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Paul

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Mar 14, 2003, 11:32:33 AM3/14/03
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Since I have kids who want to play with Mame, I wanted to remove all the
dirty games from the rom set so I won't have to supervise them while they
play. Well, I went through the painful task of scanning through all 3500+
games, moved the questionable ones to a folder (I based my choices on
looking at the snapshot and name of each game), then created a batch file
from the custom.ini file. If you want to clean up your kids' Mame
installation, copy the lines below to a batch file, then run the batch in
the ROMS and SAMPLES directories. You can then change the batch file so that
.zip is changed to .png, then unzip snap.zip and clean up the snapshots too.
Then rezip the remaining files back to snap.zip again. This gets rid of most
of the Mahjong games, and other random ones like the Peekabo breakout games,
and few indecent "girly" pinball games and a few other stray ones. There are
about 3200 games left in my rom set now.....still more than my kids can play
in their lifetime. This is a crude batch file, but it worked for me. I think
I got most of the bad ones. I'd be curious to hear if anyone comes across
any others. Hope this helps some of you......

del apparel.zip
del ataxxj.zip
del av2mj1bb.zip
del bakuhatu.zip
del bananadr.zip
del bijokkog.zip
del bijokkoy.zip
del birdtry.zip
del ccasino.zip
del cclimbr2.zip
del chinatwn.zip
del chinmoku.zip
del citylove.zip
del club90s.zip
del club90sa.zip
del cmehyou.zip
del crystal2.zip
del crystalg.zip
del cworld.zip
del cworld2j.zip
del daiyogen.zip
del eto.zip
del finalbny.zip
del fromanc2.zip
del fromanc4.zip
del fromancr.zip
del gakupara.zip
del gakusai.zip
del gakusai2.zip
del gal10ren.zip
del galkaika.zip
del galkoku.zip
del galpani4.zip
del galpanis.zip
del galpans2.zip
del gekiretu.zip
del gionbana.zip
del hanamomo.zip
del hanaoji.zip
del hatena.zip
del heberpop.zip
del hexion.zip
del hgkairak.zip
del hotdebut.zip
del hotgmck.zip
del hourouki.zip
del housemn2.zip
del housemnq.zip
del hyhoo.zip
del hyhoo2.zip
del hyouban.zip
del hypreac2.zip
del hypreact.zip
del idhimitu.zip
del idolmj.zip
del iemoto.zip
del imekura.zip
del jogakuen.zip
del kaguya.zip
del keithlcy.zip
del kirameki.zip
del koinomp.zip
del korinai.zip
del lemnangl.zip
del logicpr2.zip
del maiko.zip
del marvlanj.zip
del mcontest.zip
del meosism.zip
del mfunclub.zip
del mgmen89.zip
del mhgaiden.zip
del mj4simai.zip
del mjanbari.zip
del mjcamera.zip
del mjclinic.zip
del mjegolf.zip
del mjfocus.zip
del mjfocusm.zip
del mjgottsu.zip
del mjhokite.zip
del mjikaga.zip
del mjkinjas.zip
del mjkjidai.zip
del mjkoiura.zip
del mjkojink.zip
del mjlaman.zip
del mjlstory.zip
del mjnanpaa.zip
del mjnanpas.zip
del mjnanpau.zip
del mjnatsu.zip
del mjnquest.zip
del mjsikakb.zip
del mjsikaku.zip
del mjsister.zip
del mjuraden.zip
del mjyougo.zip
del mjyuugi.zip
del mjyuugia.zip
del mkeibaou.zip
del mladyhtr.zip
del mmcamera.zip
del mmehyou.zip
del moegonta.zip
del mrokumei.zip
del mscoutm.zip
del msjiken.zip
del myangel.zip
del myangel2.zip
del nekkyoku.zip
del ngpgal.zip
del niyanpai.zip
del ntopstar.zip
del ojanko2.zip
del ojankohs.zip
del ojankoy.zip
del ojousan.zip
del otatidai.zip
del pachiten.zip
del pairsten.zip
del panicstr.zip
del pastelgl.zip
del patimono.zip
del pcktgal.zip
del peepshow.zip
del pfghtj.zip
del pipibibi.zip
del pipibibs.zip
del pnickj.zip
del ponchin.zip
del ponchina.zip
del psailor1.zip
del psailor2.zip
del psoldier.zip
del pstadium.zip
del puchicar.zip
del pulirulj.zip
del punkshtj.zip
del puyopuy2.zip
del puyopuya.zip
del puyopuyo.zip
del pzlbowl.zip
del qadj.zip
del qcrayon.zip
del qcrayon2.zip
del qgakumon.zip
del qjinsei.zip
del qmhayaku.zip
del qndream.zip
del qsangoku.zip
del qtheater.zip
del qtono1.zip
del qtono2.zip
del qtorimon.zip
del quizdna.zip
del quizhq.zip
del quizhuhu.zip
del quiztou.zip
del qzchikyu.zip
del qzquest.zip
del qzshowby.zip
del renaiclb.zip
del rmhaihib.zip
del rmhaijin.zip
del rmhaisei.zip
del ryorioh.zip
del sailorwr.zip
del sailorws.zip
del scandal.zip
del scandalm.zip
del secolove.zip
del seiha.zip
del seiham.zip
del shangha2.zip
del shangha3.zip
del shanghai.zip
del shisen.zip
del sokonuke.zip
del spf2xj.zip
del srmp2.zip
del srmp3.zip
del srmp4.zip
del srmp7.zip
del sshangha.zip
del ssrdrjbd.zip
del stkclmns.zip
del sxyreact.zip
del telmahjn.zip
del themj.zip
del tokimbsj.zip
del tokyogal.zip
del triplew1.zip
del triplew2.zip
del uchuuai.zip
del ultramhm.zip
del vampj.zip
del vampja.zip
del vampjr1.zip
del vanilla.zip
del vipclub.zip
del vitaminc.zip
del vsmahjng.zip
del whoopee.zip
del yuyugogo.zip
del atehate.zip
del av2mj2rg.zip
del bakatono.zip
del bkrtmaq.zip
del chiller.zip
del dokyusei.zip
del dokyusp.zip
del dragwld2.zip
del fantasia.zip
del fantsia2.zip
del fromance.zip
del galpanic.zip
del galspnbl.zip
del ginkun.zip
del gumbo.zip
del hanaawas.zip
del hayaosi1.zip
del hotpinbl.zip
del hustler.zip
del janjans1.zip
del janshin.zip
del jjparad2.zip
del jjparads.zip
del kanatuen.zip
del karianx.zip
del kirarast.zip
del kiwame.zip
del ladykill.zip
del magdrop2.zip
del magdrop3.zip
del mahretsu.zip
del marukin.zip
del marukodq.zip
del mayumi.zip
del mgakuen.zip
del mgakuen2.zip
del miexchng.zip
del minasan.zip
del missw96.zip
del mjdiplob.zip
del mosyougi.zip
del mouja.zip
del multchmp.zip
del naname.zip
del newfant.zip
del nmsengen.zip
del ohmygod.zip
del orangec.zip
del otonano.zip
del peekaboo.zip
del perestro.zip
del pkladies.zip
del plgirls.zip
del puzzli.zip
del quizdai2.zip
del quizdais.zip
del quizf1.zip
del quizkof.zip
del quizmoon.zip
del qzkklgy2.zip
del qzkklogy.zip
del rmhaihai.zip
del royalmah.zip
del ryouran.zip
del sailormn.zip
del scudhamm.zip
del shuuz.zip
del sotsugyo.zip
del splash.zip
del teljan.zip
del thehustl.zip
del tontonb.zip
del toride2g.zip
del ttmahjng.zip
del yesnoj.zip
del zerozone.zip


innocent_lamb

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Mar 14, 2003, 11:44:06 AM3/14/03
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:32:33 +0000, Paul wrote:

> Since I have kids who want to play with Mame, I wanted to remove all the
> dirty games from the rom set so I won't have to supervise them while they
> play.

