Sephiroth and Setzer: Related?
Rob Emes
> Think about it. Don't they look awfully similar? Could they be
> brothers, or perhaps, cousins? Maybe they're really the same person;
> how much do we REALLY know about Setzer's past? :P
Perhaps 'Daryl' was really Aeris! (Or Aerith. I'm just using Aeris
because it fits with my theory.)
I mean, look at the facts. Both have 5 letter names. If you add 3 to 1,
you get 4. D is the forth letter of the alphabet, A is the first.
Subtract 4 from 5 - 4 plus one extra, for the D, and you get 1, or A. The
R stays the same, because it is in the middle. Y is _6_ letters away from
R (notice a pattern? +4, -5, +6!) and then l, and s. We go back down a
number because we approach the end, so 5 - s = l.
D A R Y L
4 1 18 23 11
3 4 5 6 7 - Or, C D E F G, the notes you are able to play on the Piano
in Tifa's house!
A E R I S
1 5 18 9 19
Or, if you take the ASCII value of those letters, you know what it
spells? Death.
Now, think of this. Imagine, FFVII is a prequel and Setzer is a Sephiroth
incarnate. Daryl did not exist. Daryl was Aeris, and in Setzer's twisted
mind, she really did die in an airship crash. Except, he was the airship.
Alright. I've said too much.
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Justin Sueno
> Think about it. Don't they look awfully similar? Could they be
> brothers, or perhaps, cousins? Maybe they're really the same person;
> how much do we REALLY know about Setzer's past? :P
And have you ever seen them both in the same place, at the same time?
Hmm...
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Eliot
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Eliot wrote in message ...
>Think about it. Don't they look awfully similar? Could they be
>brothers, or perhaps, cousins? Maybe they're really the same person;
>how much do we REALLY know about Setzer's past? :P
Whee, I like that theory! 0;)
I actually did this thing a while back where I figured up who was descended
from whom, using FFIV, FFVI, and FFVII
Night Angel, still sigless
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Fulgore wrote in message ...
>As the weresquirrel, its beady eyes glowing red with rage and hatred, and
>with every hair on it tail as coarse as steel wool, blocked Justin Sueno's
>(su...@aloha.net) path, he/she cried out:
>>
>>On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, Eliot wrote:
>>
>>> brothers, or perhaps, cousins? Maybe they're really the same person;
>>> how much do we REALLY know about Setzer's past? :P
>>
>>Hmm...
>>
>>
>>Justin Sueno
>>su...@aloha.net
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>
>Sephiroth fans and defenders: What?!
>
>Setzer fans and defenders: What?!
>
>Fulg: Well, you see, their names both begin with "S".
>
>Setzer and Sephiroth fans and defenders: <sarcastically> Oh yeah, right.
>
>Fulg: No, you see, Setzer was affected by some random waves of energy as
>Kefka's tower exploded, and this energy made him immortal. Then, the World
>of Ruin healed and became the World of FF7, similar in many ways to the
>World of Balance in FF6. So, millions of years later, with the face of the
>world altered and Shinra controlling everything, Setzer was still alive.
But
>he also had amnesia, and so he forgot his gambling problems, changed his
>name to Sephiroth, forgot why he had never washed all that dirt off his
>face, (and so he washed it off) forgot what had possessed him to begin
>wearing that moth-eaten trenchcoat in the first place and found something
>slightly more functional and fashionable, grew his hair a little, happened
>across some silver Just For Men, and joined Soldier.
>
>Setzer and Sephiroth fans and defenders: WHAT?!!?
>
>Night Angel: Are you saying Setzer's face is dirty?!
grrrr.....
>Erica: Are you saying Sephiroth's hair is actually not silver?!
The big question here is: are you saying that SETZER'S hair is not actually
silver?!
