Matrox Mystique vs Millenium....
Lance A. Larka
I'm considering buying a P5-200/MMX computer that I plan on using
primarily for game playing. I'm looking at two video cards, the matrox
mystique with 4mb or the matrox millenium w/8mb.
Which is better for games?
Thanks.
cheers.
--
================================================
Lance Larka
Email: lal...@pw.usda.gov
"Science answers the question you asked,
not the question you thought you asked."
================================================
Pierre Lainé
Hi Lance,
I'll give you a piece of a good advice : forget about Matrox, it' 100% pure
shit !
Matrox always cheat in benchmarks !
I would rather use ATI graphic boards that are, according to me, really
boosting 2D, video and 3D on our PCs !
Kenavo.
(by)
Peet.
Brant Rusch
> I'm considering buying a P5-200/MMX computer that I plan on using
> primarily for game playing. I'm looking at two video cards, the matrox
> mystique with 4mb or the matrox millenium w/8mb.
>
> Which is better for games?
Well the Millennium is an excellent video card, but its also the card that
seems to have the most compatibility
problems with software out of the box........by that I mean, there's always
someone posting something
like "Game won't work with my Millennium without patch" or this and
that.....still, if I had to do it over again,
I'd buy a Millennium.
Mystique is an excellent DOS performer, but its 3D capabilities are
crippled because its missing certain
features that all other 3D chips have.
Your best bet, if you can wait, is to check into the Hercules
Stingray.....excellent 128bit 2D graphics chip PLUS
the Voodoo Rush 3DFx chipset.......no Vesa 2.0 yet, but they said it will
come.
Brant
R. James Sanderson
Chances are that any Graphics card with 8mb of Ram is going to
be superior to a card with 4mb. Although I have been very happy with
my Matrox Millenium and it only has 2mb.
On Thu, 22 May 1997 12:29:20 -0700, "Lance A. Larka"
<lal...@pw.usda.gov> wrote:
>I'm considering buying a P5-200/MMX computer that I plan on using
>primarily for game playing. I'm looking at two video cards, the matrox
>mystique with 4mb or the matrox millenium w/8mb.
>
>Which is better for games?
>
>Thanks.
>cheers.
>--
>================================================
>
>Lance Larka
>Email: lal...@pw.usda.gov
>
> "Science answers the question you asked,
> not the question you thought you asked."
>
>================================================
R. James Sanderson
Guelph, Ontario, Canada
http://www.mgl.ca/~jsanders/
archeon
Yeah right..that probably why ATI card are always giving compatibilty
problems for as long as I can remember...
They are not as good as you may think...
check out this url if you need some proof :
http://www.matrox.com/mgaweb/leadstor/proof.htm
Oh, and BTW Lance, a millennium(II) and voodoo 3dFX combination really
rocks!
bye!
archie
Bonnie James
In article <5m2bdu$3g4$1...@newsfeeds.grolier.fr>, pe...@club-internet.fr
says...
> Hi Lance,
>
> I'll give you a piece of a good advice : forget about Matrox, it' 100% pure
> shit !
>
> Matrox always cheat in benchmarks !
>
> I would rather use ATI graphic boards that are, according to me, really
> boosting 2D, video and 3D on our PCs !
>
> (by)
>
> Peet.
>
>
>
>
For more info on 3D accelerator cards, check out this overview
http://www.elecplay.com/feature/3dpc/ It includes API, info on 3d
accelerated games and a glossary.
--
Bonnie Jame
The Electric Playground http://www.elecplay.com
R&R
"Pierre Lainé" <pe...@club-internet.fr> wrote:
>Hi Lance,
>I'll give you a piece of a good advice : forget about Matrox, it' 100% pure
>shit !
>Matrox always cheat in benchmarks !
I'm not so sure about this. I would check in
comps.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video before making any real decision. There
was also a pointer to one of the magazine pages where all of the 3D
accelerator cards were compared.