"Dirty" games, eh?

Sheesh, talk about re-inventing the wheel.

http://www.mameworld.net/mcm/

Incidentally, did you also delete all of the "violent" games? If not,
what are you waiting for?

It's amazing to me the number of people who think of Mame as a babysitter
for their kids. It's never been intended to be a children's toy.

Kevin Steele

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Mar 14, 2003, 11:52:51 AM3/14/03
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innocent_lamb nos...@example.com thought long and hard, then said...

> It's amazing to me the number of people who think of Mame as a babysitter
> for their kids. It's never been intended to be a children's toy.

It's not a baby-sitter, but a lot of us do play it with our kids or let
them pick their own games to play.

It's amazing to me that you are getting so bent out of shape that
someone else only wants to play certain games. It's not like he's trying
to ban the "dirty" games for everyone. I though you'd respect other
people's freedom to choose what games they have installed on their
system.

--
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Super Mappy

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Mar 14, 2003, 12:04:21 PM3/14/03
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True :) Mame is the new TV and ironically I got a TV in my cab! OOOOO the
IRONY!

While I agree it's impossible to watch your children every second, I also
never played any of these "dirty" games in the local arcades when i was
younger. THey must have been in the bars or mens' clubs.

--
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FSogol

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Mar 14, 2003, 12:03:29 PM3/14/03
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Paul wrote:
> Since I have kids who want to play with Mame, I wanted to remove all the
> dirty games from the rom set so I won't have to supervise them while they
> play.


> del puyopuyo.zip

How is this dirty or X-rated? It a version of Tetris.
Here's what you are teaching your kids:
Playing games you did not pay for = good
Seeing a breast = bad
Also, good luck cleaning up the whole world for your kids.

Christ's Soldiers

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Mar 14, 2003, 12:05:08 PM3/14/03
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In the land of alt.games.mame, the word of the Lord came to Kevin
Steele and verily he spoke saying:

> innocent_lamb nos...@example.com thought long and hard, then
> said...
>> It's amazing to me the number of people who think of Mame as a
>> babysitter for their kids.
>

> It's amazing to me that you are getting so bent out of shape that
> someone else only wants to play certain games.

I personally deleted them before I had kids : P


--
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http://www.tombstones.org.uk/~jbaker

Romulous

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Mar 14, 2003, 12:06:41 PM3/14/03
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Hmm, i think you miss the point Lamb.

I have done a couple of collections for friends who have kids, and running
MAME Content Manager.

Certainly my friends do not use this as a baby sitting tool, in fact the
kids are only allowed to play MAME for about an hour at weekends - and thats
providing that they have been behaving, done thier schoolwork etc.

I would hate to think that MAME is being used in such a way, but then again,
some people in the world probably dont know any better.

--
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Christ's Soldiers

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Mar 14, 2003, 12:35:28 PM3/14/03
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:04:21 GMT, Super Mappy
<super...@REMOVETHIScolumbus.rr.com> wrote:


>While I agree it's impossible to watch your children every second,
>I also never played any of these "dirty" games in the local arcades
>when i was younger. THey must have been in the bars or mens' clubs.

Unfortunately I played a lot of video games in bars when I was quite
young due to my fathers habits and I "still" never saw any of these
games. As to the "gentlemen's clubs" what a contradiction in terms
;^)

Christ's Soldiers

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Mar 14, 2003, 12:40:07 PM3/14/03
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In the land of alt.games.mame, the word of the Lord came to FSogol

and verily he spoke saying:

> Here's what you are teaching your kids:
> Playing games you did not pay for = good
> Seeing a breast = bad

yes...and your point is?

innocent_lamb

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Mar 14, 2003, 12:53:11 PM3/14/03
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:52:51 +0000, Kevin Steele wrote:

> It's amazing to me that you are getting so bent out of shape that
> someone else only wants to play certain games. It's not like he's trying
> to ban the "dirty" games for everyone. I though you'd respect other
> people's freedom to choose what games they have installed on their
> system.

I do respect people's "freedom to choose". However, I also believe it to
be hypocritical when someone is busily "censoring" Pachinko Sexy Reaction,
but has no problem with leaving Time Killers on the list of available
games.

And, as I said, Mame isn't intended to be a children's toy so censorship
of this type is irrelevant to the project at the best of times.

I suppose that I mostly take exception to the subject line chosen by the
original poster. "dirty/x-rated games"? They are arcade games, folks,
and they have been included in Mame for a reason; that reason is not (in
fact) to "see boobiez".

One lamb's humble opinion, of course.

FSogol

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Mar 14, 2003, 1:11:42 PM3/14/03
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Christ's Soldiers wrote:
> In the land of alt.games.mame, the word of the Lord came to FSogol
> and verily he spoke saying:
>
>
>
>>Here's what you are teaching your kids:
>>Playing games you did not pay for = good
>>Seeing a breast = bad
>
>
> yes...and your point is?
>

My point is his ethics are shaky.
Many of the games deal with violence. The game Chiller
is much worse than any adult game on mame.
The op is keeping the violence in and removing the topless cartoon girls.
While he is free to do as he wishes, I feel his kids would be better
protected with a more intelligent survey of appropriate and
inappropriate games.

PS. Why remove Puyopuyo?

James Tipper

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Mar 14, 2003, 1:18:00 PM3/14/03
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Don't forget Satan's Hollow. No matter how badly rendered the Dark Lord is,
his palpable evil can still rip the soul from your children's bodies.
Delete Robotron too. Artificial intelligence is an affront to The Creator,
Burger Time makes kids think that fast food is okay and leads to morbidly
obese and sluggish children.
(sheesh)

- James

Est'd 1969


Crazy Climber

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In article <s1pca.773$FN.4...@news2.news.adelphia.net>, James Tipper
<jti...@adelphia.net> wrote:


I know a kid that went around "chomping" people after playing PacMan.

My question is not how to remove the "dirty" games, but how can I add
*more* ? ;-)

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James Tipper

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speak for yourself *pant* boobiez...glorious boobiez. Come to Papa pretty
boobiez.
*Oops...am I saying this out loud?*

--

James Tipper

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I'm with you brother. Together we will rule the universe!
MWA HA HA HA *cough*

Christ's Soldiers

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In the land of alt.games.mame, the word of the Lord came to FSogol
and verily he spoke saying:

>
>
> Christ's Soldiers wrote:
>> In the land of alt.games.mame, the word of the Lord came to
>> FSogol and verily he spoke saying:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Here's what you are teaching your kids:
>>>Playing games you did not pay for = good
>>>Seeing a breast = bad
>>
>>
>> yes...and your point is?
>>

> While he is free to do as he wishes, I feel his kids would


> be better protected with a more intelligent survey of appropriate
> and inappropriate games.

