OT: Google Earth doesn't have this data?

[Gregory]

Yes.. been posting a lot lately, and aware of it. Better that drinking
huh? or... go have a few belts.. would you!!


Trip Pics

Looking at the 100's of trip pics, I see the one below. It was taken
in southwest Utah on I-15. It's the fastest posted speed limit I've
ever seen in the US, and the fastest I've ever run in 'cruise mode.'

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/5786ft_85mph.jpg


The airport nearby (on the GPS screen) appears to be Cedar City Muni.
Wonder what Sam would think about cruising a mile high and 85 MPH?


Find that Location

To find where that pic was taken, I looked for a map database online
that Speed Limit with various color codes. Google must have this data
because Google Maps knows how long it will take to get from Point-A to
Point-B during a trip, but GE doesn't `display´ highways color coded
vs speed limits.


Data Displayed

There IS a website that displays SL's, and I was able to find the
section of Interstate in Utah with posted 80 MPH speeds.

See maps as follows..

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/Utah_SL_1.png


http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/Utah_SL_2.png (zoom in)


Big deal! you say? well look at the speed limits in Europe were 80
MPH is common, especially in France. Now see Germany which doesn't
have any limit!!

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/Europe_SL.png



-G

[WayPoint]

On 05-September-2013 11:56 PM, Gregory wrote:
>
> Yes.. been posting a lot lately, and aware of it. Better that drinking
> huh? or... go have a few belts.. would you!!
>

> Data Displayed
>
> There IS a website that displays SL's, and I was able to find the
> section of Interstate in Utah with posted 80 MPH speeds.
>
> See maps as follows..
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/Utah_SL_1.png
>
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/Utah_SL_2.png (zoom in)
>

85mph = 136 K/hr which way exceeds the legal speed limits in Australia.
Max speed limit in Au (AFAIK) is 110 K/hr = ~ 68mph

We would have the gendarme' in hot pursuit.

Is that typical of the speed limits in Merika?

[Nick O'Tyme at]

"WayPoint" <some...@over-the-rainbow.oz> wrote in message
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We do tend to be bombarded by the 'speed kills' mob in Oz. They never seem
to consider the nut behind the wheel.

Try driving in Germany. Tonking along at 160kph and someone goes past like
you are standing still.

[John Ward]

Hi Nick,

Not to mention what I OCCASIONALLY used to get up to in the Z, on some
of the flat, straight, treeless bits on the Warrego Hwy - 150+ mph.

Regards,
John Ward

"Nick O'Tyme" <mellorc(at)msn.com> wrote in message
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[WayPoint]

On 06-September-2013 8:05 PM, John Ward wrote:
> Hi Nick,
>
> Not to mention what I OCCASIONALLY used to get up to in the Z, on
> some of the flat, straight, treeless bits on the Warrego Hwy - 150+ mph.
>
> Regards,
> John Ward
>

Sounds like a couple of sections between Chinchilla & Dalby & Toowoomba.

The Z is barely idling at that speed. ;-)

[WayPoint]

On 06-September-2013 6:30 PM, Nick O'Tyme wrote:
>
> "WayPoint" <some...@over-the-rainbow.oz> wrote in message
> news:l0c2qa$svd$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>>

>> We would have the gendarme' in hot pursuit.
>>
>> Is that typical of the speed limits in Merika?
>>
>
> We do tend to be bombarded by the 'speed kills' mob in Oz. They never
> seem to consider the nut behind the wheel.
>
> Try driving in Germany. Tonking along at 160kph and someone goes past
> like you are standing still.
>
>

I have been rocketing along at 120kph (naughty boy, Graham) when a road
train over took me. :-/

[Gregory]

On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 18:12:59 +1000, WayPoint
<some...@over-the-rainbow.oz> wrote:

>85mph = 136 K/hr which way exceeds the legal speed limits in Australia.
>Max speed limit in Au (AFAIK) is 110 K/hr = ~ 68mph
>
>We would have the gendarme' in hot pursuit.
>
>Is that typical of the speed limits in Merika?

Well no, it's not typical at all. It's the fasted 'posted' I've ever
seen in USA. That was the purpose of searching for a color-coded
map of highway speeds.

You'll notice in the PNGs.. most of the USA highways are grayed out.

