pArRies ToneD DoWn!--> In SF3:3rd Strike
LazyJae
said that the parries were toned down. The game is not a parry fest no more.
Now what do ya think about the game?
Onaje Everett
Details, please?
If you're going to post something, ask yourself questions like:
Who?
What?
Where?
When?
How?
Why?
That sort of stuff.
So, the questions I have would be: What page and who's the author of this
information? HOW are they toned down?
BTW, just because you say that parries have been toned down doesn't mean that
you can assume that it's not a parry-fest anymore. If you can't give us
detailed information, we'll have to do what we were planning on doing anyway:
Wait and see.
Onaje Everett
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Sean 3i
>said that the parries were toned down. The game is not a parry fest no more.
>Now what do ya think about the game?
Err..umm... can you be a bit more descriptive?
The only things I know about 3s is that its way faster than 2i. The CPS3 engine
has been recoded. There are different jump arcs when it comes to mid-air
parries. You can't combo off of Yun/Yang/Ibuki's Cr. Short.. or was that..can't
chain. Ryu has his rushing punch from ST back. Throws are jp+sk or F+jp+sk.
They are not sure if EVEN more start up frames are going to be given to the
throws. :/
Universal overheads(the hop!) is now D+SP+Fwd. And as far as parries go its the
same motion.Multiple air parries are still the same blah blah. One new feature
is the guard cancel in 3s. For i.e. If Ryu does a Shinkuu Hadouken you can
block the first hit and parry the rest. Vice versa. You come out of block stun.
Currently the game is being tested in Okinawa. Thats about it.
Elu
Oh almost forgot the source. http://plaza6.mbn.or.jp/~ssmith/index.html
Those are the 2i game testers. They have crazy combos for all of the 2i
characters. :)
Atsuko "Nuku" Natsume
was abuseable.
Jinston
>According to a page I read somewhere on the net. Concerning SF3:3rd Strike
it
>said that the parries were toned down. The game is not a parry fest no
more.
>Now what do ya think about the game?
I think you're bullshitting.
Jinston
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>I'll believe it when I see it... they 'toned down' parries in 2i, and it
still
>was abuseable.
>
Ultima
> Atsuko \ Nuku" Natsume > wrote in message <36D86051...@yahoo.com>...
> >I'll believe it when I see it... they 'toned down' parries in 2i, and it still was abuseable.
> How? I noticed no difference.
You could only pary high attacks high and parry low attacks low in 2I,
where as in SF3 you could parry high or low for high attacks (not sure
about low). Thus, they were slightly toned down, but clearly not enough.
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Atsuko \ Nuku" Natsume > wrote in message <36D86051...@yahoo.com>...
>I'll believe it when I see it... they 'toned down' parries in 2i, and it
still
>was abuseable.
>
Onaje Everett
"Jinston" <1JJC...@MtSAC.Edu> wrote:
> Atsuko \ Nuku" Natsume > wrote in message <36D86051...@yahoo.com>...
> >I'll believe it when I see it... they 'toned down' parries in 2i, and it
> still
> >was abuseable.
> >
You can't parry mid attacks with a low parry. For example, try parrying a
Hadouken low and you get hit. This really only toned down option select.
James Margaris
[clip]
>Universal overheads(the hop!) is now D+SP+Fwd. And as far as parries go its the
>same motion.Multiple air parries are still the same blah blah. One new feature
>is the guard cancel in 3s. For i.e. If Ryu does a Shinkuu Hadouken you can
>block the first hit and parry the rest. Vice versa. You come out of block stun.
>Currently the game is being tested in Okinawa. Thats about it.
What the fuck? This is the WORST idea I have ever heard. This makes multi-hit
moves worhtless. ES moves? Hitting more than once used to make it a little
harder to parry, If this is true, multi-hit moves will be the ultimate parry
bait. Even if you surpise your opponent enough to make them block, you die.
This is equivalent to being able to block cancel with a super on multi-hit
moves. Brilliant. Super Alpha Counters.
James M
ps: Thanks for info
kayin/ka khiong kwok
Cheers,
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SF3 had just the best feel to it.
-bt-
JB
ass-holes like this. "I think you're bullshitting." Quote of Jinstons post.
As for who? what? where? when? how? I don't remember all the details I was
over at a friends house and he showed it to me. quoting it.(Not the exact
words but it will have to do for now) "That after a parry the game sort of
pauses." As for the Universal overhead being changed I did not know about
that. I also like the way 2I moves but I like the game alot.
Also you PPL said that U can parry into a super combo. U can block into a
super combo. Juz thought I would throw that in there.
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JB Gainz
Bionictuna wrote:
I gree SF3 has the best feel of any 2D game. It feels so smooth and natural.
I would not call SFA3 as having a cheap feel.. but I noticed the couple of
times a played it, that after a player was hit hard they seem to freeze and
then suddenly fall back quickly.. it is not that bad, but just a little
annoying. Airblocks add another awkwardness. Versus games do airblocks
better, because of the bouncy push back effect. SFA games just have a player
stopping in midair. Once again this is not a big problem, but just not
pleasing to the eye... I am glad airblocks were eliminated in SF3.
JB GAINZ
Onaje Everett
jae...@excite.com (JB) wrote:
> That is why I don't like giving the source of my info becoz
> ass-holes like this. "I think you're bullshitting." Quote of Jinstons post.
Another logical reason, right? Just say you don't know and move on, please.
> As for who? what? where? when? how? I don't remember all the details I was
> over at a friends house and he showed it to me. quoting it.(Not the exact
> words but it will have to do for now) "That after a parry the game sort of
> pauses."
Doesn't the game do that already? Yes.
