REQ: Help please - Quake 3 crashes on loading
Thomas
Am trying to install Quake 3.
Have a P4(1.5Gb)/256Mb/Matrox G200 (8Mb)/40Gb HDD running Win 98SE.
Tried to do a minimal install and everything seems fine until you try to
load Quake 3 and I get a white screen and a mouse arrow. Nothing else and
the PC is locked up.
Tried to do a full install. PC Locks up!!
Re-loaded DirectX (8.1) - DXDiag shows "no problem". PC Locks up!!
Used GLSet-up to re-install Matrox drivers. PC Locks up!!
(Have read somewhere that the G200 cannot be use din high res - but cannot
find a command-line switch to run Q3 at lower res).
Have tried all manner of desktop settings - running in 16bit, 24bit, 32bit,
800*600, 1024*768, 1152*864 - every combination and still the PC locks and
crashes with this white screen
Strange thing is - the same PC used to run the Quake 3 demo no problem...!
Anyone offer a clue as to how to sort this out.(Have tried searching "google
groups" and visited many Quake 3 websites, but none have shown a solution to
this problem.
Any help appreciated.
(Posted to a.g.q3, r.g.c.q.m, u.g.c.q3)
Ph@ Boy
disabling them before installation and execution. Just a thought because
I experienced similar problems long ago.
Malc
logging in to my ADSL account. Perhaps Quake knows that there is a
network connection on the PC and is trying to get a response from it?
"Thomas" <nospa...@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Am trying to install Quake 3.
>
> Have a P4(1.5Gb)/256Mb/Matrox G200 (8Mb)/40Gb HDD running Win 98SE.
>
> Tried to do a minimal install and everything seems fine until you try
to
> load Quake 3 and I get a white screen and a mouse arrow. Nothing else
and
> the PC is locked up.
snip
Chicken
<malScolm...@hotmail.com> :
If you have punk buster enabled Q3 will try to communicate with the PB
master servers and it will appear to you that your system is frozen.
If you let it sit long enough it will eventually start to respond
again.
Thomas
"Ph@ Boy" <now...@someplace.tv> wrote in message
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> If you have any anti virus programs running you might want to try
> disabling them before installation and execution. Just a thought because
> I experienced similar problems long ago.
>
Thanks for the info.
Tried disabling AV program but to no avail.
Don't even get to the first menu screen.
Am sure it's down to the PC and not the game....!
Thomas
Thomas
"Malc" <malScolm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I get this problem as well, but only if I try to load Quake 3 without
> logging in to my ADSL account. Perhaps Quake knows that there is a
> network connection on the PC and is trying to get a response from it?
>
>
Hi Malc
Thanks for the info.
Trouble is - I've got an always on cable connection (thru Blueyonder).
So, the game should know about the network...!
Maybe I'll try without the network connection ???
Thomas
RenVink
Yur Vid card must support OpenGL
Does it?
Thomas
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> Does it?
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will not support the highest resolutions, etc, but if I cannot get to the
opening menu screen, how on earth am I supposed to change the video
settings...??
And it ran the demo version of Quake 3 for a while until I could get a full
version....! (Which I've only just tried to install, due to having too many
other things I needed to do...!)
Thomas
RenVink
IC.. well I think it support's OpenGL just fine... not the latest card... but at lest you should be able to see the menu..
Well, for a start:
Check these settings in you 'quake3folder'/Baseq3/q3config.cfg file:
seta r_allowExtensions "1"
seta r_glDriver "opengl32"
Are they set like this?
RenVink
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> > > >
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> > > Yur Vid card must support OpenGL
> > > Does it?
> > >
> > >
> > As far as I know it does - it's a Matrox G200 (8Mb). (I am aware that this
> > will not support the highest resolutions, etc, but if I cannot get to the
> > opening menu screen, how on earth am I supposed to change the video
> > settings...??
> >
> > And it ran the demo version of Quake 3 for a while until I could get a full
> > version....! (Which I've only just tried to install, due to having too many
> > other things I needed to do...!)
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> >
>
IC.. well I think it supports OpenGL just fine... it's not the latest card... but at least you should be able to see the menu..
Well, for a start:
Check these settings in your 'quake3folder'/Baseq3/q3config.cfg file:
seta r_allowExtensions "1"
seta r_glDriver "opengl32"
Are they set like this?
No more free typos! :)
=^)
Thomas
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but at lest you should be able to see the menu..
>
> Well, for a start:
> Check these settings in you 'quake3folder'/Baseq3/q3config.cfg file:
>
> seta r_allowExtensions "1"
> seta r_glDriver "opengl32"
>
>
> Are they set like this?
>
>
Hi RenVink,
Thanks for your help with this.
My q3config.cfg file is as follows:
(Note the two lines you suggested might be there are *missing*...!)
