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External FPS limiter for FSX

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Iain Smith

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Dec 30, 2010, 8:54:40 AM12/30/10
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I downloaded this utility, unzipped it using Winrar and extracted the
files to a temporary folder. The instructions are non-existent so I ran
the exe file. There was a brief glimpse of a command window then nothing
and I see no evidence that I have installed it. If I run FSX I see only
the FS frame rate. What have I done wrong please guys?
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Danny

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Dec 30, 2010, 9:41:47 AM12/30/10
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Iain, you want to run the FPS_Limiter_GUI.jar FIRST. It will open an
'control panel' sort of. Set the frames to a realistic number and create a
bat file. I found some instructions once. I hunt them down and post my
success or failure.
Danny

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Danny

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Dec 30, 2010, 9:48:43 AM12/30/10
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I actually double clicked the jar file and it ran. Looks like some suggested
a different "Run With" approach.

some discussion here from March 2009.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?t=12617&page=1


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Danny

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Dec 30, 2010, 10:03:53 AM12/30/10
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"Iain Smith" < The instructions are non-existent....


Better instructions here:

http://cheyennepilot.wordpress.com/configuracion-fsx-fsx-setup/fsx-tuning/

scott s.

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Dec 30, 2010, 5:23:09 PM12/30/10
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Iain Smith <iaindotsmithdotrugby@btinternetdotcom> wrote in
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You either need to install the Java UI, or write a batch file that
invokes the limiter. It is a simple one liner:

start E:\"FltSimProgs\FSX\FPS_Limiter\"FPS_Limiter.exe /r:D3D9 /f:25
/x:OFF /l:OFF "E:\Flight Simulator X\fsx.exe

just replace the paths with correct one to FPS_Limiter.exe and fsx.exe
on your system. Mind the quote marks. The only thing to tweak is
the /f:25 parameter, which is where you set the fps you want the
limiter to set. Then in fsx go into settings and set frame limit
to unlimited. You can create a shortcut to the .bat file you
create. I don't know if it is necessary, but I have the shortcut set
to "run as administrator" and "disable desktop composition" in win 7.

When you start the batch file (at least on my system) it opens a
console window (aka DOS window) and waits while fsx starts up. When
you exit fsx (takes a while for fsx to completely stop) the console
window will give a "press any key" message after which when you do
press key the window closes (the "start" command in the batch file
causes windows to run the fps limiter in a separate process so when
fps limiter exits the batch process is still running in the console
and pressing the key causes the batch process to exit).

scott s.
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Iain Smith

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Dec 30, 2010, 5:37:41 PM12/30/10
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Thanks for your help Danny and scott. I got it installed and working but
it didn't make any noticeable difference to performance. I see the
instructions said that if you don't suffer from stutters, micro or
otherwise, which mine doesn't, then don't use it. Also, my fps doesn't
go above 25. So I won't use it i.e. I won't start FSX via the bat file
but I'll have it available in case things change in the future, i.e. I
get a faster rig that can reach dizzyingly high frame rates! :-)

Iain
Rugby, UK

DonK

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Dec 30, 2010, 5:57:31 PM12/30/10
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Does anyone know what this frame rate limiter actually does?

When I ran that online FSX optimizer (Bohtje??) it suggested that an "external frame rate limiter"
might help but I forgot about it.

Thanks


Don
Bothell, WA

Vic Baron

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Dec 30, 2010, 6:57:02 PM12/30/10
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FSX when run with unlimited frames provides better framerates.

It also can cause graphic anomalies in weaker systems.

The solution to the anomalies is to lower max framerates.

The FPS Limiter tries to get a balance - FSX must be set to unlimited so you
get the best frames but the Limiter hooks the D93D.DLL and controls the
frames allowing FSX more time to do the graphics. Usually you want the rate
set in the limiter to a multiple of your screen refresh rate - so for a flat
panel monitor which usually has a 60cycle refresh - set the limiter to
15,30,60 etc.

It attempts to smooth out the FPS. If you normally fly with a 30fps max and
see your FPS counter fluctuating wildly, it might help. If it stays rock
steady at 30 or 60 - you won't notice anything.

It is definitely a YMMV type of tweak.

Vic

SnakeEyes

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Dec 30, 2010, 7:21:01 PM12/30/10
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On Dec 30, 6:57 pm, "Vic Baron" <vgba...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> It is definitely a YMMV type of tweak.
>
> Vic

What is YMMV?

A

DonK

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Dec 30, 2010, 7:55:57 PM12/30/10
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 15:57:02 -0800, "Vic Baron" <vgb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"DonK" <don8...@frontier.com.notvalid> wrote in message
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>> Does anyone know what this frame rate limiter actually does?
>>

>FSX when run with unlimited frames provides better framerates.


>
>It also can cause graphic anomalies in weaker systems.
>
>The solution to the anomalies is to lower max framerates.
>
>The FPS Limiter tries to get a balance - FSX must be set to unlimited so you
>get the best frames but the Limiter hooks the D93D.DLL and controls the
>frames allowing FSX more time to do the graphics. Usually you want the rate
>set in the limiter to a multiple of your screen refresh rate - so for a flat
>panel monitor which usually has a 60cycle refresh - set the limiter to
>15,30,60 etc.
>
>It attempts to smooth out the FPS. If you normally fly with a 30fps max and
>see your FPS counter fluctuating wildly, it might help. If it stays rock
>steady at 30 or 60 - you won't notice anything.
>
>It is definitely a YMMV type of tweak.
>
>Vic

Thanks Vic but I'm wondering what the limiter is limiting. I understand software hooks but I have no
idea what the D93D.DLL is. My problem, i.e. "limitation" seems to be CPU processing speed not
graphics processing. FSX runs fairly well for me until I turn up autogen.

Is the display driver being hooked? Just curious. It doesn't sound like the external frame limiter
would help me and might even interfere.

Thanks

Don
Bothell, WA

ManhattanMan

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Dec 30, 2010, 7:57:39 PM12/30/10
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MikeW

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Dec 30, 2010, 8:01:58 PM12/30/10
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Your milage may vary.
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Any attempt to stretch fuel is guaranteed to increase headwind.


Vic Baron

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Dec 30, 2010, 8:55:03 PM12/30/10
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"DonK" <don8...@frontier.com.notvalid> wrote in message

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The D3D9.dll is the Direct X dll that relates to 3d operation in DX9. It is
not CPU intensive. FPS limiter actually frees up CPU cycles by making the
adjustments before they get to FSXC ( as I understand it from the techie
folks).

You may not get any benefit but it shouldn't cause any CPU slowdown. But, if
you don't get constant frames and smoother operation then it isn't working
for you.

I didn't use it on my old FSX system but I do use it on this one.

Vic

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