Any weapon ideas?
Kathy Sacco
Does anybody have any weapon ideas? If you do, please send them to
cyber...@geocities.com, and visit my Marathon weapons web-site at
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/6422/mall.html
CyberSacco
CyberSacco
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/6422/index.html
TRPL X
> Does anybody have any weapon ideas? If you do, please send them to
> cyber...@geocities.com, and visit my Marathon weapons web-site at
> http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/6422/mall.html
how about a flechete that has BIGGER clips and a built in energy weapon as the
second trigger
by the way, I went to your site and Dloded some weapons but I dont know how I
can install them. you have no instructions posted on your site
Bryant Brandon
[...]
>> Does anybody have any weapon ideas? If you do, please send them to
>> cyber...@geocities.com, and visit my Marathon weapons web-site at
>> http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/6422/mall.html
A second trigger on the Missile Launcher which will fire fifty tiny
missiles(each with a damage of about five) at a high rate rather than just
two big ones. I've got it lying around somewhere. It's a lot of fun to
terrorize folks with.
B.B. --I am not a goat!
no-reason
kathy...@intnet.net (Kathy Sacco) wrote:
>Does anybody have any weapon ideas? If you do, please send them to
>cyber...@geocities.com, and visit my Marathon weapons web-site at
>http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/6422/mall.html
>
>CyberSacco
>
>CyberSacco
>http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/6422/index.html
How about something that stuns the alien rather than killing it?
I dont know much about physics models etc.
No-reason
Bryant Brandon
Hmm, there's an idea! Here's a possible way, but is requires an alien
getting plastered to the wall(or flying through the air):
1. Make an alien with an external velocity scale ridiculously high(2
or 3 or 10 although it could easily stick one right through a wall.)
2. Choose the shot to stun the alien.
3. Look at its damage type.
4. Set it to 1 with a random of zero.
5. Make the marine immune to that damage type.
6. Plaster some bastards!
opt. Give the shot a speed of zero and make it affected by half gravity.
>No-reason
Mike
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Would this work?- In the alien's shapes file, under sequences, set the
"flinch" or "hit" ticks up to 360 or something--it should just stand
there paralyzed for 10 seconds. If it doesn't have a "flinch" sequence,
create one by using the "stationary" pose.
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Mike wrote:
> -----------------------------
> Would this work?- In the alien's shapes file, under sequences, set the
> "flinch" or "hit" ticks up to 360 or something--it should just stand
> there paralyzed for 10 seconds. If it doesn't have a "flinch" sequence,
> create one by using the "stationary" pose.
OK, I'll respond to my own post...
@30 ticks/second, 360 ticks would obviously be 12 seconds.
I just wonder if the Marathon engine would get bogged down (or the stack
would crash) trying to countdown all the paralyzed aliens?
Svywranth
Some lad wrote:
>>opt. Give the shot a speed of zero and make it affected by half gravity.<<
Then, it would stay in one place. :^) What are you making, stun-mines?
Another fellow wrote:
>>Would this work?- In the alien's shapes file, under sequences, set the
"flinch" or "hit" ticks up to 360 or something--it should just stand
there paralyzed for 10 seconds. If it doesn't have a "flinch" sequence,
create one by using the "stationary" pose.<<
Yes, it would.... but..... everything would stun them. Every gun, and missle,
and all of that.
Svy the Flaming Corporate Ninja of the Happy Dragon Clan (TM)
"If I had a penny for every time I got spammed, I'd make $50,000 instantly."
Svywranth (at) aol (dot) com
Warloque
make a gun that kills everything at once, so you dont waste the rest of
your ammo.
--
Warloque
Kathy Sacco
> kathy...@intnet.net (Kathy Sacco) wrote:
>
> >Does anybody have any weapon ideas? If you do, please send them to
> >cyber...@geocities.com, and visit my Marathon weapons web-site at
> >http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/6422/mall.html
> >
> >CyberSacco
> >
> >CyberSacco
> >http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/6422/index.html
>
> How about something that stuns the alien rather than killing it?
> I dont know much about physics models etc.
>
> No-reason
Great idea, but I have tried this before. It's impossible with the
Marathon engine!
Keep them coming!
CyberSacco
CyberSacco
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/6422/index.html
Kathy Sacco
In article <dthatcher-180...@spk-32.cet.com>,
dtha...@spam.spam (Warloque) wrote:
I could do that, but it would kill the player! Mabey if the player was immune...
CyberSacco - Keeper of Pfhor Mall
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/6422/mall.html
CyberSacco
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/6422/index.html
Bryant Brandon
In article <19980118083...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
svyw...@aol.com (Svywranth) wrote:
>Some lad wrote:
>
>>>opt. Give the shot a speed of zero and make it affected by half gravity.<<
>
>Then, it would stay in one place. :^) What are you making, stun-mines?
Yup.
[...]
>Svy the Flaming Corporate Ninja of the Happy Dragon Clan (TM)
>"If I had a penny for every time I got spammed, I'd make $50,000 instantly."
>Svywranth (at) aol (dot) com
B.B. --I am not a lad!
Devon
> make a gun that kills everything at once, so you dont waste the rest of
> your ammo.
>
> --
> Warloque
heck, why not just make a gun that directly transports you to the end of
the scenario? better yet, why not just save your money and time, and not
even play the scenarios? that would give roughly the same effect.
Devon
Loren Petrich
In article <kathynospam-18...@as-clw-10-125.intnet.net>,
Kathy Sacco <kathy...@intnet.net> wrote:
>In article <34c117c...@news.mindspring.com>, Bu...@aol.com wrote:
>> How about something that stuns the alien rather than killing it?
>> I dont know much about physics models etc.
>Great idea, but I have tried this before. It's impossible with the
>Marathon engine!
However, Duke Nukem and Myth have versions of that idea.
--
Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
pet...@netcom.com And a fast train
My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
Gary L. Simmons
Kathy Sacco wrote:
> Does anybody have any weapon ideas? If you do, please send them to
> cyber...@geocities.com, and visit my Marathon weapons web-site at
> http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/6422/mall.html
>
> CyberSacco
>
> CyberSacco
> http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/6422/index.html
How about a gas canister you could throw that would either emit smoke so
the monsters couldn't see you or it emitted a gas that would temporally
put them to sleep. Land mines would be a good strategy weapon. A
garrote would add the personal touch. Of course being able to call in a
fire mission with artillery would rock.