My advice to you is to leave the reports to the people who know how to do them
(i.e. Tom Cannon, Julien Beasely, and others out there that I can't remember
right now).
> As for the Universal overhead being changed I did not know about
> that. I also like the way 2I moves but I like the game alot.
Like I said...read the above.
> Also you PPL said that U can parry into a super combo. U can block into a
> super combo.
Yeah....but the difference in that is that you're not guaranteed anything
after blocking something unless it's a move with recovery time. You can't
block and super a jab. You can parry and super a jab, though.
PULL!!! ........*BANG*.........
Ultima
>
> That is why I don't like giving the source of my info becoz
BULLSHIT, it will have to do for now. We're supposed to take your word
that something you're para-phrasing from something your friend (God
alone knows who that is) supposedly said or "showed you". Yeah, that's
proof. Get real.
[snip]
> Also you PPL said that U can parry into a super combo. U can block into a super combo. Juz thought I would throw that in there.
More of that lovely (read: STUPID) JB logic. True, you can "block into a
super", if by that you mean "block an attack that has sufficiently long
recovery and retaliate with a super that has fast enough start-up time".
That IS what you meant, right? Well, that's different to parrying at
attack and pulling out a super. The former case requires the attacker to
stick out a big attack and for you to *quickly* do your super while the
attacker is recovering. You're taking the risk that you're super will be
blocked afterwards too. You're capitalizing on a big mistake. With the
latter case, you opponent MERELY HAS TO ATTACK (with anything other
than a jab or a short) for you to potentially get a super. While there
is a chance your super can be blocked in this case as well, parrying
gives you a much larger window to attack than blocking, so there is a
much less chance of your super getting blocked.
So in one case, if you make a really big mistake, you get punished. In
the latter case, anything you throw out has the potential to punished.
This can all be summed up in one word: STUPID. This also applies to you
logic.
Atsuko "Nuku" Natsume
might be JB Gainz, but then he turns around and talks like LazyJae... hmm...
coincidence?
JB wrote:
> That is why I don't like giving the source of my info becoz
>
> ass-holes like this. "I think you're bullshitting." Quote of Jinstons post.
Um... if you don't give an information source, you sound like you're just
pulling stuff out of your rear...
> As for who? what? where? when? how? I don't remember all the details I was
> over at a friends house and he showed it to me. quoting it.(Not the exact
He 'showed' it to you? As in a magazine? Or did he somehow get the game itself
so you can know what it's like before the rest of us?
> words but it will have to do for now) "That after a parry the game sort of
> pauses." As for the Universal overhead being changed I did not know about
> that. I also like the way 2I moves but I like the game alot.
*sigh*... more non sequitur... Anyhow, the game sort-of-pauses is right. The
game pauses for the poor fool who threw the attack and the defender gets his
free 50% combo...
> Also you PPL said that U can parry into a super combo. U can block into a
> super combo. Juz thought I would throw that in there.
Block into super is possible, but blocking that counter-super is also possible.
You cannot block a parry-into-super move. It's not possible.
Whoever you are, you don't seem to have learned, you just try to stir up
trouble by picking up new names and attempting to disturb people. Please stop
posting mindless drivel like this.
--Nuku
JB
name I am using. I have nothing to do with JB Gainz. Don't U see how clear
it is. when JB Gainz the name comes up JB Gainz. and when I post now it only
comes up JB. What the hell do U think there is only one JB in the planet.
What the hell do U want NEway?
I said I read it on a Web-page that my friend showed me. What do U think I
am suppose to get a pen and pad and copy the URL to come and show it to
ya'll.
As for the pause after the parries, Both characters Pause not juz one. Damn
! have U even seen NE of the movies? Furby give it a rest.
JB
name I am using. I have nothing to do with JB Gainz. Don't U see how clear
JB
Am I not correct when I say this.
When you start a combo and you throw in a Super Combo-->
does the super take all the damage?
[U can still give me your answer]
No. So why do U complain about Parrying into a Combo that includes a Super
combo. I seen somebody doing a 30 something hit combo and it was'nt taking
shit of energy. So as for the end of this Parry so called flame.
All you PPL are liars and this is what me and a bunch of 2I fans in my house
at this very minute 10:25 pm came up with.
U hate parries becoz they are to easy --> Yeah RIGHT!!!!
[U can't do it and U get your asswooped daily in your arcade, Becoz all the
NICE niggaz we know that play 2I use parries and they never bitch when they
lose or win.]
2I sucks becoz of Parries --> Yeah RIGHT!!!!
[Like I said earlier something that helps U win U will not knock it becoz it
is to easy to do. I played X-Men Vs SF with Sabretooth and Wolverine and I
used to do the same COMBO non-stop and I used to win where ever I went,
Wether it was Broadway Arcade, Playland, Chinatown Fair, Games Express,
Uptown Local arcades. I used to win and laugh at my competition becoz they
knew exactly what I was gonna do and they could not stop it. Also if you
don't like the parries and U R Playing someone that is as STUPID as U R,
don't do parries, Isn't that common sense. STUPID Dick Heads.]
This is directed to FURBY, Onaje,Jinston,Ultima, and other Dickheads in this
NG! Ok I understand that U don't like 2I. but if U don't like it don't blame
it on the parry. Juz come out in cold blood and say it. [FURBY,
Onaje,Jinston,Ultima -->] I AM A SCRUB and I can't win so I need to make
excuses why I should'nt like 2I. Excuses are for baby's. Baby's complain
mami give me my bottle, pass me your nipple, I don't want to go to school,
Baby's complain. As U get older complaining gets useless. so STOP it please
I am begging. I don't think ya know what ya write but Look at how U idiots
sound.
>Parries Suck because you can parry and then do a Super.
>Parries Suck because they are to easy to do.