// generated by quake, do not modify
unbindall
bind TAB "+scores"
bind ENTER "+button2"
bind ESCAPE "togglemenu"
bind SPACE "+moveup"
bind + "sizeup"
bind - "sizedown"
bind / "weapnext"
bind 0 "weapon 10"
bind 1 "weapon 1"
bind 2 "weapon 2"
bind 3 "weapon 3"
bind 4 "weapon 4"
bind 5 "weapon 5"
bind 6 "weapon 6"
bind 7 "weapon 7"
bind 8 "weapon 8"
bind 9 "weapon 9"
bind = "sizeup"
bind [ "weapprev"
bind \ "+mlook"
bind ] "weapnext"
bind _ "sizedown"
bind ` "toggleconsole"
bind a "+moveleft"
bind c "+movedown"
bind d "+moveright"
bind s "+back"
bind t "messagemode"
bind w "+forward"
bind ~ "toggleconsole"
bind PAUSE "pause"
bind UPARROW "+forward"
bind DOWNARROW "+back"
bind LEFTARROW "+left"
bind RIGHTARROW "+right"
bind ALT "+strafe"
bind CTRL "+attack"
bind SHIFT "+speed"
bind DEL "+lookdown"
bind PGDN "+lookup"
bind END "centerview"
bind F1 "vote yes"
bind F2 "vote no"
bind F3 "ui_teamorders"
bind F11 "screenshot"
bind MOUSE1 "+attack"
bind MOUSE2 "+strafe"
bind MOUSE3 "+zoom"
bind MWHEELDOWN "weapnext"
bind MWHEELUP "weapprev"
seta net_socksPassword ""
seta net_socksUsername ""
seta net_socksPort "1080"
seta net_socksServer ""
seta net_socksEnabled "0"
seta net_noipx "0"
seta net_noudp "0"
seta cg_viewsize "100"
seta cg_predictItems "1"
seta sex "male"
seta handicap "100"
seta color "4"
seta model "sarge"
seta snaps "20"
seta rate "3000"
seta name "UnnamedPlayer"
seta cl_maxPing "800"
seta m_filter "0"
seta m_side "0.25"
seta m_forward "0.25"
seta m_yaw "0.022"
seta m_pitch "0.022"
seta cg_autoswitch "1"
seta cl_mouseAccel "0"
seta sensitivity "5"
seta cl_run "1"
seta cl_packetdup "1"
seta cl_maxpackets "30"
seta cl_pitchspeed "140"
seta cl_yawspeed "140"
seta cl_cdkey "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" - I've edited this out (for obvious
reasons)
seta sv_master5 ""
seta sv_master4 ""
seta sv_master3 ""
seta sv_master2 ""
seta sv_floodProtect "1"
seta sv_maxRate "0"
seta sv_hostname "noname"
seta vm_ui "0"
seta vm_game "0"
seta vm_cgame "0"
seta joy_threshold "0.15"
seta in_joyBallScale "0.02"
seta in_joystick "0"
seta in_mouse "1"
seta in_mididevice "0"
seta in_midichannel "1"
seta in_midiport "1"
seta in_midi "0"
seta com_introplayed "1"
seta com_blood "1"
seta com_maxfps "85"
seta com_hunkMegs "56"
regards,
Thomas
Ginchy
and I have the exact same problem......I installed a LAN in my home and
installed Q3 on my older p3 450 no problem and when I run it on the P4 it
crashes with a white screen!
Is it something to do with the p4 or dx 8.1 ???
Same machine running Unreal 2 !!!!
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RenVink
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Not there? That's really weird!?! Did you try adding them?
Did this change anything?
Apart from this.. well, can't find anything unusual in there...
And otherwise, well maybe you could try to re-install the latest point-release.
RenVink
# Not there? That's really weird!?! Did you try adding them?
#Did this change anything?
#
#Apart from this.. well, can't find anything unusual in there...
#And otherwise, well maybe you could try to re-install the latest point-release.
#
Thomas, as i just recall:
- On my previous vid-card i had to install OpenGL apart from my video-driver to run Q3..
If you insert your Q3 cd... on the first menu (where you can select 'Install').. on the left bottom there is a tiny link that say's
GLSetup..
If nothing works... give it a try...
Thomas
"RenVink" <Ren...@mailnet.wxw> wrote in message
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> >
>
> Not there? That's really weird!?! Did you try adding them?
> Did this change anything?
>
>
>
> Apart from this.. well, can't find anything unusual in there...
>
> And otherwise, well maybe you could try to re-install the latest
point-release.
>
Tried adding them as well as doing another full install, followed by the
point release.
I now get a brown-ie coloured brick-wall type picture, but with no
text/menu/anything. And the PC is still locked up.
Seems, I'm getting there, (somewhere?) but why should this be happening..!!
