[First flight] Milan to Venice
fadeh
I made a flight plan VOR to VOR from LIMB to LIPZ (small airports near
Milan and Venice). It was a 1:20 flight and all went well ;)
When I was about 9nm from Venice I requested a vector approach to the
airport and I managed to bring the airplane to the ground. Oh it was a
Cessna C172SP Skyhawk (the only one I tried so far).
Just a question: is it possible to edit a FSX Missions in order to
change tha airplanes (just the cockpit) it gives to you? I tried the
Hawaii but I dont want to use the G1000 right now :\
fadeh
John Ward
Congratulations!
"...I managed to bring the airplane to the ground...".
That's inevitable, mate - it's the manner in which you accomplish it
that's vital!! :-))
Regards,
John Ward
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Tom Duhamel
> Not an hard one but kinda good anyway.
> I made a flight plan VOR to VOR from LIMB to LIPZ (small airports near
> Milan and Venice). It was a 1:20 flight and all went well ;)
> When I was about 9nm from Venice I requested a vector approach to the
> airport and I managed to bring the airplane to the ground.
Actually, no training or skill is needed to take an airplane to the
ground. Whatever happens, the airplane will inevitably end up on the
ground, sooner or later. Remember, a crash is a type of landing.
A good landing is one which you can walk away from.
A great landing, is one which you can walk away from and reuse the
aircraft afterward.
Taking it to the ground safely is what requires a lot of skills and
practice, and I'm assuming this one was a great landing :)
Although I've been flying the simulator for years (and particularly
intensely over the last few months) just a few days ago I posted about
one flight which I was particularly proud of. Keep practicing, going one
step at a time, taking each flight to a new level of challenge, and
eventually you will be proud of all of your flights :)
> Oh it was a
> Cessna C172SP Skyhawk (the only one I tried so far).
And you better stick to this one for a while. Only when you will feel
you've done everything you should move to something bigger. One step at
a time, like a baby :)
For my part, I'm flying a C182RG. The 182 is a model just slightly
bigger than the 172, with an engine just slightly more powerful, but is
a fixed-speed/variable-pitch propeller. Just this small addition makes
it a more difficult aircraft. The RG part in the name means it has
retractable gears (something that Cessna did not put on any small
aircraft since the 1980s because of recurrent problems, when compared to
comparable aircraft produced by other makers). This aircraft is a
payware from Carenado (my only payware, but the best $20 I have ever
spent online).
> Just a question: is it possible to edit a FSX Missions in order to
> change tha airplanes (just the cockpit) it gives to you? I tried the
> Hawaii but I dont want to use the G1000 right now :\
I'm using FS9 (not FSX), so my reply might not make sense at all, but in
FS9 you can still use the menu (by hitting Alt key) in a flight, and
from there you can change aircraft, weather, etc.
Tom :)
Danny
box "Allow Changes". It is located at the bottom of the mission page.
Obviously you can not change a helicopter to a Cessna and expect the mission
to work correctly, But any single or twin engine should work for any
mission that requires a single or twin engine, subject to altitude
requirements.
If you do put the check mark there, the mission will run the same way
using what ever plane you choose, BUT you will not receive the 'award'. But
having fun is more important consideration that an Award!
Danny
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boB - Copter6
>
> Although I've been flying the simulator for years (and particularly
> intensely over the last few months) just a few days ago I posted about
> one flight which I was particularly proud of. Keep practicing, going one
> step at a time, taking each flight to a new level of challenge, and
> eventually you will be proud of all of your flights :)
>
>
> Tom :)
Tom, I sometimes capture a flight in screen-caps and even though the old
guys have already seen some of these I will re-post some for the newer
guys. Actually it's been several years since I posted some of these so
others in the group may have not seen some.