Gary Simmons
the Battle Cat
Gary L. Simmons
Devon wrote:
Now now Dev, would you deny this person the undeniable pleasure of "Pushing
The Button"? Every president of the United States after world war 2 has
been dying to do this. Even Cadet Stimpy succumbed to temptation and
pressed the "History Eraser" button, and he was guarding it! If this
warrior wants to buy a game, install it, fire it up, push the button, then
kick back and drink a beer after a job well done then who are you to deny
him this one simple pleasure? Look at it this way, would you rather smash
the skull of a baby harp seal by bapping it repeatedly for half a day with
one of those little wooden balls on a stick that plays a kiddy sized
xylophone or would you rather splatter its innocent whimpering brains onto
the pristine snow in one humongous blow with a
really-big-knobby-heavy-weight-mahogany-seal-club? Huh huh??
Warloque, this awsome weapon O destruction you asked for already exists in
Marathon. It is actually one of the secret cheat codes. Press these keys
at the same time <Option> <Command> <Esc> then click on the "OK" button.
Warloque
In article <Belcher-1801981322530001@news>, Bel...@ucsu.colorado.edu
(Devon) wrote:
#In article <dthatcher-180...@spk-32.cet.com>,
#dtha...@spam.spam (Warloque) wrote:
#
#> make a gun that kills everything at once, so you dont waste the rest of
#> your ammo.
#>
#> --
#> Warloque
#
#heck, why not just make a gun that directly transports you to the end of
#the scenario? better yet, why not just save your money and time, and not
#even play the scenarios? that would give roughly the same effect.
#Devon
thats no fun, i dont like having to use my ammo to kill everything, i want
to kill them all at once so i dont waste ammo.
--
Warloque
Kathy Sacco
> Give the shot a speed of zero and make it affected by half gravity.<<
> Then, it would stay in one place. :^) What are you making, stun-mines?
Hey, I have already made a pck of 5 mines for Marathon É, at
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/6422/mall.html
They are Explosion, Fusion, Flame, Oxygen Drain, and I can't remember the
last one.
CyberSacco
cyber...@geocities.com
CyberSacco
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/6422/index.html
John Coffey
If everythings dead, why do you need any unwasted ammo?
--
John Coffey
http://home.earthlink.net/~jcoffeycup/
mailto:jcoff...@earthlink.net
gabriel rosenkoetter
In article <dthatcher-190...@spk-105.cet.com>,
dtha...@spam.spam (Warloque) wrote:
What are you hoarding the ammo for, then?
Devon's point is that what you're describing is basically the same as what
he suggests because it means you don't actually play the game, just hit
one button and it's over. That's just stupid.
gabriel rosenkoetter | http://galena.tjs.org/~gabe/
gabe at tjs dot org | http://galena.tjs.org/~grendel/
Michael Park
In article <kathynospam-18...@as-clw-10-125.intnet.net>,
kathy...@intnet.net (Kathy Sacco) wrote:
> Great idea, but I have tried this before. It's impossible with the
> Marathon engine!
>
> Keep them coming!
It could be possible. You would have to tweak the physics quite a bit so
that the Marathon 1 engine would choke on it. Get a weapon that fires
projectiles (Assault Rifle, for example), change the Theta error to zero.
Make it so that the projectiles travel at a very slow speed (0.1), and do
very little damage (0 if that's possible). Keep the weapon on automatic.
Crank up the assault rifle's ammo to 104 (52 isn't enough), then save. Get
into the game and try it on aliens that temporarily "freeze" after getting
hit by projectiles. Let fly at close range and step back. The vic...
er... guinea pig would keep getting hit by the projectile shots while you
switch to something more destructive and blow it out of the sky - uh -
space.
I never really tried this, I'm just piecing together the experience from
the game and my experience (?) with tweaking the weapons physics.
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Bryant Brandon
In article <kathynospam-19...@as-clw-10-20.intnet.net>,
kathy...@intnet.net (Kathy Sacco) wrote:
>> Give the shot a speed of zero and make it affected by half gravity.<<
>
>> Then, it would stay in one place. :^) What are you making, stun-mines?
>
>Hey, I have already made a pck of 5 mines for Marathon ƒ, at
>http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/6422/mall.html
That's what gave me the idea. (:
>CyberSacco
B.B. --I am not a goat!
Gary L. Simmons
Warloque wrote:
In article <Belcher-1801981322530001@news>, Bel...@ucsu.colorado.edu
(Devon) wrote:
#In article <dthatcher-180...@spk-32.cet.com>,
#dtha...@spam.spam (Warloque) wrote:
#
#> make a gun that kills everything at once, so you dont waste the rest of
#> your ammo.
#>
#> --
#> Warloque
#
#heck, why not just make a gun that directly transports you to the end of
#the scenario? better yet, why not just save your money and time, and not
#even play the scenarios? that would give roughly the same effect.
#Devon
thats no fun, i dont like having to use my ammo to kill everything, i want
to kill them all at once so i dont waste ammo.
--
Warloque
You could take a tip from my Great Great Uncle Angus McCat, a noble Scott
warrior who, after a battle, would use a
hand ax to dig the still smoking expended projectiles out of his slain
enemy's bodies. He would melt them down and
recast new bullets from them. During the lead shortage of the "Haggus Wars"
he would kick their teeth out and melt
down their fillings. The point being, be creative.
If you have the room, run circles around your enemy. He cannot lead his
shots and he doesn't give a pulled finger if one
of his own men is in his sights when he is firing at you. Learn to fight
with your fists. You can take out any Hunter,
Compiler, Yeti or Drone with your fists without taking damage. You will want
to back off of a Blue "Mother of All
Hunters" when you think they have had a lot of punishment because they die
only a "Hard Death" meaning he will
explode and kill you right back. The vindictive so and so. If you run up
under the Jug you can polish their knobs while
they are unable to shoot you. Same thing with Hunters though, hard death, so
be careful. The fighters can easily be
duked out, just keep moving and circling them. Float like a butterfly, sting
like a bee. You would want to back off of a
Trooper or an Enforcer though, burn up your ammo on these guys, you have
saved tons of it from fist fighting and
making them kill each other. A Cyborg is doable but I suggest having a
powerup handy so you can powder your nose
when needed. If there are BOBs helping you, let them do as much damage to
the Beasties as they can and if you are
playing a lower difficulty level, kill the remaining BOB's for their ammo.
Hey, what are you guys looking at me like that
for??? Anyone for a game of co-op? :-)
Some weapons are more effective on certain monsters than other weapons. You
can save a lot of ammo by using the
appropriate weapon. Anything mechanized is greatly damaged with the Fusion
Pistol. Hunters, Drones, Jugs and
Compilers. The TOZT has no effect on Hunters, Compilers or Lava Yetis (they
are the ones that throw fire balls instead
of muck). Fleshy things are affected more by projectile and shrapnel
weapons.
