hope i cleared some things up.
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[SyN]-Nebula-
neb...@charter.net
I've heard that bullet penetration in an upcoming BETA will not only be
based on wall thickness (as it is now),.but also on wall texture. Where a
wood texture will penetrate much easier than a steel texture.
As it stands now, an AWP can penetrate just about any wall a a long
distance. That and the wall cheat is a very dangerous combination.
"Nebula" <neb...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:389EF005...@charter.net...
Sorry to break this too you, but shooting through walls is a
Counter-Strike *feature*, not a bug and certainly not a Half-Life
bug.
Oh, and if you can get the p90 to get through anything thicker then
glass and the smallest edges, well then you're a better man then I.
I can't even get the p90 through the thinest of thin walls on
cs_academy_beta, which has *super* thin walls for the outside
training section:
ftp://thrush.omix.com/hl/cs_acadamy_beta.zip
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[JwF]Zenin <ze...@archive.rhps.org>
--==<< Junkies with Firearms >>==--
This is not a bug in Half-Life, this is a feature of CS! CS takes into
account the thickness of an object and the power of the bullet at the time it
impacts that object. Based on that there is a chance that a weapon can shoot
through objects. *ANY* gun can do it, just the more powerful guns let you
shoot through thicker objects.
CS.net has a quote(?) from Gooseman stating that B6 will take into account
the material of the item based on the skin it is painted with and adjust the
damage/thickness ratio further so that some objects will not be able to be
shot through at all even if they are relatively thin.
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Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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It's about time. Getting shot through what is supposed to be a stone or
concrete
wall is extremely annoying and unrealistic. Now shooting through thin
partitions
and doors is one thing... adds to the realism and also gives some
interesting
strategic options... But i have been TK (by mistake) too often through
walls
by loose bullets...
Iphigenie
Sorry for correcting you Zenin, but the working URL should be:
ftp://thrush.omix.com/pub/hl/cs_acadamy_beta.zip
Fast server with nice additional maps on it, by the way =)
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Duh, thanks. My own damn machine and I can't get links to it
correct. :-)
>
That's the point! Its impossible to hide in ambush. It destroys the
realism of the game, I could maybe see it as a piece of expensive equipment
or something... But otherwise, its cheating. Its pointless. If you have
to do this to get frags, then you need to take up needlepoint.
For gods sake folks, get a set of balls and stop cheating!
No, you stated that shooting through a wall was a bug of Half-Life. Clear
as day.
[Paranoid]Postal-Worker
<ze...@bawdycaste.org> wrote in message
news:94997745...@thrush.omix.com...
> Nebula <neb...@charter.net> wrote:
> : by now everyone knows the gl_zmax 0 cheat that makes some walls
> : semi-transparent. using that string does not also allow you to shoot
> : THROUGH them! a bug in half-life allows for shooting though most thin
> : walls possible but only under 1 (one) condition...your using a powerful
> : gun (all rifles and the p90 have worked for me) i don't know how to
> : explain this futher but to say that the zmax exploit has only allowed
you
> : to aim at people you could have killed without the exploit, assuming you
> : knew when as where to shoot.
>
> Sorry to break this too you, but shooting through walls is a
> Counter-Strike *feature*, not a bug and certainly not a Half-Life
> bug.
>
> Oh, and if you can get the p90 to get through anything thicker then
> glass and the smallest edges, well then you're a better man then I.
> I can't even get the p90 through the thinest of thin walls on
> cs_academy_beta, which has *super* thin walls for the outside
> training section:
>
> ftp://thrush.omix.com/hl/cs_acadamy_beta.zip
>
>On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:01:50 +0000, [SyN]-Nebula- <neb...@charter.net> wrote:
>>yes all this is true but i was merely pointing out what the wall exploit can
>>result in, i never stated that shooting through walls was, in it's self, a
>>cheat but that this trait was being exploited by people using the "cheat" or
>>gl_zmax 0.
>
> No, you stated that shooting through a wall was a bug of Half-Life. Clear
>as day.
And there is in fact a bug in HL that allows you to shoot through
extremely thin walls with any weapon in any mod. So, he's completely
accurate, although vague. ;-)
Ed Chauvin IV
aka: AlterEd[AsS]
--
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the Beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed,
the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
I can't get guns like the glock to go through breakable glass let
alone a wall, regardless of thickness? How is this bug enabled?
mhh wait we have now AMerican, german, french, russian etc. weapons
how about a chinese one?
