Which is better Geforce 256 or voodoo5/ 5500/6000
G Major
I hear geforce 256 this and geforce 256 that all over the net, I hear it can
do 10 + million polygons a sec. and that you can download a glide wrapper?
Since it has this special GPU will it be better than say a voodoo 5 with 64
or 128 mb of ram?
Figment
be.
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>
> I hear geforce 256 this and geforce 256 that all over the net, I hear it
can
> do 10 + million polygons a sec. and that you can download a glide wrapper?
> Since it has this special GPU will it be better than say a voodoo 5 with
64
> or 128 mb of ram?
>
I think the V5 6000 is going to be better
but then again im a 3dfx advocate
so by the time v5 6000 is released there will probably be somethig better
out
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RoboRay[AGQx]
GeForce today (or even weeks ago, for that matter). By the time V5 reaches
the market, we will probably be looking forward to the imminent arrival of
GeForce2. I expect that GF2 will be the hands-down winner.
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when the V2 came out... I was pretty regular in the 3dfx.products.voodoo2
newsgroup. But it seems 3dfx may have missed the boat this time.
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pLnCrZy
Every product they release that is supposed to take the market by storm,
actually quite sucks. Look at Voodoo2... nothing spectacular. Then Voodoo3
was supposed to rock.. and it sucked also.
I'm a devout nVidia man now.
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Mahmood
one right now. When the V5 comes out, there will be a GEForce 2 probably be
very close to shipping anyhow. 3dFx seems to be hellbent on being one step
behind the curve..
Mahmood
pLnCrZy <pLn...@hotmail-nospam.com> wrote
>. Look at Voodoo2... nothing spectacular.
decent chipsets with an API that was easier to program for and optimized for
their cards..
> I'm a devout nVidia man now.
It's the brand name loyalty that gets to me. If Nvidia has a better
product, I'll buy it..but if 3dFx brings out (I mean, it's on shelves, not
announced) something that mops the floor with the competition, they'll
probably get my money instead. That being said, it's not gonna happen
within a year, so I'm not worrying about it. I'm buying my GEForce in a
little over a week.
Astro
but it is definitely a well balanced card for those of us who
do other things with our computer than just play games.
pLnCrZy wrote:
> 3DFx is about 6 months behind the curve in the race these days.
>
> Every product they release that is supposed to take the market by storm,
> actually quite sucks. Look at Voodoo2... nothing spectacular. Then Voodoo3
> was supposed to rock.. and it sucked also.
>
> I'm a devout nVidia man now.
>
> "Frank_Rizzo" <tu...@boy.com> wrote in message
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> > I hate to say it, but it's true... You know I was a big 3dfx supporter
> back
> > when the V2 came out... I was pretty regular in the 3dfx.products.voodoo2
> > newsgroup. But it seems 3dfx may have missed the boat this time.
> >
> >
> >
> > "RoboRay[AGQx]" <ab...@dvdepot.net> wrote in message
> > news:s55pch...@corp.supernews.com...
> > > It looks like a toss-up now, but Voodoo5 is months away while you can
> buy
> > a
> > > GeForce today (or even weeks ago, for that matter). By the time V5
> > reaches
> > > the market, we will probably be looking forward to the imminent arrival
> of
> > > GeForce2. I expect that GF2 will be the hands-down winner.
> > >
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RoboRay[AGQx]
ever. (My C300A/BH6 combo) would be the best.) I don't know if 3Dfx just
let their success go to their heads or if nVidia actually became the
market-leader on their own merits, but my next video card will say GeForce
on it.
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product, to be sure, but still a great one.
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NOYB
<pLn...@hotmail-nospam.com> wrote:
>3DFx is about 6 months behind the curve in the race these days.
The beginning of the end started when they opted to stick with the
Voodoo architecture in the Voodoo3. And continuing the trend with the
V4/V5 is just insanity. No one in their right mind would choose a
Voodoo product over a GeForce. (If money wasn't a factor)
>Every product they release that is supposed to take the market by storm,
>actually quite sucks. Look at Voodoo2... nothing spectacular. Then Voodoo3
>was supposed to rock.. and it sucked also.
The Voodoo2 was the best 3d card for its time. Hands down. The
Voodoo3 wasn't a bad one. Still is pretty good. The problem is,
while 3dfx was sitting there, relying on name recognition. Nvidia,
was busily improving their line of cards.
>I'm a devout nVidia man now.
I'm very fickle. If Sears Roebuck, decided to make a 3d card, that
outperformed everything on the market. I'd have a, Craftsman video
card.
RoboRay[AGQx]
http://www.craftsman.com/jsp-scripts/craftsman/hot_products/hot_products_7.j
sp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1119257983.0944971351@@@@&BV_EngineID=dhalggkkdgeibgfcmg
cfecflj.0 ) AWAY from me!
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<snip>
Kisersose
"Mahmood" <warrior...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> The GEForce is better because it actually exists. You can run out and buy
> one right now. When the V5 comes out, there will be a GEForce 2 probably
be
> very close to shipping anyhow. 3dFx seems to be hellbent on being one
step
> behind the curve..
Exactly. It's all about timing. If 3dfx had released the 5500 and
6000 cards now to compete with the Geforce, they would have stomped Nvidia.
