[fw] Boeing 787 landed on Hong Kong Airport today

Man-wai Chang

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Oct 26, 2011, 10:37:08 AM10/26/11

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The HUD is interesting...

Is this the first civilian use of jet fighter HUD?

http://chinese.engadget.com/2011/10/26/first-ana-boeing-787-arrived-hong-kong-welcoming/

Ibby

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Oct 26, 2011, 12:28:13 PM10/26/11

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On Oct 26, 3:37 pm, Man-wai Chang <toylet.toy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The HUD is interesting...
>
> Is this the first civilian use of jet fighter HUD?
>

> http://chinese.engadget.com/2011/10/26/first-ana-boeing-787-arrived-h...

Gosh the HUD and the FMS are MASSIVE. The HUG to me looks dangerously
large and would intrude on peripheral vision unlike the 737 NG which
uses a smaller one. I like the ability to call up charts on the FMS

Ibby

NM5K

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Oct 26, 2011, 12:48:32 PM10/26/11

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Nope. The 737 NG has been using them for a good while, and also a few
other planes. With the Boeing, it's actually referred to as the "HGS".
It's not quite the same as the typical fighter HUD like you see in
the F-16's, FA/18's, etc..
The Boeing HGS more mimics the PFD, with a tad more info shown.
The 737 video I posted last night used it on approach. "Big D in HD".
http://imageshack.us/clip/my-videos/16/poz.mp4/
The 737NG HGS is almost exactly the same as the one on the 787.
And the one in the PMDG 737NGX in the video is pretty much a dead
ringer for the real deal.

NM5K

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Oct 26, 2011, 12:59:11 PM10/26/11

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That picture is an insert to show the drivers view.. It's not
actually that large in the cockpit, and will be directly in
front of the captain. But, with the 787, I think you can get
them with a HGS on both sides.. One for the F/O too..
I think anyway..

Man-wai Chang

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Oct 26, 2011, 1:17:11 PM10/26/11

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> Nope. The 737 NG has been using them for a good while, and also a few
> other planes. With the Boeing, it's actually referred to as the "HGS".
> It's not quite the same as the typical fighter HUD like you see in
> the F-16's, FA/18's, etc..
> The Boeing HGS more mimics the PFD, with a tad more info shown.
> The 737 video I posted last night used it on approach. "Big D in HD".
> http://imageshack.us/clip/my-videos/16/poz.mp4/

I googled "hud pfd hgs". First result: Avionics Handbook

Well... I am not ready to read on. :)

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Man-wai Chang

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Oct 26, 2011, 1:21:42 PM10/26/11

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> other planes. With the Boeing, it's actually referred to as the "HGS".
> It's not quite the same as the typical fighter HUD like you see in
> the F-16's, FA/18's, etc..
> The Boeing HGS more mimics the PFD, with a tad more info shown.

Does real life airplanes use this periscope like thing?

Upper left corner in the following picture:
http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig13/10134323t5.jpg

Something like the old bomb sights in WW2, but made retractable!

Tom Orle

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Oct 26, 2011, 1:55:44 PM10/26/11

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I couldn't find an interior view on that site.

But this German site, pix #6 shows the cockpit:
http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article13625997/Dreamliner-Das-modernste-Flugzeug-der-Welt.html

Doesn't seem so out of line to me.
I'd still like to know what the 2 humps to the right and left of the
throttles on the pedestal are for?

I saw them first on the A380:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/0957790/

At first I thought they might be hand rests to stabilize the hand for
entering data on a keypad right infront of the humps. But the 787
doesn't seem to have a keypad there.

-=tom=-

Vic Baron

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Oct 26, 2011, 4:28:00 PM10/26/11

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"Tom Orle" <xspam...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Ibby <ibb...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>On Oct 26, 3:37 pm, Man-wai Chang <toylet.toy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The HUD is interesting...
>>>
>>> Is this the first civilian use of jet fighter HUD?
>>>
>>> http://chinese.engadget.com/2011/10/26/first-ana-boeing-787-arrived-h...
>>
>>Gosh the HUD and the FMS are MASSIVE. The HUG to me looks dangerously
>>large and would intrude on peripheral vision unlike the 737 NG which
>>uses a smaller one. I like the ability to call up charts on the FMS
>>
>>Ibby
>
> I couldn't find an interior view on that site.
>
> But this German site, pix #6 shows the cockpit:
> http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article13625997/Dreamliner-Das-modernste-Flugzeug-der-Welt.html
>
> Doesn't seem so out of line to me.
> I'd still like to know what the 2 humps to the right and left of the
> throttles on the pedestal are for?

cup holders?

TOCA

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Oct 27, 2011, 11:16:23 AM10/27/11

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"Man-wai Chang" <toylet...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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It's not a periscope but a mix of night viewing goggles, HUD and argumentet
reality, the gunner of an Apache helicopter has a similar thing, but it only
covers one eye and is mounted on his helmet.

Charles Lindberg had a periscope in the Spirit of Saint Louis to have some
sort of view of what was in front of the plane.

Tommy C, Denmark

TOCA

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Oct 27, 2011, 11:20:44 AM10/27/11

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"Man-wai Chang" <toylet...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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>
> The HUD is interesting...
>
> Is this the first civilian use of jet fighter HUD?
>
> http://chinese.engadget.com/2011/10/26/first-ana-boeing-787-arrived-hong-kong-welcoming/

You can get a HUD in some luxury cars like BMW and Aston Martin, some just
shows instrument readings and some of the latest models interacts with a
UV/IR headlight showing obstacles normally invisible to the human eye in the
night.

Tommy C, Denmark