>Parries suck because I win using them.
All this sounds stupid. Go get a better excuse like. I hate parries because
I go to my arcade and I get my ass wooped by kids that can parry there ass
off and they leave me with my mouth open on how many perfects they get on
me. As U run out of the Arcade screaming DAMN PARRIES SUCK. In A2 you would
run out of the Arcades screaming DAMN ALPHA COUNTERS SUCK. In Super Turbo
running out WHY THE FUCK did they put in Super Moves. What is gonna be the
excuse in SF4. And if SF is getting so pitiful juz stop playing them and
start playing Mortal Kombat with the other idiots.
That is all I have to say. And don't give me stupid feed back becoz it is
not needed I got all that off my chest and my mind will never change. Yeah I
am stubborn whatever U want to say. I could care less and don't tell me to
stop posting in this NG, coz I will not stop. So juz shut the fuck up and
keep talking about A3 but as soon as U mention SF3, SF3:2I, or SF3:3rd
Strike U better get ready to hear my mouth.
Chocobo
today, you are not fooling anyone. You are an idiot, you're a liar, and you're
not fooling anyone but yourself with this moronic name changing business. All of
your split personalities have the same misspelling and grammar problems and all
have the same thoughts on all of the different games... stop pretending that
you're fooling people. In fact, just stop posting your idiotic shit until you
can at least figure out who you are.
JB wrote:
> -A quick question dick heads-
Dickheads? You are nothing but a lame troll... I only wish everyone could just
ignore you and stop replying to your random nonsensical babblings, but that
never works.
>
> Am I not correct when I say this.
>
> When you start a combo and you throw in a Super Combo-->
>
> does the super take all the damage?
>
> [U can still give me your answer]
>
No, the super does not do all of the damage, obviously.
>
> No. So why do U complain about Parrying into a Combo that includes a Super
> combo. I seen somebody doing a 30 something hit combo and it was'nt taking
> shit of energy. So as for the end of this Parry so called flame.
GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD. I've explained this many times, and so have other
people. We complain about parrying into a combo that includes a super because
that means I'm being punished for attacking by losing a big chunk of life. That
is a lame thing to put in a fighting game... attacking = losing? That makes no
sense, but that's SF3 for you. Now what the hell does any of that have to do
with how much damage a super does inside of a multi-part combo? Nothing, of
course... you never make any sense anyway.
>
> All you PPL are liars and this is what me and a bunch of 2I fans in my house
> at this very minute 10:25 pm came up with.
What a laugh... how can you of all people, call someone else a liar... you're a
joke. You and your bunch of 2I fans (your alternate personalities, most likely)
don't know shit about the game.
>
> U hate parries becoz they are to easy --> Yeah RIGHT!!!!
I wonder what skill level you are at if you think that tapping forward on the
joystick is difficult.
>
> [U can't do it and U get your asswooped daily in your arcade
Whatever. Quit with the bullshit and stick with the facts.
> , Becoz all the
> NICE niggaz we know that play 2I use parries and they never bitch when they
> lose or win.]
At least you're right about that... the best players use parries all over the
place, and never complain about losing or winning.
>
> 2I sucks becoz of Parries --> Yeah RIGHT!!!!
Hey, you finally figured it out. Congratulations.
> . I played X-Men Vs SF with Sabretooth and Wolverine and I
> used to do the same COMBO non-stop and I used to win where ever I went,
> Wether it was Broadway Arcade, Playland, Chinatown Fair, Games Express,
> Uptown Local arcades. I used to win and laugh at my competition becoz they
> knew exactly what I was gonna do and they could not stop it.
Well, your competition certainly must suck pretty bad if they know exactly what
you're going to do and can't even stop you once. Especially considering the fact
that you've proven time and time again how little you know about any given SF
game.
> Also if you
> don't like the parries and U R Playing someone that is as STUPID as U R,
> don't do parries, Isn't that common sense. STUPID Dick Heads.]
Common sense? Your sentences don't even make sense. What are you trying to say
here?
> This is directed to FURBY, Onaje,Jinston,Ultima, and other Dickheads in this
> NG! Ok I understand that U don't like 2I. but if U don't like it don't blame
> it on the parry.
Why the hell not? Parrying is the REASON why many people don't like 2i, of
course that's what they're going to blame it on.
> >Parries Suck because you can parry and then do a Super.
>
> >Parries Suck because they are to easy to do.
>
> >Parries suck because I win using them.
>
> All this sounds stupid.
Yes, you're right... and it is stupid. 2i is a stupid game to have features like
that.
> I hate parries because
> I go to my arcade and I get my ass wooped by kids that can parry there ass
> off and they leave me with my mouth open on how many perfects they get on
> me.
I thought you said you liked parries... did you switch personalities on us
again? What happened?
> That is all I have to say. And don't give me stupid feed back becoz it is
> not needed I got all that off my chest and my mind will never change.
Because you're a stubborn fool who believes he's always right, no matter what
anyone says.
> I could care less and don't tell me to
> stop posting in this NG, coz I will not stop. So juz shut the fuck up and
> keep talking about A3 but as soon as U mention SF3, SF3:2I, or SF3:3rd
> Strike U better get ready to hear my mouth.
Thank goodness for the option to block out your messages.
JB wrote:
> Atsuko \"Nuku\" Natsume <nekomus...@yahoo.com wrote
>
> >Just because it's an SF doesn't make it a good game...
>
> As long as it says SF it is a good game.
Wrong again. Do you think SFA or Marvel vs SF were good games? They're crap.