This flight is typical of an evaluation I flew every year in a UH-1 to
maintain instrument currency.
http://www.flightsims.vze.com/ifr/uh1-ifr.jpg
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How nice, a flight ending in no injuries and no law suits :o)
One of the nice things in Flight Sim is, that you can modify any plane to
your liking, adding or removing realism. You can have a C-172 cockpit in a
Concorde, or a 777 cockpit on a Nimbus 2000 Broomstick :o)
First though, you might want to do a backup of your aircrafts before making
the modifications!!
Then you open the FS folder, and find the A/C that holds the cockpit you
like, find the panel and gauges folders, and copies them into the folder
holdeng the A/C you want to fly, overwriting the existing ones. Now you have
a totally unrealistic plane to fly :o)
Tinkering with the files in the FS folder can be fun or a nightmare,
depending on what you do, but once you get the hang of it, you can start
making funny planes and turn your FS into a cirkus, or just tweak your
planes to act a bit more like the real world, what ever you like :o)
But do make backups BEFORE starting to tweak stuff ;o)
Tommy C, Denmark
fadeh
> Hi fadeh,
> Congratulations!
>
> "...I managed to bring the airplane to the ground...".
>
> That's inevitable, mate - it's the manner in which you accomplish it
> that's vital!! :-))
It was a good landing, dont worry ;)
fadeh
fadeh
> Taking it to the ground safely is what requires a lot of skills and
> practice, and I'm assuming this one was a great landing :)
Ye, it was good ;)
I dont have much trouble with landings I can use ILS or PAPI, in optimal
weather condition or at least without wind, safety. The only problem is
that when I'm near the runway I tend to touch the ground a bit early..
near the beginning of the runway.
> Although I've been flying the simulator for years (and particularly
> intensely over the last few months) just a few days ago I posted about
> one flight which I was particularly proud of. Keep practicing, going one
> step at a time, taking each flight to a new level of challenge, and
> eventually you will be proud of all of your flights :)
Yeah, I read that thread and that's why I tried a free flight by myself ;)
[snip]
Thanx for your help and explanation, very well written and useful ;)
fadeh
fadeh
> If you do put the check mark there, the mission will run the same way
> using what ever plane you choose, BUT you will not receive the 'award'.
> But having fun is more important consideration that an Award!
> Danny
Roger that, I've totally missed that checkbox ;)
Thanx,
fadeh
fadeh
> But do make backups BEFORE starting to tweak stuff ;o)
Sure I will ;)
Thanx Tommy!
donbutts
>
> I follow this ng from one week now and I realized that we're spread among
> many countries (I'm a smart guy, I know :D): some are from US, Canada,
> Australia, Denmark and so on. I basicly came up with this idea: it would
> be cool if everyone (almost) would share a flight plan matching this
> criteria:
not a bad idea but 50% of us are using FS9.... if that's a problem.
I could do a flight plan for my area as it's absolutely fantastic to fly
about scenic wise but you other guys would be doing it in Microyuk default
textures... may as well try the Sahara desert.
:-(
Butts
NZ
donbutts
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Tom Duhamel
> Tom Duhamel ha scritto:
So I ha scritto'ed? :)
> The only problem is
> that when I'm near the runway I tend to touch the ground a bit early..
> near the beginning of the runway.
Do you mean, on the grass just prior to the runway? I tend to do that a
lot, so I need to aim for the numbers, not the very border of the
runway, and normally when I aim for the numbers I land on the tarmac. If
the runway is longer than necessary (which most runways are, when you
sit in a small aircraft) I often aim for a point which is way past the
numbers. Not sure if it's ok in the real thing, but I assume it does not
introduce any hazard, if you made sure the runway was a long one.
When I began to learn to fly in FS, I tended to land from too high,
taking a very abrupt slope (very high vertical speed). Obviously, my
landings were hard most of the time, and if it was a real aircraft the
passengers (now suffering pain in both the back and the ears) would make
sure to ask who the pilot was on their next flight and stay away from me :P
I've learned a lot since then, and I aim for a rate of descend of about
500 feet/min, which is good for passengers comfort (your internal ear
adapts fine to the change in air pressure when climbing or descending at
about 500 feet/min or less... over that I was told you could get a
headache) and it also gives a comfortable slope, giving you a good sight
over the runway and enough time to correct your heading/altitude/speed.