>I would rather use ATI graphic boards that are, according to me, really
>boosting 2D, video and 3D on our PCs !
Please note the "according to me" in the above statement. It is not
based on any factual evidence.
>Kenavo.
>(by)
>Peet.
R&R
"Lance A. Larka" <lal...@pw.usda.gov> wrote:
>I'm considering buying a P5-200/MMX computer that I plan on using
>primarily for game playing. I'm looking at two video cards, the matrox
>mystique with 4mb or the matrox millenium w/8mb.
>Which is better for games?
If all you want to do is play games, then the Mystique is probably
good enough. I have a Millenium myself and plan to install a 3D
Monster with it. Now that is a gamers video board combination that
will really perform.
Regards,
Ron
Mark McQuaide
Don't bother with either one unless you also want to add a 3DFX 3D card.
Get a rendition-based card like the Canopus total 3D if you want to use
only one PCI slot.
Mark
Lance A. Larka <lal...@pw.usda.gov> wrote in article
<33849E...@pw.usda.gov>...
> I'm considering buying a P5-200/MMX computer that I plan on using
> primarily for game playing. I'm looking at two video cards, the matrox
> mystique with 4mb or the matrox millenium w/8mb.
>
> Which is better for games?
>
Peter Peterson
In article <33850e4...@news.mgl.ca>, jsan...@mgl.ca says...
> Chances are that any Graphics card with 8mb of Ram is going to
> be superior to a card with 4mb. Although I have been very happy with
> my Matrox Millenium and it only has 2mb.
>
mystique.
--
Peter Y. Peterson
Department of Nuclear Engineering
North Carolina State University
919-515-3937
pype...@eos.ncsu.edu
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~pypeters
Scott
On Fri, 23 May 1997 09:40:42 GMT, arc...@hotmail.com (archeon) wrote:
>On Thu, 22 May 1997 22:47:52 +0200, "Pierre Lainé"
><pe...@club-internet.fr> wrote:
>
>>Hi Lance,
>>
>>I'll give you a piece of a good advice : forget about Matrox, it' 100% pure
>>shit !
>>
>>Matrox always cheat in benchmarks !
>>
>>I would rather use ATI graphic boards that are, according to me, really
>>boosting 2D, video and 3D on our PCs !
>
>Yeah right..that probably why ATI card are always giving compatibilty
>problems for as long as I can remember...
>
>They are not as good as you may think...
>bye!
>
>archie
>
I've had both several generations of ATI Mach 32 & Mach 64 products as
well as a 4meg Matrox Millenium. I like the drivers that come with
the ATI cards MUCH better, so my last upgrade was to an 8meg ATI
Pro-Turbo 3D (with the PC2TV thing I've never used.) I've never had
any compatibility problems except for this: I can no longer see VGAP
hyperjump circles in the Starcharts screen.
Other than that, the card screams!
- Scott
Don Hollenback
I guess I don't know what I'm missing! I've got the Mystique with 4 meg
and it runs 3D games perfectly (TombRaider especially) no clipping, no
compatability problems and smooooth! At $149 with 4 megs, it's a good
deal.
--
Don Hollenback
Bay Area Transcription Service
http://members.aol.com/BayType/index.html
The best word processing company on the planet.
Brant Rusch <Ru...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<01bc6704$8df97fc0$d9cbb7c7@default>...
> > I'm considering buying a P5-200/MMX computer that I plan on using
> > primarily for game playing. I'm looking at two video cards, the matrox
> > mystique with 4mb or the matrox millenium w/8mb.
> >
> > Which is better for games?
>
AfterImage
Lance A. Larka <lal...@pw.usda.gov> wrote in article
> I'm considering buying a P5-200/MMX computer that I plan on using
> primarily for game playing. I'm looking at two video cards, the matrox
> mystique with 4mb or the matrox millenium w/8mb.
If you are looking at game playing go with the Mystique. However, if you
want the very very best, go with a Millennium and then an Orchid Righteous
3d add on board. And don't let anybody tell you that ATI rules. They don't.
