OFP Community MUST Motivate itself
LogiPlay
Well, this was an interesting interview. Pretty typical of CM/BIS, no REAL
answers.BUT one thing caugh my eye.
This question is very nice and the answer was VERY interesting.
Ofp.dk: What is BIS and Codemasters going to do so they can keep the
Multiplayer community alive - Plans on anything specific ?
David: To a certain extent a community has to run and motivate itself but we
want to do everything we can to support that community and the best way we
can do that right now is with regular updates and information.
OK, DAVID, PUT your money where you mouth is, RIGHT now the OFP community is
DOING everything, and CM/BIS are doing nothing. SO, how about releasing the
TOOLS for US to motivate and run ourselves, NOT to just a few insiders BUT
to this community you speak of.
BTW, another note of interest from here
http://www.3dactionplanet.com/flashpoint/
SITH and DNA are actually employees of BIS.....or at least according to this
web page they are, I find this most interesting because everyone I have
talked to within the community seemed to think they were just another member
of the community. I guess this explains WHY Operation Vietnam is getting SO
MUCH SUPPORT, the main members are actually employees of BIS.
I assume it is not just me that seems to think that this is strange. I have
never seen a community like this..ONE in which employees of the company POSE
as ordinary members.
Chris G.
Ah the plot thickens!!! Well I dunno...BIS/CM could call them employees if
they are paying them to make mods....they could call everyone involved in
the OV mod employees in that regard. Do you know for a fact that they have
always been BIS or CM employees even before they began working on the MOD?
If not then don't start rumors. Ease up a bit and let them have a chance to
prove themselves.
Chris G.
aka-Miles Teg<GD>
"LogiPlay" <sacc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Placebo
> BTW, another note of interest from here
> http://www.3dactionplanet.com/flashpoint/
>
> SITH and DNA are actually employees of BIS.....or at least according to this
> web page they are,
Errr no you'll find my news post says "DnA and Sith will be out of the
Bis offices over the weekend", and my forum post explains they're simply
visiting the Bis guys for a week or so to help them with beta testing,
mission design and playtesting, if you know anything at all about Bis
you'll know they're a small company without many staff members, Dna &
Sith are simply visiting the guys, hanging out with them and helping
them with a few things, as any other member of the Opf community would
love to do I'm sure :O)
>I find this most interesting because everyone I have
> talked to within the community seemed to think they were just another member
> of the community.
See above :O)
>I guess this explains WHY Operation Vietnam is getting SO
> MUCH SUPPORT,
Yes we've had the SDK for months now /me turns off sarcasm mode ;O)
>the main members are actually employees of BIS.
>
See above :O)
> I assume it is not just me that seems to think that this is strange. I have
> never seen a community like this..ONE in which employees of the company POSE
> as ordinary members.
See above :O)
Just figured I'd pop on here and give the other side of the story, ie
the truth :O)
Thanx for listening,
Placebo OFPN.
BTW that's unpaid employee of OFPN, non-employee of Codemasters (ask Si
if you don't believe me) & non-employee of Bis, figured I'd should add
that for the record :O)
Placebo
>
> Ah the plot thickens!!! Well I dunno...BIS/CM could call them employees if
> they are paying them to make mods....they could call everyone involved in
> the OV mod employees in that regard. Do you know for a fact that they have
> always been BIS or CM employees even before they began working on the MOD?
> If not then don't start rumors. Ease up a bit and let them have a chance to
> prove themselves.
Here speaketh the voice of reason ;O)
LogiPlay
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"Chris G." <chri...@txdirect.net> wrote in message
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Placebo
>
> Chris, this isn't a RUMOUR, this is straight from their OWN website
>
Funny how he replies to Chris yet ignores me......hmmm :)
Placebo OFPN.
LogiPlay
BTW, go to YOUR OWN forums, there are 2 different posts in there from SITH
in which he states that he works for BIS....
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Chris G.
