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RRcade

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Jun 12, 2008, 10:53:17 PM6/12/08
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I have a set for v eighty something and also v 120 what are the major
changes that would make me want to update, I can't see doing it just
because a couple games I never heard of were added, Part
two of my question....What is your favorite version of mame and why?
Thanks

Dave Griffith

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Jun 12, 2008, 11:49:57 PM6/12/08
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<shrug> Sound response seems a bit better with 125. Though, the weird
changes in the cheat system that have been going on over the past year
have me a bit irked.

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Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k)

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Jun 13, 2008, 10:25:59 AM6/13/08
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Don't upgrade until you find your version failing to
load certain ROMs...

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boardjunkie

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Jun 13, 2008, 7:01:46 PM6/13/08
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I still run .37b11. I like the scanline system better than later
versions. It has sound issues on some games, but I can live with that.
I can't live with the updated scanlines. I do have .102 or .103 just
for a couple of the newer games it supports. I don't play them, my 7
yr old does. I prefer my crusty old geezer games.....

Andreas Kohlbach

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Jun 13, 2008, 7:20:31 PM6/13/08
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I am not upgrading. The only thing I try to get the newest roms are the
184 for my MAME page to keep it up to date. I guess mainly newbies visit
it with a fresh installed MAME version, so it would be bad if just the
rom they were originally after doesn't run.
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Jun 14, 2008, 4:34:12 AM6/14/08
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RRcade wrote:
> I have a set for v eighty something and also v 120 what are the major
> changes that would make me want to update

Perfect emulation of Bubble Bobble. Who needs more of a reason than that? :)

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Roman Scherzer

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Jun 14, 2008, 5:04:22 AM6/14/08
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There are no reasons to keep old versions.

latest highlights:

generic dynamic recompilers
gaelco world rally decryption
not to even mention the tons of fixes especially for the classics

Syfo-Dyas

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Jun 15, 2008, 7:36:47 PM6/15/08
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On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:34:12 +0100, "\(O\)enone" <oen...@nowhere.com>
wrote:

OK, but at what version of mame did that happen??? I think a long
time ago... Am I wrong???

Syfo-Dyas

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Jun 15, 2008, 7:37:46 PM6/15/08
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On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:04:22 +0200, Roman Scherzer <cm...@1und1.de>
wrote:

Do you know which classics were fixed or a link or list of them???
Thanks!!!

SuperMappy

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Jun 15, 2008, 9:36:06 PM6/15/08
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"\(O\)enone" <oen...@nowhere.com> wrote in a cheese induced
comanews:g3003l$6pd$1...@aioe.org:

Damn good reason. Williams rocks. I was always drawn to their machines at
the arcades.

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SuperMappy

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Jun 15, 2008, 10:36:02 PM6/15/08
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SuperMappy <super...@REMOVETHIScolumbus.rr.com> wrote in a cheese
induced comanews:Xns9ABEDBC85BF35su...@66.250.146.128:

> "\(O\)enone" <oen...@nowhere.com> wrote in a cheese induced
> comanews:g3003l$6pd$1...@aioe.org:
>
>> RRcade wrote:
>>> I have a set for v eighty something and also v 120 what are the
>>> major changes that would make me want to update
>>
>> Perfect emulation of Bubble Bobble. Who needs more of a reason than
>> that? :)
>>
>
> Damn good reason. Williams rocks. I was always drawn to their machines
> at the arcades.
>

lol, hang on, I'm thinking of Bubbles.

(O)enone

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Jun 16, 2008, 4:44:38 AM6/16/08
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Syfo-Dyas wrote:
>> Perfect emulation of Bubble Bobble. Who needs more of a reason than
>> that? :)
>
> OK, but at what version of mame did that happen??? I think a long
> time ago... Am I wrong???

It was in version 0.108. (Well, specifically, 0.107u3, but I tend to ignore
the revision releases)

http://mamedev.org/mamenews/?m=200608

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Roman Scherzer

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Jun 16, 2008, 1:27:55 PM6/16/08
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> Do you know which classics were fixed or a link or list of them???

Well..have a look at the whatsnew files from the last releases and look
at the hundreds of fixes...

lob

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Jun 16, 2008, 7:57:10 PM6/16/08
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Roman Scherzer <cm...@1und1.de> wrote in news:g367qm$q2k$1...@online.de:

>> Do you know which classics were fixed or a link or list of them???
>
> Well..have a look at the whatsnew files from the last releases and look
> at the hundreds of fixes...
>

Coldplay wrote a song about the mame developers and all their fixes...

lob

Andreas Kohlbach

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Jun 16, 2008, 8:00:06 PM6/16/08
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SuperMappy wrote on 15. June 2008:
>
> SuperMappy <super...@REMOVETHIScolumbus.rr.com> wrote in a cheese
> induced comanews:Xns9ABEDBC85BF35su...@66.250.146.128:
>
>> "\(O\)enone" <oen...@nowhere.com> wrote in a cheese induced
>> comanews:g3003l$6pd$1...@aioe.org:
>>
>>> RRcade wrote:
>>>> I have a set for v eighty something and also v 120 what are the
>>>> major changes that would make me want to update
>>>
>>> Perfect emulation of Bubble Bobble. Who needs more of a reason than
>>> that? :)
>>>
>>
>> Damn good reason. Williams rocks. I was always drawn to their machines
>> at the arcades.

Me too. I recall when I saw Defender the first time in 1980. Wow, what a
sound and the graphics...

> lol, hang on, I'm thinking of Bubbles.

That game I hated.