Understood. However I feel that whenever you give advice to another
person as to what is best for their child you tread on dangerous
ground. The op made no assertion as to where he stood ethically or
morally he simply stated "hey I made this .bat file. If you want it
here you go" At which you presumed to make a decisicon for him as to
what sort of ethics he should be teaching his children. I for one
have no problems allowing my children to see LOTR or Star Wars which
portray violence and even glorify it. I will however in no way
subject them to movies that contain nudity of any sort. Before you go
on to make the point of how I am blinding out what cannot be avoided
in the real world or some other nonsense you should know that my
children are two years old and in my opinion do not need to know
about the real world yet. That being said I will teach them what I
believe is right and bullocks to the rest of the world because I am
their father. If anyone disagrees with that to bad, raise your own
kids. When they are old enough to make their own choices I will let
them, until then I decide. Sorry for the rant and I have nothing
against you personally I just feel we should offer advice as such
when requested and leave parenting to the respective parents. Their
are far worse things to which the child could be subject, heck read
my home page ;^)

>
> PS. Why remove Puyopuyo?
>
>

I dunno it is a fun game! Like he said he based it on screenshots,
he's entitled to error.

FSogol

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Mar 14, 2003, 1:51:46 PM3/14/03
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Christ's Soldiers wrote:
> In the land of alt.games.mame, the word of the Lord came to FSogol
> and verily he spoke saying:

>>While he is free to do as he wishes, I feel his kids would


>>be better protected with a more intelligent survey of appropriate
>>and inappropriate games.
>
>
> Understood. However I feel that whenever you give advice to another
> person as to what is best for their child you tread on dangerous
> ground.

Believe it or not, I agree with you.

The op made no assertion as to where he stood ethically or
> morally he simply stated "hey I made this .bat file. If you want it
> here you go"

No, he did insert a moral/ethical opinion with his subject line. He
called them dirty/x-rated games. Most are PG-13 or R rated at best.
Very few would get an X-rating.

>
>>PS. Why remove Puyopuyo?
>
> I dunno it is a fun game! Like he said he based it on screenshots,
> he's entitled to error.
>

It is unthinking censorship, which was my main objection to his post.

Landshark

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Mar 14, 2003, 1:59:20 PM3/14/03
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:53:11 -0600, innocent_lamb <nos...@example.com> wrote:
> I do respect people's "freedom to choose". However, I also believe it to
> be hypocritical when someone is busily "censoring" Pachinko Sexy Reaction,
> but has no problem with leaving Time Killers on the list of available
> games.

Hey, I grew up with pr0n, violence, and guns. I turned out ok =) (well
maybe)

I had lots of video games to keep me busy though!

--
-dave

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and it holds the universe together. - Carl Zwanzig

Super Mappy

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Don't forget "Blockade". It's keeping me down trying to box me in! I
can't take it anymore! THE WALLS, THE WALLS!!!!

Super Mappy

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>
> I know a kid that went around "chomping" people after playing PacMan.
>

does Ms. Pacman have this effect on girls? Maybe my wife
shoulda......forget it.

chris jordan

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I am with you on this one....As far as I can tell there isn't ENOUGH of
them...(more Japanese games MUST be dumped and emulated.)
Does beg the question thou the only one of these "dirty" games I have ever
seen in an arcade was "pocket gal" and that's not the most "revealing" game.
Where exactly would up see some one playing "Poker Ladies"?
do we even care?

CJ

P.s
up should also delete splatter house as it tells children that puting on a
hockey mask and taking revenge is ok..as is shooting your girlfriend with a
12 gauge (if she turns in to a mutant)


bob

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"chris jordan" <dead...@ntlworld.com> wrote in
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> I am with you on this one....As far as I can tell there isn't ENOUGH
> of them...(more Japanese games MUST be dumped and emulated.)
> Does beg the question thou the only one of these "dirty" games I have
> ever seen in an arcade was "pocket gal" and that's not the most
> "revealing" game. Where exactly would up see some one playing "Poker
> Ladies"? do we even care?

I remember a strip poker game (probably called "Strip Poker") in the game
room in Findlay Commons at Penn State. It was in the corner, past
Gauntlet (with my initials), across from the pinball machines. It was
eventually replaced by Afterburner, iirc. The last time I was there the
entire room had been closed off and converted to some other purpose.
Sniff.

Bob

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"innocent_lamb" <nos...@example.com> wrote in message
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With my family, violence isnt a big issue. We know its not real when a
character punches someone's head off, however a naked lady is real. I grew
up watching Rambo and other "violent" things from early on, but sex is
purely an adult thing and thats why there are laws preventing anything
overly sexual for kids (don't go saying there are laws against violence now,
because if all parties involved are willing some violence is legal).


Renegade

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Mar 14, 2003, 4:56:39 PM3/14/03
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In article <3E720B61...@nospamplease.net>, sog...@nospamplease.net
says...

> Here's what you are teaching your kids:
> Playing games you did not pay for = good
> Seeing a breast = bad
> Also, good luck cleaning up the whole world for your kids.
>
>
In the above statement I could turn it around on you, if your 8 yr old
son plays mame and the games as stated above then in that case you should
have no problem either allowing your son to sit and read playboy correct?
in fact some pictures in these games would never make it to playboy so I
guess you would have to buy him a swank, or a hustler instead...

I understand what your saying though. Point is life can be violent,
can't turn on the news without being reminded. BUT I do beleive that SOME
violence on T.V. can be a good teacher, it shows them life can be
dangerous, that for every action they take there is a reaction too. Hit
someone and they just may hit back, perform a violent act and many people
are effected along with the punishment that goes along with those acts.

Point is at this time in history there is NO WAY to prevent any child
from seeing violence on t.v., in real life, etc... sad though but true,
but the need to see naked women be it on t.v., books or vid games does
nothing to further my 7 yr old sons life at this time, later yes but now
no... and again sad to say but this is one of the few things parents
still can control to a point..


Renegade

Kevin Steele

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Mar 14, 2003, 5:01:59 PM3/14/03
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Christ's Soldiers christs...@hotmail.com thought long and hard,
then said...

> Understood. However I feel that whenever you give advice to another
> person as to what is best for their child you tread on dangerous
> ground.

I don't really have much to add, other than I love your X-face...very
apropo for this thread!

Okaliy Dokaliy...(however it's spelled...)

Kevin Steele

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innocent_lamb nos...@example.com thought long and hard, then said...
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:52:51 +0000, Kevin Steele wrote:
>
> > It's amazing to me that you are getting so bent out of shape that
> > someone else only wants to play certain games. It's not like he's trying
> > to ban the "dirty" games for everyone. I though you'd respect other
> > people's freedom to choose what games they have installed on their
> > system.
>
> I do respect people's "freedom to choose". However, I also believe it to
> be hypocritical when someone is busily "censoring" Pachinko Sexy Reaction,
> but has no problem with leaving Time Killers on the list of available
> games.

Everyone has their own "threshold" -- he wanted to get rid of the
"dirty" games first.

I've filtered out the adult games and a few of the more violent ones
(Chiller, etc.) on my system. I'm actually more against fighter games
than I am the adult ones (I've let my older son play Pachinko Sexy
Reaction once or twice), but everything in time. A parent has to make
their own decisions about what they want their children exposed to, and
when.

> And, as I said, Mame isn't intended to be a children's toy so censorship
> of this type is irrelevant to the project at the best of times.