Garmin certainly has speed limit data in their map 'load'.. obviously,
but GE cannot yet present it. These laws or speed limits change from
time to time, so the database would need regular updating.


I've been able to locate where the photo was taken by mousing over
I-15 in GE and pinpointing 5,786' ALS. See below.. the map pin and
status bar elevations agree.

It sould be accurate within a hundred meters or so.. huh?

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/85mph_coords.png


A second map pin is added to find the relative gradient.


More fun with maps and Sat images! :)


-G

[Copter_Six]

On 9/6/2013 5:05 AM, John Ward wrote:
> Hi Nick,
>
> Not to mention what I OCCASIONALLY used to get up to in the Z, on
> some of the flat, straight, treeless bits on the Warrego Hwy - 150+ mph.
>
> Regards,
> John Ward

My Z had a governor that cut the gas at 147mph. Running with a BMW
enroute Bonn for over an hour and he couldn't catch me.

--

Copter Six

[Gregory]

Now that's "flying".. umm well not quite. You'd have to be at some
elevation! like 4 or 5,000' ASL. :))


Here's another useful ground transportation map. It's called the Gas
Buddy "USA Gas Price Heat Map."

http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx


Go ahead and zoom in to DFW and you'll see dark red gas station
objects (that's petrol stations for the Brits.) Click one of them for
the station details.

I used this data in LA County to find Union 76 stations and selected
the ones with the lowest price. Out west I'd put in Conoco fuel.

http://www.losangelesgasprices.com/map_gas_prices.aspx

You could just as well use: http://www.texasgasprices.com/

or http://www.virginiagasprices.com/


or for Canada: http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_can_gastemperaturemap.aspx


-G

[John Ward]

Hi Downloader,

Just to be sure we're talking about the same thing, mine is the 300 ZX,
not the earlier 300......

Standard, its supposed to do ~ 150 mph, but this one is "chipped", so
it's supposed to do close to 180 mph - not that I'll ever testing that out
fully, mate!! :-))

Regards,
John Ward

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[Copter_Six]

Mine was a 300ZX turbo. When the turbo kicked in it put you back in
your seat. While I was in the States my wife was driving in Stuttgart
when the engine caught fire. It went up quick....



--

Copter Six

[Iain Smith]

On 07/09/2013 22:17, Gregory wrote:
> Go ahead and zoom in to DFW and you'll see dark red gas station
> objects (that's petrol stations for the Brits.)

Yes we know - we're aware of the world around us! :-))

Iain
Rugby, UK

[donbutts]

On 06-September-2013 8:05 PM, John Ward wrote:
> Hi Nick,
>
> Not to mention what I OCCASIONALLY used to get up to in the Z, on
> some of the flat, straight, treeless bits on the Warrego Hwy - 150+ mph.
>
> Regards,
> John Ward
>

Mr Ward - could you give me a time. date and place for my notebook entry
please
TIA

PC Butts

[Chris Curtis]

I like US gas stations!
You can set the pump to deliver and walk away unlike over here where I
suspect some faceless bureaucrat has deemed it to be a Health & Safety
issue.
I also like the window cleaning facilities!
But I'm now less impressed with the payment facilities since the pumps
now expect a zip code (instead of our pin numbers). This makes for a
number of journeys to and from the kiosk!

--
Chris
Milton Keynes, England

[Gregory]

Yes.. and how about aluminum vs aluminium? What is a hamburger (pork)
vs a beef burger? and who is Dannyboy? :)


-G

[Gregory]

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 12:17:23 +0100, Chris Curtis <ch...@nospam.net>
wrote:

>I like US gas stations!
>You can set the pump to deliver and walk away unlike over here where I
>suspect some faceless bureaucrat has deemed it to be a Health & Safety issue.
>I also like the window cleaning facilities!

These features aren't as well kept today.. since millions of 2nd and
3rd world foreigners have taken American jobs. Just 10 or 20 years
ago, an attendant would fill-up your tank.

>But I'm now less impressed with the payment facilities since the pumps
>now expect a zip code (instead of our pin numbers). This makes for a
>number of journeys to and from the kiosk!

At first I though entering a ZIP code was to verify you credit card
was in fact your account. It may be more sinister though, having to
do with interstate commerce and admiralty jurisdiction.

