About the Ouroboros
n00body
It's a dragon (something like that) that is laid out in the circle and
is biting its tail. This is supposed to symbolize the ideo that "Everything
eventually leads back to itself"...something like that.
Now how this relates to Strider's Ouroboros, I can't really say
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> I was reading a book and came across what the Ouroboros is in mythology.
>
> It's a dragon (something like that) that is laid out in the circle and
> is biting its tail. This is supposed to symbolize the ideo that "Everything
> eventually leads back to itself"...something like that.
>
> Now how this relates to Strider's Ouroboros, I can't really say
Okay here's a guess on it :) The Ouroboros units (I'm not that familiar
with the game since I don't play MVC much but I'm guessing those are the
small robot units?) act as an extension of Stryder Hiryu, attacking when
he attacks and ceasing when he ceases. They can extend beyond what he
does but are tied directly to him... This adds to his abilities but in
the end it all comes back to Stryder attacking so that they can attack
too. Also the orbit paths when they jump and hop and run seem to run in a
somewhat circular form, IIRC. Or...I could have had just a *little* too
much curry katsu for lunch and am totally off base haha =)
Just my 2 Yen
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translation mix-up. The first boss in Strider was called Ouroboros (and we was
a robot dragon like you said). Somehow that got confused with his super? It's
embarrassing to say Ouroboros in the arcade to someone. They look at you
weird.
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Jinston
Isn't Ouroboros also the name of those streaks of lights you can see in the
far north at night?
Jinston
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"n00body" <KI2...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> I was reading a book and came across what the Ouroboros is in mythology.
>
> It's a dragon (something like that) that is laid out in the circle and
> is biting its tail. This is supposed to symbolize the ideo that "Everything
> eventually leads back to itself"...something like that.
>
> Now how this relates to Strider's Ouroboros, I can't really say
Ouroborous is actually the name of the first boss in Strider. Why they
decided to name Hiryu's bodyguard super "ouroborous" is beyond me.
The boss fits it's name exactly.
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>Isn't Ouroboros also the name of those streaks of lights you can see in the
>far north at night?
>
That would be the Auroara Borialis. (Except spelled better)
James M
Jinston
lol, my mistake. But hey gimme some credit. They sound similar. = )
Aurora Borealis I believe is the spelling.
kayin/ka khiong kwok
the
>>far north at night?
>
>That would be the Auroara Borialis. (Except spelled better)
I think Ouroboros is actually the name of a star, or even a mythological
serpent of Nordic origins. I could be wrong, but since I'm still spending my
time job hunting (The IT careers fair in Melbourne was more or less a
slaughter), I'm not going to bother to check it up. Look it up, you might as
well spend your time looking up dirty words while you at it. ^_-
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Kao Megura
<ka...@mpx.com.au> wrote:
> I think Ouroboros is actually the name of a star, or even a mythological
> serpent of Nordic origins.
You're thinking of the Midgard Serpent aka Jorgandr (sp?). Maybe Ouroboros
(or Urobolos, as it is correctly spelled) is of Russian origin? Then
again, all of Strider's moves reminded me of Sanskrit or Indian or
something like that (Gram, Vagula, etc).
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Kao Megura wrote in message ...
>You're thinking of the Midgard Serpent aka Jorgandr (sp?). Maybe Ouroboros
>(or Urobolos, as it is correctly spelled) is of Russian origin? Then
>again, all of Strider's moves reminded me of Sanskrit or Indian or
>something like that (Gram, Vagula, etc).
I think you're right. One of the other guys might've hit it on the heat
already. It's some sort of Earth Serpent that basically symbolises infinity.
I'm too hot and bothered to be bothered to plonk my face in front of a
Britannica right now. :')
Atsuko "Nuku" Natsume
Maybe Capcom was making fun of themselves (in a roundabout sort of way) for
including so many infinite combos in the Vs. series since the Ouroboros is a
symbol for infinity (or at least a cycle)... am I reading too far into this
thing? Probably. Oh well. ^_^
Castellan
>Isn't Ouroboros also the name of those streaks of lights you can see in the
>far north at night?
