(No Topic, but interesting) SF -- the whole damn story...[kinda]
JaeMasaki
to my best friend, in which he sent to me some time ago and he keeps asking
me to post it to get your thoughts on what you think of it. Basically, this
is a very loooooooooooong storyline/description of how things kinda tie-in
with SF from Capcom's history. Let me repeat, this is really long. Hope
you find it interesting too. I'll continue topics next week, but let's see
what you guys have to say about this story tie-in. :-) Later.
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I'll list all the differences between SF's Japanese and American Storyline.
You don't have to read it, but go ahead if you're interested. I get a lot of
my knowledge of the Japanese storyline from my pal, Saiki, so you me see his
name mentioned in there.
1. Final Fight 1 took place in mid 1980's
2. The Slam Masters series takes place before Final Fight.
3. The final downfall of Mad Gear took place 1 year before Alpha3 (this most
likely
being FF2).
4. By the time the alpha series rolled around, Capcom changed Genryusai to
just
being Maki's dad and master. She also uses the Bushin Ninjutsu fighting
style.
And no, Gunloc/Colt isn't Guile's brother or relative. They're not
related in any way
at all. That was just Capcom USA making things up as usual (similar to
Kazuya's
cousin, lol). The real story is that he was picked up by Haggar and
trained under
him with Biff Slamkovich. Gunloc has gotten in a fight with Cody because
he was
putting the moves on Jessica and lost pretty badly.
5. The only person that's related to Guile is Ken. They're brothers in law.
Jane
(Guile's wife) and Eliza are sisters. The reason He and Ken never had an
intro
was because it was said that Guile disliked Ken because of his big ego
and
"play-boyish" attitude.
6. Here's the chronology: Slammasters/Muscle Bomber {Haggar was a wrestler}
Ring of Destruction {Haggar still a wrestler}
Street Fighter/Final Fight (Haggar is now the Mayor)
Final Fight 2/Street Fighter Alpha 1&2(Guy wasn't in
FF2 because he was chasing down Bison)
Final Fight 3
Rival Schools
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Street Fighter 2 series
Street Fighter 3 series
7. Both Gill and Urien are kinda' like Bison in a sense that their soul
won't die. Urien
is basically, like everyone says, a demi-god.
8. When SF2 was released, Capcom said that Bison was trained by someone
along side 2 other people. So there were two others that were on the
same level
as Bison and one more that was even stronger than him. Capcom never
said
who Bison's master was or who these two mystery people were.
9. Gouki did defeat M.Bison. Capcom has at least confirmed this but they
didn't say
who was fighting Bison at that time. All Capcom has said is that Alex
won the 3rd
SF tournament.
10. Sagat was never a Street Fighter champion. He defeated the former Muay
Thai
Champ, Nua Kahn.
11. Gouken didn't teach Retsu. Retsu and Gouken were friends but they
weren't
pupil and master.
12. Ryu didn't beat Sagat fairly. Sagat actually had a BIG upper hand. When
Ryu
was about to faint, Satsui no Hado awakened. Sagat was actually giving
his
hand out to help Ryu up because he was confident he already won. Sagat
was
caught off guard with Satsui no Ryu's Metsu Shoryuken.
13. Neither Ryu nor Ken saw Gouken battle Gouki. The only witness is
Gouken's
daughter, who disappeared after that.
14. Only Charlie was ordered to take down Bison. Guile was ordered to bring
back
Nash in Alpha 3.
15. Gouken had a daughter who's in the Japanese SF story line. Ryu and Ken
referred to her only as "Little Miss". There were 2 sketches of her
in various Jap.
fan books. The 2 Versions of Gouken's daughter: Imagine Yuri with
hair like
Mai's and wears a yellow gi. Give her an elbow pad. Curl the pants up
to her
knees. Imagine Vice with Black/Blue hair. Give her a white gi. Curl
her pants to
her knees and give her the same beads Gouki has. She never made it
past the
story and sketches.
16. SFA3 takes place 3 years before SF2 series.
17. Since SF2, Sagat has been waiting for Ryu to come to him so they can
have
their final battle to the death.
18. These are the names of the 12 girls Bison kidnapped from around the
world and
trained to become dolls:
Enero (Spain) - January
Fevrier (France) - February
Marz (Germany) - March
Aprile (Italy) - April
Satsuki (Japan) - May
Juni (Germany) - June
Juli (Germany) - July
Santum(-u) (Vietnam) - August
Xiayu (China) - September
Yanyu (China) - October
Noembelu/November (Latin) - November
Decapre/Dikappri (Russia) - December
Noembelu is supposed to be who T Hawk was looking for.
Aprile has a brother that's searching for her and has
talked to Rose about her whereabouts. All of them
(including Cammy) are 16.
