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maxon

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Apr 14, 2008, 11:47:13 AM4/14/08
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I've just started the second act and I suspect I've run into a bug. Me and
Neeshka are trying to get into the Collector's mansion but the door is
locked and Neeshka can't open it. It says I need a special key for that. I
don't mean we can't get through to the second floor or anything. I've been
reading threads on the vault and other places trying to work out what to do
and I understand (now - spoilers, huh) that the actual inside of the place
is supposed to be one big puzzle where you locate keys and get to new areas.
What I mean is we can't get in through the front door. We're stuck outside
in the street. Neeshka's tried to pick it, Bishop's had a good old bash at
it, I've stood behind and cursed it and it's not shifting. We've just done
the Bryce tomb but nothing else in act 2.

What I'm asking is can anyone confirm this is a bug? From what I've read,
the door is supposed to be open or openable and we should be able to get
inside. I haven't seen anything that says we have to pick the front door or
find a key for it. Was this supposed to get opened when we met that women
(Leldon's missus) outside the Flagon? If so, is there any way to get it
open or do I need to try and trigger it again? Or did I do something wrong?

Any help and advice most gratefully accepted. I'm enjoying the OC. I just
got a new computer which means I can play it at last. It's much better than
the OC of NWN.

Best wishes
maxon

Dave

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Apr 15, 2008, 7:57:04 AM4/15/08
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It's worked for me every time - Neeshka picking it
I assume you need Neeska to meet Leldon's missus - she has to be in your
party - if she wasn't when you ran into the girlfriend, make sure you talk
to her outside the Flagon with Neeshka in the party.

"> What I'm asking is can anyone confirm this is a bug? From what I've
read,
> the door is supposed to be open or openable and we should be able to get
> inside. I haven't seen anything that says we have to pick the front door
> or find a key for it. Was this supposed to get opened when we met that
> women (Leldon's missus) outside the Flagon? If so, is there any way to
> get it open or do I need to try and trigger it again? Or did I do
> something wrong?
>
> Any help and advice most gratefully accepted. I'm enjoying the OC. I
> just got a new computer which means I can play it at last. It's much
> better than the OC of NWN.
>
> Best wishes
> maxon


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maxon

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Apr 15, 2008, 3:22:51 PM4/15/08
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"Dave" <syln...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> It's worked for me every time - Neeshka picking it
> I assume you need Neeska to meet Leldon's missus - she has to be in your
> party - if she wasn't when you ran into the girlfriend, make sure you talk
> to her outside the Flagon with Neeshka in the party.

Yes, Neeshka was with me when I first exited the Sunken Flagon and we had
the conversation. Damn it. Maybe I have to meet the wife without Neeshka
first? Thanks for confirming it's doing it wrong - whatever it is it's
doing. At least if I know what's SUPPOSED to happen, I can try and make it
happen (if that makes sense).

Best wishes
maxon

Dave

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Apr 15, 2008, 4:13:06 PM4/15/08
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well, I've done it both ways and they both worked for me ;}
only other thing I can think of is maybe your dialogue affects it....
Dave.

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Kharsis

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Apr 15, 2008, 8:46:32 PM4/15/08
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This may sound like a stupid suggestion but make sure you are trying the
right building. Several times i've gone to the wrong building by mistake.

Kharsis

maxon

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Apr 16, 2008, 12:58:25 AM4/16/08
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"Kharsis" <kha...@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
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> This may sound like a stupid suggestion but make sure you are trying the
> right building. Several times i've gone to the wrong building by mistake.

Well, you never know. But it's next to the Bryce tomb, yes?