> >out, and you're safe... else Sakura would be an unbalancing character as
> well (I tried
>
> >that sho-oken juggling trick, only works if opponent flips wrong, doesn't
> air block after
>
> >flipping or doesn't flip at all)... if you are silly enough to get caught
> in a juggle and not
>
> >know enough to mash 2 punches at once to skip out of it, then I guess you
> never
>
> >graduated from newbie school...
>
> Contradicting your self and then talking about Newbie school.Like I said
> earlier the more U flip out the longer the opponent can juggle U.
Um, there was no contradiction there at all. If you can't figure out how to flip
out from the juggle, you haven't graduated from newbie school. I suggest that
you might want to go back to school and learn how to read and understand
sentences properly. And as usual, you're wrong again... the more you flip out,
the LESS the opponent can juggle you. Sakura gets juggles all across the screen
if you don't flip out.. and if you do, she gets no juggles. You never know what
you're talking about, I wonder why you waste so much time on this newsgroup
since you don't even play the games much.
> >*sigh* I don't think you understand how much time and energy it takes to
> redraw
>
> >everyone... First off, most of the characters have new animation. Ryu's got
> an axe kick
>
> >and his old rushing punch back. Sakura's standing fierce from far away has
> been
>
> >changed to a standard punch. How exactly should the characters be redrawn?
> The
>
> >only reason anyone's been redrawn at all is to change from the 'pseudo-
> realistic' style
>
> >of ST to the SFA anime-esque style of art.
>
> Who cares how long it takes? I don't it would have taken umm lemme see.... 3
> or 4 more months.
JB: The new-to-Alpha characters WERE redrawn... and they also created Karin,
Mika, and Cody from the beginning.
> >By the way... I hated the art in SF3... everyone is so friggin' UGLY...
> Give me the SFA
>
> >style any day... ugh. I like the simple linework and use of bright
> colors... the painted
>
> >style with the thick brush strokes and blotchy color really turns me off
> (from SF3).
>
> your saying that A3 graphics are better than SF3? I guess it is not A3 on
> Crack i think your the one on crack. LMAO!!!
Do you ever READ what people are saying before you reply? You made a mistake
AGAIN. The person said that they prefer the Alpha-style artwork (sort of anime
style) to the SF3 artwork (it looks like they tried to go into extreme details,
but didn't have thin pens and used big magic markers instead... looks kinda
chunky). It's all a matter of preference. Of course, everyone realizes that SF3
has a higher rate of animation, and all of that. It is on CPS3, after all.
BOB13
<cuss mode>
JB wrote:
> -A quick question dick heads-
>
> Am I not correct when I say this.
>
> When you start a combo and you throw in a Super Combo-->
>
> does the super take all the damage?
>
> [U can still give me your answer]
>
> No. So why do U complain about Parrying into a Combo that includes a Super
> combo. I seen somebody doing a 30 something hit combo and it was'nt taking
> shit of energy.
So? I've seen a 30 something hit combo that dizzy me, took almost fifty percent
and left them with enough super to do it again. They did it off of the parry.
> So as for the end of this Parry so called flame.
>
> All you PPL are liars and this is what me and a bunch of 2I fans in my house
> at this very minute 10:25 pm came up with.
>
> U hate parries becoz they are to easy --> Yeah RIGHT!!!!
Explain to me how hard it is to tap forward or down stupid ass.
>
>
> [U can't do it and U get your asswooped daily in your arcade, Becoz all the
> NICE niggaz we know that play 2I use parries and they never bitch when they
> lose or win.]
Enter the ECC4 tournament and prove to us that we suck. Until you do that your
just a fucken scrub that knows jack shit about how a game should work. Come on.
If you and your 'niggaz' are so good why don't you show up and open up that can
of whoop ass and show us how scrubby we are.
>
>
> 2I sucks becoz of Parries --> Yeah RIGHT!!!!
2I sucks for several reasons. Horrible balance. Chains off a jab and short.
Parries. Infinites. Lots of stuff. If you actually paid attention dumb ass you
would have already known this.
>
>
> [Like I said earlier something that helps U win U will not knock it becoz it
> is to easy to do. I played X-Men Vs SF with Sabretooth and Wolverine and I
> used to do the same COMBO non-stop and I used to win where ever I went,
> Wether it was Broadway Arcade, Playland, Chinatown Fair, Games Express,
> Uptown Local arcades.
Oh please. People bash versus games EVEN more then they bash 2I. Even Onaje
doesn't really like the VS. games and he LIVES for combos.
> I used to win and laugh at my competition becoz they
> knew exactly what I was gonna do and they could not stop it. Also if you
> don't like the parries and U R Playing someone that is as STUPID as U R,
> don't do parries, Isn't that common sense. STUPID Dick Heads.]
Oh. We do, do that. Once in a while we'll play a game but then we remember why
we never liked the game in the first place and stop playing.
>
>
> This is directed to FURBY, Onaje,Jinston,Ultima, and other Dickheads in this
> NG! Ok I understand that U don't like 2I. but if U don't like it don't blame
> it on the parry.
Pay attention. It's not JUST parries. That just one of the reasons. Or are you
too stupid to read regular english?
> Juz come out in cold blood and say it. [FURBY,
> Onaje,Jinston,Ultima -->] I AM A SCRUB and I can't win so I need to make
> excuses why I should'nt like 2I.
We DO win. We win because we know what the bs in the game is and abuse it.
Didn't you know that there is a way to trick the computer that your in a parry
frame for like ninety percent of the time? Makes it hella easy to win.
> Excuses are for baby's. Baby's complain
> mami give me my bottle, pass me your nipple, I don't want to go to school,
> Baby's complain. As U get older complaining gets useless. so STOP it please
> I am begging. I don't think ya know what ya write but Look at how U idiots
> sound. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Notice something. You don't read what people are saying you dumb fuck. If you
actually read what people are saying you would know that people who replied to
you know what they are talking about. We wouldn't rip you if you said the game
is your favorite. No we rip you because you say parries are a GOOD thing.
