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Elliot Manning

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Ok, all my characters are at level 60 or higher, Rydia knows all her
magic, same with Rosa, I've every single weapon and Zeromus' true from
has been revealed. Is there a specific way to handle this guy, or do I
have to battle other monsters until I get everyone to level 99?!
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Elliot Manning
emanning!airmail.net

Takahiko Naito

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> > Ok, all my characters are at level 60 or higher, Rydia knows all her
> >magic, same with Rosa, I've every single weapon and Zeromus' true from
> >has been revealed. Is there a specific way to handle this guy, or do I
> >have to battle other monsters until I get everyone to level 99?!

Zeromus is actually pretty tough even if you're level 99. He fights much
smarter and does more damage (I believe.. not sure about the damage part)
when your party is stronger. He adjusts. If you fight well, you can beat
this guy before Rydia learns Meteo or without Cecil's Crystal Sword (as I
did the first time through). But if you don't use a good strategy, he can
wipe out your party of level 60+.

If you need a little help.. remember the saying "Never leave home without
extra Excaliburs." (Your ninja can throw them for close to 9999 damage.)

This was the good old days when the boss was as strong as you were..
nothing like Kefka.. whom you can kill with Locke alone with quick and
double Atma with Offering.. or Sephiroth whom you can kill very easily if
you have KotR. There's no way you can kill Zeromus in one turn.

-Hiko

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> Ok, all my characters are at level 60 or higher, Rydia knows all
her
>magic, same with Rosa, I've every single weapon and Zeromus' true from
>has been revealed. Is there a specific way to handle this guy, or do I
>have to battle other monsters until I get everyone to level 99?!

>--
>Elliot Manning
>emanning!airmail.net
>
>


I like to use use edge to throw (use the whistle t get all your good
sworda and spears from the big chocobo right before the battle), Cecil
and the Crystal sword to figh and give the Defense sword to Kain and
Have him Jump.

I used Rydia and Rosa backwards ... Rydia Heal and Rosa Attack.

In the First round, Have rydia do Bahamut and Rosa White, then after
that keep doing Asura w/ Rydia and White w/ Rosa.

And to stress again, make sure you keep as many wepons as possible, and
have Edge throw EVERY one of them....

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Later yall,
Josh


Captain

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t>, "Elliot Manning" <nos...@for.me> wrote:

> Ok, all my characters are at level 60 or higher, Rydia knows all her
> magic, same with Rosa, I've every single weapon and Zeromus' true from
> has been revealed. Is there a specific way to handle this guy, or do I
> have to battle other monsters until I get everyone to level 99?!

Cecil: Attack with Crystal Sword.

Kain: Jump with White Spear.

Rydia: Either attack or use Asura. You CAN use Meteo, Nuke, or Bahamut, but
be aware of Zeromus' counterattacks: he counters with Weak, Nuke, or Virus
respectively. This can be devastating if you're just trying to play
conservatively and beat him. Follow these general rules:
- Do NOT cast Meteo except at the very beginning (or if you think he's
ready to die). Normally Weak isn't much of a problem, but if he's already
cast Big Bang, your HP will continue to drain and you'll die almost
immediately.
- You can cast Nuke, so long as you feel that you can safely withstand
his counter-Nuke. Usually it hits you for a lot less damage than it hits
him, and since Nuke takes virtually no time to cast, it's a pretty good
tradeoff.
- Don't cast Bahamut. Virus may only do a few hundred damage to
everyone, but when this is compounded with Big Bang it's more of a headache
than you need.
So in sum, other than using Asura or items to heal Rydia is pretty much
useless if you don't feel like living dangerously. It hardly matters - it
only takes a couple of attacks to make up for the effect of a single spell,
and if you want the big 9999 of Meteo it's going to take at least a few
turns just to cast it.

Edge: Throw the Spoon if you have it. Throw the Excalibur. Throw anything
that does more damage than Ninja Stars, and when you can't find anything
else then start throwing Ninja Stars. Repeat the process with Shuriken if
you don't have enough Ninja Stars.