19. Dan was kicked out of Gouken's dojo before the first Street Fighter
tourney
began.
20. What became of the following characters after SFA3? Karin - trains so
that one
day she can defeat Sakura
i. R Mika - Became a pro wrestler
ii. Sakura - went off to train around the world
iii. Cody - he's still running around doing useless things
iv. Ryu defeated Sagat once.
v. Alpha takes place a year after Street Fighter.
vi. Gouki's island is named Gouketsutou.
vii. Ryu was supposed to have his red bandana in Zero3 but Capcom got lazy.
21. Sagat let Dan win because he saw that Dan would be corrupted by
"evilness" (I
suppose) if he didn't. Sagat hated Ryu because Ryu beat him with a
cheap shot
and left a scar.
22. No, Yun and Yang have no relation to Gen. Lee is Yun and Yang's father.
23. Sagat lost his right eye.
24. Vega was born in a noble Spanish family. His mother is also from a noble
family
but they went under (everyone in this family was beautiful). The
tattoo on his
body represents his mother's side of the family. Anyways, an ugly
nobleman
picked her up. Despite his ugliness, he was loaded so she married
him and
had Vega. Since Bull Fighting's a common tradition in some Spanish
families,
Vega began to develop a taste for it and became a skillful matador.
However,
he decided to take a twist in his hobbies and went to Japan in order
to learn
Ninjitsu, a style that went perfectly with his agility and speed. He
took part in
many street fights and soon became one of Spain's best cage fighters.
Angry
that his wife lacked respect for him, Vega's father killed Vega's
mom in secret. This is what made Vega snap and turned him into a
psychotic
killer. In the public, he was just an honorable nobleman. At night he
went around
killing ugly street beggars for fun. This is what made M.Bison like
him and
recruits him into Shadowloo. His full name's Vega Fabio de Cerna.
25. Gen and Chun Li's father (Dorai) were actually friends(this is why Chun
Li has
one of Gen's moves). She was told by Gen to find Bison. When she
found him,
she got the @#%$ beat out of her. M.Bison then flew away telling her
the next
time they meet; he'll end her quick like her father.
26. Makoto's dad's name is Masaru.
27. The Japanese (original) name of the fighting style Ryu/Ken use is
Ansatsu-ken.
28. Dan is the one that taught Blanka how to speak English. In the process,
Dan
learned that Blanka's real name was Jimmy. Oh yeah, Blanka once saved
Dan's
life in the jungle. That's how they know each other.
29. Ken's parents and Gouken are long-time friends.
30. The Psycho drive can channel any negative energy or emotions. But Bison
can
get more from fighters. Bison blows up because his current body
couldn't
handle any more Psycho Power. When the Psycho Drive blows up, all the
energy stored in there gets released. The released energy goes to
Bison's
body, Bison's body can't take it and *BOOM*
31. The name's of Ibuki's fellow ninjas/teachers that appear in her stage in
1 of the
SF3's are:
Sanjou- The tall guy in the long coat
Genda- The small, fat and bald Krillin rip-off.
Enjou- The Floating Ninja (NO, HE'S NOT GEKI!).
Raion- The big guy wearing beads around his neck.
Don- the raccoon.
32. Cammy's fellow Delta-Red team Members: (Major)Matthew McCoy- The big
cyborg dude.
Colonel Keith Wolfman- Dude with the scarred face.
1st Lieutenant Rita Ruwanda- Girl with big-ass blade.
George Ginzu- the funny-looking kid.
33. A simplified ending of SFA3: The things that did happen in Zero3.
Rose did fight Bison. Guy came and rescued her after. Exhausted and badly
wounded from the battle, Rose died soon after. Ryu was taken over by Bison.
Believe it or not, Ken and Sakura brought him back to his normal self. Bison
ran away after facing Ryu, Ken and Sakura. All 13 soldiers(Cammy, Juni,
Juli, etc.) turned on M.Bison. Cammy was nearly killed. Vega rescued her
(like in his SFA3 ending) and placed her in front of Delta Red HQ. He didn't
turn against Bison and neither did Balrog. M.Bison faced Guile and Charlie
in his base. The base started to explode and Charlie continued fighting so
Guile and Chun Li could escape. He died, Bison survived. As a side note, T.
Hawk wasn't supposed to take Juli, he was supposed to take Noembelu. But
Capcom was too lazy to make another character so they just changed it to
Juli. I like to say it was Juli so that it stays simple. SF2 story M.Bison
sets up a tournament because he wants to get back at Ryu, Ken, Chunli and
Guile. Sagat enters to get his re-match against Ryu. I think he used the
tournament also as an attempt to lure Gouki out of hiding.