Use or add other search terms on this one..
www.google.com/search?as_q=zip+code+jurisdiction

Citizens don't do their homework or read anymore, instead getting
their controlled information from the mass media.. which is designed
to mis/disinform the enemy. Enemy combatant is a broad term, so
watch your step! You don't want to dishonor the contract that you've
unwittingly agreed to. << important statement :))


-G

[John Ward]

Hi Butts,

No worries, mate, I'll get right onto it.

Oh, wait - all of a sudden my memory seems to be struggling a bit! :-))

I guess that page will have to remain incomplete.

Regards,
John Ward

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[WayPoint]

On 16-September-2013 4:42 AM, John Ward wrote:
> Hi Butts,
>
> No worries, mate, I'll get right onto it.
>
> Oh, wait - all of a sudden my memory seems to be struggling a bit!
> :-))
>
> I guess that page will have to remain incomplete.
>
> Regards,
> John Ward
>
> "donbutts" <donneybutts...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:l13v18$5i2$1...@dont-email.me...
>> On 06-September-2013 8:05 PM, John Ward wrote:
>>> Hi Nick,
>>>
>>> Not to mention what I OCCASIONALLY used to get up to in the Z, on
>>> some of the flat, straight, treeless bits on the Warrego Hwy - 150+ mph.
>>>

mph ?? Yikes.

Thats V2 for a 747.

[John Ward]

Hi WayPoint,

Well, luckily it wasn't even close to V1 for me! :-))

The Z just sat on the road like a brick, mate - beautiful.

Regards,
John Ward

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[WayPoint]

On 16-September-2013 8:52 AM, John Ward wrote:
> Hi WayPoint,
>
> Well, luckily it wasn't even close to V1 for me! :-))
>
> The Z just sat on the road like a brick, mate - beautiful.
>
> Regards,
> John Ward
>
> "WayPoint" <some...@over-the-rainbow.oz> wrote in message
> news:l15dbh$4o7$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

Glad it did. The Warrego Highway is a POS. :-/

[John Ward]

Hi WayPoint,

True, mate - that's why we were there.

We were supposed to spend ~ four years finally fixing it properly, and
even that would have only lasted ~ 10 years with the number of B-Doubles and
B-Triples, plus all the other assorted traffic that use it these days cf
when it was first built...

But the whole thing got severely chopped back, as a cost cutting measure
by the previous Government, and I left.

Pretty futile, and also dangerous, considering that the traffic re the
Coal Seam Gas fields was increasing massively at the time......

We're actually getting a bit of rain here in Brissie today -
YYEEEHHAAWWW!!

Regards,
John Ward

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[ManhattanMan]

On 9/15/2013 5:52 PM, John Ward wrote:
>
> Well, luckily it wasn't even close to V1 for me! :-))
>
> The Z just sat on the road like a brick, mate - beautiful.

Best I ever did was 140 mph in a '68 (or '69? first year for the model
update) vette, 427ci w/single 4 barrel, smooooothest tranny ever, and
that's all I got to say good about that POS car. Worst quality control
record of any GM product at the time, and it showed. Only did it once,
2:00 a.m. on a country highway, and after seeing telephone poles going
by like fence posts, said - ok, that's nice... But, it was a girl
magnet! :))

Little later had a '72 Mercedes 350SL that actually had in the owners
manual, that after the initial first one or two thousand miles (hey, it
was 45 years ago!), to take it out and put the pedal to the metal for
about ten minutes to settle things in. I always thought that would be
neat to show a cop... :))

--
MnM

[WayPoint]

On 16-September-2013 9:34 AM, John Ward wrote:
> Hi WayPoint,
>

> True, mate - that's why we were there.
>
> We were supposed to spend ~ four years finally fixing it properly,
> and even that would have only lasted ~ 10 years with the number of
> B-Doubles and B-Triples, plus all the other assorted traffic that use it
> these days cf when it was first built...
>
> But the whole thing got severely chopped back, as a cost cutting
> measure by the previous Government, and I left.
>

Our illustrious bi-polar Premier Newman has a lot to answer for re cost
cutting in the roads, health funding services et al ....

And the little prick votes himself a salary increase equivalent to the
president of the united states of merika. :-/
Nice to know where his priorities really are and who matters most -
when's the next state election?? He's a marked man dammit!!!