Rosa: Can you say Cure4? Sure, I knew you could. Try to time it so that she
uses it when Kain has landed, and after Zeromus casts Big Bang. You can
cast White for 8000-9999 damage, but like Meteo, it takes a long time to
cast and he counterattacks with Weak, so other than maybe the first round
you're better off not casting it.

Once you begin to wear him down, Zeromus starts using Meteo and Nuke on
you. The battle becomes eerily easy at this point: Nuke is relatively weak;
Meteo misses half of your characters and generally does less than 1000
damage.

The moral of the story: play conservatively and you shouldn't have a problem.

As someone else pointed out, this is a far cry from FF6 and FF7 where the
boss could literally be killed in a single round.

Good luck,

Dan.

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Elliot Manning

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Thanks for your help, but I did it myself. Kick his butt really
easy. MUCH more easily. I keep the battle speed at 1(highest). This time
I turned it back down to 3(default). BIG difference. Before, Zeromus
would do the "big bang" attack too many times for me to keep up with
healing. Plus, I never used elixers in the past, so now I had a nice
resivour. I thought I was just sucking in my tactics. BTW, calling
Bahumut will always be quicker than casting Meteo with Rydia.
Piece of cake. ;)
Thanks, anyway.
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Elliot Manning
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Uematsu

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Elliot Manning wrote:
>
> Ok, all my characters are at level 60 or higher, Rydia knows all her
> magic, same with Rosa, I've every single weapon and Zeromus' true from
> has been revealed. Is there a specific way to handle this guy, or do I
> have to battle other monsters until I get everyone to level 99?!

If you are at level 60, it shouldn't be too hard. Have Cecil attack, Kain
Jump, Edge attack or sneak elixirs from Zeromus, Rydia use Nuke and
Bahamut, and Rosa use Cure3 or Cure4 and Life2 as needed. Don't be afraid
to use your elixirs either. If you are in a pinch after Big Bang, have
Rydia call Asura, and have Rosa cure at the same time. Do you have the
Crystal Sword and the White Lance or Dragoon Lance? It helps to have
these. If all else fails, just get some levels up in the firt level of the
Core. Prepare for some KILLER music in the ending. It's the best music
the best music ever in a game!

Nobuo (Siegfried)

Uematsu

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Elliot Manning wrote:
>
> Ok, all my characters are at level 60 or higher, Rydia knows all her
> magic, same with Rosa, I've every single weapon and Zeromus' true from
> has been revealed. Is there a specific way to handle this guy, or do I
> have to battle other monsters until I get everyone to level 99?!

Oh yeah, I meant to say, have Edge throw your best stuff instead of
fighting.

Nobuo (Siegfried)

Uematsu

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Takahiko Naito wrote:
>
> > > Ok, all my characters are at level 60 or higher, Rydia knows all her
> > >magic, same with Rosa, I've every single weapon and Zeromus' true from
> > >has been revealed. Is there a specific way to handle this guy, or do I
> > >have to battle other monsters until I get everyone to level 99?!
>
> Zeromus is actually pretty tough even if you're level 99. He fights much
> smarter and does more damage (I believe.. not sure about the damage part)
> when your party is stronger. He adjusts. If you fight well, you can beat
> this guy before Rydia learns Meteo or without Cecil's Crystal Sword (as I
> did the first time through). But if you don't use a good strategy, he can
> wipe out your party of level 60+.

I killed Zeromus with just Ninja Edge once... He was at level 99, though,
so I had no problems at all... :)

Nobuo (Siegfried)

JGilb94744

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>Subject: I need help defeating Zeromus! (FF2)
>From: "Elliot Manning" <nos...@for.me>
>Date: Wed, Feb 11, 1998 19:03 EST
>Message-id:
><0D1D351AA593598C.92FE0240...@library-proxy.airnews.net>

>
> Ok, all my characters are at level 60 or higher, Rydia knows all her
>magic, same with Rosa, I've every single weapon and Zeromus' true from
>has been revealed. Is there a specific way to handle this guy, or do I
>have to battle other monsters until I get everyone to level 99?!
>--
>Elliot Manning
>emanning!airmail.net
>
>
>

Have Rosa use Cure 4 after EVERYTHING. Have Cecil fight and use the Life 2
item when needed. Edge should throw the spoon you recieved from Yahn's wife.
Then throw all your strongest extra weapons, then ninga stars. Have Rydia cast
Bahamut or Meteo every round. When she's not healing, have Rosa cast White to
do high damage. For Kain, it's better to have him not jump but fight as
Zeromus may hit him right before he jumps, then when he comes back down you
wont be able to heal him in time. Only have him use jump when you're
absoulutely sure that he wont be injured. Make sure you have all the armor and
weapons that can be found in the final dungeon, particularily crystal sword.
If you do this, he shouldn't be too hard.

