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Dallas

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Jul 19, 2011, 12:56:18 PM7/19/11
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Just a refresher, your camera's memory card acts just like a windows drive
when placed in a USB card reader?

You can view/delete images on the card as if they were on a hard drive?

Remind me again what camera you are using, a Canon?

Are all camera memory cards like this?

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Jules Giscard D'estaing

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Jul 19, 2011, 1:27:17 PM7/19/11
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You got it in one. All Memory cards act as an external hard drive.

Some cards (like Sony) are proprietary. Others are generic and
will work in most cameras.

You can get an external 'card reader' or an internal 'card reader'
(last price was about $ 10.00)

Push the card in, Windows detects it, and asks if you want
to import the pics.

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Ignorance is curable. Stupidity is forever.
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(PS: Don't feed the TROLL.

stevem

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Jul 19, 2011, 1:37:03 PM7/19/11
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"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Generally, camera manufacturers recommend you don't delete files while using
the PC, but use the camera's delete function (slower, since usually you can
delete only one image, or all), but it's probably safer to abide by their
recommendation, so as to avoid any danger of screwing the card. If anything
goes wrong, you'd need to format the card in the camera. I've never had any
trouble with my Canon, but I believe Nikon do something slightly different
with their cards (sufficiently so that usually you can't read a card
formatted in a Nikon in a different make of camera). Normally, I just use
copy and paste to get the images onto the hard drive, and then work on them
from there - only takes a couple of minutes with a USB2 reader.

Steve.


John Ward

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Jul 19, 2011, 3:15:39 PM7/19/11
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Hi Varmit,

On my cheap little camera, I just run a USB lead direct from it to the
PC, and, after powering on the camera, can then view, transfer, copy,
delete, etc, at will. mate......

Regards,
John Ward

"Dallas" wrote in message
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Just a refresher, your camera's memory card acts just like a windows drive

Greasy Rider

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Jul 19, 2011, 3:52:53 PM7/19/11
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I have three Canon digital cameras. I simply pop out the SD card and
plug into my PC SD slot to transfer. I did discover that not all SD
cards are created equal. In very small font is a number that refers to
the read/write speed of the card. The lower the number the slower your
camera will be in between shots as it stores. Most SD chips on the shelf
are 4's or less. You will be pleasantly surprised at a 6 , 8 or 10 but
the cost goes up.

Greasy

Iain Smith

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Jul 19, 2011, 3:52:38 PM7/19/11
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I once deleted some pics from the card via the PC and thereafter the
card was useless. I couldn't even format it in the card reader or in the
Fuji camera.

Deleting using the camera's facility with the card in the camera has
proved trouble free.

Iain
Rugby, UK

Dallas

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Jul 19, 2011, 8:24:04 PM7/19/11
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John Ward wrote:

> On my cheap little camera, I just run a USB lead direct from it to
> the PC, and, after powering on the camera, can then view, transfer,
> copy, delete, etc, at will. mate......

Yeah... my little Canon hooks up that way too... but, it's a pain in
the ass. It takes a long time to boot the software, then if you have
a lot of images on the card, the software takes a long time to sort
through them before it decides to present you with the option to
download them.

I liked the idea of just plug and play with the card.

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Dallas

Dallas

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Jul 19, 2011, 8:25:01 PM7/19/11
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Iain Smith wrote:

> I once deleted some pics from the card via the PC and thereafter the
> card was useless.

That's not promising... I kinda thought a format could clean up any CF
card.. :-/

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Dallas

Dallas

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Jul 19, 2011, 8:25:49 PM7/19/11
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Greasy Rider wrote:

> I have three Canon digital cameras. I simply pop out the SD card and
> plug into my PC SD slot to transfer.

Have you tried to delete images off the card using the PC?

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Dallas

The Old Bloke

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Jul 19, 2011, 8:55:56 PM7/19/11
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:56:18 -0500, Dallas
<Cybnorm@spam_me_not.hotmail.com> wrote:

We have Sony and Canon, compacts and DSLR, cameras. We always
reformat in the camera, but all other file actions are in a USB
reader. We have SD, microSD, CF and Sony proprietary cards. Never a
problem.

Regards
Doug

Gregory

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Jul 19, 2011, 9:06:47 PM7/19/11
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:56:18 -0500, Dallas
<Cybnorm@spam_me_not.hotmail.com> wrote:

Umm.. let's check.

Yep.. plugging the USB cable into the camera, then into the PC brings
up the camera in File Explorer as: "Canon PowerShot SX230 HS"

It also says "5.10 GB free of 7.39 GB."

I can pop open the folders on the camera device in Windows, which are
named 105_0704 to 113_0717, where 0704 means July 4th and 0717
means last Sunday. 105 and 113 are prefixes and could mean.... what?
# of pics?