Best wishes
maxon

Kharsis

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Apr 16, 2008, 5:55:28 AM4/16/08
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I believe so - it is also marked on the map. I haven't had your problem
so was just trying to suggest anything thay may be causing it no matter
how unlikely ;-)

Kharsis

maxon

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Apr 16, 2008, 6:27:38 AM4/16/08
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"Kharsis" <kha...@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
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> I believe so - it is also marked on the map. I haven't had your problem
> so was just trying to suggest anything thay may be causing it no matter
> how unlikely ;-)

I hope you didn't read that as dismissive - it certainly wasn't meant to be.
All suggestions gratefully received as I said in the original post. I'll
have a look round and see if there's any other possible places we can try.
It does seem to me though that the 'unlock' hasn't triggered in which case
I'll have to go backwards with saves (which probably means the end of
chapter 1) and try and get it to trigger properly or trying a cheat of some
kind. If so, I'll have to find out how to do it.

Best wishes
maxon

Dave

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Apr 16, 2008, 7:05:26 AM4/16/08
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what response do you get from the game when you try to unlock?
does it say that it needs a key?
perhaps your Neeshka doesn't have high enough picking skills....
in which case have her use a high lockpick kit


> It does seem to me though that the 'unlock' hasn't triggered in which case
> I'll have to go backwards with saves (which probably means the end of
> chapter 1) and try and get it to trigger properly or trying a cheat of
> some kind. If so, I'll have to find out how to do it.
>
> Best wishes
> maxon

Pink Freud

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Apr 16, 2008, 7:36:08 AM4/16/08
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Have you tried trying to open the door with your main character? If one
character has the key in their inventory then only they can open the door.
If you spoke to Leldon's missus with your main character, wouldn't they get
the key?


Kharsis

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Apr 16, 2008, 10:46:49 AM4/16/08
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No certainly didn't read it as dismissive - I post on forums frequently
so don't take anyhting as dismissive unless it's obviously so. I've
found through getting help for variuos games that sometimes it's the
obvious things you miss.

I'm still playing for the first time through the OC (slowly as i'm very
involved in WoW).

Kharsis

maxon

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Apr 16, 2008, 4:43:42 PM4/16/08
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"Pink Freud" <some...@here.com> wrote in message
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> Have you tried trying to open the door with your main character? If one
> character has the key in their inventory then only they can open the door.
> If you spoke to Leldon's missus with your main character, wouldn't they
> get the key?

Maybe but she also tried the door - everyone did - and it does seem that the
door has to be picklocked.

Best wishes
maxon

maxon

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Apr 16, 2008, 4:41:09 PM4/16/08
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"Dave" <syln...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> what response do you get from the game when you try to unlock?
> does it say that it needs a key?

Yes, it does say that. It doesn't say the lockpick failed or that she
doesn't have the requisite skill to do it. Maybe I could try with a
lockpick kit.

> perhaps your Neeshka doesn't have high enough picking skills....
> in which case have her use a high lockpick kit

She has the highest lock pick skill she can have for the level we are at.
It's early in act 2 and we're about level 12, I think.

Best wishes
maxon

maxon

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Apr 16, 2008, 5:56:52 PM4/16/08
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"Kharsis" <kha...@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
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> No certainly didn't read it as dismissive - I post on forums frequently so
> don't take anyhting as dismissive unless it's obviously so. I've found
> through getting help for variuos games that sometimes it's the obvious
> things you miss.
>
> I'm still playing for the first time through the OC (slowly as i'm very
> involved in WoW).

Well, d'uh - you were right, I was trying the wrong house. I was trying
the house NEXT DOOR, dammit. Well, that house says it needs a special key
to open so perhaps we get to come back later and burgle that one too. I
hope so. Anyway, I am off now to thieve every last copper piece I can find
in the Collector's place. Having read various forum posts on the area, to
make up for being thoroughly spoilered, I am going to try what one poster
tried which was go through the place with just Neeshka in tow. The idea
being to sneak through the entire place and not fight anyone - except
wassissname at the end. My character is a ranger and, therefore, a pretty
good sneaker herself. I might take Bishop along to help beat the crap out
of anyone who does see us, accidentally like. I'll keep him on a tight
leash. NOT the sort of mission on which to drag along the paladin. Oh,
wait - I have to have that bloody woman along too. Damn. This is not
working out as planned. If I hadn't got confused about which door to try
we'd be a lot richer by now and poking round in Ember.

Thank you for the shove in the right direction.

Best wishes
maxon

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