Flem
On Fri, 23 May 1997 09:40:42 GMT, arc...@hotmail.com (archeon) wrote:
>On Thu, 22 May 1997 22:47:52 +0200, "Pierre Lainé"
><pe...@club-internet.fr> wrote:
>
>>Hi Lance,
>>
>>I'll give you a piece of a good advice : forget about Matrox, it' 100% pure
>>shit !
>>
>>Matrox always cheat in benchmarks !
>>
>>I would rather use ATI graphic boards that are, according to me, really
>>boosting 2D, video and 3D on our PCs !
>
>Yeah right..that probably why ATI card are always giving compatibilty
>problems for as long as I can remember...
>
>They are not as good as you may think...
>check out this url if you need some proof :
>
>http://www.matrox.com/mgaweb/leadstor/proof.htm
>
>Oh, and BTW Lance, a millennium(II) and voodoo 3dFX combination really
>rocks!
>
>bye!
>
>archie
Yes that's right go to the *Matrox* site for "proof" that a *Matrox*
card is the best one to buy.
Which version of reality are you using?
--
Flem.
archeon
So very true..Also keep in mind that matrox has just realeased the
millennium II !!!
Check out http://www.matrox.com/mgaweb/products/mill2.htm for more
info...
It looks INCREDIBLE! Supports up to 16 MB WRAM !! And goes up to
1920x1200 res...just wonder what monitor you'll have to get get to use
that res...
It also works with the rainbow runner from the mystique...
bye!
archie
Claus Nielsen
>I'm considering buying a P5-200/MMX computer that I plan on using
>primarily for game playing. I'm looking at two video cards, the matrox
>mystique with 4mb or the matrox millenium w/8mb.
>
The Mystique is the better choice for a game card, where the Millenium
is a bit faster at normal Windows stuff...
But I'd still consider buying a 3Dfx-based card too. The Mystique is
great at 2D games, but the 3D part just isn't up-to-date.
Bye, Claus Nielsen
---
e-mail: c...@post6.tele.dk
homepage: http://home6.inet.tele.dk/cnn
PSX Junkies
On 23 May 97 20:51:32 GMT, "Mark McQuaide" <mcqu...@dca.net> wrote:
>Don't bother with either one unless you also want to add a 3DFX 3D card.
>Get a rendition-based card like the Canopus total 3D if you want to use
>only one PCI slot.
>
>Mark
I would rather wait for Hercules's stingray 128/3D card. It's a 2d/3d
combo card which features the 3dfx!
>
>Lance A. Larka <lal...@pw.usda.gov> wrote in article
><33849E...@pw.usda.gov>...
>> I'm considering buying a P5-200/MMX computer that I plan on using
>> primarily for game playing. I'm looking at two video cards, the matrox
>> mystique with 4mb or the matrox millenium w/8mb.
>>
>> Which is better for games?
>>
Amorphous
> Lance A. Larka <lal...@pw.usda.gov> wrote in article
> <33849E...@pw.usda.gov>...
> > I'm considering buying a P5-200/MMX computer that I plan on using
> > primarily for game playing. I'm looking at two video cards, the matrox
> > mystique with 4mb or the matrox millenium w/8mb.
> >
> > Which is better for games?
If you don't care about 2D performance then go for one of the Rendition Verite-based
boards.
Ian
Amorphous
Flem <sall...@squirrel.com.au> wrote in article
<33866bf1...@news.squirrel.com.au>...
> On Fri, 23 May 1997 09:40:42 GMT, arc...@hotmail.com (archeon) wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 22 May 1997 22:47:52 +0200, "Pierre Lainé"
> ><pe...@club-internet.fr> wrote:
> >>I'll give you a piece of a good advice : forget about Matrox, it' 100% pure
> >>shit !
> >>
> >>Matrox always cheat in benchmarks !
And ATI don't. I'm so glad.