That's the Aurora Borealis.
Slightly off-topic, but did anyone notice all the gross mistranslations
of mythical names in the US version of Square's Xenogears?
Urobulus = Ouroboros (The Worm Ouroboros, from Norse mythology,
which encircles the world, endlessly consuming
its own tail in an eternal cycle of creation
and destruction; symbolizes the order of the
universe)
Elhaym = Elohim (an Old Testament word meaning "Divine Being")
There're several others, but durn if I can recall 'em all right
now. Those are the the two biggies.
Even weirder is Miang's "Opiomorph" form, seeing as "opiomorph"
means "the form of an opiate polypeptide or derivative thereof." Mmm. She's
turned into opium.
Man, vidgame companies, especially translation houses, really need
to have a native English speaker go over the final text - a lot of interesting
allegory and association often gets lost.
Well, enough off-topic. Back to the grind.
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douglasBE...@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Castellan) wrote:
> Elhaym = Elohim (an Old Testament word meaning "Divine Being")
>
Actually, translated literally it means something like 'Goddesses'.
It's a feminine plural.
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Trouble Bruin
midgard serpent. i don't have the ability to use any accents or anything
in this e-mail program, but he is also referred to as:
Jormungand
Midarsworm (spelled wrong due to lack of appropriate characters)
Midgard Serpent
this serpent is the son of loki. it eats thor at ragnorok.
Ultima
> this is incorrect. the being you refer to in norse mythology is the
> midgard serpent. i don't have the ability to use any accents or anything in this e-mail program, but he is also referred to as:
>
> Jormungand
> Midarsworm (spelled wrong due to lack of appropriate characters)
> Midgard Serpent
> this serpent is the son of loki. it eats thor at ragnorok.
I was wondering about this myself. I know this creature as The Midgard
Serpent as well, not the Urobulos...
> > Urobulus = Ouroboros (The Worm Ouroboros, from Norse mythology,
> > which encircles the world, endlessly consuming
> > its own tail in an eternal cycle of creation
> > and destruction; symbolizes the order of the
> > universe)
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Castellan wrote in message <7bbvh3$alu$1...@artemis.backbone.ou.edu>...
> Urobulus = Ouroboros (The Worm Ouroboros, from Norse mythology,
> which encircles the world, endlessly consuming
> its own tail in an eternal cycle of creation
> and destruction; symbolizes the order of the
> universe)
Hmmm... so I wasn't too far off then. :')
> Man, vidgame companies, especially translation houses, really need
>to have a native English speaker go over the final text - a lot of
interesting
>allegory and association often gets lost.
Too true, that way it would've stop them from naming a character after a
famous biblical city. :')
kayin/ka khiong kwok
Trouble Bruin wrote in message ...
>this serpent is the son of loki. it eats thor at ragnorok.
Okay this is starting to get a tad ridiculous, but I thought Thor get's
eaten by the Fenaris (hell wolf). I might have to start brushing up on my
mythology. Man, I used to be so into this stuff. :')
Trouble Bruin
tyr's hand earlier. thor acutally doesn't get eaten; i'm sorry. he gets
poisoned by the midgard serpent. this causes him to die.
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onto Egyptian mythology. :')
cheers,
WhoaMoses
>onto Egyptian mythology. :')
Do you think Ra could beat Anubis in a fight? I mean, even gods have to
die......
j/k
Nejimakidori
> Slightly off-topic, but did anyone notice all the gross mistranslations
> of mythical names in the US version of Square's Xenogears? [...]
>
> Elhaym = Elohim (an Old Testament word meaning "Divine Being")
It was "Elehayym" in the original version. I think this was probably
shortened for logistical reasons.