Some weapons do not work in a vacuum. The Fusion Pistol, Magnum Pistols,
(Shotguns?), Fists, and the SMG will
work in a vacuum, conserve this ammo if you know of vacuum levels ahead. The
SMG and your fists are the only thing
that works under medium (lava and water and goo and sewage and whiskey).
Use the appropriate accuracy. Don't bother shooting at something too far
away with an inaccurate weapon like the Battle
Rifle or the Shotguns. You almost have to run up and plant the muzzle of the
Battle Rifle into the chest of a monster to
get maximum damage done. The exception to this rule is to be faced with so
many dang monsters that no matter where
you shoot one of them will take damage from each shot and when they are
taking damage they cannot shoot back, unlike
you. For long shots choose an accurate weapon depending on the power you
need, Magnum and Fusion pistols, Alien
Weapon, Grenades, and SPNKR are accurate at long range. A Shotgun blast, 2nd
trigger Fusion Pistol, Grenades,
SPNKR and Alien weapon will trigger a remote switch, but a single puff of the
Alien Weapon will expend the least
amount of firepower to do the same job.
I'm sure I left some things out, I always do, but if you heed these
instructions, you will be able to conserve all the ammo
you need to play the game without problems. Good luck.
John Coffey
Wow, somebody archive this, please.
I know these are fightin' words but, you are a gentleman and a scholar,
Mr. Simmons.
and here's a gold star for your forehead-> *
Bryant Brandon
In article <kathynospam-11...@as-clw-10-171.intnet.net>,
kathy...@intnet.net (Kathy Sacco) wrote:
>Does anybody have any weapon ideas? If you do, please send them to
>cyber...@geocities.com, and visit my Marathon weapons web-site at
>http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/6422/mall.html
>
>CyberSacco
>
>CyberSacco
>http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Battlefield/6422/index.html
Here's another idea, but it's more of an enemy that a weapon.
Make a tiny Cyborg and scale down its height and radius appropriately.
Give him 6000 hit points.
Remove his long-range shot and change short-range to a fist punch.
Give him a speed of five. Change his evternal velocity scale to 1.5.
Give yourself an infinite supply of these guys.
Make him friends with everyone else and and enemy to you.
That'll keep you moving rather than just sitting around. And if he
does manage to back you into a corner, a single grenade should blow his
ass out of the way. You might also give him a nuclear hard death and a
contrail just for fun.
Warloque
In article <34C37127...@SPAMearthlink.net>,
gsim...@SPAMearthlink.net wrote:
#Devon wrote:
#
#> In article <dthatcher-180...@spk-32.cet.com>,
#> dtha...@spam.spam (Warloque) wrote:
#>
#> > make a gun that kills everything at once, so you dont waste the rest of
#> > your ammo.
#> >
#> > --
#> > Warloque
#>
#> heck, why not just make a gun that directly transports you to the end of
#> the scenario? better yet, why not just save your money and time, and not
#> even play the scenarios? that would give roughly the same effect.
#> Devon
#
#Now now Dev, would you deny this person the undeniable pleasure of "Pushing
#The Button"? Every president of the United States after world war 2 has
#been dying to do this. Even Cadet Stimpy succumbed to temptation and
#pressed the "History Eraser" button, and he was guarding it! If this
#warrior wants to buy a game, install it, fire it up, push the button, then
#kick back and drink a beer after a job well done then who are you to deny
#him this one simple pleasure? Look at it this way, would you rather smash
#the skull of a baby harp seal by bapping it repeatedly for half a day with
#one of those little wooden balls on a stick that plays a kiddy sized
#xylophone or would you rather splatter its innocent whimpering brains onto
#the pristine snow in one humongous blow with a
#really-big-knobby-heavy-weight-mahogany-seal-club? Huh huh??
#
#Warloque, this awsome weapon O destruction you asked for already exists in
#Marathon. It is actually one of the secret cheat codes. Press these keys
#at the same time <Option> <Command> <Esc> then click on the "OK" button.
#
#Gary Simmons
#the Battle Cat
i tried that and it crashed! whats wrong?
--
Warloque
Quartz
> #> make a gun that kills everything at once, so you dont waste the rest of
> #> your ammo.
> #>
> #> --
> #> Warloque
> #
> #the scenario? better yet, why not just save your money and time, and not
> #even play the scenarios? that would give roughly the same effect.
> #Devon
>
> thats no fun, i dont like having to use my ammo to kill everything, i want
> to kill them all at once so i dont waste ammo.
pardon me for asking, but what exactly do you intend to do with all that
leftover ammo once all the creatures are dead? eat it?
--
Quartz
"never argue with a fool, others may
not be able to tell the difference"
"a closed mouth gathers no foot"
http://www1.shore.net/~quartz/main.html
http://www1.shore.net/~quartz/hoth/Hoth.html
John Coffey
Quartz wrote:
>
> pardon me for asking, but what exactly do you intend to do with all that
> leftover ammo once all the creatures are dead? eat it?
>
-repeatedly.
gabriel rosenkoetter
In article <dthatcher-200...@spk-81.cet.com>,
dtha...@spam.spam (Warloque) wrote:
> i tried that and it crashed! whats wrong?
Your utter and complete idiocy amazes me Warloque.
If that was supposed to be funny... well, it was only so at you expense.
Not the kind of joke one wants to make.
<shrug>
Gary L. Simmons
John Coffey wrote:
> Wow, somebody archive this, please.
>
> I know these are fightin' words but, you are a gentleman and a scholar,
> Mr. Simmons.
>
> and here's a gold star for your forehead-> *
> --
> John Coffey
>
> http://209.131.173.4/jc/
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~jcoffeycup/
>
> mailto:jcoff...@earthlink.net
John,
Heyyyy... who are you calling... uh, whatever you called me?!? I knew I
would leave some stuff out.
If you can position yourself correctly, a Cyborg or a Trooper will suicide
against a wall from launching grenades at you. You must be at a far
enough distance that they will grenade you as opposed to flaming or
shooting at you and they must be activated and see you. They don't seem
to notice there is a column or wall in front of them. Once you have their
attention just wiggling in place will infuriate them, check you motion
detector. If there is a green square in the center and they are activated
they can see you.
Funnel their flow of bodies through a narrow constriction like a doorway
or a hallway and they will line up for you exactly in the center of the
poly for you to fire at, pre-aimed, and not miss a shot. This also will
help you save ammo.
Knowing that a monster will run from the center of one poly to the center
of the next poly helps you to line up your shots and anticipate his
movements.