> >>I would rather use ATI graphic boards that are, according to me, really
> >>boosting 2D, video and 3D on our PCs !
opinion or actual tested fact?
> >Yeah right..that probably why ATI card are always giving compatibilty
> >problems for as long as I can remember...
Both Matrox cards are exceptionally good, but these days the performance of most 2D
accelerator cards is so close in the real world that you should just go for whichever one
takes your fancy. And don't ever believe company benchmarks (ATI is just as guilty of
producing misleading benchmarks as every other computer company whatever they make).
Ian
Tom Pancoast
"Don Hollenback" <D...@Cyberdude.com> wrote:
>I guess I don't know what I'm missing! I've got the Mystique with 4 meg
>and it runs 3D games perfectly (TombRaider especially) no clipping, no
>compatability problems and smooooth! At $149 with 4 megs, it's a good
>deal.
Well, it is the third best 3D card, and if 2D performance is more important
than 3D, than it probably beats the verite cards and moves into second place.
On the other hand, if both 2D and 3D are important, than the 3DFX is his best
choice, when he is ready for 3D, and he might as well get the Millennium right
now.
----------------------------------------
tpan...@pobox.com (Tom Pancoast)
Remove "KaKa." from the address to reply
"An object at rest cannot be stopped!"
Mark McQuaide
Actually, there's nothing wrong with the 2D performance of a Canopus card.
Amorphous <sw...@iafrica.com> wrote in article
<01bc688b$3ad1c4a0$531f07c4@Pswan>...
David
Does anyone know of a utility that allows you to print
a windows Help file in one shot. As opposed to
printing each topic one by one.
Thanks.
Ken Rice
In article <5m9hlg$f...@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>, schr...@ix.netcom.com
says...
>Does anyone know of a utility that allows you to print
>a windows Help file in one shot. As opposed to
>printing each topic one by one.
Visit http://www.microsoft.com where you should be able to find a program
called MS Help Author. MS may have a later version as I got this one 4 years
ago. Here is the readme file for the program.
MICROSOFT HELP AUTHOR
---------------------
Microsoft Help Author is an enhancement utility that makes it easier to
create Help files for Windows version 3.0 and 3.1. Help Author provides
a way to do the most common Help tasks quickly and easily. Help Author
divides the authoring process into two feature sets: the Help Project
Editor and the Help Authoring Templates.
The Help Project Editor makes it easy for you to:
* Create and edit Help project files.
* Add topic files to the project.
* Define and edit project file information.
* Compile Help files from Windows.
* Display error messages resulting during the build.
* View the built Help file.
The Help Authoring Templates modify Word for Windows so that you
can easily:
* Create and edit topic files.
* Insert and edit topics, graphics, and hot spots.
* Format topic text and graphics.
* Save topic files in RTF format.
* View partial topic builds in Windows Help.
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
-------------------
To use Help Author, you need Windows version 3.0 or 3.1. Word for
Windows version 1.1 or 2.0 is highly recommended. If you do not have
Word for Windows, please read the section on Using the Help Project
Editor Without Word for Windows on how to proceed.
INSTALLING HELP AUTHOR
----------------------
To install Help Author on your hard disk, insert the Microsoft Help
Author Setup Disk in drive A. Then follow these steps:
1. From the File menu in Program Manager, choose Run.
The Run dialog box prompts you for a path and filename.
2. Type a:\setup.exe and choose OK.
The Welcome dialog box prompts you to select the authoring tool sets to
install. The default selection is to install both the Help Project
Editor and the Help Authoring Templates.
3. Choose Continue. Or, if you do not want to install one of the tool
sets, clear its check box and then choose Continue.
If you selected the Help Project Editor check box, you are prompted for
the directory where it will be installed. The default path is C:\WHPE.
4. Choose Continue to accept the default directory. Or to install the
Help Project Editor in a different directory, use the BACKSPACE key to
erase the current directory and type a new directory and path in the
text box. Then choose Continue.