>Fulg: <pauses> Yes to both! Ha! <runs as fast as he possible can as the
>defenders and fans take out assorted guns, swords, and rotten fruits>
>
><Fulg runs down an alley, hoping to see a slightly darker-coloured brick in
>the wall at the apparent dead end. However, to his horror, there is a
>dumpster in front of the hidden switch!>
>
>Fulg: No! They put a dumpster in here while I was gone! Argh!
>
><Fulg frantically tries to push the massive dumpster aside, but to no
>avail.>
>
>Night Angel: There he is!
>
><Assorted fans and defenders of Setzer and Spehiroth charge down the alley
>with their weapons drawn.>
>
>Fulg: Uh...spare me?
>
>***TO BE CONTINUED***
oh, man.... *gasps* CAN'T BREATH!!! TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!
Erica: You've defiled Sephiroth!! For this you shall die!
Night Angel: What she said! err... excepting the part about sephiroth,
and replacing it with setzer... errrr... uhhh...
Assorted fans and defenders: GET ON WITH IT!!!
Fulgore: uh. no... you don't have to, if you don't want to....
heh........
Night Angel: errr.... right! there are few things that I will kill a man
for -
Assorted fans and defenders: *Laugh until they wet themselves*
Erica: let me handle this.
Night Angel: errr... right...
Erica: Fulgore. DIE!!!
Fulgore: *eep!!!*
<Night Angel and Erica aim, point or level their various weapons in
Fulgore's direction. Someone in the back throws fruit>
<suddenly there is the sound of footsteps echoing in the empty street.
Night Angel and Erica freeze>
Voice: Hello?? is there someone back there?
Voice of one of the various fans and defenders: No!!
Voice: uh...huh....
Night Angel: YES! <runs to the end of the alley and comes back with a
spluttering man in tow> ha! This is setzer! We can prove this once and for
all! <assaults Setzer's face with a handkerchief>
Setzer: gah! Help! Insane defender!!!
Voice from among the Asorted fans and defenders: Someone should sell
tickets to this!!!
<fulgore takes the opporitunity to sneak away>
Night Angel: HOLD STILL!!! I've got to prove your face isn't dirty!!
Erica: Night Angel.
Night Angel: What?!
Erica: Fulgore just escaped.
Night Angel: <falls on the ground as she abruptly lets go of Setzer's
shoulder.> WHAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?!
Erica: now we've got to find the little twerp.
Night Angel: errr... whoops?
Assorted fans and Defenders: Twit!
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And therefore is winged Cupid painted blind."
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Fulgore
Erica: Are you saying Sephiroth's hair is actually not silver?!
Fulg: <pauses> Yes to both! Ha! <runs as fast as he possible can as the
defenders and fans take out assorted guns, swords, and rotten fruits>
<Fulg runs down an alley, hoping to see a slightly darker-coloured brick in
the wall at the apparent dead end. However, to his horror, there is a
dumpster in front of the hidden switch!>
Fulg: No! They put a dumpster in here while I was gone! Argh!
<Fulg frantically tries to push the massive dumpster aside, but to no
avail.>
Night Angel: There he is!
<Assorted fans and defenders of Setzer and Spehiroth charge down the alley
with their weapons drawn.>
Fulg: Uh...spare me?
***TO BE CONTINUED***
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And it is all a wasted star, like the donkey that awakens the dawning blade
of grass within the blue table that is all that is unlike humanity. And the
table stands up the ceiling which does not turn white when blighted with the
plague that is the life of a troll, or human life, perhaps the life of a
condemned IBM mousepad covered with a lack of caterpillars... But which is
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> Okay . . . so if Setzer was affected by these rays from the collapse of
> Kefka's bitchin' pad, what about the other thirteen people, eh?
Well, Tifa was probably stowawaying on the Falcon when it happened, and
the ray caused her breasts to rapidly increase in size. That's the only
explaination I have. Anyways, the FF6 characters are fucked up as it
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>
> >Erica: Are you saying Sephiroth's hair is actually not silver?!