Try to save your explosive schrapnel weapons (SPNKR rockets and Battle
Rifle grenades) for GROUPS of monsters. You can save a lot of ammo by
having the monster share the damage of a single rocket. If you aim at the
floor by their feet or at a wall just behind them you will not waste ammo
from missing your shot.
What am I leaving out?
Svywranth
Quartz wrote:
>>pardon me for asking, but what exactly do you intend to do with all that
leftover ammo once all the creatures are dead? eat it?<<
Of course, silly buns. What else would one do with extra ammo? :^P
Devon
In article <gabeNOSPAM-20...@rosenkoetter.tjs.org>,
gabeN...@colby.tjs.org (gabriel rosenkoetter) wrote:
Oh Man! I never, ever thought someone would fall for that! much less, not
even realize they had been duped! Kudos to ya, gary and gabe! Hilarious!
You know, with flamebait of this quality, I'm not sure the sucker of the
week needs to be a hoax. . .
Forge on,
Devon
Bryant Brandon
>In article <34C37127...@SPAMearthlink.net>,
>gsim...@SPAMearthlink.net wrote:
>
>#Devon wrote:
>#
>#> In article <dthatcher-180...@spk-32.cet.com>,
>#> dtha...@spam.spam (Warloque) wrote:
>#>
>#> > make a gun that kills everything at once, so you dont waste the rest of
>#> > your ammo.
>#> >
>#> > --
>#> > Warloque
>#>
>#> heck, why not just make a gun that directly transports you to the end of
>#> the scenario? better yet, why not just save your money and time, and not
>#> even play the scenarios? that would give roughly the same effect.
>#> Devon
>#
>#Now now Dev, would you deny this person the undeniable pleasure of "Pushing
>#The Button"? Every president of the United States after world war 2 has
>#been dying to do this. Even Cadet Stimpy succumbed to temptation and
>#pressed the "History Eraser" button, and he was guarding it! If this
>#warrior wants to buy a game, install it, fire it up, push the button, then
>#kick back and drink a beer after a job well done then who are you to deny
>#him this one simple pleasure? Look at it this way, would you rather smash
>#the skull of a baby harp seal by bapping it repeatedly for half a day with
>#one of those little wooden balls on a stick that plays a kiddy sized
>#xylophone or would you rather splatter its innocent whimpering brains onto
>#the pristine snow in one humongous blow with a
>#really-big-knobby-heavy-weight-mahogany-seal-club? Huh huh??
>#
>#Warloque, this awsome weapon O destruction you asked for already exists in
>#Marathon. It is actually one of the secret cheat codes. Press these keys
>#at the same time <Option> <Command> <Esc> then click on the "OK" button.
>#
>#Gary Simmons
>#the Battle Cat
>
>i tried that and it crashed! whats wrong?
That button kills everything--even your computer.
>--
>Warloque
Quartz
> > > #Warloque, this awsome weapon O destruction you asked for already exists in
> > > #Marathon. It is actually one of the secret cheat codes. Press these keys
> > > #at the same time <Option> <Command> <Esc> then click on the "OK" button.
> > > i tried that and it crashed! whats wrong?
> > Your utter and complete idiocy amazes me Warloque.
> > If that was supposed to be funny... well, it was only so at you expense.
> > Not the kind of joke one wants to make.
> > <shrug>
> > gabriel rosenkoetter | http://galena.tjs.org/~gabe/
> > gabe at tjs dot org | http://galena.tjs.org/~grendel/
>
> Oh Man! I never, ever thought someone would fall for that! much less, not
> even realize they had been duped! Kudos to ya, gary and gabe! Hilarious!
> You know, with flamebait of this quality, I'm not sure the sucker of the
> week needs to be a hoax. . .
> Forge on,
> Devon
are you sure he's not pulling our collective leg? it seems impossible
for someone to be *That* dense (it's not like it doesn't say "force
quit" anywhere in the dialog box)
Ron Hunsinger
> pardon me for asking, but what exactly do you intend to do with all that
> leftover ammo once all the creatures are dead? eat it?
Dunno about him, but I use leftover ammo as a way to keep score.
Set the difficulty to Total Carnage, so you can pick up all the ammo you
come to. Then, at the end of the game, use a stopwatch to time how long it
takes to fire it all off, firing as rapidly as possible. For weapons with
two fire buttons, you have to hold down both at the same time (except for
Fusion Pistol). That time is your score.
If they take away your ammo part way through the game (like at the end of
Begging for Mercy in M2), record that time and add it to the final score.
My "score" for M2 is well over an hour.
No fair using the loops like the Electric Sheep loops in MI to build up
extra ammo. Only one pass through each level.
Even when I'm not playing Total Carnage, I derive a certain pleasure from
wandering the empty level after I've killed everything, gloating over all
the ammo and pickups that I didn't need to use.
OK, I'm weird. But it's a game, and it's perfectly OK to turn a game into a
game. You get your kicks your way, I'll get mine my way.
-Ron Hunsinger
Svywranth
Quartz Wrote:
>>are you sure he's not pulling our collective leg? it seems impossible
for someone to be *That* dense (it's not like it doesn't say "force
quit" anywhere in the dialog box)<<
Yeah yeah yeah. You got it. ;^)
Warloque is indeed a hoax. An early april fools joke of sorts...
So yes, I'm the one that formulated all of Warloque's replies.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that I pissed a lot of people off, but I've had my share
of guilt by now, and I don't expect not to hear the end of it any time soon....
no, actually, I did feel pretty bad duping all of these people here. Especially
when Gary made that long post. I beat myself up then. But still, Gary, your
efforts were not futile. I'm sure many people here might have learned
something, and future generations might benefit. Or something.
Anyway, I was going to "come out of the booth" sometime and tell the truth and
all, before it got too out of hand. Besides.... it's not very easy to sound
authentically stupid for an extended amount of time. So to speak...
Well, if you're wondering why I did it, I just thought back a little while to
when everybody was whining that we didn't have a moron like PiRaTe around
anymore. And then the concept of AGM Weekly Sucker came up, and the idea of
pretending to be a complete waste of good carbon. Etc.
So it was just an easy matter to boot up News Watcher, change a few addresses
and my .sig, and post with my ISP. (If you played close enough attention, you'd
see that Warloque's posts came from CET. And anybody whom I've sent a file to
should know that I'm also known as ebe...@cet.com. ;^))
Anyway. Enough about that... I hope there aren't any hard feelings or anything.
It wasn't ever intended in any malicious way. I hope it won't be taken as
such....