>
>
> >Parries Suck because you can parry and then do a Super.
>
> >Parries Suck because they are to easy to do.
>
> >Parries suck because I win using them.
No. Parries suck because there is little risk for the amount of reward you
recieve for it. The risk reward ratio is unfair. That's why parries suck.
<Cut a bunch of shit about how Jae is going to chicken out of this.>
You're getting annoying. Yeah cuss the shit out of us and say how your not going
to listen to what we say. Oh yeah that's mature. What a little pussy. I'd bet
you'd punch a guy in the back of the head and run away with your dick between
your legs. Until you prove to us why parries are good you'll never have any
credibility here and people are just going to cut you down.
</cuss mode>
King Kung
today, so...
On a day of infammy, Sun, 28 Feb 1999 19:13:31 -0800, this sick li'll
monkey jae...@excite.com (JB) wrote in crayon:
>That is why I don't like giving the source of my info becoz
>ass-holes like this. "I think you're bullshitting." Quote of Jinstons post.
>As for who? what? where? when? how? I don't remember all the details I was
>over at a friends house and he showed it to me. quoting it.(Not the exact
>words but it will have to do for now) "That after a parry the game sort of
>pauses." As for the Universal overhead being changed I did not know about
>that. I also like the way 2I moves but I like the game alot.
>Also you PPL said that U can parry into a super combo. U can block into a
>super combo. Juz thought I would throw that in there.
1) I'm sure it's been said before, but maybe if I use JB-ism, you can
understand:
U R stupid
And I'm not going to back that up. >_<
2) I don't care if you are JB Gainz, JB, Iceblah, blah blah, <insert
lamer here>, your attitude and lack of any adultish type of control
makes me think you are either 9 or were dropped too many times as a
baby.
3) WHY?!?! Why the hell do you make yourself/selves look so retarded,
over and over and over?!?! It is both a waste of your time and my
time.
That is why if I see anything containing wordage such as U, R, or
WoRDz TIpeD L1k3 tHis, I will just pass it over. I don't care if it
has the most brilliant of observations, it is not worth the eye or
mental strain required. Chances are it would contain nothing but
stupidity anyway. Maybe I will just start weeding them out of my news
feeder altogether.
My advice: Go away. Learn. Come back. Contribute. Speak coherently.
There, I fed the 'trollz.' I feel better now. ^_^
--
"Without any intentional, fancy way of adjusting yourself,
to express yourself as you are is the most important thing
to do."
-Shunryu Suzuki Roshi
Simplicity makes things so much easier.
King Kung (king...@earthlink.net)
AIM: kingkung2
IRC: kingkung (usually EFNet)
ICQ: 19739094
http://home.earthlink.net/~step808/home.html
Onaje Everett
jae...@excite.com (JB) wrote:
(mega-snip)
This can be summed up in one sentence.
"A fool finds no pleasure in understanding but delights in airing his own
opinions." -Proverbs 18:2
Ladies and gentlemen, we have absolutely no obligation to this guy, anymore.
As it was just revealed to me this morning as I opened up my Bible and this
verse stared me dead in the face, this fits JB Gainz to a tee.
So, I will be the first to withdraw from the exercise in futility which is
trying to teach JB Gainz something that he can use. He likes spouting his
mouth off too much to want to learn anything. Let him wallow in his
ignorance. We've done what we can.
Peace, JB. It was fun for a while, but you're just like the Shoto-scrubs
that keep coming back for more: I'm bored of them...and I'm certainly bored
of you.
A.g.sf2, are ya wit' me? :)
Lantis
> -A quick question dick heads-
Ahhh...how lovely...
> Am I not correct when I say this.
> When you start a combo and you throw in a Super Combo-->
> does the super take all the damage?
> [U can still give me your answer]
> No. So why do U complain about Parrying into a Combo that includes a Super
> combo. I seen somebody doing a 30 something hit combo and it was'nt taking
> shit of energy. So as for the end of this Parry so called flame.
It's not about the DAMAGE, pissboy. It's about how OFTEN you can do it.
Yeah, I can parry your attack and combo-into-super and probably don't do
whack of damage, but I can do it AGAIN and AGAIN, ad infinitum, until
you're goddamn dead. Can't you just stick up your ears? Or up your ass (as
I assume your brain is down there)? So, do what you do, you're DEAD! It's
the goddamn EFFECTIVITY of the parries, not necesarily the damage of the
combo afterwards...
> All you PPL are liars and this is what me and a bunch of 2I fans in my house
> at this very minute 10:25 pm came up with.
Hmmm? You are and your multiple alter-egos? You and your so-called
"friends" are just putting one big stain on this newsgroup. All are
idiots.
> U hate parries becoz they are to easy --> Yeah RIGHT!!!!
What, pressing towards is NOT easy?
> [U can't do it and U get your asswooped daily in your arcade, Becoz all the
> NICE niggaz we know that play 2I use parries and they never bitch when they
> lose or win.]
Somebody who uses parries and dies, does not know how to use their
parries well.
> 2I sucks becoz of Parries --> Yeah RIGHT!!!!
Not just the PARRIES by itself, but all the options the parries offer
afterwards.
> [Like I said earlier something that helps U win U will not knock it becoz it
> is to easy to do. I played X-Men Vs SF with Sabretooth and Wolverine and I
> used to do the same COMBO non-stop and I used to win where ever I went,
> Wether it was Broadway Arcade, Playland, Chinatown Fair, Games Express,
> Uptown Local arcades. I used to win and laugh at my competition becoz they
> knew exactly what I was gonna do and they could not stop it.