34. Remy's dad deserted him and his older sister. When his sister died, he
froze her
in ice and kept her in that cavern. Now he wants to kill everyone
that fights.
There is no truth to Remy being related to anyone in Street Fighter.
35. Because Street Fighter Alpha 1 & 2 basically run off the same plot,
they're
considered one game, story wise. There is no difference, really. You
probably
noticed how each character holds the same grudge in Alpha 2 as they
did in
Alpha 1.
36. Because Cammy is said to be 19 during the SF2 Series and because her
official birth-date is 1974, SF2WW-SSF2T's suppose to take place
during '93.
Since most people say the SF3 series took place 4/5 years later, SF3
takes
place during 97/98.
37. Rose shares the same soul with Bison and was once his pupil.
38. The Kanji letter "Ki" in Gouki`s name doesn't actually mean "ghost" or
"demon".
it means "Oni". Oni in Japanese is the imaginary monster that looks
like a
horned human. In Japan it is also believed that human or human's
spirit can turn
to Oni when they're extremely obsessed with hatred, anger or
vengeance.
39. Akuma doesn't become Shin Akuma. Akuma IS Shin Akuma, except that he
holds back punches and uses only a small percent of his power. He does
this
because he doesn't want to unnecessarily kill anyone who he feels
aren't out to
kill him in the first place.
40. Gouken had the character "Mu" which means "nothing", "naught" on his
back.
41. So far, the official way Charlie died is Guile's SFZ3 ending. But
knowing
Capcom, they might change that again.
42. Akuma may be evil by our moral standards (he killed his teacher and
brother),
but he is not evil by his own ethical code. His code is the harsh code
of the
absolute warrior. He had no qualms killing his teacher and brother
because he
killed them in fair one-on-one combat. It didn't matter who they were;
the field of
battle does not distinguish between friend or foe. And he only fights
and kills
those who call themselves warriors and trains in fighting; he doesn't
go around
killing defenseless normal people.
43. Ryu first became Evil Ryu when he beat Sagat. That's when it first
awakened in
him. He had no clue what it was then. He then faced off against Gouki
and was
told about "Satsui no Hado". In SFZ3 he was still swaying back and
forth from
being Ryu and evil Ryu. The time when M.Bison had him, he was just a
brain-
washed Ryu who was under Bison's control. Sakura was only about
25-27
during SF3.
44. Bison returned in the SF2 series because his scientists made another
host body
for him.
45. Gouken pic:
www.geocities.com/hyperfi...gouken.jpg
Pics of Street Fighter 1 characters:
www.geocities.com/zeroalp...k1_all.htm
46. Saiki says that Sagat was present during the Ryu, Ken and Sakura vs.
Bison
fight, but didn't help Ryu defeat M.Bison. It was pretty much, Ryu
(controlled by
Bison) vs. Sagat, Ken and Sakura vs. M.Bison. The SF2 series' story
line has
been altered since the Alpha series. Sagat's story line has changed
also. He's
not one of the 4 lords of Shadowloo anymore. With the new story line,
it's Ryu's
turn to go challenge Sagat this time because Sagat beat him. Even
though Ryu
was controlled by Bison, a loss is a loss. Neither Ryu or Sagat
actually has a
clean win over each other. Ryu won the 1st time by tapping into the
powers of
"Satsui no Hado/Dark Hado". Sagat won the 2nd time because Ryu was
brainwashed. That's why Sagat isn't in SF3, he's waiting in Thailand
for the real
re-match against Ryu.
47. Despite that Retsu was only Gouken's long time friend (and not student),
It's still
true that he DID know Ryu, Ken and possibly Gouken's daughter. He's a
fallen monk who practices forbidden techniques of Sholinji kenpo. He
entered
the Street Fighter 1 tourney to fight strong opponents(how cliché is
that?).
48. I've read 2 ways Bison met his end and they both involve Gouki. I'll
tell you both.
a)Gouki interrupted the final battle of the 2nd World Warriors tournament
and killed
Bison with the Raging Demon. What hasn't been said is who was fighting
M.Bison
at that time. I'm guessing it was Ryu.
b)The final battle of the 2nd World Warriors tournament was between Bison
and
Ryu. Even though Bison was at the height of his power, Ryu was able to
bring him
down with a powerful Dragon Punch. Bison slipped into unconsciousness
and
found an unknown fighter standing over him when he awoke. It was in
fact, Gouki, the fighter Bison had heard about during the Alphas.
Before he could
ask Gouki to join him, Gouki used his lethal Raging Demon technique on
the
fallen dictator. Although Bison was believed to have been killed, no
body was
ever found.