Gary L. Simmons
Warloque wrote:
> #Warloque, this awsome weapon O destruction you asked for already exists in
> #Marathon. It is actually one of the secret cheat codes. Press these keys
> #at the same time <Option> <Command> <Esc> then click on the "OK" button.
> #
> #Gary Simmons
> #the Battle Cat
>
> i tried that and it crashed! whats wrong?
>
> --
> Warloque
Warloque,
If your computer has a speaker or a microphone you have to say the names of the
keys out loud as you press on the keys. Hope this helps! Let me know if you
are still having problems.
Ron Hunsinger
> > > > #Warloque, this awsome weapon O destruction you asked for already
exists in
> > > > #Marathon. It is actually one of the secret cheat codes. Press
these keys
> > > > #at the same time <Option> <Command> <Esc> then click on the "OK"
button.
>
> > > > i tried that and it crashed! whats wrong?
>
> > > Your utter and complete idiocy amazes me Warloque.
>
> > Oh Man! I never, ever thought someone would fall for that! much less, not
> > even realize they had been duped!
>
> are you sure he's not pulling our collective leg? it seems impossible
> for someone to be *That* dense (it's not like it doesn't say "force
> quit" anywhere in the dialog box)
Especially since he couldn't have "done that"! There isn't an OK button in
the dialog. Your options are "Force Quit" and "Cancel".
Love it when trollers get hooked.
-Ron Hunsinger
Gary L. Simmons
Svywranth wrote:
> Quartz Wrote:
>
> >>are you sure he's not pulling our collective leg? it seems impossible
> for someone to be *That* dense (it's not like it doesn't say "force
> quit" anywhere in the dialog box)<<
>
No problem. At least I got a good one in about the baby seals and I have been
wanting to post something about conserving ammo in Marathon for a while, hope
somebody wrote that down. I have been developing this technology since M1 where I
found myself digging spent rounds out of dead Pfhor with my Kabar for the first
half dozen levels. Thanks for coming clean before gabe popped a blood vessel.
Gary Simmons
the Battle Cat
P.S. Butt munch.
Mike
Gary L. Simmons wrote:
Thanks for coming clean before gabe popped a blood vessel.
>
John Coffey
Svy-
In no way am I trying to be malicious, and please take it in the spirit
intended, but your time would be better spent finishing up your various
scenarios.
I'd rather see a new kick-ass scenario than daily stream-of conciousness
posts.
Log off and get to work will ya?
Quartz
> Thanks for coming clean before gabe popped a blood vessel.
- again. :)
gabriel rosenkoetter
In article <34C834...@concentric.net>, Mike
<mXXsw...@concentric.net> wrote:
>Gary L. Simmons wrote:
>>Thanks for coming clean before gabe popped a blood vessel.
>Gabe does seem to be tense lately...
Ahem... EXAMS!
Anyway...
I shouldn't be this up-tight... I'm IN, fer crissakes. (That is, in to
Swarthmore.)
--
gabriel rosenkoetter | http://galena.tjs.org/~gabe/
gabe @ tjs dot org | http://galena.tjs.org/~grendel/
Mike
> >>Thanks for coming clean before gabe popped a blood vessel.
> >Gabe does seem to be tense lately...
>
> Ahem... EXAMS!
> Swarthmore.)
You're right, Gabe--Just kick back. Nobody's going to give a damn what
you did in high school from now on--it's from Swathmahr on that counts.
Save all your stress for next year...
J Roberson
In article <34C8FF...@concentric.net>, Mike
<mXXsw...@concentric.net> wrote:
And ten years from now, no one will care that you went to Swarthmore :)
--
J Roberson est 1973 http://www.io.com/~orlando
"Take chickens and ram them together, serve them broken."
"Take rabbits and smite them to pieces; seethe them in grease."
-- from The Forme of Curry, a fourteenth century cookbook.
gabriel rosenkoetter
> > Thanks for coming clean before gabe popped a blood vessel.
>
> - again. :)
Better blood vessels than zits...
(Just ask Svy!)
<sigh>
gabriel rosenkoetter | http://galena.tjs.org/~gabe/
gabe at tjs dot org | http://galena.tjs.org/~grendel/
Svywranth
John Coffey wrote:
>>In no way am I trying to be malicious, and please take it in the spirit
intended, but your time would be better spent finishing up your various
scenarios. <<
Yes, but my interest in Marathon and most of my inspiration comes from AGM. I
wouldn't dream of being without it.
>>I'd rather see a new kick-ass scenario than daily stream-of conciousness
posts.<<
Well, dear, there are certain obstacles that are in the way, that I have to
work around. :^) Among them MapMaker's block.
>>Log off and get to work will ya?<<
Okay.
Svywranth
Gabe wrote:
>>Better blood vessels than zits...
(Just ask Svy!)
<sigh><<
::looks about, fidgets a little, then goes back to reading again::
James Hastings-Trew
In article <19980124011...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
svyw...@aol.com (Svywranth) wrote:
> Well, dear, there are certain obstacles that are in the way, that I have to
> work around. :^) Among them MapMaker's block.
Just pull out forge, start making polys... then start fixing them... then
find out where they lead to, and add from there... before you know it, you
have a map, and the block is gone.
--
James Hastings-Trew
jhasting-at-sk-dot-sympatico-dot-ca
Svywranth
James Hastings-Trew wrote::
>>Just pull out forge, start making polys... then start fixing them... then
find out where they lead to, and add from there... before you know it, you
have a map, and the block is gone.<<
::thinks::
Now that you mention that, that is a good idea.... hell, cool, I'm just
thinking up random polys and it's working.
::Cartman voice:: Kick ass!
Thanks, man. :^)
Svy the Flaming Corporate Ninja of the Happy Dragon Clan (TM)
this .sig closed for repairs
Gary L. Simmons
Svywranth wrote:
> Gabe wrote:
>
> >>Better blood vessels than zits...
> (Just ask Svy!)
> <sigh><<
>
> ::looks about, fidgets a little, then goes back to reading again::
>
> Svy the Flaming Corporate Ninja of the Happy Dragon Clan (TM)
> "If I had a penny for every time I got spammed, I'd make $50,000 instantly."
> Svywranth (at) aol (dot) com
Hey pal, are you going to get that one on your nose? I got some pliers in the
truck and a bucket you can drain it into.
Svywranth
Gary said::
>>Hey pal, are you going to get that one on your nose? I got some pliers in
the
truck and a bucket you can drain it into.<<
NO! Bill Nye sez that yer not suppozed to pop yer pimplez! Bill Nye knowz
everything. ::slurps his Big 'Ol Lolly.::
Oh, and mister? ::tugs at Gary's shirt:: You already did the
Pliers-And-A-Pimple joke, I think.