MAME may not be a toy, but everyone with a cab is using it as such. He's
not creating "censorship" for the project -- all he's done is remove the
games he finds objectionable, and shared his .bat with others. How does
this impact the MAME project? Is everyone required to have a full un-
filtered set?

> I suppose that I mostly take exception to the subject line chosen by the
> original poster. "dirty/x-rated games"? They are arcade games, folks,
> and they have been included in Mame for a reason; that reason is not (in
> fact) to "see boobiez".

I agree that the "dirty/x-rated" thing is overblown, but I respect his
right to choose what he plays. He's not required to have every game
that's been emulated in MAME.

> One lamb's humble opinion, of course.

My humble opinion as well.

SINNER

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While strolling through alt.games.mame, Renegade was overheard plotting:

> Point is at this time in history there is NO WAY to prevent any child
> from seeing violence on t.v., in real life, etc... sad though but true,
> but the need to see naked women be it on t.v., books or vid games does
> nothing to further my 7 yr old sons life at this time, later yes but now
> no... and again sad to say but this is one of the few things parents
> still can control to a point..
>

I still dont see how Violence, real or not is better than looking at
something they can see in the mirror or when in the bathroom with mommy or
daddy, but, that said, to each his/her own.

IMO if you cut out one, you should cut out both, but again, thats my
opinion.

--
David

SINNER

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While strolling through alt.games.mame, Super Mappy was overheard plotting:

> does Ms. Pacman have this effect on girls? Maybe my wife
> shoulda......forget it.
>

If it did, with all that Pac Yellow in your cab your lucky to have your 2
'Power Pills' still attached :)

--
David

Landshark

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On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:10:56 GMT, SINNER <99ne...@ibtta.gov> wrote:
> I still dont see how Violence, real or not is better than looking at
> something they can see in the mirror or when in the bathroom with mommy or
> daddy, but, that said, to each his/her own.

Well ... what you may see in the mirror with "mommy" or "daddy" isn't
necessarily the same pose or action you may see in a game... (gotta stop
typing there or i'm gonna get sick)

The Browns

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"Kevin Steele" <mail...@usa.net> wrote in message
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> Everyone has their own "threshold" -- he wanted to get rid of the
> "dirty" games first.

Exactly, and who's to say he doesn't claim the really violent games as being
dirty? He never specifically said anything about violent ones, just
"dirty/xrated". I know I put chiller and some of the other ones in a
catergory as being "dirty".


Andy Cassady

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Mar 14, 2003, 6:53:53 PM3/14/03
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Thank you for the checklist... I knew I hadn't played them all, yet! :)

My parents censored my recreational activities(TV and movies), so I just
got it elsewhere... Their censorship even encouraged me to seek out
films with sex and violence. Kids learn about sex and violence if they
want to and no amount of censorship at home can curb their curiosity.

BTW: You forgot Pu.Li.Ru.La. Lots of innuendo and gratuitous long bare
legs in that one... You forgot Puzznic, too-Looks okay until you beat a
couple rounds... What's that behind that brick wall?! :)

-Andy C

Paul wrote:
>
> del apparel.zip
> del ataxxj.zip
> del av2mj1bb.zip
> del bakuhatu.zip
> del bananadr.zip
> del bijokkog.zip
> del bijokkoy.zip
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Jeff Shanholtz

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"Landshark" <land...@verticaladdiction.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:10:56 GMT, SINNER <99ne...@ibtta.gov> wrote:
> > I still dont see how Violence, real or not is better than looking at
> > something they can see in the mirror or when in the bathroom with mommy
or
> > daddy, but, that said, to each his/her own.
>
> Well ... what you may see in the mirror with "mommy" or "daddy" isn't
> necessarily the same pose or action you may see in a game... (gotta stop
> typing there or i'm gonna get sick)

And when my son is 7 or 8, I don't want him to see mommy in the mirror
anyway! There's a clear difference between the two and obviously people
differ on which is worse. I'm guessing that most of the people saying the
nudity is fine (or not worse than violence) don't have kids (but I could be
wrong).


Jeff Shanholtz

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"Andy Cassady" <cass...@diNOSPAMmensional.com> wrote in message
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> My parents censored my recreational activities(TV and movies), so I just
> got it elsewhere... Their censorship even encouraged me to seek out
> films with sex and violence. Kids learn about sex and violence if they
> want to and no amount of censorship at home can curb their curiosity.

And yet that doesn't mean parents should implicitly endorse sexually
explicit stuff by letting their kids do or watch what they want.


Landshark

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I think I stumbled into alt.games.morality :)

That is true that kids will seek out what they are prohibited from. But
there are other things that once they are given access to, that they
seek out more. All part of that parenting thing :)

Kevin Steele

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Andy Cassady cass...@diNOSPAMmensional.com thought long and hard, then
said...

> Thank you for the checklist... I knew I hadn't played them all, yet! :)
>
> My parents censored my recreational activities(TV and movies), so I just
> got it elsewhere... Their censorship even encouraged me to seek out
> films with sex and violence. Kids learn about sex and violence if they
> want to and no amount of censorship at home can curb their curiosity.

So what would your recommended viewlist for my 3-year old and 5-year old
sons be? A few of the classics such as Debbie Does Dallas, The Devil in
Miss Jones, and the Texas Chainsaw Massacre?

There's a time and age for sex and violence, and the parent gets to
choose. You obviously disagreed with your parent's choices, which is
your right too.

(BTW, did you have to quote all 300 lines of the bat file in your
reply?)

SINNER

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While strolling through alt.games.mame, Jeff Shanholtz was overheard plotting:

>
> And when my son is 7 or 8, I don't want him to see mommy in the mirror
> anyway! There's a clear difference between the two and obviously people
> differ on which is worse. I'm guessing that most of the people saying the
> nudity is fine (or not worse than violence) don't have kids (but I could be
> wrong).
>
>
I don't have kids, but I was a kid. I am also 34 years old. I caught my
parents 'doing it' pretty young, so I got 'The Talk' accordingly as I
ran into my room crying ;)

I still think I would rather my children became comfortable with nudity
before they became comfortable with violence. Watching a movie and
telling your children "That's not real" makes it that much more
difficult for a child to separate reality from fantasy. With nudity,
there is nothing intrinsically wrong wrong with it. That said there are
some games with material even I admit to being objectionable, but to
take every game that shows skin out is not necessary as some are quite
'soft'.

One SINNER's opinion, may he be forgiven :)

--
David
Luke, I'm yer father, eh. Come over to the dark side, you hoser.
-- Dave Thomas, "Strange Brew"

Paul

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Wow - interesting how my batch raise such a stir. Thanks for the response
Christssoldier, couldn't have said it better myself.

"Christ's Soldiers" <christs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Paul

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Wow....interesting to see so much feedback in such a short period. I read
through most of the responses, and think most people got my point of making
the batch file. For others it appeared too much for their little brains to
handle.