Thomas
Thomas
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> - On my previous vid-card i had to install OpenGL apart from my
video-driver to run Q3..
> If you insert your Q3 cd... on the first menu (where you can select
'Install').. on the left bottom there is a tiny link that say's
> GLSetup..
>
> If nothing works... give it a try...
>
I did that. It didn't seem to work any better...!
As well as trying the drivers from the www.glsetup.com website.
All this did was to re-install an older set of Windows Matrox drivers...!!
Thomas
RenVink
Ah yes..
What you're describing is the demo, when you start the original game for the first time.
Now it freezes at this point?
Another wild guess:
- Are you running a version of Zonalarm? [or similar Firewall]
If so, this program could halt Quake from further execution while it's immediately asking for internet access / server rights.
When it does, a popup box should come up asking for your confirmation. But I heard several cases that the popup actually appears
'behind' the game... i.e. on your desktop.
In this case, your system looks frozen. Quake won't run any further, looks like it hangs.
Did you add Quake3.exe to your firewall? Try to give it those rights and check again...
Maybe we could play a game when it's fixed! ;-)
Thomas
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> What you're describing is the demo, when you start the original game for
the first time.
> Now it freezes at this point?
>
> Another wild guess:
> - Are you running a version of Zonalarm? [or similar Firewall]
> If so, this program could halt Quake from further execution while it's
immediately asking for internet access / server rights.
> When it does, a popup box should come up asking for your confirmation. But
I heard several cases that the popup actually appears
> 'behind' the game... i.e. on your desktop.
>
> In this case, your system looks frozen. Quake won't run any further, looks
like it hangs.
> Did you add Quake3.exe to your firewall? Try to give it those rights and
check again...
>
> Maybe we could play a game when it's fixed! ;-)
>
Hi again, from the one with the Quake 3 "trouble"
Had already thought of that, so before I did anything (when trying your
suggestions), I moved anything in the StartUp folder to somewhere else, then
re-booted, then did the three finger salute and stopped anything
un-necessary running as well.
So, I was left with only Windows running and trying to get Quake going.
Which still didn't/doesn't run...!
I think I'll:
a) de-install all Quake bits
b) re-install the demo Quake 3, and see if I can get that going.
c) de-install Quake 3 demo
d) then do a full Q3A installation again (in a different directory of
course.)
Who knows.... if the obvious doesn't work, try the "whole nine yards"
approach.
Thks for your help.
Riclew
before the opening movie, but usually its ok.
AMD1GHZ, 128MB RAM
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Yeah.. to bad. Well, good luck. ;)
Tim Draper
tried updating ALL drivers (GFX, SFX, mobo drivers etc)
mine crashed on the ID logo - sound card driver's needed updating.
also, any IRQ confilicts in system properties?
tim
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Thomas
"RenVink" <Ren...@mailnet.wxw> wrote in message
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> >
> > I think I'll:
> > a) de-install all Quake bits
> > b) re-install the demo Quake 3, and see if I can get that going.
> > c) de-install Quake 3 demo
> > d) then do a full Q3A installation again (in a different directory of
> > course.)
> >
> > Who knows.... if the obvious doesn't work, try the "whole nine yards"
> > approach.
> >
> > Thks for your help.
> >
> >
>
> Yeah.. to bad. Well, good luck. ;)
>
Just for info - tried all the above and still nothing - Q3A now gets to the
"brick wall" screen (before it was just a white screen + mouse pointer) and
nothing happens the PC is locked up.
Have tried other DirectX games and these work fine (Crimson Skies/European
Air War etc). So, think the problem might be in the Q3A software rather than
my hardware. Last ditch attempt is to try it on a friends PC and see if it
installs on that. At elast I'll know the CDROM is OK.
Thomas
Forplay2k
or not. Your have a card that goes back to the P2 time. It time to upgrade,
also have you installed the lastest q3pointrelease_132.exe.
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Andy
using the default game browser makes no odds with the graphics problems, the
original poster could get a geforce 4 128 meg AGP for has little has Ł35 uk
and then get around 216 to 358 FPS depending on settings and demo played oh
and of course patch version.
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richard stclair
clan server .note laggy due to slow cpu and 192ram
i have gotton the lockup but only when trying to load a mod such as ut or
generations since they dont work on 1.16 only 1.32
now as far as the card i dont have a lot to say about matrox
.least nothing good
do u have multiple installes of full ver?
if so u must us add remove programs
look for the q3pointrelease
Kenny
- Might be a long shot, but remove all other CDs from your CD drives.
- Delete the q3config.cfg file (and temporarily rename your
autoexec.cfg, if you have one). Let the game generate a new q3config.
- Get the latest version of punkbuster. If that doesn't help,
temporarily set both sv_punkbuster and cl_punkbuster to 0 in your
config, and try again.