Then release Rampage with T&L 4thQT 2000. But 3dfx has lost their window of
opportunity and they will suffer if Nvidia releasese the Geforce 2 2ndQT 2k.
Thorian
and the other about voodoo 5 stomping GeForce and all this had it come out
at the same time. I don't think it would. Reason? Seems like all they did
is supe up the Voodoo architecture once again and beef up the # of MB.
There isn't anything different about it. The GeForce on the other hand
actually sports new technology. It's the only video card of it's kind.
When you are getting as high of fps as you do with the GeForce, it just
doesn't matter whether the next card can add 20 fps. Your eyeball simple
doesn't notice. Plus, if you want to play Quake 3 with all the eye candy at
1600x1200 resolution that's fine...but with the GeForce you could do that
very nicely at 1024x768 and 1280xwhatever the number is...and not really
notice the difference. The only reason why I could see somebody purchasing
the Voodoo 5 for the amount of money they are selling it for is because they
want to show off. As far as practicality is concerned, it's not even worth
it! I'd rather have a less expensive card with half the ram and 4 engines
on it than a suped up Voodoo2 with 128MB ram. 3DFx just hasn't invented a
better way to process graphics as Nvidia did, and all they can do is play
off their name and supe up what they have.
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<snip about GeForce vs Voodoo>
Freqq
support, my next card will be whatever company happens to have the fastest
board for whatever game I'm currenly interested in at a price I can
reasonable afford.
Mahmood <warrior...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> pLnCrZy <pLn...@hotmail-nospam.com> wrote
> >. Look at Voodoo2... nothing spectacular.
> Gonna have to refute that. At the time, 3dFx was the only company that
made
> decent chipsets with an API that was easier to program for and optimized
for
> their cards..
>
> > I'm a devout nVidia man now.
>
Kisersose
"Thorian" <jb...@spam.usc.edu> wrote in message news:8300nq$6m3$1...@usc.edu...
> Nvidia is well beyond the stages of 3DFx. People have been saying this
that
> and the other about voodoo 5 stomping GeForce and all this had it come out
> at the same time. I don't think it would. Reason? Seems like all they
did
> is supe up the Voodoo architecture once again and beef up the # of MB.
> There isn't anything different about it. The GeForce on the other hand
> actually sports new technology. It's the only video card of it's kind.
Let's be realistic here. While it does have great new
technology, it doesn't do anything with current games. I think the $299 5500
with 700+ megapixels/sec and FSAA would have competed very well with a
Geforce DDR. As great as a DDR Geforce is , there are some stages in Q3A
with lots of textures, like DM9, that slows it down too much. With the
5500's fill rate, I'm sure you could play most games at 1280/960, maybe
1600/1200, in 32-bit color if the game supports it, at 60fps. Whether it
would have come with a solid OpenGL ICD is unknown and that's very
important, especially for Q3A. As for UT, this game would have run like a
dream on the 5500. I'm not sure how well FSAA would perform on this card,
considering how massive a fill rate you need to run it, but I'm sure it's
very useable on older games and some recent games at 1024/768, which don't
require new patches. The games are automatically upgraded, unlike the T&L of
the Geforce, which has to be coded for. But like I said in my previous post
in this thread, 3dfx has missed their window of opportunity. If Nvidia
releases the Geforce 2 at around the same time 3dfx releases their 5500 and
6000 cards, they are finished. As impressive as the 6000 is, I don't believe
there is a market anymore for $600 gaming cards. Those $600 dual V2 SLI days
are over. 3dfx needs to bring out Rampage for no more than $299 soon.
Edward
If you were to compare a TNT2 and a V3 it would be hard to say which is
better... With Voodoo you get great performance in Glide games (though only
at 16bit or "22bit"), Descent, Unreal engine games, etc, and they look
great. The old MiniGl's for Quake also meant the 3Dfx cards were fast gaming
cards.
With the V3 we got a card with lower specs than the competiiton, but that
could keep up with the new architecture cards beacuse of Glide and MiniGl's.
The Dire3d drivers are good too (I get the same framerate in UT (i swore!)
in Glide and D3D - it just doesn't look as nice).
We now have new cards - a Voodoo 4, with 32bit and 32Mb Ram .. and some
expensive V5, and V6's. We do know that these will storm along playing
descent and unreal, and other Glide engines, but how many new games are
based around a Glide engine ... I get the feeling we are seeing the last
few. I hope OpenGL will be the way forward, i get the feeling that dire3d
may win the day.
So we will see the V4 oem packaged with Wheel of Time and UT in 6 months
time, and beating GeForce hands down in these games (I've seen benchmarks
showing the v3 3500 pushing the GeForce in Unreal engine games) but even the
V6 won't be able to compare with the T&L engines written with the GeForce in
mind.
Now if 3Dfx had released the V4 as the V3, and the V5 as the V3 3500, and we
were waiting for the V6 any moment soon I think we would have a different
story.
For myself, I have a P3 450 with 128 Mb of ram. My processor was fast when I
bought it, but now it is less so, soon it may be slow! Do I wan't to buy a
card that takes the strain off by CPU (geforce), or one that doesn't (V5)
...
However when the new 3DFX's do hit the streets it will be interesting to see
how they compare. The Voodoo3 has surprised us in the long term.
Till then
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