A SMAC(X) Movie?
Shard
Ron Stanton
Great game though
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ChickenBat
>
I was just thinking the same thing.
I nominate Brent Spiner for Zakharov. If I think of anyone else, I'll drop a
note.
Aaron Sturges
judi dench as miriam.
samuel L jackson as lal.
what do u guys think???? oh...and BTW....hiya!
ChickenBat
>judi dench as miriam.
>samuel L jackson as lal
I like the idea of Judy Dench as Miriam, but I can't agree with the other two
choices. Morgan needs to be more flamboyant and Lal should be more demure.
Perhaps a comedic choice for Morgan, like Eddie Murphy or Damon Wayans (my
choice, because he seems like he could really pull it off, cutting deals and
schmoozing you into following him into Hell in order to reach Paradise).
As far as Lal, I'm kind of at a loss for a good actor at this time.
Jon F. Zeigler
>Perhaps a comedic choice for Morgan, like Eddie Murphy or Damon Wayans (my
>choice, because he seems like he could really pull it off, cutting deals and
>schmoozing you into following him into Hell in order to reach Paradise).
Morgan needs to be someone with a *lot* of stage presence. You
want someone who can project a sense of humor, sure, but it has
to overlie iron-willed ruthlessness. Denzel Washington?
>As far as Lal, I'm kind of at a loss for a good actor at this time.
Ben Kingsley?
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>
> >As far as Lal, I'm kind of at a loss for a good actor at this time.
>
> Ben Kingsley?
Yes, Ben Kingsley. How did i get him mixed up with F. Murray?
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>
> I like the idea of Judy Dench as Miriam, but I can't agree with the other two
> choices. Morgan needs to be more flamboyant and Lal should be more demure.
> Perhaps a comedic choice for Morgan, like Eddie Murphy or Damon Wayans (my
> choice, because he seems like he could really pull it off, cutting deals and
> schmoozing you into following him into Hell in order to reach Paradise).
Ronald Reagan?
> As far as Lal, I'm kind of at a loss for a good actor at this time.
How about Mr Abrahams? He played Gandhi, and the caterpillar in Alice
in Wonderland, and the Sonaa leader in Star Trek, so his acting range
covers Indian leaders, erratic personalities, and ruthless, unscrupulous
antagonists, all of which describe Lal.
Antonio González
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>
> >Perhaps a comedic choice for Morgan, like Eddie Murphy or Damon Wayans
(my
> >choice, because he seems like he could really pull it off, cutting deals
and
> >schmoozing you into following him into Hell in order to reach Paradise).
>
> Morgan needs to be someone with a *lot* of stage presence. You
> want someone who can project a sense of humor, sure, but it has
> to overlie iron-willed ruthlessness. Denzel Washington?
Both Denzel Washington and Morgan Freeman would be OK
>
> Ben Kingsley?
>
He would be perfect as Lal.
What about Santiago?
Sigourney Weaver?
Deirdre? What about Sophie Marceau?
And Yang?
Antonio
Szymon Sokół
>
>>Perhaps a comedic choice for Morgan, like Eddie Murphy or Damon Wayans (my
>>choice, because he seems like he could really pull it off, cutting deals and
>>schmoozing you into following him into Hell in order to reach Paradise).
>
>Morgan needs to be someone with a *lot* of stage presence. You
>want someone who can project a sense of humor, sure, but it has
>to overlie iron-willed ruthlessness. Denzel Washington?
Irving Rhames:
http://us.imdb.com/Name?Rhames,+Ving
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ChickenBat
>want someone who can project a sense of humor, sure, but it has
>to overlie iron-willed ruthlessness. Denzel Washington?
I considered Denzel, but he seems too serious. Maybe Avery Brooks might be
better.
>Ben Kingsley?
>
It's a shame that he already did Gandhi. How about Siddig el-Fadil (Dr. Bashir
from Deep Space Nine)?
Kevin D. Foster
>
> >Morgan needs to be someone with a *lot* of stage presence. You
> >want someone who can project a sense of humor, sure, but it has
> >to overlie iron-willed ruthlessness. Denzel Washington?