>
>
> >Fulg: <pauses> Yes to both! Ha! <runs as fast as he possible can as the
> >defenders and fans take out assorted guns, swords, and rotten fruits>
> >
> ><Fulg runs down an alley, hoping to see a slightly darker-coloured brick in
> >the wall at the apparent dead end. However, to his horror, there is a
> >dumpster in front of the hidden switch!>
> >
> >Fulg: No! They put a dumpster in here while I was gone! Argh!
> >
> ><Fulg frantically tries to push the massive dumpster aside, but to no
> >avail.>
> >
> >Night Angel: There he is!
> >
> ><Assorted fans and defenders of Setzer and Spehiroth charge down the alley
> >with their weapons drawn.>
> >
> >Fulg: Uh...spare me?
> >
> >***TO BE CONTINUED***
>
Time: Several days later.
Jaz, passing an unspecified alley in an unspecified city, hears a noise.
Against her better judgement, she enters the alley.
Jaz: Hello?
Puff Puff: <At Jaz's feet> Jello?
Jaz gives Little Puff Puff a well-placed kick, sending him flying back
out into the street, where he is promptly run over by a steam roller.
Jaz: Is anyone there...? <A voice groans from the shadows of the alley.
Jaz recognizes the shape lying among the garbage bags and rotting
vegetables as that of a grey-haired man in a black trenchcoat.>
Sephiroth?!?!
Setzer: <struggling to his feet> No! No! I'm Setzer! Get Away!
Upon seeing him clearly, the difference is obvious.
Jaz: <approaching Setzer with outstreached hands>
Hey, it's ok! I'm not going to hurt you!
<She reaches out to steady him. His breath reeks of alcohol.>
<Wrinkling her nose> What happened to you?
Setzer: <groggy> Dunno... There was this big gang of people...
mostly women... some of 'em were pretty nice looking...
Jaz: But what happened?
Setzer: Well, they were trying to prove to this guy that I wasn't this
Sephiroth fellow... and then the guy ran away and they all chased
'im, and pretty much trampled me...
<reaches into his coat and triumphantly withdraws a bottle>
And then I found a whole case of these hidden in a secret
passage at the end of the alley! <uncorks bottle and drinks>
Jaz: Uh-huh.
Setzer: Yeah! <takes another drink> I was gonna go to the casino
a few blocks over, but I figued that I'd better use all this
up so that some random guy didn't come here and get smashed
on it... Some people have no self control, you know.
Jaz: Yeah. Well. You don't know where this gang of people were headed,
do you? </maybe they've seen Sephiroth,/ she thought.>
Setzer: They went that-a-way.
<waves bottle in a vague arc at the alley's opposite wall.>
Say... You ever played Dragon Poker? Got a deck of cards?
Jaz: Nevermind. <Lets go of Setzer's shoulder; he topples to one
side, managing to keep the bottle from spilling as he does so.>
Setzer: <As Jaz walks away> Yeah, ok! Nice talking to you!
<subsides into mumbling about Dragon Poker>
Jaz approaches the flat Puff Puff in the middle of the street and picks
him up by a few wisps of fur. The Puff Puff pops back into a spherical
shape.
Puff Puff: New Improved Little Puff Puff! Pastes Great, Less Filling!
Jaz: <Dropping the Puff Puff and wiping her hands on her coat>
Come on. False alarm.
<Exit, Stage Right>
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I like to imagine that Sephiroth is a descendant of Setzer Gabbiani, not the inverse.
Setzer was in contact with magic through the Magicite (which could be a form of Materia from the past, or an old name of the same thing) and maybe it altered his genome in some way. That's why Sephiroth became so powerful after the experiments with Jenova ~infusion~.
I have plenty of other fun link-theories about FFVI - FFVII:
• Cloud is the reincarnation of Clyde, AKA Shadow, and Zacks is Baram reincarnated, doomed to revive the same fate again and again.
• Midgard was built where was the Kefka's Tower (it collapsed at the end of FFVI, remember?). That's why the lifestream can be so easily accessed in this area. The Light of Judgment of Kefka could be a beam of pure lifestream or he was manipulating the White Materia.