Dude....chill out... Placebo emailed me about that...Sith & DnA were just
out at BIS helping them test some stuff. Just because they are at the BIS
offices doesn't mean they work for them. Hell just email Sith & DnA
yourself. But don't exagerate stuff and start rumors. It just pisses off
BIS and gets the OFP community all riled up about nothing. As far as the
OFP community and motivation, well it's true what they say...it must
motivate itself. The game only just was released and you want the world
from them. Relax a bit and be patient. Keep encouraging them to release
the SDK politely and with sensible arguements like you and Nigel made
earlier. Even better yet, perhaps try to find information comparing profit
revenues of various software manufacturers from specific FPS games to show
the differences between those who have released their SDK and those who
haven't. Sure Half Life and it's spawn, Counter Strike may be the most
popular ever, but did they make the most money? Show BIS solid info with
$$ and you'll get more of a response from them concerning SDK. But starting
rumors and accusations does not help them or us any.
Chris G.
aka-Miles Teg<GD>
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Placebo
>
> Are you feeling neglected...
>
No I was just eagerly awaiting the next instalment of this highly
amusing conspiracy soap opera :O)
> BTW, go to YOUR OWN forums, there are 2 different posts in there from SITH
> in which he states that he works for BIS....
>
"DnA and me r currently working for BIS".... If you were hanging out
with Bis and playing around with their new missions/addons/patches etc
is that not how you would describe it?
Sith/Dna may be "working for" they may be "working with" but they're not
now, nor ever have been "employed by" Bis or Cm, you could call it a 1
week internship if you so wished, the simple fact is as I've already
explained twice, Sith/Dna have gone to hang out with the guys for a week
or so and will be helping them out around the office.
Obviously you have no intention of believing me, why should you, after
all I'm only the friend and ofpn colleague of Sith/Dna, so clearly I
can't possibly know anything about them or what they're doing......
You stick to your version of the truth and I'll stick to the true
version of the truth :O)
LogiPlay
the forums, this is WELL above rumour
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"Chris G." <chri...@txdirect.net> wrote in message
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LogiPlay
> LogiPlay wrote:
> >
> > Are you feeling neglected...
> >
>
> No I was just eagerly awaiting the next instalment of this highly
> amusing conspiracy soap opera :O)
>
>
> > BTW, go to YOUR OWN forums, there are 2 different posts in there from
SITH
> > in which he states that he works for BIS....
> >
>
> "DnA and me r currently working for BIS".... If you were hanging out
> with Bis and playing around with their new missions/addons/patches etc
> is that not how you would describe it?
>
> Sith/Dna may be "working for" they may be "working with" but they're not
> now, nor ever have been "employed by" Bis or Cm, you could call it a 1
> week internship if you so wished, the simple fact is as I've already
> explained twice, Sith/Dna have gone to hang out with the guys for a week
> or so and will be helping them out around the office.
>
> Obviously you have no intention of believing me, why should you, after
> all I'm only the friend and ofpn colleague of Sith/Dna, so clearly I
> can't possibly know anything about them or what they're doing......
>
Ok, then ...lets lay ONE rumour to rest right here and now..
Is OPERATION VIETNAM going to be a free download or are people going to have
to pay for it.
Since you are such close friends with two of the top guys in the MOD, YOU
should know this
zero <GD>
companies? For goodness sakes folks, a troll is a troll! I blocked him the
first time, perhaps you should have yourselves. If the two of you hadn't
replied, I'd have never know he was around
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Placebo
>
> There are 3 different references about this ONE on their web page, and 2 in
> the forums, this is WELL above rumour
>
You're seriously obsessed with this aren't you? I've told you what 3
times now? and still for whatever reason you keep whittering on about
it, damn I'm so tired now I don't even remember what the original point
was, but anyways, it's been explained, you choose to not believe me
*shrugs* you're free to think whatever you like :O)
Placebo OFPN.
BTW that's unpaid employee of OFPN, non-employee of Codemasters (ask Si
if you don't believe me) & non-employee of Bis, figured I'd should add
that for the record :O) I guess I'll have to keep adding this or
tomorrow I'll wake up to find out I've suddenly become head of
codemasters or something ;O)
Placebo
> Ok, then ...lets lay ONE rumour to rest right here and now..