FSogol

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Jun 17, 2008, 8:36:23 AM6/17/08
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Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> SuperMappy wrote on 15. June 2008:
>> SuperMappy <super...@REMOVETHIScolumbus.rr.com> wrote in a cheese
>> induced comanews:Xns9ABEDBC85BF35su...@66.250.146.128:
>>
>>> "\(O\)enone" <oen...@nowhere.com> wrote in a cheese induced
>>> comanews:g3003l$6pd$1...@aioe.org:
>>>
>>>> RRcade wrote:
>>>>> I have a set for v eighty something and also v 120 what are the
>>>>> major changes that would make me want to update
>>>> Perfect emulation of Bubble Bobble. Who needs more of a reason than
>>>> that? :)
>>>>
>>> Damn good reason. Williams rocks. I was always drawn to their machines
>>> at the arcades.
>
> Me too. I recall when I saw Defender the first time in 1980. Wow, what a
> sound and the graphics...
>
>> lol, hang on, I'm thinking of Bubbles.
>
> That game I hated.

Williams had the best attract screens and the best sound. Defender was
probably the coolest game in the arcade, at least until Tempest came
along years later.

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gamefixer

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Jun 18, 2008, 10:24:38 AM6/18/08
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I know it will never happen but I'm not upgrading until MAME uses
hardware acceleration of some sort. I'd love to be able to play Blitz
and its ilk! I'll stick with 1.02 for now.

Matt

Olivier Galibert

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Jun 18, 2008, 10:43:02 AM6/18/08
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On 2008-06-18, gamefixer <game...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I know it will never happen but I'm not upgrading until MAME uses
> hardware acceleration of some sort. I'd love to be able to play Blitz
> and its ilk! I'll stick with 1.02 for now.

Stupidity suits you.

OG.

Roman Scherzer

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Jun 18, 2008, 12:26:16 PM6/18/08
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> I know it will never happen but I'm not upgrading until MAME uses
> hardware acceleration of some sort. I'd love to be able to play Blitz
> and its ilk! I'll stick with 1.02 for now.

Blitz works fine here on my system. And why you ask? Because I can enjoy
the new updates, the generic DRC cores, the 64bit build, etc..etc...

gamefixer

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Jun 18, 2008, 3:31:43 PM6/18/08
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On Jun 18, 8:43 am, Olivier Galibert <galib...@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2008-06-18, gamefixer <gamefi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I know it will never happen but I'm not upgrading until MAME uses
> > hardware acceleration of some sort. I'd love to be able to play Blitz
> > and its ilk! I'll stick with 1.02 for now.
>
> Stupidity suits you.
>
>   OG.

Real nice. Takes one to know one! Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. :-)

Matt

gamefixer

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Jun 18, 2008, 3:32:43 PM6/18/08
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Hmm.. Well if thats the case then I might look into upgrading. I've
not bothered in a while since my kids mainly play the thing now.

Matt

Roman Scherzer

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Jun 18, 2008, 6:15:42 PM6/18/08
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dbh03079

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Jun 19, 2008, 9:50:16 AM6/19/08
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On Jun 14, 5:04 am, Roman Scherzer <cm...@1und1.de> wrote:
> RRcade wrote:
> > I have a set for v eighty something and also v 120 what are the major
> > changes that would make me want to update, I can't see doing it just
> > because a couple games I never heard of were added, Part
> > two of my question....What is your favorite version of mame and why?
> > Thanks
>
> There are no reasons to keep old versions.

Sure there are. Being able to watch old replays from MARP that were
recorded with old versions is a top one for me. Another is that even
though there have been lots of fixes for many classics, there are
still
cases where an older version plays "better". An interesting case in
point
is Ms Pac Man. A kill-screen capable player says that he uses MAME
0.90 to practice because it behaves closer to how the actual arcade
machine plays than other versions he has tried (like 0.78, 0.106).
A third is that the older versions will actually run on older
computers
which is all that some people may have.

Syfo-Dyas

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Jun 19, 2008, 10:47:21 PM6/19/08
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On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:50:16 -0700 (PDT), dbh03079
<dbh0...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Jun 14, 5:04 am, Roman Scherzer <cm...@1und1.de> wrote:
>> RRcade wrote:
>> > I have a set for v eighty something and also v 120 what are the major
>> > changes that would make me want to update, I can't see doing it just
>> > because a couple games I never heard of were added, Part
>> > two of my question....What is your favorite version of mame and why?
>> > Thanks
>>
>> There are no reasons to keep old versions.
>
>Sure there are. Being able to watch old replays from MARP that were
>recorded with old versions is a top one for me. Another is that even
>though there have been lots of fixes for many classics, there are
>still
>cases where an older version plays "better". An interesting case in
>point
>is Ms Pac Man. A kill-screen capable player says that he uses MAME
>0.90 to practice because it behaves closer to how the actual arcade
>machine plays than other versions he has tried (like 0.78, 0.106).
>A third is that the older versions will actually run on older
>computers
>which is all that some people may have.


I agree with all of these reasons.

lob

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Jun 22, 2008, 1:15:48 AM6/22/08
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fa...@mame.com

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Jul 3, 2008, 9:08:21 AM7/3/08
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for me it was version 1.09 using mame plus. I spent a year going through
all the games to make them workable with my control layout and actually
writing down what each button did. I would like to make the writings public
but I do not know an easy way to remove the metainformation from word 97
that I used to write them. I tried to update to verion either it was 1.22
or 1.23. and the first 2 out of three games I tried to play were broken. I
mean how can you break donkey kong. Secondly how light guns were handled in
those versions caused me major problems. and the fact that no one had fixed
primal rage yet ( the control buttons in config were insufficient for the
amount of buttons on the actual game) . I converted back to my original
1.09 and was happy. You don't have to have the latest and most roms but you
do have to be happy with the version you have and that is your best guide.
If you want to look at the later version of mame and see if they support a
game you really want if not and you are happy with what you got then don't
update.

James Clement

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