Svy the Flaming Corporate Ninja of the Happy Dragon Clan (TM)
"Double A Ken. What are you doing with the Corteses?"
"I run the web page. What the f*ck do you think I do?"
-La Cosa Nostroid #6
Bryant Brandon
In article <19980126234...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
svyw...@aol.com (Svywranth) wrote:
>Gary said::
>
>>>Hey pal, are you going to get that one on your nose? I got some pliers in
>the
>truck and a bucket you can drain it into.<<
>
>NO! Bill Nye sez that yer not suppozed to pop yer pimplez! Bill Nye knowz
>everything. ::slurps his Big 'Ol Lolly.::
Hey! Wathch the damn 'z's.
>Oh, and mister? ::tugs at Gary's shirt:: You already did the
>Pliers-And-A-Pimple joke, I think.
>
>Svy the Flaming Corporate Ninja of the Happy Dragon Clan (TM)
>
>"Double A Ken. What are you doing with the Corteses?"
>"I run the web page. What the f*ck do you think I do?"
> -La Cosa Nostroid #6
B.B. --Really intolerant of everything today.
Ron Hunsinger
In article <34C60CE4...@SPAMearthlink.net>,
gsim...@SPAMearthlink.net wrote:
> What am I leaving out?
You can soften up a Mother Of All Hunters with your fists, by running right
up to him and punching him from close range. He can't shoot back as long as
you keep hitting him.
This works on all hunters, and can be used to kill any of them, but a MOAH
will always explode when it dies, even if you use your fists. (All other
hunters will just sort of crumple.) So, count your blows.
On Normal difficulty, a MOAH will take about 220 standing punches. Adjust
for how much damage you think they've taken before you get to them. (You
generally have to kill them last if they're in a group, and their
companions may have hit them a few times.) So, punch them until you think
they're nearly dead, then beat a hasty retreat and finish them off with
just one or two shots from something a little more long-range. Takes a lot
less ammo to kill them that way. (If you have a pattern buffer handy, you
can practice until you've got them down to one last fist blow. Then a
single bullet of whatever ammo you have the most of is all you need.)
Same thing works with Juggernauts, of course.
When counting fist punches, remember not to make the first one a running
hit, or adjust the count if it is.
When killing Cyborgs with your fists, make repeated running hits until you
think they're just about to go. Then, for the final few punches, run up to
them (without punching), and tap them with your fist as you back away.
Doesn't do as much damage per punch, but when you do finally deliver the
killing blow, you'll be far enough away from the explosion to avoid taking
damage. You can kill even the meanest of Cyborgs with your fists this way,
and come away totally unscathed.
An Enforcer will stay put once it starts shooting at you. You can turn this
against it if you have something you can hide behind, because it means you
can aim even when you can't see it. Step out from behind your shield and
verify that you're aimed right. If not, duck under cover without shooting
and adjust your aim. When you're sure you've got him targeted, hit him. No
missed shots. (So nice of him to stand motionless through all this.)
On levels with Enforcers, your most plentiful ammo is usually all those
alien weapons (assuming you aren't wasting them by burning or exploding the
Enforcers). You don't want to kill an Enforcer with an alien weapon, but
you can soften him up with one. For example, on Normal, a purple Enforcer
can survive 6 but not 7 hits with an alien weapon. So hit him 6 times, then
switch to magnum or fusion pistol for the coup de grace.
If an Enforcer happens to take a stand in a place that's not to your
liking, you can make it start patrolling again by moving well away from its
line of sight. When you return, it'll be moving again, and may start
shooting from a more favorable (to you) position.
Enforcers and Hunters often team up to shoot at you from vantage point.
They don't work well together, though. If you draw their fire, the Enforcer
will stand in one place and shoot, but the Hunter will continue to pace
back and forth. This often brings the Hunter in front of the Enforcer,
where he takes damage from friendly fire. (But Hunters are so kindhearted
that they never take offense, and never shoot back. More's the pity.)
Eventually, the Hunter will be dead, without you firing a shot. Don't
tackle the Enforcer until then.
Hunters do sometimes duke it out with Cyborgs, though. A Greater Cyborg
doesn't seem to realize that the Hunter is immune to flame, so the Hunter
will always win. Which is good, because it's easier to kill a Hunter than a
Cyborg with your fists.
Monsters with tracking weapons are lots of fun. With practice, you can
guide their missles into their companions. I get a lot of satisfaction from
that. (Of course, all the monsters occasionally hit their friends by
accident, something I'm sure you're already putting to great advantage. But
the real joy is from AIMING their shots into their friends.)
One curious thing about that, though. If you have a bunch of S'pht shooting
target-seeking fireballs, I can often aim the fireball from one S'pht into
another, but I've never been able to make a S'pht hit himself. The fireball
seems to go right through him, even when it seems I've lined it up just
right. Are S'pht immune to their own fireballs?
My far and away favorite weapon is the door. You can kill lots of critters
with doors, and it doesn't take any ammo.
A reasonably fast door can take out a Trooper or a Cyborg. You can stand
far enough away from the door that they use their grenades against you, but
still be just barely close enough to be able to close the door every time
they try to open it. Eventually, they'll take themselves out, along with
any of their softer companions that are foolish enough to be standing
around.
A thin door will let a fist punch through. Stand with your nose right up
against one side of a door, and let them come up to the door on the other
side. Close the door every time they try to open it, and keep your fists
punching. It's a standing punch, so it doesn't do much damage, but that's
more than they're doing to you. Eventually, you'll hear one die, and
another will take his place. When they're all gone, step through the door
and over the pile of smoking entrails.
Of course, you have to hit the door where they are, and you can't see them,
so you have to listen. Hunters and S'pht make the familiar sound when you
punch them through the door. But soft critters, like Fighters and Troopers,
make no sound at all. That's good enough, though, because it means you
AREN'T hearing the sound your fist normally makes against a wall or door.
The door doesn't need to look like a door, of course. In the final room of
Wiping Away The Dirt And Glue, you can kill all the baddies behind the wall
before you even open it. Remember, all's fair in love and war. There's no
percentage in giving the enemy a fair chance if you don't have to.
-Ron Hunsinger
Gary L. Simmons
Svywranth wrote:
> Gary said::
>
> >>Hey pal, are you going to get that one on your nose? I got some pliers in
> the
> truck and a bucket you can drain it into.<<
>
> NO! Bill Nye sez that yer not suppozed to pop yer pimplez! Bill Nye knowz
> everything. ::slurps his Big 'Ol Lolly.::
>
> Oh, and mister? ::tugs at Gary's shirt:: You already did the
> Pliers-And-A-Pimple joke, I think.