-Gilbe

-co-defender of Tifa
-Master of chessy poofs

JGilb94744

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>Subject: Re: I need help defeating Zeromus! (FF2)
>From: Takahiko Naito <hi...@radix.net>
>Date: Wed, Feb 11, 1998 20:50 EST
>Message-id: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980211...@saltmine.radix.net>

>
>> > Ok, all my characters are at level 60 or higher, Rydia knows all her
>> >magic, same with Rosa, I've every single weapon and Zeromus' true from
>> >has been revealed. Is there a specific way to handle this guy, or do I
>> >have to battle other monsters until I get everyone to level 99?!
>
>Zeromus is actually pretty tough even if you're level 99. He fights much
>smarter and does more damage (I believe.. not sure about the damage part)
>when your party is stronger. He adjusts. If you fight well, you can beat
>this guy before Rydia learns Meteo or without Cecil's Crystal Sword (as I
>did the first time through). But if you don't use a good strategy, he can
>wipe out your party of level 60+.
>
>If you need a little help.. remember the saying "Never leave home without
>extra Excaliburs." (Your ninja can throw them for close to 9999 damage.)
>
>This was the good old days when the boss was as strong as you were..
>nothing like Kefka.. whom you can kill with Locke alone with quick and
>double Atma with Offering.. or Sephiroth whom you can kill very easily if
>you have KotR. There's no way you can kill Zeromus in one turn.
>
>

Not one turn, but four or even three maybe. And you don't need to be at level
99 to do so. The damage limit in FF4 seems to go over 9999, as I beat him
incredibly quickly once after throwing Spoon. The next time though, I didn't
throw spoon and it took longer. I think that 9999 is just how much is showed,
can anyone verify this?

Angel Kefka was a loser no matter how high your levels and attack power was.
Fortunately, Sephiroth was greatly improved in challenge, if you dont use
Ultimate Weapons, 4th limit breaks, or KOR that is. :)

-Gilbe

-co-defender of Tifa
-Master of chessy poofs

-Gilbe

JGilb94744

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>Subject: Re: I need help defeating Zeromus! (FF2)
>From: dpos...@spam.me.not.total.net (Captain)
>Date: Wed, Feb 11, 1998 23:32 EST
>Message-id: <dposluns-ya0240800...@news.total.net>

>
>In article
><0D1D351AA593598C.92FE0240...@library-proxy.airnews.ne
>t>, "Elliot Manning" <nos...@for.me> wrote:
>
>> Ok, all my characters are at level 60 or higher, Rydia knows all her
>> magic, same with Rosa, I've every single weapon and Zeromus' true from
>> has been revealed. Is there a specific way to handle this guy, or do I
>> have to battle other monsters until I get everyone to level 99?!
>
True, but without all the super equipment the last bosses of FF6 and FF7 are
almost as tough to just as tough as Zeromus. At least Sephiroth is, Kefka
seems easy no matter what your strength. Poltergeist and the third tier were
much harder than Angel Kefka.