If you selected the Help Authoring Templates check box, you are prompted
to enter the path for Word for Windows. If you don't have a copy of Word
for Windows on your hard drive, you may not install the Help Authoring
Templates. In this case, please read the section on Using the Help
Project Editor Without Word for Windows on how to proceed.
Help Author supports Microsoft Word for Windows versions 1.1 and 2.0.
The setup program will install the correct templates, depending on which
version of Word for Windows it finds in the directory you specify for
it. The version 1.1 Word for Windows templates do not have the toolbar
icons but do have the same keyboard equivalents as the version 2.0
templates. If you upgrade from Word for Windows 1.1 to 2.0, you must
reinstall the Help Authoring Templates.
5. Ensure that the directory given in the text box is the one where you
installed Word for Windows, and choose Continue. If the given directory
does not contain Word for Windows, use the BACKSPACE key to erase the
current path. Then type a new directory and path in the text box, and
then choose Continue.
The setup program copies files and then creates a group in Program
Manager for Help Author. A dialog box informs you that the installation
is complete. Or, if necessary, a dialog box prompts you to restart
Windows to complete the installation. In that case, choose Exit to quit
the setup program and restart Windows. After Windows restarts, you can
begin using Help Author.
GETTING STARTED
---------------
After you have installed the files on your hard drive, you can begin
using Help Author. To use Help Author you simply choose menu commands
and complete the dialog box options. Each option corresponds to a
specific part of the authoring process. Although there is no fixed
method for using Help Author, you can follow these general steps to get
started.
1. Open the Help Author group in Program Manager and double-click the
Help Project Editor icon.
2. Enter project information. (Edit Project command)
3. Add topic files to the project. (Add New or Existing File command)
4. Edit the topic files (add text, graphics, etc.) to create the content
for the Help file. (Edit File command)
Note: Because Windows Help version 3.0 and 3.1 differ considerably,
Microsoft provides a separate template for each version. If you plan to
create a Help system that runs under Windows Help version 3.1, use the
3.1 template (WHAT31.DOT). Otherwise, use the 3.0 template (WHAT30.DOT)
as the authoring template.
5. Save the topic files and close your editor. The Help Authoring
Templates will always save your documents in Rich Text Format (RTF).
6. Define the Help build options. (Edit menu commands)
7. Save the Help project file. (Save or Save As command)
8. Build the Help file. (Start command)
9. View the built Help file. (Run Help On command)
10. Fix errors and make revisions, then rebuild the Help file.
LEARNING HOW TO USE HELP AUTHOR
-------------------------------
Both the Help Project Editor and the Help Authoring Templates have Help
files that explain how to use their features. To learn how to use the
Help Project Editor:
1. Choose the menu command you want to learn about.
2. When the dialog box appears, choose the Help button.
You can also choose Contents from the Help menu in the Project Editor
window (or press F1) and choose a topic from the Contents.
To learn how to use the authoring templates in Word for Windows 2.0:
1. Open or create a topic file based on a help authoring template.
2. From the Help menu in Word for Windows, choose the Help on WHAT
command.
3. Then choose a topic from the Contents.
If you are using the Help Authoring Templates with Word for Windows 1.1,
then open the Help Author group in Program Manager, and double-click the
Help on WHAT icon.
USING THE HELP PROJECT EDITOR WITHOUT WORD FOR WINDOWS
------------------------------------------------------
If you do not have Microsoft Word for Windows, you may still use the
Help Project Editor with any other editor which supports Rich Text
Format (RTF). You may also use it with any text editor, such as
Notepad, and edit your RTF by hand.
To install Help Author when you do not have Word for Windows, insert the
Microsoft Help Author Setup Disk in drive A. Then follow these steps:
1. From the File menu in Program Manager, choose Run.
The Run dialog box prompts you for a path and filename.
2. Type a:\setup.exe and choose OK.
The Welcome dialog box prompts you to select the authoring tool sets to
install. The default selection is to install both the Help Project
Editor and the Help Authoring Templates.