>
> Svy the Flaming Corporate Ninja of the Happy Dragon Clan (TM)
>
> "Double A Ken. What are you doing with the Corteses?"
> "I run the web page. What the f*ck do you think I do?"
> -La Cosa Nostroid #6
Yeah, but it's a new zit and boy is she a beaut!! I even added a bucket to
drain into, thereby enhansing the pliers-and-zit joke technology. I'm not just
sitting here on my butt-ocks boy, I am working hard to squeeze the last drop
out of every joke.
Borzz
In article <hnsngr-ya0231800...@news.sirius.com>,
hns...@sirius.com (Ron Hunsinger) wrote:
>A thin door will let a fist punch through.
>The door doesn't need to look like a door, of course. In the final room of
>Wiping Away The Dirt And Glue, you can kill all the baddies behind the wall
>before you even open it. Remember, all's fair in love and war. There's no
>percentage in giving the enemy a fair chance if you don't have to.
Wow - you won't find *that* in the Tempus Irae Spoiler Guide!
(what in the world do you do with all that ammo?)
....Borzz
"Borzz Gallery Of Marathon"
Quartz
> One curious thing about that, though. If you have a bunch of S'pht shooting
> target-seeking fireballs, I can often aim the fireball from one S'pht into
> another, but I've never been able to make a S'pht hit himself. The fireball
> seems to go right through him, even when it seems I've lined it up just
> right. Are S'pht immune to their own fireballs?
any creature in the game is immune to it's own shots, including the
marine. you can try this for yourself- make a custon PM where some
visible shot that's not affected be gravity (missle, zues blast, AW
blast, etc) and make it's speed something absurdly slow (like 32). shoot
and count how many times you can walk through it before it hits a
wall.....
jmerriman
>you can try this for yourself- make a custon PM where some
>visible shot that's not affected be gravity (missle, zues blast, AW
>blast, etc) and make it's speed something absurdly slow (like 32). shoot
>and count how many times you can walk through it before it hits a
>wall.....
Just use the mines PM that came with Anvil.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Jonathan Merriman | Project Earthbound
jmer...@ix.netcom.com | http://209.131.173.4/earthbound/
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Matthew Vaughan
> > One curious thing about that, though. If you have a bunch of S'pht shooting
> > target-seeking fireballs, I can often aim the fireball from one S'pht into
> > another, but I've never been able to make a S'pht hit himself. The fireball
> > seems to go right through him, even when it seems I've lined it up just
> > right. Are S'pht immune to their own fireballs?
>
> any creature in the game is immune to it's own shots, including the
> marine. you can try this for yourself- make a custon PM where some
> visible shot that's not affected be gravity (missle, zues blast, AW
> blast, etc) and make it's speed something absurdly slow (like 32). shoot
> and count how many times you can walk through it before it hits a
> wall.....
But of course, you _can_ suffer splash damage from explosive weapons that
hit something else (grenades, missiles).
....................................................
MATTHEW VAUGHAN
matthewv at best dot com (damn spammers...)
http://matthewv.home.mindspring.com/
....................................................
Face
Matthew Vaughan wrote:
>
> In article <34CE45...@shore.net>, qua...@shore.net wrote:
>
> > any creature in the game is immune to it's own shots, including the
> > marine. you can try this for yourself- make a custon PM where some
> > visible shot that's not affected be gravity (missle, zues blast, AW
> > blast, etc) and make it's speed something absurdly slow (like 32).
> > shoot and count how many times you can walk through it before it
> > hits a wall.....
>
> But of course, you _can_ suffer splash damage from explosive weapons
> that hit something else (grenades, missiles).
The reason from this is to keep creatures/players from being hit when the
origin point of their shot is inside their cylinder.
--
Face (Dan Rudolph) <rudolph...@mcleod.net>
The Dark Avenger of Netiquette
President, Watcher Comics <ftp://ftp.eyrie.org/pub/racc/watcher/>
http://206.168.216.158/Marathon/pmarchive/main.html
Gary L. Simmons
Ron Hunsinger wrote:
You must have missed the first part of my 2 part post, your news reader
probably timed out on you. I covered much of this already, check Dejanews to
see the stuff you left out. Thanks for filling in the stuff _I_ left out
though. Somebody otta be writting this stuff down. You guessed it, some
monsters are immune to their own shots. Compilers for one.
Ron Hunsinger
In article
<borzz-27019...@pool003-max4.mpop3-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net>,
bo...@earthlink.net (Borzz) wrote:
> In article <hnsngr-ya0231800...@news.sirius.com>,
> hns...@sirius.com (Ron Hunsinger) wrote:
>
> >A thin door will let a fist punch through.
>
> >The door doesn't need to look like a door, of course. In the final room of
> >Wiping Away The Dirt And Glue, you can kill all the baddies behind the wall
> >before you even open it. Remember, all's fair in love and war. There's no
> >percentage in giving the enemy a fair chance if you don't have to.
>
> Wow - you won't find *that* in the Tempus Irae Spoiler Guide!
>
> (what in the world do you do with all that ammo?)
I wander the empty level after I've killed all the baddies, gloating over
all the ammo I didn't pick up. Sort of like Uncle Scrooge playing in his
money bin with all the money he's never going to spend. I go to as great
lengths to save one bullet as Scrooge does to save one dime.
Playing Normal, I think I did Dirt and Glue using one shotgun shell, two or
three alien weapons, and part of a fusion battery. (But that's kind of
unfair, since I didn't kill everybody. There is one MOAH still wandering
around in the garden on the east edge of the map, where I can't get to him.
I killed everybody else, though, including the Cyborg that was in that same
garden.)
I didn't pick up any of the shields, since I still had a smidgen over
double shields at the end. (I ended Descending Spiral with triple shields,
and the only damage I took in Dirt and Glue was the lava bath, which I got
through with just under one shield of damage. I could have taken less
damage by grenade hopping, but then I'd have had to use a grenade, and once
you use one you might as well use the full clip.)
And then they take it all away when you leave the level. Oh well...
-Ron Hunsinger
Christopher Veres
> In article
> <borzz-27019...@pool003-max4.mpop3-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net>,
> bo...@earthlink.net (Borzz) wrote:
>
> > In article <hnsngr-ya0231800...@news.sirius.com>,
> > hns...@sirius.com (Ron Hunsinger) wrote:
> >
> > >A thin door will let a fist punch through.
> >
> > >The door doesn't need to look like a door, of course. In the final room of
> > >Wiping Away The Dirt And Glue, you can kill all the baddies behind the wall
> > >before you even open it. Remember, all's fair in love and war. There's no
> > >percentage in giving the enemy a fair chance if you don't have to.