The Dark Shadow

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In a last feeble attempt to overcome the powers of darkness, "Elliot
Manning" <nos...@for.me> chanted the following spell in desperation:

> Ok, all my characters are at level 60 or higher, Rydia knows all her
>magic, same with Rosa, I've every single weapon and Zeromus' true from
>has been revealed. Is there a specific way to handle this guy, or do I
>have to battle other monsters until I get everyone to level 99?!

there is a trick to it, but he can be beaten at fairly low levels. I
know I have pulled it off with characters in the forties....probably
not thirties though, not sure. it is much harder on FF4J hard type
then it is on FF2US. on FF2US, Zeromus is a piece of cake.

first of all, make sure you have all of the crystal equipment for
cecil

Rosa for me, always uses cure 4 unless i am at extremely high levels,
then she doesn't need to as much. Rydia needs to cast nuke or heal
wiht asura. and cecil needs to continually attack with the crystal
sword. if you still have the spoon, throw it. also throw excalibur,
whatever else you have that you can have edge throw. you don't need
them anymore, obviously.

and have kain equipped with the white lance and have him jump every
time.

another thing you can do to help is fight red dragons and win dragoon
spears. you can toss these at zeromus and do a lot of damage and if
kain is equipped with one, he will do near 9999 damage each attack
when fighting red dragons, making it easier to win more.
=============
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Jeffrey T. Jhee

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Uematsu wrote:

>
> Takahiko Naito wrote:
> >
> > > > Ok, all my characters are at level 60 or higher, Rydia knows all her
> > > >magic, same with Rosa, I've every single weapon and Zeromus' true from
> > > >has been revealed. Is there a specific way to handle this guy, or do I
> > > >have to battle other monsters until I get everyone to level 99?!
> >
> > Zeromus is actually pretty tough even if you're level 99. He fights much
> > smarter and does more damage (I believe.. not sure about the damage part)
> > when your party is stronger. He adjusts. If you fight well, you can beat
> > this guy before Rydia learns Meteo or without Cecil's Crystal Sword (as I
> > did the first time through). But if you don't use a good strategy, he can
> > wipe out your party of level 60+.
>
> I killed Zeromus with just Ninja Edge once... He was at level 99, though,
> so I had no problems at all... :)
>
> Nobuo (Siegfried)

That's weird. Usually, he would use Big Bang on the party, then weak,
and whoever was the victim of both would die immediately.

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> That's weird. Usually, he would use Big Bang on the party, then weak,
> and whoever was the victim of both would die immediately.

On the off topic note, Dragon Quest 6's Big Bang (Hagure Metal Lv. 8
Skill) makes this coolest echoing sound effect when you use inside a
cave. All of the sound effect actually "echos" when you're battling in a
cave or a dungeon.. A nice little added touch. I don't think FF7 does
this..

Sean Daugherty

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On or about Wed, 11 Feb 1998 23:14:56 -0800, the accused, Uematsu
<csa...@proaxis.com>, was spotted saying:

>I killed Zeromus with just Ninja Edge once... He was at level 99, though,
>so I had no problems at all... :)

I honestly wish I could remember how I defeated Zeromus, but it's been
almost five years now (the only FF game, besides FF2j, I haven't been
through twice)... I keep meaning to give it another go, but since I'm not
entirely crazy about the game, I've been waiting for the FF4 hardtype
translation to get finished before doing so... I only remember that he
didn't give me *much* of a hard time.

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Jeffrey T. Jhee wrote:

> Uematsu wrote:
> >
> > Takahiko Naito wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Ok, all my characters are at level 60 or higher, Rydia knows all her
> > > > >magic, same with Rosa, I've every single weapon and Zeromus' true from
> > > > >has been revealed. Is there a specific way to handle this guy, or do I
> > > > >have to battle other monsters until I get everyone to level 99?!
> > >
> > > Zeromus is actually pretty tough even if you're level 99. He fights much
> > > smarter and does more damage (I believe.. not sure about the damage part)
> > > when your party is stronger. He adjusts. If you fight well, you can beat
> > > this guy before Rydia learns Meteo or without Cecil's Crystal Sword (as I
> > > did the first time through). But if you don't use a good strategy, he can
> > > wipe out your party of level 60+.
> >

> > I killed Zeromus with just Ninja Edge once... He was at level 99, though,
> > so I had no problems at all... :)
> >

> > Nobuo (Siegfried)


>
> That's weird. Usually, he would use Big Bang on the party, then weak,
> and whoever was the victim of both would die immediately.