3. Clear the checkbox for the Windows Help Authoring Templates, and
choose Continue.
You are prompted for the directory where the Help Project Editor will be
installed. The default path is C:\WHPE.
4. Choose Continue to accept the default directory. Or to install the
Help Project Editor in a different directory, use the BACKSPACE key to
erase the current directory and type a new directory and path in the
text box. Then choose Continue.
The setup program copies files and then creates a group in Program
Manager for Help Author. A dialog box informs you that the installation
is complete. Or, if necessary, a dialog box prompts you to restart
Windows to complete the installation. In that case, choose Exit to quit
the setup program and restart Windows. After Windows restarts, you can
begin using Help Author.
Now, follow the steps on Getting Started, listed above. On step 4, you
will be prompted to give the program with which you wish to edit your
RTF files. The default editor is NOTEPAD.EXE. Choose OK to edit your
RTF files with Notepad. Or use the BACKSPACE key to erase the default
editor and type a new editor in the text box. Or choose the Browse
button to select an editor from a list box.
--
Ken Rice
kr...@wizard.net
Bryan Ericson
Lance A. Larka wrote:
>
> I'm considering buying a P5-200/MMX computer that I plan on using
> primarily for game playing. I'm looking at two video cards, the matrox
> mystique with 4mb or the matrox millenium w/8mb.
>
> Which is better for games?
>
Well, I bought a Millennium (4 MB) 8 months ago, and I am convinced it
was
the best card I could have bought. But then again, my gaming tastes
run more towards Civ/MOO, where graphics are a secondary concern. My
primary use for my computer is graphical rendering. As far as I know,
the Mill. is not a good card for gaming as it does not support many of
the primary hardware accelerations, such as fogging and mip-mapping,
though it is excellent for more static graphics apps.
The Mystique, on the other hand, was designed specifically for games,
and it does have many of the hardware features found necessary for good
performance. However, it is crippled somewhat, because it does not
have ALL the accelerations that are considered 'necessary' by the
gaming community (I don't remember specifically which were left out).
The result is that games have to be written specifically for the
Mystique. Because the chipset on the Mystique is proprietary, there
will be very few games that support it.
My recommendation to you is this:
If you can afford it, buy a Millennium for your 2-D work, and a
dedicated 3-D card (such as Monster 3D) for your gaming. This is
probably the best solution. Since few of us are made of money, though,
you might want to look at another brand of graphics card before making
a final decision. Take a look on news://comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video
for some unbiased reviews of graphics accelerators.
Good luck,
Bry
Stephen Lansdell
Hi,
I have a Matrox Millennium with 4 Megs and it's the best video card i've
ever owned. It is flexible and compatible plus it has a number of addons
that can suite your needs! ATI video cards seems to have flaws in them I
have a friend with the PC2-Turbo PCI 4 meg and it's a real lousy card in
my opinion.
Stephen
Stephen Lansdell
Brian Cohen
Mark McQuaide wrote:
>
> Don't bother with either one unless you also want to add a 3DFX 3D card.
> Get a rendition-based card like the Canopus total 3D if you want to use
> only one PCI slot.
>
> Mark
>
Or, now, like I will do in the next few months, buy a Stingray 128/3D.
It uses a 128-bit Alliance ProMotion for 2D acceleration (actually, this
chip has some 3D accelerated functionality built in), along with the new
Voodoo Rush chipset. This allows you do 3D in a window, not just full
screen like the Voodoo Graphics, plus one PCI slot!!! It comes with 6
MB, 2 MB of which is purely for the Rush's texture mapping.
--brian
bco...@casc.com
James Leonard
On Thu, 29 May 1997 09:07:57 -0400, Brian Cohen <bco...@casc.com>
wrote:
Of course, by the time the StingRay is out, it could be made obsolete
by the new AGP standards. Whats 2MB for texture mapping compared to
8MB or more of cheap M/B memory?