I Normally use the included utility "Canon Camera Window" to transfer
the JPG images. It works great and automatically imports pics (at the
click of a button) into pre-named folders in My Pictures such as
2011_07_17 for example. Closing the CCW starts Canon Map Utility which
is the GPS/Google shell. You must delete the files from the camera
using another function in the software as it only COPIES them to the
PC. It is quite fail safe. Also included is "ZoomBrowser" and "Canon
PhotoStitch" software.

The memory module is an 8 GB SanDisk Ultra 15 MB/s. Looks like it
has a (4) inside a circle on the front. It wasn't the cheapest, but
not the best either.


-G

ManhattanMan

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Jul 19, 2011, 10:10:53 PM7/19/11
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Weird. My Kodak DC-260, circa last century, was no problem with a card
reader - do whatever.......... A whooping 32MB card was damn near $100,
for a equally whooping 1 MP camera, that I never once used at full
resolution, and never had a memory problem, or a bad picture. Go
figure.............

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MnM

Greasy Rider

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Jul 20, 2011, 5:01:56 AM7/20/11
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On 7/19/2011 20:25, Dallas wrote:

> Have you tried to delete images off the card using the PC?

Every time I dump the images to my PC I do an erase/delete to clean the
card for it's next duty. That way I know the card is clean. It's simply
just another memory device.

Greasy

RandyL AT DOT

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Jul 20, 2011, 7:36:38 AM7/20/11
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Hi Dallas,
I have a Canon SX30 , an Olympus E-10, and an old Sony digital camera. I
have always simply removed the memory cards from the cameras, and plugged
the cards into an external card reader on my computer to transfer pictures.
I have never had any problems doing it that way, and I found that it is much
faster and easier. Take care.

Randy L.

-- "When making an emergency off-field landing at night,
turn on the landing light just prior to touchdown.
If you don't like what you see, then turn off the landing light."

"Dallas" wrote in message
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Just a refresher, your camera's memory card acts just like a windows drive

Iain Smith

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Jul 21, 2011, 7:58:08 AM7/21/11
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On reflection Dallas, it could be that the card reader I was using at
the time did have an unreliable contact, which may have caused the
problem. I now have a different PC with a built in reader but I haven't
tried deleting or formatting through that. Judging by the response of
others it's probably ok.

Iain
Rugby, UK

Gregory

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Jul 21, 2011, 8:30:03 AM7/21/11
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I'd say it's far easier to connect the Canons to the PC via the
included USB cable and use the Canon software. Earlier this year I
went [to a local techie store] and bought a USB to SD gadget for $20
because the old portable PC had slow USB ports. Popping out the
memory chip each time is a bother, and I believe there's a risk of
mishandling.

Didn't your Canon cameras come with a software CD or DVD?


-G


mdavis

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Jul 21, 2011, 1:12:31 PM7/21/11
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There are two potential bottlenecks on transfer speed:

1) The speed rating of your SD or CF card
2) The speed capability of your transfer device

If you use high speed cards and a high speed card reader, you get
maximum transfer speeds. If either one is below the maximum speed of
the other, you are at the mercy of the slower component. Lexar has a
professional card reader that is about as fast as a USB 2.0 port can
handle but it is a waste if you are using slow cards. The on-board card
reader in most laptops is a cheap, slow port, so unless you upgrade to a
faster card reader, a fast card won't help you. The card speed also may
affect the performance of your camera in taking multiple exposures.

Greasy Rider

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Jul 21, 2011, 4:01:49 PM7/21/11
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On 7/21/2011 08:30, Gregory wrote:

> Didn't your Canon cameras come with a software CD or DVD?

Yes. Tried once and found them awkward and practically useless. I use
Windows Explorer to off load and format for the next usage. I have photo
editing software that I mush prefer to the Canon offerings. I did save
Stitch for occasional use.


Greasy

Greasy Rider

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Jul 21, 2011, 4:04:44 PM7/21/11
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On 7/21/2011 13:12, mdavis wrote:

> The card speed also may affect the performance of your camera in taking multiple exposures.

....and that is where the money is well spent rather than having to wait
and perhaps missing a shot while the camera ever so slowly stores the
image. 6 and 8s are well worth the money for my style of photography
(aviation and motorcycle racing).


Greasy

Dallas

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Jul 26, 2011, 11:25:06 PM7/26/11
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Gregory <flights...@bkwds.comcast.net> wrote:

> Didn't your Canon cameras come with a software CD or DVD?

Wanna hear something sad?... I've been so busy that I haven't installed the
new camera's software, read the manual past the 8th page or even shopped
for a CF card for it.

~~ I long for one of Waypoint's "boring Sundays"


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