How pitiful. Are your competition 6-year old kids? Or maybe grown-ups
with 6-year old minds? Or maybe you're just delusional? People who fall
into the same thing over and over again are just plain fools. They MUST
know what they're getting into when they plink their quarter in the
machine. Is all your competition so simple minded?
> Also if you
> don't like the parries and U R Playing someone that is as STUPID as U R,
> don't do parries, Isn't that common sense. STUPID Dick Heads.]
Heh heh, I wish it was as easy as that. Tell everybody not to use
parries. You stupid prick. It's THERE, it's in the GAME, Goddammit. You
can't deny it's existence, nor it's terrible effectivity. Who's playing
dickhead now?
> This is directed to FURBY, Onaje,Jinston,Ultima, and other Dickheads in this
> NG! Ok I understand that U don't like 2I. but if U don't like it don't blame
> it on the parry. Juz come out in cold blood and say it. [FURBY,
> Onaje,Jinston,Ultima -->]
We don't like parries, or at least, the terrible effectivity of it.
> I AM A SCRUB
We knew that already...
> and I can't win so I need to make excuses why I should'nt like 2I.
We have fact-based excuses, twit.
> Excuses are for baby's. Baby's complain
> mami give me my bottle, pass me your nipple, I don't want to go to school,
> Baby's complain. As U get older complaining gets useless. so STOP it please
> I am begging. I don't think ya know what ya write but Look at how U idiots
> sound.
Geez, so we have been playing a game for babies for so long. Oh my...
> All this sounds stupid. Go get a better excuse like. I hate parries because
> I go to my arcade and I get my ass wooped by kids that can parry there ass
> off and they leave me with my mouth open on how many perfects they get on
> me. As U run out of the Arcade screaming DAMN PARRIES SUCK. In A2 you would
> run out of the Arcades screaming DAMN ALPHA COUNTERS SUCK. In Super Turbo
> running out WHY THE FUCK did they put in Super Moves. What is gonna be the
> excuse in SF4. And if SF is getting so pitiful juz stop playing them and
> start playing Mortal Kombat with the other idiots.
Nah, we're not gonna sit down and ignore the facts like YOU do. You and
your simple mind just can't perceive all the options. You're competiton
SUCKS, and so do you. If they can't parry and win, then they are IDIOTS.
And people that think parries are not so useful, are IDIOTS as well. YOU
must be the one playing Mortal Kombat, due to your damn dumb knowledge of
SF. Wait. Scratch that. Go back and play Pong. That way you can start from
scratch. Asshole.
> That is all I have to say. And don't give me stupid feed back becoz it is
> not needed I got all that off my chest and my mind will never change. Yeah I
> am stubborn whatever U want to say. I could care less and don't tell me to
> stop posting in this NG, coz I will not stop. So juz shut the fuck up and
> keep talking about A3 but as soon as U mention SF3, SF3:2I, or SF3:3rd
> Strike U better get ready to hear my mouth.
Of course. Monkeys never listen. Go back to you cage, ape!
***************************************
* Kailu Lantis *
* The Knight whom protects Justice *
* *
* March 1999 coolest stuff: *
* Dan Hibiki, Moriya, Ryoga Hibiki *
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Lantis
> "A fool finds no pleasure in understanding but delights in airing his own
> opinions." -Proverbs 18:2
>
> Ladies and gentlemen, we have absolutely no obligation to this guy, anymore.
> As it was just revealed to me this morning as I opened up my Bible and this
> verse stared me dead in the face, this fits JB Gainz to a tee.
Damn, Onaje, where do ya find these phrases? I think my Bible is the
"edited" version...:/
> So, I will be the first to withdraw from the exercise in futility which is
> trying to teach JB Gainz something that he can use. He likes spouting his
> mouth off too much to want to learn anything. Let him wallow in his
> ignorance. We've done what we can.
>
> Peace, JB. It was fun for a while, but you're just like the Shoto-scrubs
> that keep coming back for more: I'm bored of them...and I'm certainly bored
> of you.
>
> A.g.sf2, are ya wit' me? :)
Sure I am. Honestly, there are people like this, not only in the SF
universe (and video game universe, for that matter), but in real life as
well. Sometimes they get so stubborn, and have lived their whole life
under one idea/statement, that when somebody proves them otherwise, they
deny it with all they can possibly think of, even though it doesn't mean
the use of facts. JB Gainz has played a very beginner-level SF 3, and it
is obvious that he doesn't realize the full potential of parries. And, to
some level, maybe it's not his fault. He has poor competition, and does
not go to tournaments. I was like that, at first. I did not realize when
everybody said parries ruined SF 3 until I went back to the game, began to
become good at parrying, and then hitting after a parry, then comboing
after parry, then combo-into-super after parry, and so on. At least, I
went out and proved this statement personally. JB Gainz, obviously, never
will since he does not want any stain on his holy SF 3. Then so be it. Let
him live in his ignorance, for as much as we care. We'll see what he
thinks after he finds a good SF 3 player, which parries everything he
throws at him and then gives him a good 60% combo in return. As for now,
we can not do nothing. Time will prove him wrong, eventually...
JB
say here?
>Because you're a stubborn fool who believes he's always >right, no matter
what anyone says
>hy the hell not? Parrying is the REASON why many people >on't like 2i, of
course that's what they're going to blame >t on.
Blame it on the fact that U can't win.
Ok I understand what she meant about the art work. I understand now. Becoz
there is someone that actually likes the Alpha graphics over SF3.
WhoaMoses
Onaje Everett
Lantis <al76...@campus.ira.itesm.mx> wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Onaje Everett wrote:
>
> > "A fool finds no pleasure in understanding but delights in airing his own
> > opinions." -Proverbs 18:2
> >
> > Ladies and gentlemen, we have absolutely no obligation to this guy, anymore.