A.
usually cheaters are just people who just can't play without
cheating...
PilgriM
FragieSpice <joe...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:88a6eq$lat$1...@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au...
>
> mhh wait we have now AMerican, german, french, russian etc. weapons
> how about a chinese one?
Easy, copy the Russian one, and add a jamming option.
Tim
When playing rugby, its not the winning that counts, but the taking apart
ICQ: 5178568
BTW It is THE LPB- Weapon!
May Allah bless you with wisdom child,
Achmed
Hey, I've learned something more!
Now I can freak even more people out (by knowing stuff about weapons
and recognizing them on tv etc.).
For the anecdote I grew up really close to the big SIG plant. Never even
knew they made weapons in there. When i first saw the SIG name for weapons,
I still didn't make the connection... oh well, ignorance is bliss :)
Iphigenie
--
"I have NOT lost my mind - I have it backed up on tape somewhere."
> "iphigenie" <ip...@imagis.ch> wrote:
> > don't forget swiss and autrian, by the way.
> > Now I'm clueless in weapons... so someone enlighten me.. which one is
> > french?
>
> FN Para 90 and FN Para 249
>
> IE the asswhuppin sub and the asswhuppin bloody huge bastard gun...
Frayed knot - Fabrique Nationale is a Belgian company (the judderbar of
European warfare).
H&K, originally a German outfit, are now owned by Vickers Ordnance UK, and
have most of their factories in the US now I believe.
Sig Sauer are Swedish?
Colt is still a US company.
AK's are built under licence everywhere cheap but decent guns are required.
The soon to be introduced Steyr 5.56 is from AUG of Austria.
On the subject of new guns I say the CS team should go with Lord Headshot's
(from the cs forums) idea of the FiveseveN for the CT's, and a sawn-off
double barreled shotgun (ie., ACME disintergrator gun) for the Terr.'s.
--
snark^ 'The Lemur' snark(at)
ICQ No.: 1471203 paradise(dot)net(dot)nz
SWISS, not swedish - but they are getting rid of their weapons
division so either it'll disappear or be sold to someone.
Moogee
Now I didnt know this 2 months ago, either
Iphigenie
--
"I have NOT lost my mind - I have it backed up on tape somewhere."
Moogee <moo...@mugi.net> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
88gofd$iep$1...@supernews.com...
> The soon to be introduced Steyr 5.56 is from AUG of Austria.
Nope! It's not AUG, the company is called STEYR.
Their most famous weapons are:
- Glock 17, 18 (*Plastic* Pistol ;-)
- Steyr STG 77 (AUG) - coming in different versions/models
- some hunting rifles (can't remember their name)
>Hey, I've learned something more!
>Now I can freak even more people out (by knowing stuff about weapons
>and recognizing them on tv etc.).
You know "Ronin"??
Is it para?
Ciao
Peter
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Peter aka [Fritte][ZK]Ketchup
======================================================
Come to -=[Fritte]=- Counter-Strike
http://fritte.counter-strike.de
It gets worrying when you can tell the difference between an A5 and an A3
etc. etc.
Moogee
Anyone know if the AWP is supposed to be the HK PSG-1?
Moogee
"Peter Hinse" <hi...@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:q5tnasgte5sjuhkhh...@4ax.com...
Glock's 'official' page is 'under construction'.
"Martin 'Frog-Fest' Seibert" <noe...@geocities.com> wrote in message
news:88gpd9$ofe$1...@fleetstreet.Austria.EU.net...
Yupyup. It is also an excellent sniping weapon when people know you have
it. "Awwww, he has a P90 I can sit back and nail him from here w/o moving."
Plug, plug, plug, plug, dead. "How the fuck did he do /that/!!! He hit 4
times in a row from that range!" :)
Mmmmm, I will love the day when I learned how to fire in short bursts on
the P90. :)
You learn sommink everyday... :)
So ARE there any French guns in there?
snark^ 'The Lemur' <jabbe...@deepinthetulgeywook.com> wrote in message
news:qrfnaskp4eeqcpc2j...@4ax.com...
> =>> The runes were cast, the portents thundered and then "Tony Da Bubble"
> warbled on about "Re: The Fabled "Shoot though walls" Cheat Unveiled" in
> alt.games.half-life.counterstrike <<=
>
> > "iphigenie" <ip...@imagis.ch> wrote:
> > > don't forget swiss and autrian, by the way.