> Pretty futile, and also dangerous, considering that the traffic re
> the Coal Seam Gas fields was increasing massively at the time......
>

And the traffic volume is set to increase over the next several years,
so any repair works are just band-aid measures.

> We're actually getting a bit of rain here in Brissie today -
> YYEEEHHAAWWW!!

Good news. Bugger all out here. Just a high level overcast & gusty winds.

[WayPoint]

They'd have to catch you first. :-)

[nm...@wt.net]

On Sunday, September 15, 2013 6:35:51 PM UTC-5, ManhattanMan wrote:

> Best I ever did was 140 mph in a '68 (or '69? first year for the model
>
> update) vette, 427ci w/single 4 barrel, smooooothest tranny ever, and
>
> that's all I got to say good about that POS car.

Those old rat motors could get along fairly well. My first car
had a 396 in it. I probably got that thing up to nearly 130 or so..
It sounded great once you got to about 100 or so.. Kind of like a
stock car. And it had a decent second wind once you got going
that fast.

But for downright brute horsepower, I'd have to rate the 1970
Buick LeSabre coupe with the 455 as the king of our older car hill.
That was one bad motor.
And that's comparing it with the 396, the 389 pontiac, 440 Dodge,
472 Caddy, etc.. I tried most all the big blocks in various cars.
That Buick 455 would smoke em all. And be smooth doing it.
You could cruise at highway speeds and be barely off idle.
And running like that got pretty good mpg for a big engine in a
fairly large car.

Now? I run straight sixes in my old trucks, and a Corolla with a
four banger.. :(
My big engine, fast car days are pretty much kaput. Burns too
danged much gas.

[John Ward]

Hi WayPoint,

There are three levels of repair that can be done when replacing a
stretch of highway, and, of course, with the distances being so large in
Australia, combined with economic circumstances, the middle method is almost
always used, i.e. the middle level of cost.

This would apply even to brand new highways.

The middle level has a life expectancy of ~ 10 years, reduced
accordingly if the traffic is heavy, in both senses of the word.

Add in natural disasters, such as catastrophic flooding, which the
Warrego experienced two years in a row, and it becomes a never ending
rolling program of repair, Australia wide......

Regards,
John Ward

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[John Ward]

Hi ManhattanMan,

Those 350 SLs were nice, mate!!!!

I just wanted to see what the car would do, and whether the bloke I
bought it from was bullshitting me - he wasn't!

The Z's a 3 litre, V6, twin turbo, with Targa tops, and, as I've always
found with Datsuns/Nissans, everything is "just so", they have everything,
plus a few nifty extra surprises, and everything is just where you'd
want/expect it to be...

AFAIK Varmit's wife is pretty happy with the much later model Z that he
got her...

Regards,
John Ward

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[Gregory]

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 20:25:28 -0700 (PDT), nm...@wt.net wrote:

>But for downright brute horsepower, I'd have to rate the 1970
>Buick LeSabre coupe with the 455 as the king of our older car hill.
>That was one bad motor.

Me' dad was always been a Buick man. After retiring he would buy a new
LeSabre ever two years.. with automatic climate control. The best
Buick he ever had was a 1972 Skylark with 5.7 liter (350ci) V8 engine
and 350 Hydramatic transmission.

It was yellow with a tan vinyl roof just like the one below:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/1972_Buick_Skylark_Front.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/1972_Buick_Skylark_Rear.jpg

That Buick was VERY powerful for it's size and weight. One day he had
a serious ATF leak.. and took it to a long-time local transmission
shop where the guy pun in seals, screen, fluid and a SHIFT KIT. Wow..
did it ever run GREAT afterward!! Power and 'cracking' gear shifts..
and with excellent downshifts too.

My first Buick was an 1986 Riviera T-Type with digital monochrome GCC
or touch screen, driving it for 12 years.


http://www.popularmechanics.com/cm/popularmechanics/images/xo/buick-graphic-control-center-0513-de.jpg


http://www.oldcarbrochures.org/var/albums/NA/Buick/1986_Buick/1986-Buick-Riviera-Prestige-Brochure/1986%20Buick%20Riviera%20Prestige-04-05.jpg


I've had a 1997 Riviera for the past 15 years. It's another big GM
luxury coupe.. and has been across the USA twice in the past three
years - the "transcontinental travel equipment" or TTE, seen here
parked at hotel California earlier this summer.