>
> I considered Denzel, but he seems too serious. Maybe Avery Brooks might be
> better.
Avery Brooks would be an excellent pick IMO.
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good pick.
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CurtAdams
>
> >Morgan needs to be someone with a *lot* of stage presence. You
> >want someone who can project a sense of humor, sure, but it has
> >to overlie iron-willed ruthlessness. Denzel Washington?
>
> I considered Denzel, but he seems too serious.
> Maybe Avery Brooks might be better.
Too serious? None of the leaders in SMAC are in any way humorous.
Morgan is the guy who has people nerve stapled for getting upset
at experiments in a research hospital, remember? Either Denzel
Washington or Morgan Freeman would be great as Morgan.
Curt Adams (curt...@aol.com)
"It is better to be wrong than to be vague" - Freeman Dyson
ChickenBat
>Morgan is the guy who has people nerve stapled for getting upset
>at experiments in a research hospital, remember? Either Denzel
>Washington or Morgan Freeman would be great as Morgan.
Morgan should be a wheeler-dealer, in my opinion. A little humor is what I
perceive from his cavalier attitude about cutting deals and committing
atocities. If he was too serious, any movie (and the game itself) would
probably be too boring to see.
Kevin D. Foster
>
> ChickenBat wrote:
> >
> > >Morgan needs to be someone with a *lot* of stage presence. You
> > >want someone who can project a sense of humor, sure, but it has
> > >to overlie iron-willed ruthlessness. Denzel Washington?
> >
> > I considered Denzel, but he seems too serious.
> > Maybe Avery Brooks might be better.
>
> Too serious? None of the leaders in SMAC are in any way humorous.
> Morgan is the guy who has people nerve stapled for getting upset
> at experiments in a research hospital, remember? Either Denzel
> Washington or Morgan Freeman would be great as Morgan.
Watch the SP movies that have him in them again. I think Morgan
definitely has a sense of humor. He's a businessman remember, so he
wants to appear open and friendly to your face before he goes and signs
the order for your nerve stapling.
CurtAdams
>Morgan should be a wheeler-dealer, in my opinion. A little humor is what I
>perceive from his cavalier attitude about cutting deals and committing
>atocities. If he was too serious, any movie (and the game itself) would
.probably be too boring to see.
I've never thought a cavalier attitude about atrocities was humorous.
Ruthless and reprehensible come to mind. Morgan's voice actor has
a cheery-sounding voice but his words are quite serious. Plus,
when I hear somebody talking like that in the real world it's a
salesthing trying to eviscerate my bank account and I don't find
that amusing either :-P
CurtAdams
> Watch the SP movies that have him in them again. I think Morgan
>definitely has a sense of humor. He's a businessman remember, so he
>wants to appear open and friendly to your face before he goes and signs
>the order for your nerve stapling.
Oh, I agree that Morgan tries to act open and friendly. But when I
see him, I find it obviously that it *is* an act and he is always
dangerous and deadly serious. When he says "our products are
so good no-one sees the need to compete with us" don't you
hear "anyone who competes with me ends up bankrupt and worm
food. Stay out of my way!" ? I don't even get the impression that
the friendly act is intended to be serious. I think Morgan "wants"
to be seen through.
Really, I think almost all the leaders present themselves as nice
but it's just an act. That's the point. Only Deirdre (the heroine)
and Lal come out nice in the story line and even they have big
vicious streaks in actual play.
David Johnston
> ChickenBat wrote:
> >
> > >Morgan needs to be someone with a *lot* of stage presence. You
> > >want someone who can project a sense of humor, sure, but it has
> > >to overlie iron-willed ruthlessness. Denzel Washington?
> >
> > I considered Denzel, but he seems too serious.
> > Maybe Avery Brooks might be better.
>
> Too serious? None of the leaders in SMAC are in any way humorous.
The right word is "jovial".
AcK!