> >
> > Wow - you won't find *that* in the Tempus Irae Spoiler Guide!
> >
> > (what in the world do you do with all that ammo?)
>
> I wander the empty level after I've killed all the baddies, gloating over
> all the ammo I didn't pick up. Sort of like Uncle Scrooge playing in his
> money bin with all the money he's never going to spend. I go to as great
> lengths to save one bullet as Scrooge does to save one dime.
Man, and I thought *I* was an obsessive ammo scrounge. :)
> Playing Normal, I think I did Dirt and Glue using one shotgun shell, two or
> three alien weapons, and part of a fusion battery. (But that's kind of
> unfair, since I didn't kill everybody. There is one MOAH still wandering
> around in the garden on the east edge of the map, where I can't get to him.
> I killed everybody else, though, including the Cyborg that was in that same
> garden.)
Normal -- bah. Impress me by playing it on Total Carnage and wasting
*everything*. Nothing less that Total Level Destruction counts. Use that
grenade, kill that Hunter, kill everything.
> I didn't pick up any of the shields, since I still had a smidgen over
> double shields at the end. (I ended Descending Spiral with triple shields,
> and the only damage I took in Dirt and Glue was the lava bath, which I got
> through with just under one shield of damage. I could have taken less
> damage by grenade hopping, but then I'd have had to use a grenade, and once
> you use one you might as well use the full clip.)
Toe-t-all Car-n-age. After all these years of M-Time, why wuss around in a
Moo scenario using OEM enemies on anything less? We remain unimpressed.
Start all over. Do it again.
Bullets are like love -- they should both be free. Embrace your enemies
and love them to death.
> And then they take it all away when you leave the level. Oh well...
<snigger> ;)
-- Chris
"All Is Obscure, The Bull Is King."
Christopher Veres
cve...@NoSpam.obscure.org
-- Remove the "NoSpam." --
Go grab the new and exciting Weapons Pump For Trojan at:
<http://www.obscure.org/~cveres/pump/>
na
Can you make a weapon that "transports" the enemy out of the room? This
would be an interesting weapon. Also, does anyone else have any weapon
shapes? It would be nice to have big guns like in "Men In Black." I'm
currently working on an alternative to the pinkish alien weapon. Let me
know if any of you have ideas.
Svywranth
Ron Husinger wrote:
>>There is one MOAH still wandering
around in the garden on the east edge of the map, where I can't get to him.<<
Is it just me, or does it seem odd that those monsters are called Mother of All
Hunters (or cyborgs) but people tend to say "it's wandering around" or "he's
shooting at me" and stuff like that? Shouldn't be something like "She's trying
to fry me" or "I blew her head off" or something to that effect?
Loren Petrich
In article <34CE80...@none.com>, na <No...@none.com> wrote:
>Can you make a weapon that "transports" the enemy out of the room?
The Marathon engine does not allow teleportation weapons, but that
would be an interesting idea.
... It would be nice to have big guns like in "Men In Black." ...
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The previous posting had mentioned teleportation weapons.
Here are some more possibilities:
* Stun weapons
Duke Nukem has its freezer gun, and Myth, the Fallen Lords has
"pus packets" that stun those nearby when broken.
* Mines
These can either be triggered by either something moving close or
by their layer. Duke Nukem's pipebombs are an example of the latter; the
first "fire" tosses one and the second "fire" detonates it.
* Trip bombs
Duke Nukem has those. It will make a laser beam, and crossing it
will explode the bomb.
Svywranth
Okay, here's how I think you could make a proximity mine. I'm not sure if it
would work, as I haven't tried it, but theoretically, it could.
Make a shot, like a grenade, have a speed of zero, or as close to zero as you
can get it. Make sure it isn't affected by gravity. Make it explosive. Set the
size of the shot as big as the area you want the "Proximity" to be.
Fire it and run. The first sucker to wander nearby will get blasted.
This, of course, depends on the shot not affecting its creator. If it does,
then as soon as you create it it will blow up and kill you. It does mean, that
if you lay the mine when you're right next to something, you'll get toasted
too.
gabriel rosenkoetter
In article <19980201085...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
svyw...@aol.com (Svywranth) wrote:
> This, of course, depends on the shot not affecting its creator. If it does,
> then as soon as you create it it will blow up and kill you. It does mean, that
> if you lay the mine when you're right next to something, you'll get toasted
> too.
No shots affect their creator. They start _within_ his column, so they
have to work this way to keep from damaging you just as you fire them.
The problems with your proximity mine, Svy, are these: 1) any kind of
mines eventually overload the engine, meaning that no one can fire any
shots till somebody blows up the mines that are floating around; 2) if
there's someone standing close behind or to the side of the player firing
the mine originally, they'll be in the proximity and blow the mine up
before it gets anywhere.
Actually, neither of those are exactly crippling (the mines, presuming you
drop them in much-frequented places, won't last very long, and if you run
around dropping armed mines with enemies nearby you're just stupid
anyway).
Svywranth
Gabe wrote:
>>Actually, neither of those are exactly crippling (the mines, presuming you
drop them in much-frequented places, won't last very long, and if you run
around dropping armed mines with enemies nearby you're just stupid
anyway).<<
True. (Actually, I mentioned that second problem in my post.)
Although they'd still accomplish the task: Make something that blows up with
someone comes near.
Christopher Henrik Lund
In article <19980201085...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, svyw...@aol.com (Svywranth) writes:
> Okay, here's how I think you could make a proximity mine. I'm not sure if it
> would work, as I haven't tried it, but theoretically, it could.
>
> Make a shot, like a grenade, have a speed of zero, or as close to zero as you
> can get it. Make sure it isn't affected by gravity. Make it explosive. Set the
> size of the shot as big as the area you want the "Proximity" to be.
Actually, that pretty much describes one of the (many) new weapons in a
scenario I and ~20 others am working on... Also, they first appeared
in Arx Immanis. Anyone remember that one? Best "evil castle" scenario ever.
Beat the hell out of Quake as well. Too bad there won't be a full scenario...
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Svywranth
C. Lund wrote:
>>Actually, that pretty much describes one of the (many) new weapons in a
scenario I and ~20 others am working on... Also, they first appeared
in Arx Immanis. Anyone remember that one? Best "evil castle" scenario ever.
Beat the hell out of Quake as well. Too bad there won't be a full scenario...<<
Oh, god, those evil little penta-fuckers that killed me! Yes, I remember those.
gads, I hated them, too. They always backfired.
Same thing with the mines in Descent. I just ignore using mines all together
now.
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