49. In the ending of Final Fight, Guy beats up Cody using his combination
attack and
then leaps off screen before Jessica and Cody are reunited. It's not
apparent
whether he was a member of Mad Gear as well or if he just had a grudge
against
Cody, but in SFA2, the mid-boss battle with Rolento hints that he was
a former
Mad Gear member (he tells Guy, "I see you remember your true leader.")
I've
heard that Guy was a former Mad Gear member at least twice before I
read this.
50. The writing on Guy's outfit says Bushin-Warrior(War)God. Bushin is the
Japanese God of War. Guy's the 39th Bushinryu master.
51. Ryu and Ken trained in Gouken's Dojo for 10 years.
52. Dan's Background Story: Once there was a fighter who challenged the
Muay
Thai Emperor, Sagat. This fighter destroyed Sagat's right eye
completely, but
lost. That man's name was Go Hibiki, Dan Hibiki's father. Sometime
after the
battle with Sagat, Go died. Dan, as a young child, hated Sagat
because he
killed his father. To prepare for his revenge, he traveled from his
home in Hong
Kong to Japan to study martial arts. He trained under a Shotokhan
master
named Gouken for a time, but was kicked out of his dojo because his
heart was
too filled with hatred for Sagat. After that, Dan returned to Hong
Kong and
trained himself using his own "style." While he was waiting for his
chance for
revenge, he received news that Sagat had been defeated. According to
rumor,
Sagat was beat by a strange Japanese guy. Dan wonders who this fighter
is.
He cannot let anyone interfere with his plans for revenge. Dan
immediately
heads to Thailand in search of Sagat.
53. Ansatsuken is a Generic Term that translates to "Murderous Fist" but it
actually
means any martial art that is Very Hard. Hard means it goes for the
offense,
for the kill. Unlike Aikido or Judo. This ansatsuken Goutetsu
developed was a
Karate variation. Gen's variation is based on Chinese martial arts
i.e the
Souryuu and Kiryuu. Both are Martial arts developed to kill, therefore
they are
both Ansatsuken. Maybe one way to see this is from just one move from
each
variation: Gouki has the Shun Goku Satsu - A move meant to kill,
hitting the vital
points to destroy your body. Similarly, Gen has the Shi Ten Shou
under the
Souryuu move. This move Hits various vital points on your body to
ultimately
make your body slowly die. Both are moves that were designed to kill,
not injure.
There are probably other ansatsuken out there, just...not in SF. And
yeah, any SF
instruction booklet you look in will say that Gen's fighting style is
Ansatsuken. I'd
know.
54. Zero 2 Ryu's ending happenned
Ken's ending happenned
Chunli's ending happenned
Adon's ending happenned
Sagat's ending happenned(except the fighting Ryu part didn't)
Birdie's ending happenned(except Birdie didn't defeat Vega)
Guy's ending happenned(except he didn't fight Vega)
Nash's ending didn't happen
Rose's ending happenned
Vega's ending happenned
Gouki's ending happenned
Dan's ending happenned
Zangief's ending happenned
Sakura's ending happenned
55. Final Fight 3's plot The Mad Gear Gang met defeat once more in FF2 (at
the
hands of Haggar, Maki and Carlos). With the gang quickly falling
apart, they
fought within themselves, battling each other until one of them
reined supreme.
A lot of the city's other gangs joined the battle over control of the
streets as well.
In the end, the Skull Cross Gang was the victor and it was now up to
Haggar and
Guy to stop them. This also introduces their new allies Lucia and
Dean. Dean
was asked to join the Skull Cross gang, but he refused so they
slaughtered his
family and has him seeking revenge. Lucia's a detective from Metro
City's
Special Crimes Unit who aided Haggar in bringing down the gang as a
way of
repaying him for clearing her of a corruption charge. She's also an
old friend of
Cody's.
56. Yun and Yang are twins, originally from Hong Kong, who use Chinese Kempo
(Kenpo?). Their parents separated when they were very young, so they
moved
in with their grandparents in Shanghai. Now, they're considered to be
town
leaders, always ready to protect their part of Shanghai.
57. The Andore Family:
Andore Jr. (Hugo)
U.Andore
F.Andore
G.Andore
possibly Andore also
58. Go Hibiki has been portrayed in many different ways by many diverse
artists, for
example:
In a non-official Gamest Magazine manga, Go wore a sleeveless gi and
gloves(like
ARK's). His hair was slick back except for one strand that hung forward,
over his forehead.
In Pocket Fighter, he wears a sleeveless dark green gi, a red tengu mask and
matching gloves exactly like the other shotoclones. His hair's like Dan's
and his skin is tanned. Like Dan, he wears a black T-shirt under his gi, and
bears a red symbol on his back, meaning "father."