> > As it was just revealed to me this morning as I opened up my Bible and this
> > verse stared me dead in the face, this fits JB Gainz to a tee.
>
> Damn, Onaje, where do ya find these phrases? I think my Bible is the
> "edited" version...:/
Like I said...I opened it...and there it was. I've read through Proverbs
before (four times, I think, since it's so simple to understand), but I didn't
remember that particular verse. I'm going to, now. :)
> > So, I will be the first to withdraw from the exercise in futility which is
> > trying to teach JB Gainz something that he can use. He likes spouting his
> > mouth off too much to want to learn anything. Let him wallow in his
> > ignorance. We've done what we can.
> >
> > Peace, JB. It was fun for a while, but you're just like the Shoto-scrubs
> > that keep coming back for more: I'm bored of them...and I'm certainly bored
> > of you.
> >
> > A.g.sf2, are ya wit' me? :)
>
> Sure I am. Honestly, there are people like this, not only in the SF
> universe (and video game universe, for that matter), but in real life as
> well. Sometimes they get so stubborn, and have lived their whole life
> under one idea/statement, that when somebody proves them otherwise, they
> deny it with all they can possibly think of, even though it doesn't mean
> the use of facts.
Heh...you're telling ME, this? :) You're so right, though.
> JB Gainz, obviously, never will (go to a tournament) since he does not want
> any stain on his holy SF 3. Then so be it. Let him live in his ignorance, for
> as much as we care. We'll see what he thinks after he finds a good SF 3
> player, which parries everything he throws at him and then gives him a good
> 60% combo in return. As for now, we can not do nothing. Time will prove him
> wrong, eventually...
Exactly. No matter how much you beat someone over the head with the truth,
only they can accept or deny it. Of course, a wise person is humble and
accepts the truth when it's revealed to him or her.
Ah well. That's enough of that.
Onaje Everett
fallacies of thinking. I am in no way replying to this miscreant.
In article <yzXC2.632$H4.6514771@WReNphoon1>,
jae...@excite.com (JB) wrote:
> >Common sense? Your sentences don't even make sense. What are you trying to
> say here?
>
> They make sense!
Fallacy of circular logic. A thing is true because *I* say it's true and
don't need proof to back it up.
> >Because you're a stubborn fool who believes he's always >right, no matter
> what anyone says
>
> I don't always think I am right.
Same as above. Could also be read as 'denial'.
> >hy the hell not? Parrying is the REASON why many people >on't like 2i, of
> course that's what they're going to blame >t on.
>
> Blame it on the fact that U can't win.
Fallacy of Personal Attack. If I can't present any facts that contradict the
previous argument brought to me, I'll simply attack them personally and insult
their character/ability/reputation/etc.
This ends your Contemporary Social Problems class for today. In the future,
try not to exercise futility, but instead, exercise wisdom....like I'm about
to do by not responding to any attacks against me or any future references to
me by the author of the previous post that I just went through.
Bye bye.
Ultima
[snip]
> Am I not correct when I say this. When you start a combo and you throw in a Super Combo--> does the super take all the damage?
Yes.
> No. So why do U complain about Parrying into a Combo that includes a Super combo.
You are showing a superhuman level of ignorance and inability to read.
We've answered this already. BUt for the stupid (read: you), we'll
answer again: Parries give you an easy opportunity to land a combo. Too
easy. ALL YOUR OPPONENT HAS TO DO IS ATTACK. You don't see the problem
with this? You attack, you die. Get it shit-snake?
> I seen somebody doing a 30 something hit combo and it was'nt taking shit of energy. So as for the end of this Parry so called flame.
And I've seen a 30 hit combo that did almost 50% damage, left me dizzy,
and left the opponent (Ibuki) with enough super energy to almost repeat
it. What's your point? The fact is, parrying is a braindead easy way for
someone to get free damage. You don't even have to think. You just need
reflexes. Whup de fucking do.
> All you PPL are liars and this is what me and a bunch of 2I fans in my house at this very minute 10:25 pm came up with.
Great: A house full of idiots. Anyond got any propane and a
flamethrower?
> U hate parries becoz they are to easy --> Yeah RIGHT!!!!
I won't dignify this with a response.
> [U can't do it and U get your asswooped daily in your arcade, Becoz all the NICE niggaz we know that play 2I use parries and they never bitch when they lose or win.]
And all you NICE ignorant, low-expectancy, IQ-of-a-fucking-gnat,
punk-ass motherfucking niggaz can all burn in your ignorant hell and GET
OFF THIS FUCKING NEWSGROUP.
> 2I sucks becoz of Parries --> Yeah RIGHT!!!!
Right.
> [Like I said earlier something that helps U win U will not knock it becoz it is to easy to do.
Why not?
> I played X-Men Vs SF with Sabretooth and Wolverine and I used to do the same COMBO non-stop and I used to win where ever I went,
> Wether it was Broadway Arcade, Playland, Chinatown Fair, Games Express, Uptown Local arcades. I used to win and laugh at my competition becoz they knew exactly what I was gonna do and they could not stop it.
And this is a good thing? Also, I wouldn't think too highly of your
competition (Broadway was a scrub-haven anyway; don't know about the
others).
> Also if you don't like the parries and U R Playing someone that is as STUPID as U R, don't do parries, Isn't that common sense. STUPID Dick Heads.]
When you have to lower yourself to enjoy a game, the game is whack,
PUNK.
> This is directed to FURBY, Onaje,Jinston,Ultima, and other Dickheads in this NG! Ok I understand that U don't like 2I.
Actually, I don't mind 2I. That doesn't mean I don't see things that are
very wrong with it. Get over it.