>chick...@aol.com writes:
>
>>Morgan should be a wheeler-dealer, in my opinion. A little humor is what I
>>perceive from his cavalier attitude about cutting deals and committing
>>atocities. If he was too serious, any movie (and the game itself) would
>.probably be too boring to see.
>
>I've never thought a cavalier attitude about atrocities was humorous.
>Ruthless and reprehensible come to mind. Morgan's voice actor has
>a cheery-sounding voice but his words are quite serious. Plus,
>when I hear somebody talking like that in the real world it's a
>salesthing trying to eviscerate my bank account and I don't find
>that amusing either :-P
Just like Avery Brooks and the IBM ad!
It's amazing how advertising affects one's brain: when I sometimes stumble upon
a DS9 re-run on TV, I momentarily wonder why they're trying to sell IBM products
on a space station...
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>I would think Avery Brooks would be a little too... big. Otherwise it's a
>good pick.
Big in what way? It looked like Morgan has quite a belly.
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AcK!
>Too serious? None of the leaders in SMAC are in any way humorous.
Surely you can't ignore the dark (Russian) humour of Zarakhov now, can you?
Think back to the blurb about matter transportation (PSI gate tech), and the bit
about keeping the first mouse that came through a PSI gate - "as you can see,
the damage was not as great as they say."
Rade Serbedzija would be perfect. If you've seen any movie he's acted in, I
think you'll see what I mean.
If you haven't, he's a Croatian actor who has portrayed various Russians like
Boris the Blade in Snatch and Tretiak in the Saint (he's been in many movies:
http://us.imdb.com/Name?Serbedzija,+Rade).
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AcK!
>> I like the idea of Judy Dench as Miriam, but I can't agree with the other two
>> choices. Morgan needs to be more flamboyant and Lal should be more demure.
>> Perhaps a comedic choice for Morgan, like Eddie Murphy or Damon Wayans (my
>> choice, because he seems like he could really pull it off, cutting deals and
>> schmoozing you into following him into Hell in order to reach Paradise).
>
>Ronald Reagan?
Not senile enough.
>> As far as Lal, I'm kind of at a loss for a good actor at this time.
>
>How about Mr Abrahams? He played Gandhi, and the caterpillar in Alice
>in Wonderland, and the Sonaa leader in Star Trek, so his acting range
>covers Indian leaders, erratic personalities, and ruthless, unscrupulous
>antagonists, all of which describe Lal.
What this thread has been short of has been SMACx actors. I wonder if anyone has
ideas for the Caretakers\Guardians. That'd be just too weird.
In fact, they just couldn't do it. 7 major players is already excessive: the
story would have to focus on a couple of main players - the rest might be
included, but would have little more than cameos/background/supporting roles.
14, of course, would be a complete disaster. If you don't believe me... STREET
FIGHTER!
Aha.
<grin>
Now that I'm done with reality, some more idle speculation:
Pirates: Costner in a (much better) reprise of Waterworld?
Domai,
Angels,
Cult - I dunno....
Cybernetic faction: the Seven of Nine actress. Of course, that would fly in the
face of the belief that they should have a growth penalty in the game... ;) [or
would it?]
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Geoffrey Tobin
...
> but it's just an act. That's the point. Only Deirdre (the heroine)
> and Lal come out nice in the story line and even they have big
> vicious streaks in actual play.
Miriam is represented sympathetically in the storyline. She supported
Garland and Lal when the others were looking out for number one. Maybe
her experience in nearly being left to die on the station hardened her
view of the other factions.
J. A. Näkkäläjärvi
> CurtAdams wrote:
> ...
> > Really, I think almost all the leaders present themselves as nice
> > but it's just an act. That's the point. Only Deirdre (the heroine)
> > and Lal come out nice in the story line and even they have big
> > vicious streaks in actual play.
>
> Miriam is represented sympathetically in the storyline. She supported
> Garland and Lal when the others were looking out for number one. Maybe
> her experience in nearly being left to die on the station hardened her
> view of the other factions.
Storyline? What storyline did I miss?