The truth: Go Hibiki looked like a Muay Thai fighter. Unlike what most
people think, he didn't practice the same art as Gouken, Gouki, Ryu, etc,
etc. He was a pure Muay Thai fighter. Hence he challenged Sagat because
Sagat was the current Muay Thai god at the time.
59. Major Warren Major Warren is one of 3 original characters appearing in
the 4th
Street Fighter Drama CD, "Street Fighter II Gaiden ~Cammy - Tatakai
no
Jokyoku." A fellow member of Britain's Special Operations Division, he
is
partnered with Cammy for most of the story. He is 43 years old.
60. Lucia's(Final Fight 3)last name's Morgan.
61. SF Characters with official last names
Ken Masters
Edmund Honda
Sakura Kasugano
Cammy White
Dan Hibiki
Mike Bison
Karin Kanzuki
Mika Nanakawa
Yun Lee
Yang Lee
Sean Matsuda
Rolento Schugerg (possibly)
Hugo Andore
62. The Shadaloo Dolls:
www.shadaloo.hpg.com.br/J...0Final.gif
www.cammyfan.com/Cammy-in...clones.gif
63. The idea of Ryu falling in love with Chun Li is impossible. Not because
she is not
good enough, but because their paths do not cross. Ryu has really
devoted his
entire life to the way, so he really couldn't care less about having
this kind of
relationship with a woman. Again, if you saw the movie, remember when
Ken's
girlfriend comes to pick him up at the end of the film? Ryu wasn't
even looking at
her! And she was very attractive. I don't think it was out of
disrespect, but rather
because Ryu has the mentality of a child in that respect. Within a
child, sexual
desires are non-existent. So he was probably thinking of the fight
again.
64. For those of you who don't know, Gill's secretary's name's "Kolin".
Samantha- Blanka's mother.
Sally & Datta- Dhalsim's wife and son.
Senoh- This is the scientist from the SF Anime, who appears in some endings
in
SF Alpha 2.
kelvSYC
According to Final Fight One GBA, 1989.
> 2. The Slam Masters series takes place before Final Fight.
Haggar's ending in Slam Masters 2 would say otherwise.
> 3. The final downfall of Mad Gear took place 1 year before Alpha3 (this most
> likely being FF2).
> 4. By the time the alpha series rolled around, Capcom changed Genryusai to
> just being Maki's dad and master. She also uses the Bushin Ninjutsu fighting
> style. And no, Gunloc/Colt isn't Guile's brother or relative. They're
> not related in any way at all. That was just Capcom USA making things
> up as usual (similar to Kazuya's cousin, lol). The real story is that
> he was picked up by Haggar and trained under him with Biff
> Slamkovich. Gunloc has gotten in a fight with Cody because he was
> putting the moves on Jessica and lost pretty badly.
What was Maki's and Genryusai's relationship changed from?
Then so the "Master Zeku" Guy refers to in A3 is Genryusai?
> 5. The only person that's related to Guile is Ken. They're brothers
> in law. Jane (Guile's wife) and Eliza are sisters. The reason He and
> Ken never had an intro was because it was said that Guile disliked
> Ken because of his big ego and "play-boyish" attitude.
I thought it would be because Guile was obsessed with finding Charlie.
> 6. Here's the chronology: Slammasters/Muscle Bomber {Haggar was a wrestler}
> Ring of Destruction {Haggar still a wrestler}
> Street Fighter/Final Fight (Haggar is now the Mayor)
> Final Fight 2/Street Fighter Alpha 1&2(Guy wasn't in
> FF2 because he was chasing down Bison)
> Final Fight 3
> Rival Schools
> Street Fighter Alpha 3
> Street Fighter 2 series
> Street Fighter 3 series
Rival Schools 2 would be where? And if Pocket Fighter, the VS Series,
Darkstalkers, and CvS was in continuity, where would they be?
> 7. Both Gill and Urien are kinda' like Bison in a sense that their
> soul won't die. Urien is basically, like everyone says, a demi-god.
>
> 8. When SF2 was released, Capcom said that Bison was trained by
> someone along side 2 other people. So there were two others that were
> on the same level as Bison and one more that was even stronger than
> him. Capcom never said who Bison's master was or who these two
> mystery people were.
Did Bison kill those two people?
> 9. Gouki did defeat M.Bison. Capcom has at least confirmed this but
> they didn't say who was fighting Bison at that time. All Capcom has
> said is that Alex won the 3rd SF tournament.
>
> 10. Sagat was never a Street Fighter champion. He defeated the former
> Muay Thai Champ, Nua Kahn.
>
> 11. Gouken didn't teach Retsu. Retsu and Gouken were friends but they
> weren't pupil and master.