>
> Is OPERATION VIETNAM going to be a free download or are people going to have
> to pay for it.
>
> Since you are such close friends with two of the top guys in the MOD, YOU
> should know this
>
Why would you need to ask me this? I was under the impression you had
"sources" that had told you it would be a pay to play, bet you can't
name these mysterious "sources" can you? and why can't you name them,
because you're talking nonsense :O)
You name your "sources" and I'll give you my answer :O)
Placebo OFPN.
BTW that's unpaid employee of OFPN, non-employee of Codemasters (ask Si
if you don't believe me) & non-employee of Bis, figured I'd should add
that AGAIN for the record :O)
LogiPlay
So, YOU don't know the answer....DO you..
If you had answered that question perhaps then I would have believed
you..BUT, you don't
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Chris G.
Who logiplay?
Chris G.
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Chuck Dixon
Keep encouraging them to release
> the SDK politely and with sensible arguements like you and Nigel made
> earlier
This might be a silly question, but I've been trying to figure out what SDK
stands for. Reading various threads and messages I haven't been able to find
out what it stands for though it's referenced often. Can someone help me?
Thank you,
Chuck
Chris G.
Nah just kidding, it stands for Software Developement Kit....or something
like that. :) Basically it's the game engine code and all the goodies to
help understand it and use it.
Chris G.
aka-Miles Teg<GD>
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Placebo
>
> Nice DUCK and WEAVE ,
>
> So, YOU don't know the answer....DO you..
>
> If you had answered that question perhaps then I would have believed
> you..BUT, you don't
Yeah it was nice ducking wasn't it ;O) almost as good as yours.
If you'd bothered to notice the time on my post it was 3am for me, I was
far too tired to reply to your nonsense.
I'm not on the Nam mod team for one (if you'd bothered checking your
facts you would have known that), all the guys who are on the team that
I've spoken to are rather puzzled why some idjit has got it into their
brain that it's going to be a "pay" mod, how can anyone with the
smallest amount of intelligence even think that something which is
barely past the drawing board is going to be "sold"? these guys have
never done anything like this before, who's to know what the end quality
will be like? it could be a steaming pile of cow excreta for all anyone
knows, it's months away, possible as much as a year away, who in their
right mind would make an assumption based on zero facts whatsoever? oh
yes that's right, you would, I guess the rest of us just have to draw
our own conclusions about the quality of your character.
The thing I find disgusting is that the blatant lies and unfounded
rumours are hurting people, people that are my friends, I'm extremely
loyal to my friends, as any decent person would be.
I think I'll end this now, you're clearly just one of these negative
trolls who always wants to see the bad in people, always wants to see a
negative side, always want to stir up nonsense by lying and making false
accusations, well you do what you want, Ofpn will survive no matter how
many jealous fools sling mud at us, why is that you ask? why will we
survive when others fail? is it because we get special treatment from
Bis/Cm? no it's because we're a group of loyal, dedicated, supportive,
committed people who're happy to give our free time in support of a game
and it's community that we hold dear, even if some of that same
community spits in our faces.
Ask yourself this, if it was all such a secret and a conspiracy that Dna
& Sith were hanging around Bis for a week or so, then why have they both
been coming into the irc channel using the tags Dna|Bis Sith|Bis not a
very good way of hiding it if it's true, the simple fact is Dna and Sith
are two teenagers (you knew their ages right?) who are hanging out with
the guys who made this totally kickass game, they're stoked about it, as
anybody else would be, well once they put their jealousy aside and
thought rationally that is.....
I wonder why I really bothered typing all this to you, when you're
clearly in capable of reading anything and seeing what you want to see,
I guess I'm just frankly sickened the way some people want to see ofpn
as being the bad guys, you will read all this and reply with some crap
I'm sure, obviously you don't have the intellect to actually read what
I've been saying, take it in and process it properly, well nothing I can
do about that, enjoy Max Payne or which ever community you wonder into
next, sorry that you hate Opf/Bis so much.
Placebo
PS Name your sources? LMAO.