> but if U don't like it don't blame it on the parry.
But if that's the very thing we see wrong, WHY can't we blame it on the
parry? We didn't like A2 because of CCs and ACs. By your logic, we
shouldn't blame it on the CCs and Acs. Get fucking real.
> I AM A SCRUB
Thank you.
[remaining crap deleted]
Ultima
[snip]
> A.g.sf2, are ya wit' me? :)
I is wit' you (that's not a mistyping). Even after all this time, I
think that guy is doing this on purpose - in my mind, NO ONE could be
that stupid and ignorant. Of course, I could be wrong. :p
Ultima
> >Common sense? Your sentences don't even make sense. What are you trying to say here?
>
With the help of the universal translator.
> >Because you're a stubborn fool who believes he's always right, no matter what anyone says
> I don't always think I am right.
"But I'll say whatever crap comes to my mind anyway".
> >hy the hell not? Parrying is the REASON why many people >on't like 2i, of course that's what they're going to blame >t on.
> Blame it on the fact that U can't win.
Blame it on the fact that you (not U) can't read.
> Ok I understand what she meant about the art work. I understand now.
A dim bulb brightens.
Tat
> On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, JB wrote:
<ZONK troll rant>
> Nah, we're not gonna sit down and ignore the facts like YOU do. You and
> your simple mind just can't perceive all the options. You're competiton
> SUCKS, and so do you. If they can't parry and win, then they are IDIOTS.
> And people that think parries are not so useful, are IDIOTS as well. YOU
> must be the one playing Mortal Kombat, due to your damn dumb knowledge of
> SF. Wait. Scratch that. Go back and play Pong. That way you can start from
> scratch. Asshole.
Leave PONG out of this damnit!! :D
I present to you, today's Top Ten List:
WAYS TO DEAL WITH TROLLS
10)Ignore them
9)Ignore them
8)Ignore them
7)Ignore them
6)Ignore them
5)Ignore them
4)Ignore them
3)Ignore them
2)Ignore them
1)Ignore them
Paul: Dave? Dave? Can we do 15 more of Ways To Deal With Trolls?
Letterman: Sure! What the hell, a.g.sf2 don't seem to get it, so why not?
Let's do 100 till they get the message.
-Tat (visit my Alpha 3 Cody shrine)
Cody Convicted @ http://web.singnet.com.sg/~cktat/
kayin/ka khiong kwok
Lantis wrote in message ...
>On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Onaje Everett wrote:
>
>> "A fool finds no pleasure in understanding but delights in airing his own
>> opinions." -Proverbs 18:2
<snip>
> Damn, Onaje, where do ya find these phrases? I think my Bible is the
>"edited" version...:/
Page 657 of the Good News Bible. Another version of the above is "A fool
does not care whether he understands a thing or not; all he wants to do is
show how smart he is". No offence to anyone, but since we're getting all
religious here, I slapped this one in for good measure. "When some fool
starts an argument, he is asking for a beating" and "No one is respected
unless he is humble; arrogant people are on the way to ruin". Proverb 18:6
and 18:12 respectively. :')
JB Gainz
don't believe you will... because I did not say it! What is your problem... I
can't believe you fell for Asuko's bullshit... the guy just made some dumb
claim. I suppose anyone who apposes your views must be the same person? Is
this your reasoning? This "dickhead" quote is nothing I would ever post.... so
refrain from calling me an idiot when you don't have the facts... you are
really pissing me off. But I suppose you don't care, because of my opposition
to the OJ guy. Why are you such a supporter of him? Hmmmm.. I won't make
speculations, but it does seem strange. And why do you think I am all these
people... who Asuko also claimed to me.... hmmmmm, even stranger.
chocobo misquote:
>JB wrote [ actually Lazy Jay wrote this, but I was misquoted]:
Chocobo
> Chocobo.. do you have the original quote with me saying this statememt? I
> don't believe you will... because I did not say it!
Yes, I do have the original quote. It's still there in the newsgroup, but I'll get
a dejanews link for you since you don't seem to believe me.
http://x13.dejanews.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=450225764&CONTEXT=920448212.1472790639&hitnum=1
> What is your problem... I
> can't believe you fell for Asuko's bullshit... the guy just made some dumb
> claim. I suppose anyone who apposes your views must be the same person?
I didn't "believe" anything... I saw a bunch of posts with different names, all
with the same views, same spelling errors, same attitude, same ideas, most claiming
to know each other.
> This "dickhead" quote is nothing I would ever post.... so
> refrain from calling me an idiot when you don't have the facts... you are
> really pissing me off. But I suppose you don't care, because of my opposition
> to the OJ guy. Why are you such a supporter of him? Hmmmm.. I won't make
> speculations, but it does seem strange. And why do you think I am all these
> people... who Asuko also claimed to me.... hmmmmm, even stranger.
You say that the below is a misquote, but you don't mention any of the rest of the
post? All of them were posted by a "JB", who claims to not know you at all. So
then, how come you think any of my post is referring to you at all? I only
mentioned "JB" and only used his quotes... it's obvious that you're all the same
person, now. Trying to deny it like this only makes it clearer.
>
> chocobo misquote:
>
> >JB wrote [ actually Lazy Jay wrote this, but I was misquoted]:
> >
JB Gainz
bother you, just had ask. It seems this Asuko fellow and his claims has gotten
both of us into a mix of bull.
Personally I believe Asuko, Chocobo, Ultima and a guy who keeps e-mailing
me(but never posts on the news group) are related in some way.
I recommend you ignore anything Asuko says because his misquotes me on purpose
just to piss me off... I last post with my name was a complete lie he made up
himself.
JB GAINZ
JB GAINZ