> > > Now I'm clueless in weapons... so someone enlighten me.. which one is
> > > french?
> >
> > FN Para 90 and FN Para 249
> >
> > IE the asswhuppin sub and the asswhuppin bloody huge bastard gun...
>
> Frayed knot - Fabrique Nationale is a Belgian company (the judderbar of
> European warfare).
>
> H&K, originally a German outfit, are now owned by Vickers Ordnance UK, and
> have most of their factories in the US now I believe.
>
> Sig Sauer are Swedish?
>
> Colt is still a US company.
>
> AK's are built under licence everywhere cheap but decent guns are
required.
>
> The soon to be introduced Steyr 5.56 is from AUG of Austria.
>
http://www.remtek.com/cfi/aw/accint.htm - you can buy one here for $4000!
($3,291, but who's counting a few dollars?)
There's a $6,000 difference between the two, isn't there? The HK PSG-1 is a
ten grand (US dollars) gun, I *think*... :)
Moogee <moo...@mugi.net> wrote in message news:88h426$b1l$3...@supernews.com...
Eeer U still playing CT?
Then I pray to Allah you never will
Otherwise: may Allah guide U on your holy search!
Prophet
I play whatever 5,1 puts me on or whichever side needs another player when
they are uneven. ;)
Great weapons info site for HK
http://www.unsuave.com/~hkpro/home.htm
Has exploded sketches of lots of exotic stuff.
Specially this baby.
http://www.unsuave.com/~hkpro/oicw.htm
Moogee
Crazy Achmed-Prophet of the FIAT-Clan a écrit dans le message ...
Why do you send me an flame in my private maibox that replies
to a previous message and not mine?
I should mailbomb you with a huuuge attachment or something
but I will refrain
looser
----- Original Message -----
From: Xerxes <hiha...@hotmail.com>
To: iphigenie <ip...@imagis.ch>
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2000 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: The Fabled "Shoot though walls" Cheat Unveiled
how about, NO! you chink love'n bastard!!!
.....quiet you......commie..suse mi tub ho.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "iphigenie" <ip...@imagis.ch>
> Newsgroups: alt.games.half-life.counterstrike
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 5:58 AM
> Subject: Re: The Fabled "Shoot though walls" Cheat Unveiled
>
>
> > don't forget swiss and autrian, by the way.
> > Now I'm clueless in weapons... so someone enlighten me.. which one is
> > french?
> >
> Anyone know if the AWP is supposed to be the HK PSG-1?
Made by Accuracy International UK and in service with the British Army as
the L96 I believe.
I can't believe I messed up the gun and manufacturer - Steyr in the
manufacturer, the AUG the asault rifle... now me go beat brains out with
Jane's Infantry manuals...
--
snark^ snark(at)
ICQ No.: 1471203 paradise(dot)net(dot)nz
Part of my clan's doctrine.
>I can only honour that 5 but 1???
>I mean as a Terrorist in for ex.: Nuke??
>Strange... U loose the stealth Factor included in Every Eastern fighting
>clothing..
Nuke, where 1/2 of the fighting is inside. The only time I worry about it
is dust. :P
Besides, you're making the assuption that the other side hasn't replaced
their models with something that is easier to see. I have seen bright red and
bright blue models for each side on some screen shots. :)
check out http://www.remtek.com/arms/index.htm
Later
[Paranoid]Postal-Worker
ohh by Allah this surely is technology of Unbelieving PPL!!
But by Allah! When I play A maP Usually people tend to walk by without
seeing me (( Holy DE!)) so i guess There are only a few usung this models,
BTw I don愒 like to use such a biiig advantage , by Allah!,
惡ause this advantage takes much realism away--like camouflage/ trying to
look like wall etc
U have surely noticed several "Allah!" marks in this short text--
This is only because I must have sinned-- 2 Round witrhout one single
kill--
"Allah must have blinded me" (( one of my Allah-scripts))
Achmed
May Allah look after all fair Players!
I certainly don't. Everything on mine is stock straight from the CS team.
I like Gooseman's statement that he prefer people not add maps to CS that the
CS team hasn't put in. Because of the constant CS development new maps and
map changes get into it and we play with a constant set. I also take that to
pretty much everything on the game. Keeps the sport in it when all things are
equal.
To each his own, I guess.
