between
Zangief and Birdie, only a lot cooler than both!
I guess we'll see. . .
Black Dragon
> In article <g1rU1.1609$q4.60...@newsgate.direct.ca>,
> phoffman*@direct.ca (Warewolf at Large) wrote:
> > My guess is they're updated versions of Retsu, Geki, Joe,
> > Lee and Eagle from SF1 plus an 'older' version of Balrog
> > as in Balrog using Mike's moves, perhaps.
> >
> > Signed,
> > Warewolf at Large
> >
> >
>
> That makes sense! After all, there are two things to consider here:
>
> 1. This is the last Alpha game. 2. These are the last remaining characters
> from SF1 (Ryu, Ken, Adon, Gen & Sagat are the others) 3.
Don't forget Birdie. He's originally from SF1, too.
Since they were
> never playable to begin with, this means that there will be 5 *totally* new
> people to play as, unlike the characters in my SFA3-PSX list (Guile, Fei
> Long, Sean, Ibuki and Elena).
>
Yeah. If they were going to bring in Guile they might as well throw out
Charlie. Fei Long, Dee Jay and T. Hawk I'd like to see back, but I'd
rather see the new SF1 characters in it than the new characters in Super.
> I think I'd rather see Warewolf at Large's list than mine. Whaddayou think?
> --
> Fred Davis
>
I'd like to see all the SF1 characters in a Capcom game. I gotta wonder
what Capcom's going to do after they end the Alpha series. Are they going
to bring back Fei Long, T. Hawk, and any of the SF1 characters in a future
series or what?
>
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Black Dragon
Limit) wrote:
> Mike is hard to judge... is he really Balrog, who's called "M.
> Bison" in the Japanese SF2/SFA3? MIKE Bison?
> I'm not sure SF3 characters would make it in, they'd need to have
> frames cut due to the HIGH frame counts of "THREE".
>
There have been rumors and such. I dunno, though .. . Mike looks a lot
different than Balrog. He looks like a middle weight whereas Balrog's a
definite heavy-weight.
> One character I'd like added to SFA3.... Carlos! (Final Fight 2)
> Adding Haggar also would be OK to get the whole crew of the original
> FF into A3.
>
I'd rather see Lynn Kurosawa, personally. Strider, too, if he's toned
down from what he is in MvC.
> On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 06:46:18 GMT, fred...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
Black Dragon
drbla...@aol.com (Drblasfemy) wrote:
> > I think it would be cool if the secret characters were Chris Redfield or
> >Jill Vallentine. I don't think it would mess the story up as much as it
> >would build on it. I think if they threw in anybody from Cyberbots in (Like
> >Jin in MvC) it would ruin the story completely. What about Haggar from
> >Final Fight? Then they would have the whole FF cast complete and then
> >some (Rolento, Sodom). You know Haggar's coming soon to the SF world
> >cause they even have Andore in SF32I. Just a thought.
>
> Having RE in SFA is out for me. If they do get into a fighting game make it a
> Vs one.
>
> Haggar... naw! He has to many moves like Zangief and that's the last thing we
> need. If they're going to have some one from FF make it either Lucia or Dean.
> Lucia would be a prefect tie-in with Cody, cause she's a cop and a good friend
> of his. She could try to catch him before the Metro City PD does.
>
I like Lucia, too. She's got an interesting style of fighting, even if
it's a bit similar to Cammy's. Dean was kind of boring, IMO.
> Dr. Blasphemy @#*!
Black Dragon
drbla...@aol.com (Drblasfemy) wrote:
> >> My guess is they're updated versions of Retsu, Geki, Joe,
> >> Lee and Eagle from SF1 plus an 'older' version of Balrog
> >> as in Balrog using Mike's moves, perhaps.
>
> >That makes sense! After all, there are two things to consider here:
>
> >1. This is the last Alpha game. 2. These are the last remaining characters
> >from SF1 (Ryu, Ken, Adon, Gen & Sagat are the others) 3. Since they were
> >never playable to begin with, this means that there will be 5 *totally* new
> >people to play as, unlike the characters in my SFA3-PSX list (Guile, Fei
> >Long, Sean, Ibuki and Elena).
>
> You forgot Birdie.