Everyone raises their kids their own way. Also, every kid in every family is
different as well. Example, if you have a 7 year old son that tends to like
to fight and be destructible, then maybe his parent can make a batch file to
remove the violent games from Mame for him. For me I happen to have two
little girls that tend to have an interest in anything having to do with
other girls. When they come across a violent game in Mame, they just plain
aren't interested and hit escape (they're girls, can you blame them). But if
they come across any game with a girl on the snapshot, they tend to have an
interest and will attempt to play. Obviously I don't want my girls seeing
the smut games, so I chose to include these in my batch file. As for which
games I chose, you have to understand, I am a very busy person, and don't
have much time to scroll through 3500 games one by one. So what I did was
scroll through each VERY quickly. If the snapshot looked the LEAST bit
questionable, I included it in the batch, plain and simple. So games you may
think shouldn't be on the list might have made it. When you're scrolling
through 150 games per minute, theres not much time to decide, I was out for
the smutty, dirty, or xrated, ones (whatever the heck you want to call them)
and I think I got most.

Now if my girls want to play a few games while I'm in the other room, they
won't come across the smutty ones. And if they come across the violent ones,
they don't normally play them anyway. If I find out otherwise down the road,
then maybe I'll create a new batch then. To each his own. Raise your kids as
demented as you want. Since this took me MANY hours to do, I simply posted
to save someone some time. All I know is, now I feel much better scrolling
through the list of (now 3200) games, and I'm not going to shock my kids,
family members, or anyone who happens to be over visiting while scrolling
through the list.

Most of the people who responded with some strange, backwards remark, I bet
either don't have kids and wouldn't understand a parent to kid situation, or
maybe you have kids but since your parents did such a poor job raising you,
you have no clue how to raise your own. Or maybe you just can't have kids
and are pissed off at people who have them?

So much for trying to save a few people some time......

Bash away! ;)


"Paul" <pau...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> Since I have kids who want to play with Mame, I wanted to remove all the
> dirty games from the rom set so I won't have to supervise them while they
> play. Well, I went through the painful task of scanning through all 3500+
> games, moved the questionable ones to a folder (I based my choices on
> looking at the snapshot and name of each game), then created a batch file
> from the custom.ini file. If you want to clean up your kids' Mame
> installation, copy the lines below to a batch file, then run the batch in
> the ROMS and SAMPLES directories. You can then change the batch file so
that
> .zip is changed to .png, then unzip snap.zip and clean up the snapshots
too.
> Then rezip the remaining files back to snap.zip again. This gets rid of
most
> of the Mahjong games, and other random ones like the Peekabo breakout
games,
> and few indecent "girly" pinball games and a few other stray ones. There
are
> about 3200 games left in my rom set now.....still more than my kids can
play
> in their lifetime. This is a crude batch file, but it worked for me. I
think
> I got most of the bad ones. I'd be curious to hear if anyone comes across
> any others. Hope this helps some of you......

Paul

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EXACTLY. My kids are always going to be curious about drugs, so I cut to the
chase and bought them a big bag of pot for their 8th birthday. Now they
won't have to be curious and won't have to go find anything elsewhere. Their
in my home, safe and sound with the stuff. Hah!

Dense crowd in here.....


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Paul

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-=ceebs=-

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You complain about games with questionable content yet you are teaching
your kids about stealing (ie playing pirated arcade games, unless you
own all 3200 roms you speak of) Maybe your batch file should read del
*.*

--
-=ceebs=-

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Dave M.

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Mar 14, 2003, 11:56:51 PM3/14/03
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FSogol <sog...@nospamplease.net> wrote in
news:3E7224C2...@nospamplease.net:

> The op made no assertion as to where he stood ethically or
>> morally he simply stated "hey I made this .bat file. If you want it
>> here you go"
>
> No, he did insert a moral/ethical opinion with his subject line. He
> called them dirty/x-rated games. Most are PG-13 or R rated at best.
> Very few would get an X-rating.

I would most definitely have to disagree here. The cartoon games are
mostly pretty tame, but I think most of the "photographic" games are a bit
more explicit than an R-rating would allow. (And yes, I conducted a survey
for *ahem* scientific purposes. :)

Beyond the ratings, however, the presentation of a few of the games is
pretty questionable. I find the girl's teary-eyed reluctance to strip in
Don Den Lover Vol. 1, frankly, disturbing. Even if I weren't a sexually
repressed American, I wouldn't expose my children to this.


>>
>>>PS. Why remove Puyopuyo?
>>
>> I dunno it is a fun game! Like he said he based it on screenshots,
>> he's entitled to error.
>>
> It is unthinking censorship, which was my main objection to his post.

I wouldn't call it unthinking. He couldn't realistically play all 3000+
games, and so he did the best he could by looking at names and screenshots.

I *would* however call it censorship. Normally, I reject censorship of any
kind instinctively. In this case, however, I find it perfectly acceptable.
He is censoring material for his own children. I say it is a parent's
*job* to censor anything they feel their child is not mature enough to
handle. That's the whole point, children aren't ready to deal with
everything right from the start. You have to filter their experiences and
allow them to learn a little at a time.

-Dave

Dave M.

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"Paul" <pau...@adelphia.net> wrote in
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> Since I have kids who want to play with Mame, I wanted to remove all
> the dirty games from the rom set so I won't have to supervise them
> while they play. Well, I went through the painful task of scanning
> through all 3500+ games, moved the questionable ones to a folder

<snip>

Another option would have been to use a frontend like Emuloader
(http://www.mameworld.net/emuloader/), which has a Parental Lock function.
It allows you to search the games by keyword, and password lock those which
you don't want your kids playing. Of course, this does leave the ROMs
available on this disk, which you may or may not be comfortable with,
depending on how devious your kids are. :)

-Dave

Andy Cassady

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Kevin Steele typed:

>Andy Cassady cass...@diNOSPAMmensional.com thought long and hard, then
said...
>
>> Thank you for the checklist... I knew I hadn't played them all, yet! :)
>>
>> My parents censored my recreational activities(TV and movies), so I
just
>> got it elsewhere... Their censorship even encouraged me to seek out
>> films with sex and violence. Kids learn about sex and violence if they
>> want to and no amount of censorship at home can curb their curiosity.
>
> So what would your recommended viewlist for my 3-year old and 5-year old
> sons be? A few of the classics such as Debbie Does Dallas, The Devil in
> Miss Jones, and the Texas Chainsaw Massacre?
>
> There's a time and age for sex and violence, and the parent gets to
> choose. You obviously disagreed with your parent's choices, which is
> your right too.
>
> (BTW, did you have to quote all 300 lines of the bat file in your
> reply?)
>

I'm not recommending anything about when your kids should watch what(I
beleive I was 8 before I watched Debbie Does Dallas(Not a very
impressive film, IMO)... I was more into the slasher flicks, myself...
which my parents found much more acceptable). I agree there's a time
for everything and everyone has the right to raise their kids their own
way.

BTW: I only quoted about 287 lines, but it was because I was suggesting
a couple titles to add.

Dave M.

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-=ceebs=- <ne...@talk21.com> wrote in news:3E72B0...@talk21.com:

> You complain about games with questionable content yet you are
> teaching your kids about stealing (ie playing pirated arcade games,
> unless you own all 3200 roms you speak of) Maybe your batch file
> should read del *.*

Oh come on, that's such pure bullshit. It's not like anybody here can take
the moral high ground on this point. I doubt you hang around here solely
for the scintillating conversation.

And who's complaining anyway? He made a batch file to remove games he
found objectionable from his own collection. He's sharing the list so that
anyone who wishes to do the same thing can avoid some tedious work. It's
not like he's petitioning the MAME Devs to remove the games he doesn't
like.