>
> 12. Ryu didn't beat Sagat fairly. Sagat actually had a BIG upper
> hand. When Ryu was about to faint, Satsui no Hado awakened. Sagat was
> actually giving his hand out to help Ryu up because he was confident
> he already won. Sagat was caught off guard with Satsui no Ryu's Metsu
> Shoryuken.
>
> 13. Neither Ryu nor Ken saw Gouken battle Gouki. The only witness is
> Gouken's daughter, who disappeared after that.
They say that Ken had battled Gouki once. Is that true?
> 14. Only Charlie was ordered to take down Bison. Guile was ordered to bring
> back Nash in Alpha 3.
>
> 15. Gouken had a daughter who's in the Japanese SF story line. Ryu
> and Ken referred to her only as "Little Miss". There were 2 sketches
> of her in various Jap. fan books. The 2 Versions of Gouken's
> daughter: Imagine Yuri with hair like Mai's and wears a yellow gi.
> Give her an elbow pad. Curl the pants up to her knees. Imagine Vice
> with Black/Blue hair. Give her a white gi. Curl her pants to her
> knees and give her the same beads Gouki has. She never made it past
> the story and sketches.
Too bad we didn't see her in any SF game, past or present. Maybe in
the future...
I wouldn't call points 4-7 "Where are we now with the A3 characters".
And why is it called Shotokan style now?
> 28. Dan is the one that taught Blanka how to speak English. In the
> process, Dan learned that Blanka's real name was Jimmy. Oh yeah,
> Blanka once saved Dan's life in the jungle. That's how they know each
> other.
Blanka speaks English?
> 29. Ken's parents and Gouken are long-time friends.
No wonder how Ken became a student of Gouken.
If Vega was loyal to Bison, why did he place Cammy in the DR base
instead of someplace more suitable so that Vega could just return Cammy
at a suitable time?
I take it that Cammy's style is used in all of the clones. But why is
Juli and Juni the only ones playable, and why did they pick these two?
> 34. Remy's dad deserted him and his older sister. When his sister
> died, he froze her in ice and kept her in that cavern. Now he wants
> to kill everyone that fights. There is no truth to Remy being related
> to anyone in Street Fighter.
>
> 35. Because Street Fighter Alpha 1 & 2 basically run off the same
> plot, they're considered one game, story wise. There is no
> difference, really. You probably noticed how each character holds the
> same grudge in Alpha 2 as they did in Alpha 1.
I noticed that Cody was imprisoned between A2 and A3. When did Edi E.
turn straight (if ever)?
> 36. Because Cammy is said to be 19 during the SF2 Series and because
> her official birth-date is 1974, SF2WW-SSF2T's suppose to take place
> during '93. Since most people say the SF3 series took place 4/5 years
> later, SF3 takes place during 97/98.
>
> 37. Rose shares the same soul with Bison and was once his pupil.
No wonder why Rose died.
> 38. The Kanji letter "Ki" in Gouki`s name doesn't actually mean
> "ghost" or "demon". it means "Oni". Oni in Japanese is the imaginary
> monster that looks like a horned human. In Japan it is also believed
> that human or human's spirit can turn to Oni when they're extremely
> obsessed with hatred, anger or vengeance.
>
> 39. Akuma doesn't become Shin Akuma. Akuma IS Shin Akuma, except that
> he holds back punches and uses only a small percent of his power. He
> does this because he doesn't want to unnecessarily kill anyone who he
> feels aren't out to kill him in the first place.
So that explains how Akuma becomes Shin-Akuma in CvS2. Is it because
of the Orochi blood that Rugal put in Akuma so that he can't throttle
his power?
> 40. Gouken had the character "Mu" which means "nothing", "naught" on his
> back.
>
> 41. So far, the official way Charlie died is Guile's SFZ3 ending. But
> knowing Capcom, they might change that again.
According to Guile's SF2 ending, Point 48106 (the Psycho Drive base)is
in Cambodia, but A3 says that Point 48106 Thailand. Which one is
right?
> 42. Akuma may be evil by our moral standards (he killed his teacher
> and brother), but he is not evil by his own ethical code. His code is
> the harsh code of the absolute warrior. He had no qualms killing his
> teacher and brother because he killed them in fair one-on-one combat.
> It didn't matter who they were; the field of battle does not
> distinguish between friend or foe. And he only fights and kills those
> who call themselves warriors and trains in fighting; he doesn't go
> around killing defenseless normal people.
I'd believe that since Akuma is the only character close to being a
villain in Pocket Fighter... I don't see Akuma as a villain either.
> 43. Ryu first became Evil Ryu when he beat Sagat. That's when it
> first awakened in him. He had no clue what it was then. He then faced
> off against Gouki and was told about "Satsui no Hado". In SFZ3 he was
> still swaying back and forth from being Ryu and evil Ryu. The time
> when M.Bison had him, he was just a brain- washed Ryu who was under
> Bison's control. Sakura was only about 25-27 during SF3.