>
> I'd rather have my list (D. Dark, Kairi, Allen, Dee Jay, and Lucia. Shadoloo
> Ken is still in there, but since it's only a few new frames and palette swap,
> he's not a true new character.
>
> As for Kairi, I think a figured out a good origin for him. What happened is
> that he was only had his memory erased when being made into a warroir for
> Shadoloo. He didn't receive any programing when SFEX happens.
>
Yeah. They could make his storyline as 1. He's captured by Shadoloo and
his memory is erased by them 2. In SF:EX he escapes from Shadoloo and
fights certain other street fighters and 3. In PSX SFA3, he is recaptured,
programmed and turned against the other street fighters to destroy them or
whatever. Personally, I'd rather see Pullum Purna, Darun, or Blair in PSX
SFA3 than Kairi. He's too. .. Ryu-ish.
> If I did have to pick between the two listed I'd go for the SF1 guys even
> though I love Elena, I can't stand Ibuki. She'd easily dominate the game with
> sheer fire power.
Drblasfemy
>Jill Vallentine. I don't think it would mess the story up as much as it
>would build on it. I think if they threw in anybody from Cyberbots in (Like
>Jin in MvC) it would ruin the story completely. What about Haggar from
>Final Fight? Then they would have the whole FF cast complete and then
>some (Rolento, Sodom). You know Haggar's coming soon to the SF world
>cause they even have Andore in SF32I. Just a thought.
Having RE in SFA is out for me. If they do get into a fighting game make it a
Vs one.
Haggar... naw! He has to many moves like Zangief and that's the last thing we
need. If they're going to have some one from FF make it either Lucia or Dean.
Lucia would be a prefect tie-in with Cody, cause she's a cop and a good friend
of his. She could try to catch him before the Metro City PD does.
Dr. Blasphemy @#*!
Drblasfemy
>> Lee and Eagle from SF1 plus an 'older' version of Balrog
>> as in Balrog using Mike's moves, perhaps.
>That makes sense! After all, there are two things to consider here:
>1. This is the last Alpha game. 2. These are the last remaining characters
>from SF1 (Ryu, Ken, Adon, Gen & Sagat are the others) 3. Since they were
>never playable to begin with, this means that there will be 5 *totally* new
>people to play as, unlike the characters in my SFA3-PSX list (Guile, Fei
>Long, Sean, Ibuki and Elena).
You forgot Birdie.
I'd rather have my list (D. Dark, Kairi, Allen, Dee Jay, and Lucia. Shadoloo
Ken is still in there, but since it's only a few new frames and palette swap,
he's not a true new character.
As for Kairi, I think a figured out a good origin for him. What happened is
that he was only had his memory erased when being made into a warroir for
Shadoloo. He didn't receive any programing when SFEX happens.
If I did have to pick between the two listed I'd go for the SF1 guys even
BionicTuna
>though I love Elena, I can't stand Ibuki. She'd easily dominate the game with
>sheer fire power.
nevermind the fact she'd be in the 10-12 yr old range during this game
-jim-
Jonathan Winkler
2 The Limit wrote:
> Mike is hard to judge... is he really Balrog, who's called "M.
> Bison" in the Japanese SF2/SFA3? MIKE Bison?
I'm sure they were both *based* on the same guy, so it's a fair assumption
they're the same character. :)
> I'm not sure SF3 characters would make it in, they'd need to have
> frames cut due to the HIGH frame counts of "THREE".
>
Well, if they did it for Pocket Fighter...
> One character I'd like added to SFA3.... Carlos! (Final Fight 2)
> Adding Haggar also would be OK to get the whole crew of the original
> FF into A3.
Actually, Maki from FF2 was in the Sakura Ganbaru manga, the same one that
Karin's design came from, so it's possible that Maki's one of the mystery
characters. I don't remember if there were any other cameos though.
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Drblasfemy
>his memory is erased by them 2. In SF:EX he escapes from Shadoloo and
>fights certain other street fighters and 3. In PSX SFA3, he is recaptured,
>programmed and turned against the other street fighters to destroy them or
>whatever. Personally, I'd rather see Pullum Purna, Darun, or Blair in PSX
>SFA3 than Kairi. He's too. .. Ryu-ish.