-Kaatunut
Szymon Sokół
>On 22 Mar 2001 04:46:13 GMT, curt...@aol.com (CurtAdams) wrote:
>
>>Too serious? None of the leaders in SMAC are in any way humorous.
>
>Surely you can't ignore the dark (Russian) humour of Zarakhov now, can you?
That's "Zakharov" - BTW, it comes from "Zakhar", Russian for Zechariah.
Accidentally (or maybe not...) it is also similar both in spelling and
pronunciation to "Sakharov", the name of famous Russian scientist and Nobel
laureate - however, that name comes from "sakhar", ie. "sugar".
>Think back to the blurb about matter transportation (PSI gate tech), and the bit
>about keeping the first mouse that came through a PSI gate - "as you can see,
>the damage was not as great as they say."
Oh yes, one of my favourites!
Bernard
boring anyway! ? I think the Angles should be left out also. Ditto for the
Pirates, Cybernetics,
Ben Aflek (?) would be good for the Drones. Wynona Judd as Diedra,The
Spartans (Ms. Weaver), the Peacekeepers, Morgan (S L Jackson) the
University, Believers, Cult and Hive would make the most interesting story
lines I believe.
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AcK!
www.aliencrossfire.com (same page as www.alphacentauri.com) has a background
story to the game that captivated many eager players.
Enjoy. :)
TTYL
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AcK!
>> >I would think Avery Brooks would be a little too... big. Otherwise it's
>a
>> >good pick.
>>
>> Big in what way? It looked like Morgan has quite a belly.
>Not fat, but just big. As in height, width, etc..
Ah, I see.
I'd love to see him giving orders to Morganite security forces though - ah, the
massive battles of DS9.... :)
TTYL
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AcK!
<szy...@bastard.operator.from.hell.pl> wrote:
>>>Too serious? None of the leaders in SMAC are in any way humorous.
>>
>>Surely you can't ignore the dark (Russian) humour of Zarakhov now, can you?
>That's "Zakharov" - BTW, it comes from "Zakhar", Russian for Zechariah.
>Accidentally (or maybe not...) it is also similar both in spelling and
>pronunciation to "Sakharov", the name of famous Russian scientist and Nobel
>laureate - however, that name comes from "sakhar", ie. "sugar".
Oh yeah, forgot... interestingly, he was originally called Sakharov in beta
versions of the game (just like the believers were called "the Conclave"). Some
Russians suggested his name be changed. I'm also unable to recall the logic
behind that move....
Changing the Conclave to the Believers was a mistake, IMHO. Conclave just sounds
so much cooler. :)
Then of course, you have the legacy: the text files that include game
configuration details refer to the "Conclave" when you deal with the Believers'
faction.
Also, note the opening movie to SMAC: Miriam reads a verse from what you'd think
is the Book of Genesis - but it's called the "Conclave BIble."
They must've changed that pretty late in development, then. Still wonder why.
What kind of "conclave" put pressure on them?
>>Think back to the blurb about matter transportation (PSI gate tech), and the bit
>>about keeping the first mouse that came through a PSI gate - "as you can see,
>>the damage was not as great as they say."
>Oh yes, one of my favourites!
[On a totally unrelated note] Szymon, have you heard of "Enemy at the Gates"
If the movie release schedule in Poland is like what I recall, maybe it'll come
out in May or June - all about the battle for Stalingrad. Only major complaint
is that instead of speaking Russian and German with English subtitles (or at the
very least using proper accents) they speak with British accents. Kind of odd.
Decided to bring it up in the newsgroup for no reason, other than that we're on
the topic of movies and I saw it today... it was amazing to see the Russian
assaults - "the man with the gun shoots. When he is killed, the man without the
gun takes the gun and shoot." Repeat until everyone but the stars of the movie
are dead.. :)
TTYL
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David Johnston
> CurtAdams wrote:
> ...
> > Really, I think almost all the leaders present themselves as nice
> > but it's just an act. That's the point. Only Deirdre (the heroine)
> > and Lal come out nice in the story line and even they have big
> > vicious streaks in actual play.