I get bored with maps after the first six months of playing them and
like variety. I explicitly seek out servers that play non-stock
maps. Most, if not all, of the non-stock maps I've seen around blow
the stock ones away, and not simply because I'm bored off my ass
with the stock ones.
--
[JwF]Zenin <ze...@archive.rhps.org>
--==<< Junkies with Firearms >>==--
Praise Allah.
--
Mikko
Of Cause I do it!
I use this to saw terror under my enemys who run away if they see a
Allah! -yelling,
firing-with-closed-eyes, douging-to-Mekka, short A FIAT-Member!
Allah will crush any Ct Force!
Achmed, proud Prophet of the Believing Forces of the FIAT-Clan
This Post has been brought to you by a fast Camel-rider and the phrase" May
Allah be with us"
may Allah guide u to the secure Bombing Place,
Achmed
I like it to play a totally new map sometimes cause its very funny if u run
arround and don´t know where the others are ;-))
(Only if the level is small of cause)
Okay I play the "official" maps much more but...
Hey ... New Maps--> New challenge!
A.
"Mikko Ylivakeri" <mikko.y...@cc.tut.fi> wrote in message
news:890lrq$875$1...@baker.cc.tut.fi...
> Do you ever do that raghead terrorist thing... ...firing an AK-47 into the
> sky on fully automatic? That looks cool in-game and it's realistic arab
> terrorist action. 8)
>
> Praise Allah.
>
> --
> Mikko
>
>
]FIAT[Abdull
Steve Lamb <morp...@despair.rpglink.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
slrn8aob87....@rpglink.com...
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 20:27:31 +0100, Crazy Achmed-Prophet of the FIAT-Clan
> <Crazy...@tXXXXX.de> wrote:
> >BTW It is THE LPB- Weapon!
>
> Yupyup. It is also an excellent sniping weapon when people know you
have
> it. "Awwww, he has a P90 I can sit back and nail him from here w/o
moving."
> Plug, plug, plug, plug, dead. "How the fuck did he do /that/!!! He hit 4
> times in a row from that range!" :)
>
> Mmmmm, I will love the day when I learned how to fire in short bursts
on
> the P90. :)
>
And sometimes (only sometimes!) we also use the AK to shoot the enm.
]FIAT[Abdull
Mikko Ylivakeri <mikko.y...@cc.tut.fi> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
Hey, thanks to you guys! I've already been on your server and I must admit
it was a good one, technically.
Only a few admins out there who don't overconsume their ressources and cause
lag. You don't and that's good.
Concerning the game:
Hmmm, I was the only one camping near the hostages in siege this evening,
and I was always "last T standing" :o)
Finally I had to change tactics and cmped with the Para in the canalization
:o)
]FIAT[Abdull
Nooooh! That's uncool. Usually ragheads just keep shooting and blowing each
other up. Get with the program!
--
Mikko
Nope. The only time I would do such a thing is right after the bomb has
gone off and since I was guarding the bomb as any good terrorist would do. :P
Shit, I'm about as accurate with my P90 at range as I am with my M4A1
zoomed. For some reason bursting an M4A1 doesn't work as well as a P90. :/
>> Come to -=[Fritte]=- Counter-Strike
>> http://fritte.counter-strike.de
>
>Hey, thanks to you guys! I've already been on your server and I must admit
>it was a good one, technically.
>Only a few admins out there who don't overconsume their ressources and cause
>lag. You don't and that's good.
Muchas gracias, Amigo!
The only problem we have right now: Our server is down for the text
time, cause the University did not know about this particular
CS-Server and the traffic it caused (about 70-100GB per month) :)
You can read a (german) explanation on
http://hiwi.sfb504.uni-mannheim.de/fritten/server.php3 !!
Ciao
Peter
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Peter aka [Fritte][ZK]Ketchup
======================================================
It愀 from the US. FN Manufacturing inc., Columbia, SC.
They produce the M249 SAW too.
I am BoneDaddy
could it be that the mightey us army *would* use a gun made in the puny
belgium? :)
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[WYB]GummiEnte [Quake2----CTF]
icq: 32652603
--
Iphigenie, Lady of AGHL
"I have NOT lost my mind - I have it backed up on tape somewhere."
LOL
But the us army is at least
allmighteybravorousgiantgodlikeneverlosesingingtheirnationalanthemeverydaydo
nuteatingusruletheworld*y*
and plz to take this seriously.... ;o)
I should better not post this...*fuck*...I do...