But the thing that'll make him cool is that he wouldn't be an ARK. He'd play
completely different, since this would be before he lost his memory. Maybe he'd
fight using jujitsu like his sister Hotuko in SFEX.
Dr. Blasphemy @#*!
WhoaMoses
from the EX series. Why? Because Arika owns them, not Capcom! Arika bought a
license to use SF characters in their 3D fighting games, but Capcom does not
own the rights to any original EX characters. And I really doubt that Capcom
will go through the trouble of buying a license to use Arika characters when
they can use Dee Jay, Fei Long, T.Hawk, Guile (but it doesn't look like he's
one of 'em dammit), and Evil Ryu. I just can't believe that Shadaloo Bison
isn't going to be selectable! I wanted to use that cheesy Shadaloo-psycho
crusher too.
Anyways, it seems likely that the secret characters will also not be from SF3.
Why? Because Capcom wouldn't go through the trouble of redrawing the sprites
from that practically-new game, and the existing sprites can't be converted
because of the amazingly high frame rate of the CPS3 engine (alpha 3 STILL runs
on a CPS2). So give up on SF3 characters too.
Sorry to burst your bubbles guys. But the truth must be told. You really
shouldn't be getting your hopes up about these characters that couldn't
possibly be in the game anyway. And so what if there are 5 new characters? We
all know that Vega is still going to be way overpowered over everybody else and
a bitch to beat no matter who you play. And another thing: this is the Alpha
series, not the original SF2 series. My point? Any returning characters will
have piss-poor damage. The massive 1/4 of your energy damage from just tapping
the edge of Fei Long's flaming dragon kick will probably be reduced to a mere
sliver of hurt. And I'm also sure that Capcom will fuck with the priority of
the moves too. Let's be honest, do you really think that any anti-air move that
a character does will out-priorize a Vega wall-drop from directly overhead? I
didn't think so.
Ok, the damage is done. Now that I've crushed all your hopes and dreams, you
can move on to something bigger and better to look forward to than the PSX
Alpha 3. Maybe SF4?
LVJeff
>
> Anyways, it seems likely that the secret characters will also not be from SF3.
> Why? Because Capcom wouldn't go through the trouble of redrawing the sprites
> from that practically-new game, and the existing sprites can't be converted
> because of the amazingly high frame rate of the CPS3 engine (alpha 3 STILL runs
> on a CPS2). So give up on SF3 characters too.
Well, they did draw a CPS2 version of Sean for Ryu's intro in MvC
:-) (not that I believe that an SF3 character will be in
home-Alpha3...)
> And so what if there are 5 new characters? We
> all know that Vega is still going to be way overpowered over everybody else and
> a bitch to beat no matter who you play.
[snip]
> Let's be honest, do you really think that any anti-air move that
> a character does will out-priorize a Vega wall-drop from directly overhead? I
> didn't think so.
Having trouble with Vega, I take it?
--LVJeff
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WhoaMoses
> Having trouble with Vega, I take it?
Not just with Vega. With Tee Carter's Vega. Nuff' said.
slateman
> different than Balrog. He looks like a middle weight whereas Balrog's a
> definite heavy-weight.
yeah, but Birdie looks NOTHING like he used to as well. We can
speculate as to whether or not they're the same, but I doubt Capcom has
put much thought into it since SF2 came out...
So, we've decided:
Eagle
Geki
Lee
Retsu
Mike
Joe
(from SF)
T Hawk
Dee Jay
Fei Long
(from Super)
I hope they don't go ahead w/ Joe or Mike from SF. Retsu had no
moves anyways, he was extremely easy. Geki threw shurikens, he'd be out
of place and cheap! Eagle had his sticks, Lee was a pain in the ass (poke
poke) and that's it for 1, Eagle seems to be the only one they could
consider. I guess lee as well.
Dee Jay seems to be in the game. The silhouette looks a lot like
him.
Still can't believe there's so many characters in A3. 18 in A2,
33 in A3?! Geez. I would be surprised if these silhouettes weren't real
characters. I hope so though!
-slate.
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> I hope they don't go ahead w/ Joe or Mike from SF. Retsu had no
> moves anyways, he was extremely easy. Geki threw shurikens, he'd be out
> of place and cheap!
Yes, cheap characters belong in the vs. games :)
Thanatos.
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