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/Riviera_hotel_2013.jpg


Back in March, I did a thorough reconditioning and 'coating' of the
dual exhaust split with outlets.. a signature feature of the series.

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/Exhaust_paint_400.jpg


In the past few years.. new and upgraded front / rear motor mounts
were installed (red arrows) and now she idles a kitten!!

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/motor_mounts_97Riv.png


Another update was to the auto load leveling (airshock) system.. the
air pump / compressor see below on the deck rail with new hardware,
hoses, filter element and paint touch - rust proofing.

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/pump_reassemble.jpg


Last fall, I did a significant two-part engine wire harness update.
These are before and after photos of the left (driver side) harness
around the intake area.

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/harness_left_before.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/harness_left_end.jpg


The only way to go with a job like that is with 3M Super 88 tape in
3/4 and 1-1/2" widths.. seen here ordered from a wholesaler.

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/tape_vinyl.jpg


That's just a snapshot of the up-keep and restoration operations so
the TTE is ready to go anywhere in the USA. She's not a showpiece,
but a working gurl.


BTW does my ass look BIG is this photo? :))

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/97_Riv_rear_06.jpg



-G

[ManhattanMan]

On 9/15/2013 11:12 PM, John Ward wrote:
> Those 350 SLs were nice, mate!!!!

Actually it's the same as 450 SL - when it was introduced in '72 the US
version had the 4.5 liter engine, but the European had 3.5, and in those
days the model name was linked to the engine, so they all were 350 SL;
in 73 the Europeans got the 4.5 L, and then all were 450 SL.

I still have the window sticker framed on my office wall - would you
believe $11,600 USD? Drove it about two years, warranty & tires both
expired at the 10,000 mile mark (the 'good ole days' for longevity), and
due to the dollar/mark exchange going berserk, sold it back to the
dealer for $10,550 when not getting any luck from an ad!! Best deal I
ever got for auto ownership!! Only sold it cause I wanted an El Camino
to haul my dirt bike out in the boondocks...

Funny story: It was a gas hog and when I brought up the subject to the
service manager, I got 'Der Look & Attitude' that Mercedes owners DO NOT
bitch about gas mileage! You vill get vat you got, and you vill like
it!! Ya?? :)



--
MnM

[John Ward]

Hi ManhattanMan,

I'll bet one of those Mercs in really good condition would be worth a
motza now, as well as still being a real pleasure to get into!

Regards,
John Ward

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[John Ward]

Hi Gregory,

Geeze, that GCC must have seemed like space age stuff back in '72, mate!

Regards,
John Ward

"Gregory" <flights...@bkwds.comcast.net> wrote in message
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[Copter_Six]

Here is a google earth image from 987 feet agl. there are several
people in this image. Bet your life and pick them out.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e398/flightsim_usa/FSGoogle_Earth/987feetagl_zpsa2accc5e.jpg


--

Copter Six

[John Ward]

Q.E.D.

JW

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[Copter_Six]

Actually I shouldn't have included the lat/long. The AA's can go and
zoom in to find them. But any thinking person can look at the image
and tell it's impossible to tell a human from a mailbox when looking
down from 1000'.



--

Copter Six

[Gregory]

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 05:15:05 +1000, "John Ward" <jrm...@tpg.com.au>
wrote:

>Hi Gregory,
>
> Geeze, that GCC must have seemed like space age stuff back in '72, mate!
>
>Regards,

That came about after the merger of GM and Hughes Aircraft.

"In 1985, GM purchased Hughes Aircraft and merged it with Delco
Electronics to form Hughes Electronics Corporation, an independent
subsidiary."


Click or scroll down to the "7th Generation 1985-1993" on the page
below, which says that over 1.1 million Rivs were produced in total.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_Riviera


Here's my first Buick.. having driven up to the woods in Massachusetts
to VISIT MY DADDY!!

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/86_Riv_01.jpg


and the panel (dash board as they're called)

http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/86_Riv_03.jpg


Here's the latest concept version..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Buick_Riviera_Concept_at_Auto_Shanghai_2013.JPG



-G

[ManhattanMan]

Oh, you mean the one skinny dipping in her pool?? 8-0=

--
MnM

[John Ward]

Hi Gregory,

WOW - great photos, mate, all three of them!!

That concept car looks VERY slippery, and expensive, too.