>
> Miriam is represented sympathetically in the storyline. She supported
> Garland and Lal when the others were looking out for number one. Maybe
> her experience in nearly being left to die on the station hardened her
> view of the other factions.
It is interesting that late in the game her quotes take on the aspect of a
spokesman for human dignity against the increasing cyberneticisation of
Planet's society. Apart
from that silly speculation concerning matter transmission, that is.
Szymon Sokół
>On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:55:38 +0100, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Szymon_Sok=F3=B3?=
><szy...@bastard.operator.from.hell.pl> wrote:
>
>>>>Too serious? None of the leaders in SMAC are in any way humorous.
>>>
>>>Surely you can't ignore the dark (Russian) humour of Zarakhov now, can you?
>>That's "Zakharov" - BTW, it comes from "Zakhar", Russian for Zechariah.
>>Accidentally (or maybe not...) it is also similar both in spelling and
>>pronunciation to "Sakharov", the name of famous Russian scientist and Nobel
>>laureate - however, that name comes from "sakhar", ie. "sugar".
>
>Oh yeah, forgot... interestingly, he was originally called Sakharov in beta
>versions of the game (just like the believers were called "the Conclave"). Some
>Russians suggested his name be changed. I'm also unable to recall the logic
>behind that move....
Actually I understand the logic. How would you react to using the name of
Martin Luther King instead of "Pravin Lal"?
By the way: are you by any chance of Polish or Ukrainian descent? I had a
schoolmate named "Krupowski"...
>[On a totally unrelated note] Szymon, have you heard of "Enemy at the Gates"
I know that a movie by that name exists. That's about all I know.
>If the movie release schedule in Poland is like what I recall, maybe it'll come
>out in May or June - all about the battle for Stalingrad. Only major complaint
>is that instead of speaking Russian and German with English subtitles (or at the
>very least using proper accents) they speak with British accents. Kind of odd.
I am not surprised at all. But I will have to see it anyway.
AcK!
<szy...@bastard.operator.from.hell.pl> wrote:
>On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:45:29 GMT, krup...@yahoospa.com (AcK!) wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:55:38 +0100, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Szymon_Sok=F3=B3?=
>><szy...@bastard.operator.from.hell.pl> wrote:
>>
>>>>>Too serious? None of the leaders in SMAC are in any way humorous.
>>>>
>>>>Surely you can't ignore the dark (Russian) humour of Zarakhov now, can you?
>>>That's "Zakharov" - BTW, it comes from "Zakhar", Russian for Zechariah.
>>>Accidentally (or maybe not...) it is also similar both in spelling and
>>>pronunciation to "Sakharov", the name of famous Russian scientist and Nobel
>>>laureate - however, that name comes from "sakhar", ie. "sugar".
>>
>>Oh yeah, forgot... interestingly, he was originally called Sakharov in beta
>>versions of the game (just like the believers were called "the Conclave"). Some
>>Russians suggested his name be changed. I'm also unable to recall the logic
>>behind that move....
>Actually I understand the logic. How would you react to using the name of
>Martin Luther King instead of "Pravin Lal"?
I wouldn't be offended. Maybe some others would be... don't see why though...
they gave Zakharov a totally unrelated background story, no?
>By the way: are you by any chance of Polish or Ukrainian descent? I had a
>schoolmate named "Krupowski"...
Good observation, my background's Polish (born in Canada), but my name ends in
"wicz" instead of ski. My family's also from your corner of the country - more
in the direction of Bielsko-Biala, though.
>>[On a totally unrelated note] Szymon, have you heard of "Enemy at the Gates"
>I know that a movie by that name exists. That's about all I know.
Wonder what wonderful translation they came up with. "Wrug przy bramie?"
Whatever it is, I'll bet it's better than the name of the American show
"Suddenly Susan," which was "A teraz, Susan."
"And now, Susan"? Funny. :)
>>If the movie release schedule in Poland is like what I recall, maybe it'll come
>>out in May or June - all about the battle for Stalingrad. Only major complaint
>>is that instead of speaking Russian and German with English subtitles (or at the
>>very least using proper accents) they speak with British accents. Kind of odd.