LogiPlay
#operationflashpoint.
He has also been involved in conversations in #operationvietnam , a hidden
channel on irc.gamesnet.net IRC.
AND Placebo, either YOU are lieing or DON'T know, Not really sure which.
BUT....OperationVietnam has already been established as a PAY MOD by
development team.
Placbo - ICQ# 912370
Seventh - ICQ# 18546620
Sith - ICQ# 79004917
Placebo
LogiPlay
> And the reason for posting our ICQ numbers was?
To allow people who want to get in direct contact with OFPN members to be
able to do so, REMEMBER you guys are a community/fan website.
OOPS>..what was I thinking..NO you aren't. You guys are a front end for CM
posing as a fan website.
LogiPlay
Just in case you think I am the only person who thinks this, here is a link
to a gaming/tweaking website who thinks the same way
Chris G.
(sigh) Who cares if it's a pay mod or not... if it is fine. If it's good
then it's worth paying for. Big deal... if it's free then great. Drop it
already will yeah.
Chris G.
aka-Miles Teg<GD>
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Placebo
Post an Opf site that thinks the same way.
LogiPlay
Well that was a pretty stupid thing to say....jeez...Of course OFP sites
aren't going to say it...
Placebo
I know, because they're not stupid enough to print such rubbish, unlike
Ratzo :O)
Nigel Brodt-Savage
should sparkle up the dialogue a bit, hell .. has to be better than Fowler
and Kowolzki =)
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Blood <TZW>
Blood <TZW>
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Placebo
>
> Mebbe in the addons we'll have two new characters, placebo and logiplay,
> should sparkle up the dialogue a bit, hell .. has to be better than Fowler
> and Kowolzki =)
>
LMAO naaah if they put me in the same game as Logiplay then ELSPA would
have to up the rating ;O)
I'm surprised by his absence today, obviously he hasn't read the latest
lies from Ratzo, you should check it out while it's still there, it's
not going to stay around for long, legal issues methinks ;O)
Placebo.
si
Sith, and DnA are not, I say again for the hard of reading, ARE NOT paid
employee's of Bohemia or Codemasters. The guys who run The Seventh web site,
are working with Bohemia on bugs, mission designs, helping round the
offices, getting to know what makes the place tick, as they were some of the
first people online to know anything about this great game. There was more
information on their site than I had access to when we first started working
on the game here, so it made sense to use them and a few other ssites which
existed back then.
One of the key ways to create a strong comunity is to set up web-links with
as many sites as possible, which is what I have tried to do with the
Codemasters site. In doing so, we have been amazed by the vast amount of
information some of these web masters have on the game, due to showing such
an interest in it since the products first conception.
Being so enthusiastic about the game, they created ther own mod, Operation
Vietnam. Something they developed in their OWN TIME! Something that was so
interesting to the developers and the publishers, it had been discussed
further. I for one as well impressed with the level of effort and ideas
coming out of their site and happily recommend their site, purely due to the
work they put into their site and finding out more about the game from any
source they can, not sitting on their back sides, demanding more free
missions, upgrades, SDK's etc for this quality game like 'some' people seem
to be doing!!!!!!!
*IF* anything of this idea was released, what's the problem if it's free or
for sale?
If it has enough content and is basically a full new campaign........why
can't they charge for it? Or if it a small add on, to increase the life span
of the game, it would then fall into downlaod size, which could be free. I
for one don't know any more than this, I'm alo in a fairly better position
to know what the future plans are, so by making such strong accusations, and
spreading such rumours isn't doing yourself or the community ANY favours.
* Upgrade packs WILL be available this week I can state.
Cheers
Si
"LogiPlay" <sacc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> There are 3 different references about this ONE on their web page, and 2
in
> the forums, this is WELL above rumour
>
>
>
>
Placebo
>
> Enough of this mud slinging crap!
> Sith, and DnA are not, I say again for the hard of reading, ARE NOT paid
> employee's of Bohemia or Codemasters.
Told you so LMAO, sorry couldn't resist that ;O)
Placebo.