-Dave

Paul

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Mar 15, 2003, 12:39:02 AM3/15/03
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Wow....interesting to see so much feedback in such a short period. I read
through most of the responses, and think most people got my point of making
the batch file. For others it appeared too much for their little brains to
handle.

Everyone raises their kids their own way. Also, every kid in every family is
different as well. Example, if you have a 7 year old son that tends to like
to fight and be destructible, then maybe his parent can make a batch file to
remove the violent games from Mame for him. For me I happen to have two
little girls that tend to have an interest in anything having to do with
other girls. When they come across a violent game in Mame, they just plain
aren't interested and hit escape (they're girls, can you blame them). But if
they come across any game with a girl on the snapshot, they tend to have an
interest and will attempt to play. Obviously I don't want my girls seeing
the smut games, so I chose to include these in my batch file. As for which
games I chose, you have to understand, I am a very busy person, and don't
have much time to scroll through 3500 games one by one. So what I did was
scroll through each VERY quickly. If the snapshot looked the LEAST bit
questionable, I included it in the batch, plain and simple. So games you may
think shouldn't be on the list might have made it. When you're scrolling
through 150 games per minute, theres not much time to decide, I was out for
the smutty, dirty, or xrated, ones (whatever the heck you want to call them

you dorky grammar wizards out there)


and I think I got most.

Now if my girls want to play a few games while I'm in the other room, they
won't come across the smutty ones. And if they come across the violent ones,
they don't normally play them anyway. If I find out otherwise down the road,
then maybe I'll create a new batch then. To each his own. Raise your kids as
demented as you want. Since this took me MANY hours to do, I simply posted
to save someone some time. All I know is, now I feel much better scrolling
through the list of (now 3200) games, and I'm not going to shock my kids,
family members, or anyone who happens to be over visiting while scrolling
through the list.

Most of the people who responded with some strange, backwards remark, I bet
either don't have kids and wouldn't understand a parent to kid situation, or
maybe you have kids but since your parents did such a poor job raising you,
you have no clue how to raise your own. Or maybe you just can't have kids
and are pissed off at people who have them?

So much for trying to save a few people some time......

Bash away! ;)

"innocent_lamb" <nos...@example.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.03.14....@example.com...


> On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:32:33 +0000, Paul wrote:
>
> > Since I have kids who want to play with Mame, I wanted to remove all the
> > dirty games from the rom set so I won't have to supervise them while
they
> > play.
>

> "Dirty" games, eh?
>
> Sheesh, talk about re-inventing the wheel.
>
> http://www.mameworld.net/mcm/
>
> Incidentally, did you also delete all of the "violent" games? If not,
> what are you waiting for?
>
> It's amazing to me the number of people who think of Mame as a babysitter
> for their kids. It's never been intended to be a children's toy.


Tom B

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Mar 15, 2003, 1:00:33 AM3/15/03
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> Playing games you did not pay for = good

Oh, but I did pay for them For 20+ years, one f***ing quarter at a time...
If I had all those quarters back, I could probably pay off my mortgage and
both car notes. But think of all the grand fun I would have missed out on!

Tom B
--
Just ask for the free CDs!
http://www.geocities.com/ncenginear

*accidentally sent to FSogol's email... oops!


TriggerFin

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Mar 15, 2003, 3:32:44 AM3/15/03
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"Dave M." <n...@spam.com> set up us the bomb. We get
news:Xns933EF41E9295Dd...@204.127.204.17. What! Main
screen turn on:

> ...I would most definitely have to disagree here. The cartoon games


> are mostly pretty tame, but I think most of the "photographic" games
> are a bit more explicit than an R-rating would allow. (And yes, I
> conducted a survey for *ahem* scientific purposes. :)

Yeah, crotch-shots tent *ahem* (actual typo) TEND to garner an NC-17.
Many of those in mame aren't even very appealing. Breasts are R, and
quite a few of the cartoony games do stop without even revealing that
much.

> Beyond the ratings, however, the presentation of a few of the games is
> pretty questionable. I find the girl's teary-eyed reluctance to strip
> in Don Den Lover Vol. 1, frankly, disturbing. Even if I weren't a
> sexually repressed American, I wouldn't expose my children to this.

Many of them are like that. Seems Japanese men like forcing young girls
to strip for them. ;)

> ...I say it


> is a parent's *job* to censor anything they feel their child is not
> mature enough to handle. That's the whole point, children aren't
> ready to deal with everything right from the start. You have to
> filter their experiences and allow them to learn a little at a time.

So, when's someone going to go through and rate everything with a pseudo-
ESRB system? M-violence, T-language and the like?

--
TriggerFin
Category Lists: http://www.mameworld.net/catlist
MAME Bugs: http://www.mameworld.net/mametesters

TriggerFin

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Mar 15, 2003, 3:36:14 AM3/15/03
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SINNER <99nesorjd@gates_of_hell.INVALID> set up us the bomb. We get
news:g1jak-...@news.gates_of_hell.INVALID. What! Main screen turn
on:

> I don't have kids, but I was a kid. I am also 34 years old.

Ah, the onset of senility. Guess that happens just after one turns 35,
then? Time to start running.

TriggerFin

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Mar 15, 2003, 3:43:48 AM3/15/03
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"chris jordan" <dead...@ntlworld.com> set up us the bomb. We get
news:wzqca.1000$iP....@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net. What! Main screen
turn on:

> up should also delete splatter house as it tells children that puting
> on a hockey mask and taking revenge is ok..as is shooting your
> girlfriend with a 12 gauge (if she turns in to a mutant)

Dude, shooting your horribly mutated girlfriend with a 12 guage *IS* OK!
You just need to explain that you can only do those things to certain
classes of monsters, like zombies, vampires, liberals, swamp creatures,
protoplasmic blobs, insectoid aliens, tentacled passersby, and purple
death-bots.

TriggerFin

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Mar 15, 2003, 3:45:59 AM3/15/03
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Kevin Steele <mail...@usa.net> set up us the bomb. We get
news:MPG.18dc4c42a...@news1.news.adelphia.net. What! Main
screen turn on:

> (BTW, did you have to quote all 300 lines of the bat file in your
> reply?)

Ah, that explains where the post went. Too long.

Kevin Steele

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Mar 15, 2003, 8:58:52 AM3/15/03
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Paul pau...@adelphia.net thought long and hard, then said...

> So much for trying to save a few people some time......

I don't know if you saw the other posts before the firestorm, but
there's already a program that can filter/remove the adult and fighter
games (and the Majongg games, or whatever else).

It's called MAME Content Manager (MCM):

http://www.mameworld.net/mcm/

In other words, you didn't need to re-invent the wheel. ;-)
Take a look, it's just what you need.

SINNER

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Mar 15, 2003, 11:19:56 AM3/15/03
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While strolling through alt.games.mame, Paul was overheard plotting:

[snip bashing]

funny, you did more bashing in your post than anyone else. If you were
that smart perhaps you would have found MCM and had the work done for
you, next time ask, and don't be so condescending. This thread allowed
people to air their opinions, you took everything personally and then
lashed out. You reacted the way you prefer everyone else not too, have a
look in the mirror...