Max C. Strini - s99...@jinx.umsl.edu
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which encircles the world, endlessly consuming
its own tail in an eternal cycle of creation
and destruction; symbolizes the order of the
universe)
Actually, "Urobulus" is not as off-wall as you might think. In Japanese,
there's no distinction between the "R" and "L" sound, so "Urobulus"
and "Ouroboros" (which CAN be spelled as Uroboros...) sound exactly alike.
Not that anyone actually cares about this semantic nonsense... :)
Hellbringer
kayin/ka khiong kwok
WhoaMoses wrote in message <19990301190356...@ng97.aol.com>...
>Do you think Ra could beat Anubis in a fight? I mean, even gods have to
>die......
>j/k
Noooo... oooo... must resist. Let's not go there. This thread must die....
arrrggghhh.... you're pretty cruel. :')
Cheers,
PermaJ
Ouroboros, emblematic serpent of ancient Egypt and Greece represented with its
tail in its mouth continually devouring itself and being reborn from itself. A
Gnostic and alchemical symbol, Ouroboros expresses the unity of all things,
material and spiritual, which never dsiappear but perpetually change form in an
eternal cycle of destruction and re-creation.
In the 19th century, a vision of Ouroboros gave the german chemist Friedrick
August Kukule Von Stradonitz the idea of linked carbon atoms forming the
benzene ring.
PermaJ
volume, and it means something like "doom of the gods," sort of like the
Apocalypse. If you remember playing Strider, in the 5th level Grand Master
Meio says, "all sons of old gods die!" So I guess he wanted to bring about
Ragnarok. Plus, during Ragnarok, "giants and demons approaching from all
points will attack the gods." That's kind of like what Strider does when he
does the Ragnarok super. Uncanny isn't it?
n00body
PermaJ wrote in message <19990304024241...@ng96.aol.com>...
It's also an esper in FF3 US...gotta love that Ultima spell (ultim=final).
Trouble Bruin
story? was that an "ouroboros?"
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gods come back to life. they are led by baldr (or balder). i took a
norse mythology class last semester to fulfill a requirement. when i was
a kid, thor was my fave super-hero, so i read as much mythology as i could
get my hands on.
when the christian missionaries tried to convert the scandinavians, they
proposed that after ragnarok, with all the old gods dead, God came out and
took over.
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On 4 Mar 1999, PermaJ wrote:
Ultima
[Rangnarok]
> It's also an esper in FF3 US...gotta love that Ultima spell (ultim=final).
ENT! ^_^ The Ragnarok esper attack itself (Chang Item) isn't too bad
either... when it works...
n00body
Ultima wrote in message <36DEE968...@rit.edu>...
>n00body wrote:
>
>[Rangnarok]
>
>> It's also an esper in FF3 US...gotta love that Ultima spell
(ultim=final).
>
>ENT! ^_^ The Ragnarok esper attack itself (Chang Item) isn't too bad
>either... when it works...
Ultima
*wonders if he should put this in the FAQ*
ENT - Trinidadian slang. Derivative of "ain't", which in turn is a
derivative of "isn't". It's a shortcut way of saying "Ain't that the
truth" or "Ain't that right". Or simply "Amen", if you will.
n00body
Ultima wrote in message <36DEEF83...@rit.edu>...
>
>*wonders if he should put this in the FAQ*
>
>ENT - Trinidadian slang. Derivative of "ain't", which in turn is a
>derivative of "isn't". It's a shortcut way of saying "Ain't that the
>truth" or "Ain't that right". Or simply "Amen", if you will.
<TI-formula> nDer(nDer(nDer(ain't), isn't), aint that right)
</TI-formula>
kayin/ka khiong kwok
Trouble Bruin wrote in message ...
>story? was that an "ouroboros?"
Errr... I was hoping this thread's died but anyway. Are you talking about
"the Nothing" from the first flick? Errr... no. That's really just a planet
dying.
Or are you talking about the snake symbol? In which case, yes, that is an
ouroboros.