>I am not surprised at all. But I will have to see it anyway.
It's very impressive - but I'm now looking forward to "Pearl Harbor" which looks
like it may be even more epic...
TTYL
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IIRC, the original name was "Saratov", and the Russian fans
objected that it wasn't adequate, for some reason.
Antonio
Geoffrey Tobin
...
> IIRC, the original name was "Saratov",
Yes.
> and the Russian fans objected that it wasn't adequate,
> for some reason.
As i recall, the reason was that the name doesn't exist in Russian.
Winston L. Sorfleet
AcK! <krup...@yahoospa.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:04:12 -0500, "Shard" <dmc...@sniip.net> wrote:
>
>>> >I would think Avery Brooks would be a little too... big. Otherwise it's
>>a
>>> >good pick.
>>>
>>> Big in what way? It looked like Morgan has quite a belly.
>>Not fat, but just big. As in height, width, etc..
>
>Ah, I see.
>
>I'd love to see him giving orders to Morganite security forces though - ah, the
>massive battles of DS9.... :)
"We shall fight them in the boardrooms, will shall fight them in the malls,
we shall fight them in the checkout aisles, we shall NEVER surrender..."
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AcK!
>> IIRC, the original name was "Saratov",
>
>Yes.
Ah - that clears up my confusion over what the real original name was...
>> and the Russian fans objected that it wasn't adequate,
>> for some reason.
>
>As i recall, the reason was that the name doesn't exist in Russian.
It could... who wants to become Russian and change their name?
TTYL
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AcK!
Sorfleet) wrote:
>>I'd love to see him giving orders to Morganite security forces though - ah, the
>>massive battles of DS9.... :)
>
>"We shall fight them in the boardrooms, will shall fight them in the malls,
>we shall fight them in the checkout aisles, we shall NEVER surrender..."
LOL!
Equally relevant would be "Never have so many, owed so much, to so few... the
credit card companies."
TTYL
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Szymon Sokół
wrote:
>"Antonio González" wrote:
>...
>> IIRC, the original name was "Saratov",
>
>Yes.
>
>> and the Russian fans objected that it wasn't adequate,
>> for some reason.
>
>As i recall, the reason was that the name doesn't exist in Russian.
Just the opposite. The name exists, but is a *city* name - they even have a
university there, see http://www.sstu.runnet.ru/
Imagine an American named John Chicago or Sam Philadelphia, or George
Washington...er, forget the last one :-)
AcK!
<szy...@bastard.operator.from.hell.pl> wrote:
>On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:45:47 +1000, Geoffrey Tobin <g...@ee.latrobe.edu.au>
>wrote:
>
>>"Antonio González" wrote:
>>...
>>> IIRC, the original name was "Saratov",
>>
>>Yes.
>>
>>> and the Russian fans objected that it wasn't adequate,
>>> for some reason.
>>
>>As i recall, the reason was that the name doesn't exist in Russian.
>
>Just the opposite. The name exists, but is a *city* name - they even have a
>university there, see http://www.sstu.runnet.ru/
>Imagine an American named John Chicago or Sam Philadelphia, or George
>Washington...er, forget the last one :-)
... John Denver... :)
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> Geoffrey Tobin wrote:
> It is interesting that late in the game her quotes take on the aspect of a
> spokesman for human dignity against the increasing cyberneticisation of
> Planet's society. Apart
> from that silly speculation concerning matter transmission, that is.
It's not quite so silly if you actually happen to believe in an immaterial
and immortal soul.
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The "D"
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> kee...@lycosmail.com
> Really, I think almost all the leaders present themselves as nice
> but it's just an act. That's the point. Only Deirdre (the heroine)
> and Lal come out nice in the story line and even they have big
> vicious streaks in actual play.
Deidre's nasty spots are rarely shown in smac but they're there. Some of
those quotes from "Our Secret War" are rather chilling in their
matter-of-factness.