• People in the Cult of Kefka were inflicted with geostigma, that's why they were brainwashed in adoration and traded Kefka like a god and have magic powers. Strago was in a trance when we found him, broken by Relm, similar of what we saw in the movie.
• The Cetra was the same group of humans the citizens of Thamasa descends. This means that Aerith's family came from Thamasa.
• Jenova wasn't an alien entity. She actually is what remained of KEFKA after he was destroyed, trying to spread chaos in the world again. Actually, Jenova was Maria, the last tier in Kefka's Tower, a persona of Kefka in some way. That's why she is the Calamity from The Skies: she fell like a meteor from the top of the Tower. This makes the group that defeated Jenova in the past times the Returners, not the Cetra.
• But if the Cetra defeated Jenova, Jenova can be what remained of some evil esper from ancient times, found beneath Kefka's Tower ruins by Shinra.
• Somehow, Vincent is a demi-esper like Terra, that's why he can change forms.
More fun link-theories, I love doing this, It's so fun lol (including more Setzer-Sephiroth theories beneath):
• Setzer and Sephiroth are descendants of Cecil and the lunarians. That's why Setzer can perform so many odd and almost magical abilities with the Slot skill, and maybe why Sephiroth can transform the planet into a vessel, to return to the Red Moon, or destroy it and the lunarians. Maybe it was Zemus behind the plots again OMFG JENOVA IS MARIA THAT IS BARBARICCIAAAAAAAAA no people wait this is too much lol.
• Also, in a conspiratory way, Cecil - CE, Setzer - SE, Sephiroth - SE. almost the same syllable.
• The Ancient Castle is Baron Castle, from FFIV (that's why Odin can be found here. This eidolon was optional in the game, what if Cecil and Rydia never found him?) There must had some kind of war/catastrophe that dethroned Cecil lineage, which ended up in Setzer generation.
• The Ancient Castle could be Damcyan too, because both were built in a desert.
• Gogo isn't Bartz and isn't Daryl, he is only the good old Famed Mimic Gogo, from FFV, who fell into a inter dimensional rift. Unlike Gilgamesh who is leaping from dimension through dimension, Gogo established in FFVI world. Gogo is just a mime goblin. Wasn't he?
• the esper Alexander is what remained from the Giant of Babil.
• the Crusaders are the Knights Of The Round, but at the time of FFVI they were somehow corrupted.
• The Esper Land is the Feymarch, the underground city of eidolons. That's why it can be reached from a cave. Esper is just a modern name of Eidolon. (Maybe Terra is a descendant of Rydia, both have green hair, but that means that Rydia became an Esper/Eidolon?)
• I love the dragoons of the House Highwind. For me it's obvious that Kain (FFIV) is Ricard's son (FFII) and Cid (FFVII) is a descendant of the same family. But there was no member of the Highwind clan in FFVI, but I'm pretty sure that the machinist / engineer side of Cid, more than his first name, came from Edgar. Maybe Kain founded the Figaro Kingdom ages ago and Edgar and Sabin are the Highwind Dragoons of the steampunk era. That's why Edgar is so familiar with spears and the Jump ability. Edgar Roni Figaro of House Highwind (Yeah, Sabin is the black sheep who became a monk. The Highwind monk, the joke at the family reunion at Christmas, poor Sabin). Wow, Cid has royal blood! Aranea too??
• Or Siegfried is a Highwind. Who knows? Who is Siegfried??
• And who X-Zoned Ultros and Typhon and how they ended up in Serendipity in FFXIII? Maybe when ExDeath messed with the time and space in FFV dimension...
Em sexta-feira, 21 de agosto de 1998 04:00:00 UTC-3, Rob Emes escreveu:
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> > brothers, or perhaps, cousins? Maybe they're really the same person;
> > how much do we REALLY know about Setzer's past? :P
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Even a card game for smartphones telling some of Setzer's past, as a prequel/spinoff!)