In the first pic' though, what's all that funny looking white stuff
lying around? :-))

Regards,
John Ward

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[WayPoint]

and she has blue eyes. :-)~~

[Copter_Six]

You saw her????? Damn... you have good eyes....



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Copter Six

[donbutts]

> Funny story: It was a gas hog and when I brought up the subject to the
> service manager, I got 'Der Look & Attitude' that Mercedes owners DO NOT
> bitch about gas mileage! You vill get vat you got, and you vill like it!!
> Ya?? :)
>

ROLTFL Can imagine that. Funny down here those who consider themselves
upperclassish buy European such as Mercs and BMW's but talk to the
grass-root guys in the workshops and they say if you want reliability
together with with realistic parts pricing buy Jap.
I also recall wandering around one of our car auctions and getting
interested in a Beamer 320. I was friendly with the contract mechanical
inspector and he advised that of all the vehicles that passed through the
auctions BMW's proved to be the most unreliable.
Mind you that was 10 years ago.

Butts.

[Russ Tobin]

"John Ward" <jrm...@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
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> Q.E.D.
>
> JW
>

Questionable camera resolution. Questionable camera quality.

My eye is a million or more times better.

Real corker JW.

[ManhattanMan]

On 9/16/2013 6:35 PM, donbutts wrote:
> reliability together with with realistic parts pricing buy Jap.

Besides a RX-7 back in '82,which had the original rotary engine and was
so smooth overall it was like driving a sewing machine (only
transmission/clutch combo as smooth was the POS '68 vette), that's been
my only Japanese car. After a year or so I changed jobs, got a nice
company car which meant the RX would spend most of it's time sitting in
the garage, and begrudging sold it, still like new.

However, I've heard horror stories of parts prices on things like
Hondas, etc........

--
MnM

[ManhattanMan]

On 9/16/2013 5:28 PM, WayPoint wrote:

>>>
>>
>>
>> Oh, you mean the one skinny dipping in her pool?? 8-0=
>>
>
> and she has blue eyes. :-)~~

She has eyes??

--
MnM

[donbutts]

"ManhattanMan" wrote in message news:l1866c$1t3$1...@dont-email.me...

On 9/16/2013 6:35 PM, donbutts wrote:
> reliability together with with realistic parts pricing buy Jap.


> Besides a RX-7 back in '82,which had the original rotary engine and was so
> smooth overall it was like driving a sewing machine (only
> transmission/clutch combo as smooth was the POS '68 vette), that's been my
> only Japanese car.

Now that would chew up more gas than the Mercedes perhaps DrP
My son had one which was hard as knobs to ride in, went like a phantom jet
but spat out unburnt gas out the back on idle.

> However, I've heard horror stories of parts prices on things like Hondas,
> etc........

Over the years we have had continuous boatloads of used Jap vehicles
flooding the country including crate loads of motors, parts, mag wheels and
used tyres. Maybe we are talking a different market.
One of my friends has built a French House and had to buy a Renault to go
with it. Well he took me for a drive and at one stage as he planted the boot
the car coughed and surged to a stop. Only when he stepped on the gas. It
was eventually rectified.
Anyway he also went through drama with his previous BMW where at one stage
the computer was insisting it only had three cylinders.
JW and I both like Nissan products and I think the Maxima is a great example
of reliability and comfort.

Butts

[Copter_Six]

Another obvious lie.



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Copter Six

[Gregory]

On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:02:20 -0500, ManhattanMan <fly...@usa.gov>
wrote:

Whatever you guys are smoking..... I want some!! Lol Lol


-G

[Gregory]

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 06:35:53 +1000, "John Ward" <jrm...@tpg.com.au>
wrote:

>Hi Gregory,
>

> WOW - great photos, mate, all three of them!!
>
> That concept car looks VERY slippery, and expensive, too.
>
> In the first pic' though, what's all that funny looking white stuff lying around? :-))

Yeah well I'll have to say that GM cars (general movers) {manure} are
quite junky. You have to be an amateur or professional mechanic to
own one for any length of time. That wasn't so bad years ago. It's
planned obsolescence exploited and taken to the ultimate today!

The Riv is a 2-door coupe and it seems the demand (in terms of sales)
is or was low. If you ran a business, then you could LEASE one, and
turn it over in a few years before repairs start to set in.