Ed Kloskowski
WWW.OGR.COM has a reveiw of the MYSTIQUE out now and it does some
fleeting comparisons between the sibling cards. Millenium for Windows
and light 3-D, Mystique for middle of the road 3D and decent 2D
acceleration.
Ed K
In article <338D7F...@casc.com>, bco...@casc.com says...
James Leonard
>Mark McQuaide wrote:
>>
>> Don't bother with either one unless you also want to add a 3DFX 3D card.
>> Get a rendition-based card like the Canopus total 3D if you want to use
>> only one PCI slot.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>
>Or, now, like I will do in the next few months, buy a Stingray 128/3D.
>It uses a 128-bit Alliance ProMotion for 2D acceleration (actually, this
>chip has some 3D accelerated functionality built in), along with the new
>Voodoo Rush chipset. This allows you do 3D in a window, not just full
>screen like the Voodoo Graphics, plus one PCI slot!!! It comes with 6
>MB, 2 MB of which is purely for the Rush's texture mapping.
>
>--brian
>bco...@casc.com
Of course, by the time the StingRay is out, it could be made obsolete
Tyrone
Umm, the Stingray is already out. AGP is scheduled for fourth quarter
97. Probably not available til 98'. Won't be a good motherboard with AGP
for at least 3 months after it's release, plus the time for video card
manufacturers to make good cards, and Microsloth to release WIN98 (yea
I, know they call it 97, but don't hold your breath) with built in AGP
support. Be more than a year before it's worth thinking about upgrading
to AGP.
Haakon T. Soenderland
In article <338df89f....@news.ks.symbios.com>, james....@symbios.com says...
[snip]
> >Or, now, like I will do in the next few months, buy a Stingray 128/3D.
> Of course, by the time the StingRay is out, it could be made obsolete
> by the new AGP standards. Whats 2MB for texture mapping compared to
> 8MB or more of cheap M/B memory?
Of course, but the Stingray is already in the shops, even here in Norway.
Seems a bargain to me (if you need 3D that is).
Haakon
(Norway 4 - Brasil 2, I couldn't resist)
mike
TheyFlem wrote:
> =
> On Fri, 23 May 1997 09:40:42 GMT, arc...@hotmail.com (archeon) wrote:
> =
> >On Thu, 22 May 1997 22:47:52 +0200, "Pierre Lain=E9"
> ><pe...@club-internet.fr> wrote:
> >
> >>Hi Lance,
> >>
> >>I'll give you a piece of a good advice : forget about Matrox, it' 100=
% pure
> >>shit !
> >>
> >>Matrox always cheat in benchmarks !
> >>
> >>I would rather use ATI graphic boards that are, according to me, real=
ly
> >>boosting 2D, video and 3D on our PCs !
> >
> >Yeah right..that probably why ATI card are always giving compatibilty
> >problems for as long as I can remember...
> >
> >They are not as good as you may think...
> >check out this url if you need some proof :
> >
> >http://www.matrox.com/mgaweb/leadstor/proof.htm
> >
> >Oh, and BTW Lance, a millennium(II) and voodoo 3dFX combination really=
> >rocks!
> >
> >bye!
> >
> >archie
> =
> Yes that's right go to the *Matrox* site for "proof" that a *Matrox*
> card is the best one to buy.
> Which version of reality are you using?
> =
> --
> Flem.
I looked at the site, and checked out the pictures. Wonder why neither
card can draw a straight fence...
Margo Romberg
On 25 May 1997 14:17:20 GMT, schr...@ix.netcom.com(David) wrote:
>Does anyone know of a utility that allows you to print
>a windows Help file in one shot. As opposed to
>printing each topic one by one.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
There is an application called "smartdoc" (from Oakley Data Services)
that does this. Go to
http://www.smartcode.com
and download a trial copy. I ahve been using it for a few weeks and
it does the job very nicely.
Hope this helps.