>
> 44. Bison returned in the SF2 series because his scientists made another
> host body for him.
>
> 45. Gouken pic:
> www.geocities.com/hyperfi...gouken.jpg
> Pics of Street Fighter 1 characters:
> www.geocities.com/zeroalp...k1_all.htm
>
> 46. Saiki says that Sagat was present during the Ryu, Ken and Sakura
> vs. Bison fight, but didn't help Ryu defeat M.Bison. It was pretty
> much, Ryu (controlled by Bison) vs. Sagat, Ken and Sakura vs.
> M.Bison. The SF2 series' story line has been altered since the Alpha
> series. Sagat's story line has changed also. He's not one of the 4
> lords of Shadowloo anymore. With the new story line, it's Ryu's turn
> to go challenge Sagat this time because Sagat beat him. Even though
> Ryu was controlled by Bison, a loss is a loss. Neither Ryu or Sagat
> actually has a clean win over each other. Ryu won the 1st time by
> tapping into the powers of "Satsui no Hado/Dark Hado". Sagat won the
> 2nd time because Ryu was brainwashed. That's why Sagat isn't in SF3,
> he's waiting in Thailand for the real re-match against Ryu.
Magneto's ending in XvSF suggests that Sagat was a member of shadaloo,
at least until SFA3.
Either that or Rolento has a superiority complex and believes that
everyone had known Rolento was their supreme leader.
Charlie got the short end of the stick, eh?
> 55. Final Fight 3's plot The Mad Gear Gang met defeat once more in
> FF2 (at the hands of Haggar, Maki and Carlos). With the gang quickly
> falling apart, they fought within themselves, battling each other
> until one of them reined supreme. A lot of the city's other gangs
> joined the battle over control of the streets as well. In the end,
> the Skull Cross Gang was the victor and it was now up to Haggar and
> Guy to stop them. This also introduces their new allies Lucia and
> Dean. Dean was asked to join the Skull Cross gang, but he refused so
> they slaughtered his family and has him seeking revenge. Lucia's a
> detective from Metro City's Special Crimes Unit who aided Haggar in
> bringing down the gang as a way of repaying him for clearing her of a
> corruption charge. She's also an old friend of Cody's.
Brings more mystery into why Cody was imprisoned. Did Lucia frame him?
Did Poison/Hugo? Guy? Rolento?
> 56. Yun and Yang are twins, originally from Hong Kong, who use
> Chinese Kempo (Kenpo?). Their parents separated when they were very
> young, so they moved in with their grandparents in Shanghai. Now,
> they're considered to be town leaders, always ready to protect their
> part of Shanghai.
How did Yun and Yang reunite?
> 57. The Andore Family:
> Andore Jr. (Hugo)
> U.Andore
> F.Andore
> G.Andore
> possibly Andore also
>
> 58. Go Hibiki has been portrayed in many different ways by many diverse
> artists, for example:
>
> In a non-official Gamest Magazine manga, Go wore a sleeveless gi and
> gloves(like ARK's). His hair was slick back except for one strand
> that hung forward, over his forehead.
>
> In Pocket Fighter, he wears a sleeveless dark green gi, a red tengu mask and
> matching gloves exactly like the other shotoclones. His hair's like Dan's
> and his skin is tanned. Like Dan, he wears a black T-shirt under his gi, and
> bears a red symbol on his back, meaning "father."
>
> The truth: Go Hibiki looked like a Muay Thai fighter. Unlike what most
> people think, he didn't practice the same art as Gouken, Gouki, Ryu, etc,
> etc. He was a pure Muay Thai fighter. Hence he challenged Sagat because
> Sagat was the current Muay Thai god at the time.
So to make an average, Go is a cross between King, Joe, and Takuma...
> 59. Major Warren is one of 3 original characters appearing in the 4th
> Street Fighter Drama CD, "Street Fighter II Gaiden ~Cammy - Tatakai
> no Jokyoku." A fellow member of Britain's Special Operations
> Division, he is partnered with Cammy for most of the story. He is 43
> years old.
Too bad he isn't in SF.
How did Ryu meet Chun-Li then, since Chun-Li appeared in one of Ryu's
flashbacks in his ending?
> 64. For those of you who don't know, Gill's secretary's name's "Kolin".
>
> Samantha- Blanka's mother.
> Sally & Datta- Dhalsim's wife and son.
> Senoh- This is the scientist from the SF Anime, who appears in some endings
> in SF Alpha 2.