That WHITE stuff, Mr John is snow! It falls in the winter from
roughly Thanksgiving (end of Nov) to late March (end of winter.)

Looking at the photo http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/86_Riv_01.jpg
down the street a bit and across the way.. on the classic New England
cape (the white house) is a wreath with a RED bow attached. That means
it Christmas time in New England.. between Thanksgiving and New Years.
We used to celebrate that entire season with family and friends and it
was very joyous.. that is until the Com'ies moved in CRUSHED America.
It's an ideological war between God and the Devil, and this is the
'democracy' that is being spread around the world!!

Now we have Black Friday, insane shopping stampedes to buy a bunch of
junk from China, hyped mass shootings, SALES ... DEALS... SPECIALS..
the GRINCH! An unbelievable stream of preposterous nonsense being
pushed.. all kinds of miserable rubbish! ... must snip this rant!!!


Damn it, you get me all worked up. :))))


-G

[ManhattanMan]

On 9/16/2013 8:14 PM, donbutts wrote:
> JW and I both like Nissan products and I think the Maxima is a great
> example of reliability and comfort.

My daughter is on her second Nissan Outlander and loves it...

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[donbutts]

"ManhattanMan" wrote in message news:l1a639$42p$1...@dont-email.me...

Talk about coincidence
My lady's Nissan Tiida (Versa) had an engine warning light come up yesterday
First prob since we've had it.
The Auto electrician stuck a computer on and said whoops leave it here
Turned out it was a sensor reading manifold data. Anyway it was there all
day and cost over $400 to replace the sensor
I naturally moaned but added, 'guess a BMW would cost a lot more'.
The guy threw his hands in the air and said 'don't mention European cars!'
Also had a chat some time ago at another workshop and I happened to mention
my mate having just bought a Renault.
Silence then.......... why?

:-)

Butts

[Gregory]

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 06:35:53 +1000, "John Ward" <jrm...@tpg.com.au>
wrote:

>Hi Gregory,
>

> WOW - great photos, mate, all three of them!!
>
> That concept car looks VERY slippery, and expensive, too.

John.. was doing some research on general styling, but haven't come
up with a chronology. Any history on these shapes and designs?

Here is the Aston Martin Vantage GT2..

http://www.tuningnews.net/news/080106/aston-martin-vantage-gt2-hr-03.jpg

And the GT2 that Allan Simonsen drove at Le Mans..

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Allan_Simonsen_-_Le_Mans_Journ%C3%A9e_Test_2012_-_Aston_Martin_Vantage_GT2.jpg

The Jaguar XK Coupe..

http://www.wallpapersgo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Jaguar-XK-Coupe-2010.jpg

The General Movers TTE.. aka: the White Shark, aka: the Torpedo Boat
http://home.comcast.net/~flightsim/White_Shark_in_2011.jpg

at 5 to 10x less cost. So is it a Jaguar Riviera, or a Riviera Jaguar?
The black Jag above is 13 years newer.

As for the side view, it doesn't have enough trunk space to be TTE,
but plenty of engine / front end, and a whopping window sticker!


http://carpaper.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/jaguar-xf-white.jpg


-G


p.s. yes.. cocky to make such comparisons.. but who'was on first?

[John Ward]

Hi Gregory,

I'm no expert at all on cars, mate, and my research skills aren't in the
same ball park as yours, so all I can add is that we get that Dream Car
Garage television show (American) here in Brisbane, and it regularly reviews
such cars......

I wouldn't swap my 300 ZX for any of them - its just the ants pants as
far as I'm concerned, and I can't see myself ever getting rid of. I realize
that's just personal preference...

"...but who'was on first?".

Yeah, and Watts was on second... :-)))

Regards,
John Ward



"Gregory" <flights...@bkwds.comcast.net> wrote in message

news:h54m391q6amtsdc80...@4ax.com...