--
David
Choose a data representation that makes the program simple.
- The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)

SINNER

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Mar 15, 2003, 11:30:04 AM3/15/03
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While strolling through alt.games.mame, Dave M. was overheard plotting:

> -=ceebs=- <ne...@talk21.com> wrote in news:3E72B0...@talk21.com:
>
>> You complain about games with questionable content yet you are
>> teaching your kids about stealing (ie playing pirated arcade games,
>> unless you own all 3200 roms you speak of) Maybe your batch file
>> should read del *.*
>
> Oh come on, that's such pure bullshit. It's not like anybody here can take
> the moral high ground on this point. I doubt you hang around here solely
> for the scintillating conversation.
>

Once you've become proficient in MAME the only other reason is *FOR*
scintillating conversation or to help others, how much MAME can you talk
about without eventually becoming repetitive. The groups is here so
like minded people can discuss things that are dear to them and gather
with some friends and occasionally enjoy the OP rant.

> And who's complaining anyway? He made a batch file to remove games he
> found objectionable from his own collection. He's sharing the list so that
> anyone who wishes to do the same thing can avoid some tedious work. It's
> not like he's petitioning the MAME Devs to remove the games he doesn't
> like.
>

No one here is, but teaching right from wrong is all inclusive, not
selective, and as mentioned although sometimes appropriate, MAME is not
for children if it was there would be no need for tools like MCM.

--
David
The louder he talked of his honour, the faster we counted our spoons.
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson

Christ's Soldiers

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Mar 15, 2003, 11:30:43 AM3/15/03
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In the land of alt.games.mame, the word of the Lord came to Kevin
Steele and verily he spoke saying:

> Christ's Soldiers christs...@hotmail.com thought long and
> hard, then said...


>> Understood. However I feel that whenever you give advice to
>> another person as to what is best for their child you tread on
>> dangerous ground.
>

> I don't really have much to add, other than I love your
> X-face...very apropo for this thread!
>
> Okaliy Dokaliy...(however it's spelled...)
>

lol, ya I liked it to. A custom job and the reason I'm using X-News
instead of Agent!

Christ's Soldiers

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Mar 15, 2003, 11:42:35 AM3/15/03
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In the land of alt.games.mame, the word of the Lord came to
HomerSexual and verily he spoke saying:

> On 14 Mar 2003 18:38:00 GMT, "Christ's Soldiers"


> <christs...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Understood. However I feel that whenever you give advice to
>>another person as to what is best for their child you tread on
>>dangerous
>

> I think general advice about childrearing and the principles
> thereof are good to share.

Share is different from blatent criticsm, but I agree.

> However if someone has the displeasure of being in the presence of
> a poorly behaving child with an obviously ineffectual parent, then
> I think one has an obligation to point out to that parent how
> poorly their child is acting and that their continued presence/bad
> behavior is not acceptable. People that are so thick they do not
> realize how much their child is annoying others need to have it
> brought to them and stuffed under their noses.

Also I agree, I have taught Sunday School for young children and have
had the displeasure of having to diplomatically approach parents
concerning their child(rens) behavior and even when it *is*
neccissary parents don't for the most part take kindly to it at least
IME. This however does not really apply to this particular issue as
we have not determened that anyones child(ren) are misbehaving.

>>ground. The op made no assertion as to where he stood ethically or


>>morally he simply stated "hey I made this .bat file. If you want

>>it here you go" At which you presumed to make a decisicon for him
>>as to
>
> That was really an overreaction. My thought was "boy, what a waste
> of time, but whatever floats his boat", not "how dare he blah blah
> blah". If he doesn't want his kid to play certain games, for
> WHATEVER reason, that's up to him.

Exactly.



>>what sort of ethics he should be teaching his children. I for one
>>have no problems allowing my children to see LOTR or Star Wars
>>which portray violence and even glorify it. I will however in no
>>way
>

> Why is violence ok and nudity not? I've never understood that.
> European countries (like the norse ones) have had long standing
> permissiveness as to nudity, and their kids don't go on shooting
> sprees in their 'hood. You tell me exactly what is to be gained by
> preventing your child from seeing nudity.

I've been to Amsterdam, no thanks.



>>subject them to movies that contain nudity of any sort. Before you
>>go
>

Thanks for your input. At risk of turning this into an even greater
neo-philosophical-political debate I'll just say your points have
been noted and move on : )

Christ's Soldiers

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Mar 15, 2003, 11:46:42 AM3/15/03
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In the land of alt.games.mame, the word of the Lord came to SINNER

and verily he spoke saying:

> With nudity, there is nothing intrinsically wrong wrong with it.

Beware David, you tred on dangerous ground! : )

Christ's Soldiers

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Mar 15, 2003, 12:03:02 PM3/15/03
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In the land of alt.games.mame, the word of the Lord came to Andy
Cassady and verily he spoke saying:

> Thank you for the checklist... I knew I hadn't played them all,
> yet! :)
>
> My parents censored my recreational activities(TV and movies), so
> I just got it elsewhere... Their censorship even encouraged me to
> seek out films with sex and violence. Kids learn about sex and
> violence if they want to and no amount of censorship at home can
> curb their curiosity.

This whole "why not let em see it if their just gonna find a way to
see it any way" philosophy is just lame. I mean, why make robbery
illegal if people are gonna do it anyway? Why outlaw rape? if someone
wants to force sex on you you can't stop them! and so on. In reality
if you a teach a child *why* you say something is wrong istead of
just *it's wrong* or *your too young* perhaps the child, as an adult
may share that point of view and perhaps not but your job as a parent
is to teach them *why* you believe a thing is right or wrong. If and
when my children decide to go and see an R rated movie it wont be
with me weather their 6 or 60 because I don't watch them. I will
explain to them why I feel it is wrong and as they mature they will
obtain other input and make their own decisions. My father subscribed
to Playboy and I stole them and read them when I was in Junior High
School. In a way my father had, by that, condoned that it was OK. I
later in life found reason to believe that it is damageing and
degrading to both the consumer and the models involved and decided it
was wrong. I will share that belief with my children and they will
make their decision.

SINNER

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Mar 15, 2003, 12:20:07 PM3/15/03
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While strolling through alt.games.mame, Christ's Soldiers was overheard plotting:

> In the land of alt.games.mame, the word of the Lord came to SINNER
> and verily he spoke saying:
>
>> With nudity, there is nothing intrinsically wrong wrong with it.
>
> Beware David, you tred on dangerous ground! : )
>

So, IYO there is something wrong with a nude human? We arent talking sex
here and NUDE != Sex, teaching anything else would be deceptive and
munipulative. IMO of course.
--
David
You can't hug a child with nuclear arms.

Christ's Soldiers

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Mar 15, 2003, 12:24:00 PM3/15/03
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In the land of alt.games.mame, the word of the Lord came to SINNER
and verily he spoke saying:

> While strolling through alt.games.mame, Christ's Soldiers was
> overheard plotting:
>> In the land of alt.games.mame, the word of the Lord came to
>> SINNER and verily he spoke saying:
>>
>>> With nudity, there is nothing intrinsically wrong wrong with it.
>>
>> Beware David, you tred on dangerous ground! : )
>>
>
> So, IYO there is something wrong with a nude human?

yes

Mike

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Mar 15, 2003, 9:56:31 PM3/15/03
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Christ's Soldiers <christs...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> So, IYO there is something wrong with a nude human?
>
> yes

This is the whole Adam and Eve thing, isn't it...

