I am not looking forward to upcoming BioShock
Beladi Nasralla
quipped: "Oh, I cannot wait when I put my fingers on Bioshock in
September ! It is going to be great !"
I heard about this game a while ago, and at that time I looked through
the websites with the reviews, and I thought that I was unimpressed
with the game. I thought: "What's so special about that game ? It is
another FPS genre game. There is not much of physical interaction
between the player and the world, as was for example in HL2, where you
could grab stuff with grab gun and throw it. Less than that, and the
new game is not interesting for me."
This time, this remark made me to have a look at BioShok again. I
watched some movies with the gameplay at YouTube. Nope... I am not
impressed, really. It is just more of the same.
stoedy
Well if you still play HL2DM, you're weird to begin with and we don't
care what you think. :)
Just kidding, but honestly while Bioshock may or may not suck, a lot
of times whether or not an FPS feels like more of the same depends on
your own attitude and perspective toward it.
I've got a buddy who tends to get obsessive-compulsive about one game
for years at a time. For a while it was TFC. That was his addiction
until his old PC got too screwed up to use, so he didn't play games
for all for about a year. Then I talked him into buying a decent
Core2Duo system, and bought him a copy of BF2 with the SF expansion
for like $24 (because he is a cheap ass and will hardly buy games at
all). At first he complained, moaned, etc., because it was so
different than what he had become accustomed to (the "who moved my
cheese" syndrome). Now, he is completely obsessive about it, playing
hours per day and I can't get him to look at anything else because it
falls outside his OCD comfort zone.
I'm just saying how much enjoyment you get out of a game often comes
down to your attitude going in, assuming the game it'self is
technically sound (not too many bugs, multiplayer lag, etc)
Tim O
<nasr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I don't even know that much about Bioshock, but your comments about
interactivity cracked me up. Pretty much every interactive thing in
HL2 and every puzzle in Episode One involved using the gravity gun to
shoot an energy ball or move something. They mixed it up a couple
times by having you turn a wheel on a steam pipe.
HL2 is totally on rails with backgrounds created to make it appear
otherwise. Even having read only blurbs about Bioshock, I find it
difficult to believe it will be more action oriented and less
interactive than HL2 simply because it'd be nearly impossible.
Beladi Nasralla
You might be describing me :-) :-(
Really, I got Oblivion, FEAR, Quake 4 on my hands (just starting to
play 'em)... and I got sick of all of it already. I will get HL2 EP2
however... and BioShock is too much for me. Besides, I do not like
role-player games, and BioShock has elements of it...
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> I'm just saying how much enjoyment you get out of a game often comes
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pc games
Cause it has PRODUCT "screw the customer" ACTIVATION
turk
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And yet you bought Oblivion? It's not like they stealth marketed that thing
as a shooter. It's a flat out RPG.
turk
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the dead.
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> thing as a shooter. It's a flat out RPG.
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> turk
To be fair, the marketing I saw framed it as FPS/RPG - I bought it for the
FPS side of things but the RPG bogged me down too much. Quite enjoyed the
first few shoot-outs but going round talking to people wasn't my cup of tea.
Anyone want my copy cheap?
h
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> I'm also NOT LOOKING foward to upcoming Bioshock
> Cause it has PRODUCT "screw the customer" ACTIVATION
Cool. Free screw with every purchase.
Jim Vieira
Well, thanks for sharing.
turk
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It's a first person RPG, but I never saw any reference to it as a shooter.
I expect maybe Dark Mesiah of Might and Magic might be mroe up your alley.
> Anyone want my copy cheap?
Nope. Got it as well as the first expansion. Just not sure I can get back
into it after losing about 30+ hours of the game in a hard drive crash. My
poor human knight, gone forever.
Les Steel
> I'm also NOT LOOKING foward to upcoming Bioshock
> Cause it has PRODUCT "screw the customer" ACTIVATION
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the screwing.
Kroagnon
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They seem to have significantly dumbed it down since Irrational's
aquisition.
More console stupidity.
mea...@gmail.com
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You don't have a clue . You need to watch some demo vids.
Bioshock looks to be exciting and while I have no idea how linear or
non linear it will be, one thing is that you can interact with the
enemies (and environment) in many more ways then with just 1 gun.
You can set things on fire.
You can set things on fire and then throw firey things at enemies and
set them on fire too.
You can electrocute enemies and stun them.
You can electrocute the water enemies stand in and fry them.
Grenades can be thrown back at your enemy in mid air.
You can hack into system to turn enemies against each other.
Plus the whole little girl will you kill her or won't you deal, which
apparently has some implications on the ending story line.
RPG elements? A few little stats to configure how you play - such as
defense and offense. Big deal. That is nothing compared to Oblivion.
Ben Cottrell
> You don't have a clue . You need to watch some demo vids.
I probably do too :)
> Bioshock looks to be exciting and while I have no idea how linear or
> non linear it will be, one thing is that you can interact with the
> enemies (and environment) in many more ways then with just 1 gun.
I understand that the gameplay is supposed to be far more unpredictable
than current FPS games. Not clear though whether this is purely a
monster AI thing, or whether there's an element of completely random
events happening too (Which, AFAIK hasn't been done much with FPS games,
although it works really well in some strategy games)
> You can set things on fire.
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> You can set things on fire and then throw firey things at enemies and
> set them on fire too.
Sounds like its been done before, but ok.
> You can electrocute enemies and stun them.
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> You can electrocute the water enemies stand in and fry them.
That's new, but does it work for all water in the game? or does water
actually have to be conveniently near some kind of electrical outlet?
(or do you have a high-voltage electro-gun/thingy which does it?)
> Grenades can be thrown back at your enemy in mid air.
again, sorta been done before, I think you could do this with the HL2
grav gun if you were fast enough (Needless to say, I never was :) )
> You can hack into system to turn enemies against each other.
Out of interest, what are the circumstances around this? does it work
for a range of enemies under all sorts of situations? or does it have
to fit very particular circumstances in certain controlled areas of the
game?
> Plus the whole little girl will you kill her or won't you deal, which
> apparently has some implications on the ending story line.
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> RPG elements? A few little stats to configure how you play - such as
> defense and offense. Big deal. That is nothing compared to Oblivion.
I've not really got much of a clue about Bioshock, but, to me, it sounds
like just-another evolution in the FPS genre (I could be wrong). I
like the sound of some of the features you describe, but I wonder
whether they'll really be that interesting after the first run through,
and what the overall storyline and immersive feel will be like.
I'm saying this as someone who's gotten a little bored of FPS
games in general lately. I can understand why Bioshock would appeal to
the real hard-core fans of the genre, but it hasn't got my money yet.
--
Ben Cottrell AKA Bench
Andrew
<be...@bench333.screaming.net> wrote:
>mea...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> You don't have a clue . You need to watch some demo vids.
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>I probably do too :)
There are plenty of videos that show the game off. This one will
answer some of your questions:
http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/12480
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> That's new, but does it work for all water in the game?
Nah, you could do that in Quake 1.