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Is this official (i.e., Capcom of Japan)? Because the bullfighter/ninja
combination is a *very* unlikely combination, especially since his style
resembles neither of them (see Laurence Blood in Fatal Fury 2 for a
bullfighter; see a dozen other characters for ninja, from Geki to
Strider). His fighting style always struck me as an adaptation of
Flamenco dancing (much as Capoera is an adaptation of a Brazillian dance
style), which ties in with the fact that his original SF2 background is
a club featuring, you guessed it, Flamenco dancers. (See Don Flamenco,
from the NES version of Punch-Out, for another Spaniard using flamenco
as a fighting style).
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> > 1. Final Fight 1 took place in mid 1980's
>
> According to Final Fight One GBA, 1989.
>
> > 2. The Slam Masters series takes place before Final Fight.
>
> Haggar's ending in Slam Masters 2 would say otherwise.
>
> > 3. The final downfall of Mad Gear took place 1 year before Alpha3 (this most
> > likely being FF2).
> > 4. By the time the alpha series rolled around, Capcom changed Genryusai to
> > just being Maki's dad and master. She also uses the Bushin Ninjutsu
fighting
> > style. And no, Gunloc/Colt isn't Guile's brother or relative. They're
> > not related in any way at all. That was just Capcom USA making things
> > up as usual (similar to Kazuya's cousin, lol). The real story is that
> > he was picked up by Haggar and trained under him with Biff
> > Slamkovich. Gunloc has gotten in a fight with Cody because he was
> > putting the moves on Jessica and lost pretty badly.
>
> What was Maki's and Genryusai's relationship changed from?
>
> Then so the "Master Zeku" Guy refers to in A3 is Genryusai?
The story, as I've heard it, is :
Guy's master was Genryusai, who was kidnapped by Mad Gear in Final Fight
2. Later, Capcom apparently forgot they had already given Guy a master
and created Zeku as his master. Apparently, Capcom tried to rectify this
by deciding that Genryusai was actually the Bushin style master before
Zeku.
>
> > 5. The only person that's related to Guile is Ken. They're brothers
> > in law. Jane (Guile's wife) and Eliza are sisters. The reason He and
> > Ken never had an intro was because it was said that Guile disliked
> > Ken because of his big ego and "play-boyish" attitude.
>
> I thought it would be because Guile was obsessed with finding Charlie.
>
> > 6. Here's the chronology: Slammasters/Muscle Bomber {Haggar was a wrestler}
> > Ring of Destruction {Haggar still a wrestler}
> > Street Fighter/Final Fight (Haggar is now the Mayor)
> > Final Fight 2/Street Fighter Alpha 1&2(Guy wasn't in
> > FF2 because he was chasing down Bison)
> > Final Fight 3
> > Rival Schools
> > Street Fighter Alpha 3
> > Street Fighter 2 series
> > Street Fighter 3 series
>
> Rival Schools 2 would be where? And if Pocket Fighter, the VS Series,
> Darkstalkers, and CvS was in continuity, where would they be?
>
I've heard that the CvS series happens between SF2 and SF3.
If I hear correctly, never. He was still corrupt when he jailed Cody.
However, it seems Cody decided to keep fighting people for the love of
fighting after Final Fight and Edie E. arrested him for it, for once,
making a legitimate arrest.
More info is here :
http://db.gamefaqs.com/coinop/misc/file/street_fighter_plot.txt
>
> > 36. Because Cammy is said to be 19 during the SF2 Series and because
> > her official birth-date is 1974, SF2WW-SSF2T's suppose to take place
> > during '93. Since most people say the SF3 series took place 4/5 years
> > later, SF3 takes place during 97/98.
> >
> > 37. Rose shares the same soul with Bison and was once his pupil.
>
> No wonder why Rose died.
Kind of sad, too. I would've liked to see Rose come back. Interesting
character.
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wrote:
I have an instruction manual to SF2T which says his style is Spanish
Ninjutsu. Spanish Ninjutsu is a combination of Savate with the acrobatics
of Ninjutsu. In a guide to SF2:WW and SF2:CE, it listed Vega's style as
Savate, but later changed it to explain the various flips and somersaults
in his style.
His fighting style always struck me as an adaptation of
> Flamenco dancing (much as Capoera is an adaptation of a Brazillian dance
> style), which ties in with the fact that his original SF2 background is
> a club featuring, you guessed it, Flamenco dancers. (See Don Flamenco,
> from the NES version of Punch-Out, for another Spaniard using flamenco
> as a fighting style).
>
> -Raiutaryuu-
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>
> >Blanka speaks English?
>
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Is Rose's death actually canon?
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DarkStorm
Exactly. Flips and somersaults are part of a dancer's repoitoire.
Neither bullfighting nor any style of ninpo (ninpo being the ninja
martial art, one that most closely resembles the defensive aspects of
aikido; ninjutsu being the full line of assassination skills) uses them.