Mike

--
The people in the cheaper seats, clap your hands...
and if the rest of you would just rattle your jewelry.
-John Lennon, Beatles Royal Variety Performance 1963
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jimmie_65

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Mar 15, 2003, 10:24:45 PM3/15/03
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Mike <md...@deadspam.com> wrote in news:b50p4v$i4m$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk:

> Christ's Soldiers <christs...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> So, IYO there is something wrong with a nude human?
>>
>> yes
>
> This is the whole Adam and Eve thing, isn't it...
>
> Mike
>

Don't forget Noah.

Mike

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Mar 15, 2003, 10:44:46 PM3/15/03
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jimmie_65 <jimmi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Don't forget Noah.

I was talking about "original sin" and all that. But I'll be the first to
confess I'm not too good on Christian theology. ;)

Dave M.

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Mar 16, 2003, 1:12:41 AM3/16/03
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SINNER <99nesorjd@gates_of_hell.INVALID> wrote in
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> So, IYO there is something wrong with a nude human?

Trust me, if you saw me naked you'd absolutely agree. :D

-Dave

newbie

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Mar 16, 2003, 2:53:19 AM3/16/03
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Don't your kids know as much or more about computers than you? Don't kid
yourself. They have grown up their whole lives surrounded by computers. If
they were really interested wouldn't they learn how to play those games
anyway. No lame attempt at "preventing" kids from access will ever work.
(at least it never worked for me).

Just my two cents...

(Please don't be too harsh)

c-ya


"Paul" <pau...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:Bunca.1458$z_3.6...@news1.news.adelphia.net...

> Since I have kids who want to play with Mame, I wanted to remove all the
> dirty games from the rom set so I won't have to supervise them while they

> play. Well, I went through the painful task of scanning through all 3500+

> games, moved the questionable ones to a folder (I based my choices on
> looking at the snapshot and name of each game), then created a batch file
> from the custom.ini file. If you want to clean up your kids' Mame
> installation, copy the lines below to a batch file, then run the batch in
> the ROMS and SAMPLES directories. You can then change the batch file so
that
> .zip is changed to .png, then unzip snap.zip and clean up the snapshots
too.
> Then rezip the remaining files back to snap.zip again. This gets rid of
most
> of the Mahjong games, and other random ones like the Peekabo breakout
games,
> and few indecent "girly" pinball games and a few other stray ones. There
are
> about 3200 games left in my rom set now.....still more than my kids can
play
> in their lifetime. This is a crude batch file, but it worked for me. I
think
> I got most of the bad ones. I'd be curious to hear if anyone comes across
> any others. Hope this helps some of you......
>
> del apparel.zip

Mark A

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Mar 16, 2003, 4:49:14 AM3/16/03
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Mike wrote:
>
> I was talking about "original sin" and all that. But I'll be the first
> to confess I'm not too good on Christian theology. ;)

Wonder if he covers up piano legs, too? And I always knew those damn
doctors were the work of the devil, making you take your clothes off at
the drop of a hat, an' all. :)

Regards

Mark

Kevin Steele

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Mar 16, 2003, 7:56:18 AM3/16/03
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Dave M. n...@spam.com thought long and hard, then said...

LOL, I'll take your word on it. (BTW, nice X-face!)

jimmie_65

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Mike <md...@deadspam.com> wrote in news:b50rve$k0b$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk:

> jimmie_65 <jimmi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Don't forget Noah.
>
> I was talking about "original sin" and all that. But I'll be the first to
> confess I'm not too good on Christian theology. ;)
>
> Mike
>

One of the last verses on Noah tells us that two of his sons averted their
eyes to avoid seeing his nakedness. Probably a fairly obscure reference on
my part.

SINNER

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Mar 16, 2003, 8:20:04 AM3/16/03
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While strolling through alt.games.mame, jimmie_65 was overheard plotting:

Way before that, in Adam and Eve (Genesis) they hid from God after they
ate from the tree as they were embarrassed by their nudity. When God
asked them how they knew they were naked, he realized they had eaten
from the Tree of Knowledge.

Based on that story, it was Man that has the issue with nakedness, as
God intended us to be naked...

I am no theologian though...
--
David
Linux! Guerrilla UNIX Development Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus.
(By m...@ka4ybr.com, Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)

jimmie_65

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SINNER <99nesorjd@gates_of_hell.INVALID> wrote in
news:f1aek-...@news.gates_of_hell.INVALID:

> While strolling through alt.games.mame, jimmie_65 was overheard
> plotting:
>> Mike <md...@deadspam.com> wrote in
>> news:b50rve$k0b$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk:
>>

<snip>

> Based on that story, it was Man that has the issue with nakedness, as
> God intended us to be naked...
>
> I am no theologian though...

I'm no theologian, but I would agree with you - with some reservation. If
we were still without sin, then nakedness would not be a problem.

Again, I am not a theologian so this is probably phrased awkwardly, but:
My assumption is that the nakedness of Adam and Eve is more metaphoric - a
representation of how God sees our sin no matter how we clothe it. Adam and
Eve tried to sew together fig leaves - a representation of how silly our
own attempts to hide our sins really are.
Note that when God cast them out of Eden, he took away the ridiculous
clothes they had made and clothed them in animal skins. Not only were their
efforts ineffective, blood had to be shed to effectively cover their
nakedness.

Sory - this got way off topic. To bring it back on topic a little, I
personally do not have a problem with the nudity in these games. My
problems is the way women are exploited in them. There is nothing natural
about the sexuality displayed in most of these games.
I use MCM to filter out some games, but I keep others. I also keep out
games like Chiller. This is my choice as a father, and I do not presume to
tell others that they must do the same.

Jimmie

blurp

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I also am no theologian. So where can I get these dirty games?

blurp

Information is currency. Spend freely.


On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:00:07 GMT, the illustrious "jimmie_65"
<jimmi...@yahoo.com> favored us with the following prose:

SINNER

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Mar 20, 2003, 3:04:35 PM3/20/03
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While strolling through alt.games.mame, blurp was overheard plotting:

> I also am no theologian. So where can I get these dirty games?

http://www.mame.dk same place as the rest of them

--
David

Zax Quimby

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Mar 24, 2003, 5:39:13 AM3/24/03
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"Paul" <pau...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:Bunca.1458$z_3.6...@news1.news.adelphia.net...
> Since I have kids who want to play with Mame,
> I wanted to remove all the dirty games from the
> rom set so I won't have to supervise them while
> they play. Well, I went through the painful task
> of scanning through all 3500+ games, moved
> the questionable ones to a folder (I based my
> choices on looking at the snapshot and name of
> each game), then created a batch file from the
> custom.ini file.
>
> [snip]
>
Paul,

Apart from the ones in your original list, catver.ini
and mameinfo.dat categorize the following games
as Adult.

I've not played them, so I'm uncertain of how
adult they actually are. Nor did I spend much
time preparing the list so there may be errors. All
I did was write a quick script to extract the rom
names of the games categorized as Adult in these
two files and compare them to your list.

Should you want to completely remove all the
adult games, you should download the mame
source code, comment out the lines relating to
these games and re-compile it.

Anyway, here's the list:
-----------------------
bballs
bigtwin
blockgal
bubl2000
galpanib
hexa
magix
matchit
pairs
pcktgal2
pcktgalb
pkladiel
plgirls2
primella
puzznic
sichuan2
sichuana
spool3
spool3i
-----------------------

Congratulations on inadvertently kicking up a
storm with this thread. Don't let it put you off
posting any other mame nuggets you spend
time on.

All the best,

Zax


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