[Gregory]

On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 04:19:07 +1000, "John Ward" <jrm...@tpg.com.au>
wrote:

>Hi Gregory,
>

> I'm no expert at all on cars, mate, and my research skills aren't in the
>same ball park as yours, so all I can add is that we get that Dream Car
>Garage television show (American) here in Brisbane, and it regularly reviews
>such cars......
>
> I wouldn't swap my 300 ZX for any of them - its just the ants pants as
>far as I'm concerned, and I can't see myself ever getting rid of. I realize
>that's just personal preference...
>

> "...but who'was on first?" Yeah, and Watts was on second... :-)))

Oh course he was. :)

Some corrections.. I wasn't looking at general styles, instead was
comparing larger 2-door luxury coups, and who copied, or was inspired
by who's design. How are the British designs similar? Also there's
no such moniker as White Shark. It was made-up out of thin air when
renaming the file. Torpedo Boat is the correct name for sure.


You know.. Simonsen was killed in the Aston Martin!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Simonsen_%28racing_driver%29

So... you be careful with HIGH SPEED in the Z. Even if strapped/belted
in, the sudden "stop" or deceleration can break your neck!

Here are some of the WORST racing crashes. Several of these guys were
killed and another guy lost both legs (t-bone Indy car crash at 00:35)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyhg20wfA4k


Ooooh.. and a Terrible crash in the UK!!! :))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5VVF8vj-nQ


-G

[WayPoint]

On 20-September-2013 7:12 AM, Gregory wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 04:19:07 +1000, "John Ward" <jrm...@tpg.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Gregory,
>>
>> I'm no expert at all on cars, mate, and my research skills aren't in the
>> same ball park as yours, so all I can add is that we get that Dream Car
>> Garage television show (American) here in Brisbane, and it regularly reviews
>> such cars......
>>
>> I wouldn't swap my 300 ZX for any of them - its just the ants pants as
>> far as I'm concerned, and I can't see myself ever getting rid of. I realize
>> that's just personal preference...
>>
>> "...but who'was on first?" Yeah, and Watts was on second... :-)))
>
> Oh course he was. :)
>
> Some corrections.. I wasn't looking at general styles, instead was
> comparing larger 2-door luxury coups, and who copied, or was inspired
> by who's design. How are the British designs similar? Also there's
> no such moniker as White Shark. It was made-up out of thin air when
> renaming the file. Torpedo Boat is the correct name for sure.
>
>
> You know.. Simonsen was killed in the Aston Martin!
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Simonsen_%28racing_driver%29
>
> So... you be careful with HIGH SPEED in the Z. Even if strapped/belted
> in, the sudden "stop" or deceleration can break your neck!
>

What happens when an unstoppable object (Datsun Z) hits an immovable
object (kangaroo) ;-)

[Walt_M]

On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:41:55 +1000, WayPoint
<some...@over-the-rainbow.oz> wrote:


> What happens when an unstoppable object (Datsun Z) hits an immovable
> object (kangaroo) ;-)

Shit.

[John Ward]

Hi WayPoint,

The Z might be lucky in that the kangaroo just made a bit of a mess of
the front spoiler, but didn't roll up or hit the windscreen.

I was lucky - I'd found a brilliant mechanic who looked after the Z if
it ever needed anything. even the blokes in the Z Car Club went to him after
I put them onto him if there was anything they couldn't solve.

His parents had died when he was fairly young, but he'd managed to do
well for himself. He gone and lived with Uncle Brian, had won, rather than
"inherited" a Cummins Diesel apprenticeship, topped the class, had then been
out on the oil rigs, worked the mines, etc, and when I met him, he was
working on big trucks.

He also worked on people's Zs at home, at Fernvale (out of town from
Brisbane), and had a wife Kylie and two kids just starting primary school.

He asked me what I thought, and eventually I persuaded him to start his
own specialist mechanic business in Brisbane.

It was going gangbusters, but just before last Xmas, Kylie had a heart
attack, and is still in a coma. He's had to close the business, look after
the kids, and still doesn't know whether Kylie is going to live or not.

I'd already paid him for a new moulded front spoiler, and for it to be
painted in a colour-matched pearl yellow, but until things might hopefully
clear up, the work hasn't been done yet. I've got my fingers crossed for
him!!

The only plus side is that since I've tidied up the front spoiler a bit
with a hacksaw, the Z's actually running a bit cooler - ~ 68* C (even though
it was already running cool at ~ 71* C, whereas Eric told me that many of
them run at ~80* C)

So, as Walt so eloquently states, s... happens...

Regards,
John Ward



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[Varmit]

donbutts wrote:

> I naturally moaned but added, 'guess a BMW would cost a lot more'.

Yup... I just spent $2,200 on mine. :- (


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