I don't hit the grass too often now, but even when I do it is still a
soft landing :)
> Thanx for your help and explanation, very well written and useful ;)
Thanks! For once, I'm the one who can share information. Most of the
time, on this group, I am the one asking questions. Those older guys (in
the sense of 'level of experience', not age... although they... well...)
are very knowledgeable and there isn't a question that is not replied
quickly and accurately.
Tom :)
fadeh
> fadeh wrote:
>> Tom Duhamel ha scritto:
>
> So I ha scritto'ed? :)
ehehe it means: wrote ;)
>> The only problem is that when I'm near the runway I tend to touch the
>> ground a bit early.. near the beginning of the runway.
>
> Do you mean, on the grass just prior to the runway? I tend to do that a
> lot, so I need to aim for the numbers, not the very border of the
> runway, and normally when I aim for the numbers I land on the tarmac. If
> the runway is longer than necessary (which most runways are, when you
> sit in a small aircraft) I often aim for a point which is way past the
> numbers. Not sure if it's ok in the real thing, but I assume it does not
> introduce any hazard, if you made sure the runway was a long one.
No, not that early ;)
I tend to touch the start of the runway like 5 to 10 meters away from
the border.
As you said, runway are almost long enough to a confortable approach but
when I'm near the runway the PAPI confuses me much cause I tend to
correct my course even when I'm really near the runway and I should
follow just what I see, my "instinct".
> I've learned a lot since then, and I aim for a rate of descend of about
> 500 feet/min, which is good for passengers comfort (your internal ear
> adapts fine to the change in air pressure when climbing or descending at
> about 500 feet/min or less... over that I was told you could get a
> headache) and it also gives a comfortable slope, giving you a good sight
> over the runway and enough time to correct your heading/altitude/speed.
Yeah, I aim to the same vertical speed or when I'm really slow I even
try a 300f/m... the hard part is to understand when begin to descend! I
usually try to follow the PAPI, I guess every airport is provided with
at least the PAPI system, am I right?
fadeh
Slap
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>
> Yeah, I aim to the same vertical speed or when I'm really slow I even try
> a 300f/m... the hard part is to understand when begin to descend! I
> usually try to follow the PAPI, I guess every airport is provided with at
> least the PAPI system, am I right?
>
Most I think. We have a lot of farmer type strips in Canada which you just
'eyeball' tho. You get good at it with practice.
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dave
boB - Copter6
>
> Yeah, I aim to the same vertical speed or when I'm really slow I even
> try a 300f/m... the hard part is to understand when begin to descend! I
> usually try to follow the PAPI, I guess every airport is provided with
> at least the PAPI system, am I right?
>
>
>
> fadeh
Forget vertical speed. It's not important. I could type for 30 minutes
talking about "aiming point" or "circle of action" or whatever, but some
googling tells it better than I can.
Go to
www.nmcap.org/safety/June08Safety.ppt
save the .ppt and watch the power point presentation. It has some good
visuals explaining a power on normal approach and maintaining the
approach angle. The VSI doesn't play a part, it's just another
instrument you include in your scan.
Power off approaches are different (eg engine failure). Read about
those later. :)
(Google "power point viewer" to get a free viewer if you don't have the
program.
fadeh
> Go to
>
> www.nmcap.org/safety/June08Safety.ppt
>
> save the .ppt and watch the power point presentation. It has some good
> visuals explaining a power on normal approach and maintaining the
> approach angle. The VSI doesn't play a part, it's just another
> instrument you include in your scan.
Wow, it seems a really good presentation, going to read it right now.
Thank you,
fadeh
fadeh
mistakes (many).
fadeh