1) Edge is a wuss even at 99- I had everyone in my party at 99 and he would die
when I fought Ogopogo.
2) Use BAHAMUT, not Meteor. It's just as strong, with 49 less MP usage.
3)Have rosa cast cure 4 every turn.
4) Edge- throw everything
5) Kain- Jump all the time
6) Cecil- just attack normally
That should do it, it's my strategy.

Reno


The Dark Shadow

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In a last feeble attempt to overcome the powers of darkness, Reno
<mag...@nospam.hotmail.com> chanted the following spell in
desperation:

>1) Edge is a wuss even at 99- I had everyone in my party at 99 and he would die
>when I fought Ogopogo.

I can't say that I have fought Ogopogo at level 99, but I fought
Zeromus at level 99 earlier and beat him one time with the entire
party and without ever using any sort of curative items. I then
fought him a second time to see if I could win with just Kain and
Rydia, I did. So I can see it being possible to beat him with just
Edge. Assuming you have plenty of elixers.

>2) Use BAHAMUT, not Meteor. It's just as strong, with 49 less MP usage.

Use Nuke, faster, at high levels it is close to as good and the spells
Zeromus does in return are not as bad.

Silverwolf

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In article <34E2A0AB...@proaxis.com>, Uematsu <csa...@proaxis.com> wrote:

> Elliot Manning wrote:
> >
> > Ok, all my characters are at level 60 or higher, Rydia knows all her
> > magic, same with Rosa, I've every single weapon and Zeromus' true from
> > has been revealed. Is there a specific way to handle this guy, or do I
> > have to battle other monsters until I get everyone to level 99?!
>

> If you are at level 60, it shouldn't be too hard. Have Cecil attack, Kain
> Jump, Edge attack or sneak elixirs from Zeromus, Rydia use Nuke and
> Bahamut, and Rosa use Cure3 or Cure4 and Life2 as needed. Don't be afraid
> to use your elixirs either. If you are in a pinch after Big Bang, have
> Rydia call Asura, and have Rosa cure at the same time. Do you have the
> Crystal Sword and the White Lance or Dragoon Lance? It helps to have
> these. If all else fails, just get some levels up in the firt level of the
> Core. Prepare for some KILLER music in the ending. It's the best music
> the best music ever in a game!

I agree! The music in that last battle is still my most favorite "fight"
music of all time, and the ending music was great. This was back in the
day when the last battle actually meant something (unlike that wuss Kefka
or Sephiroth). It wasn't just a part fo the game, it was an EVENT.

FF2 will always be my most favorite of the series, story, music, and
battle wise. It just has that "feel" to it..hard to describe, but you know
it's there.

I've beaten every RPG I've ever played, and no victory was as sweet, no
ending as satisfying as when I beat Zeromus. After a hard fought battle, I
was so happy to hear that thunder-clap for the first time, and to see
Zeromus fade into the swirling clouds. That final moment of that battle
felt like it lasted forever, and it's a moment I'll never forget.

That's what beating a game should be all about. Not relief for finally
killing an cheap super-powerful monster, or the apathy of wiping out the
end-boss in two rounds with some ultra-strong item or spell. It should be
about the true elation fo a hard earned victory gained through skill and
sheer determination.


...whoa..I'm starting to get melodramatic here. I better quit now. (can
you tell I love FF2?) ;)

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The Dark Shadow wrote:
>
> In a last feeble attempt to overcome the powers of darkness, Reno
> <mag...@nospam.hotmail.com> chanted the following spell in
> desperation:
>
> >1) Edge is a wuss even at 99- I had everyone in my party at 99 and he would die
> >when I fought Ogopogo.
>
> I can't say that I have fought Ogopogo at level 99, but I fought
> Zeromus at level 99 earlier and beat him one time with the entire
> party and without ever using any sort of curative items. I then
> fought him a second time to see if I could win with just Kain and
> Rydia, I did. So I can see it being possible to beat him with just
> Edge. Assuming you have plenty of elixers.
>
> >2) Use BAHAMUT, not Meteor. It's just as strong, with 49 less MP usage.
>
> Use Nuke, faster, at high levels it is close to as good and the spells
> Zeromus does in return are not as bad.

I love Nuke in that game. It rules to high heaven...

-Joshua
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"As you can see, this is a Playstation black disk. Cut number 1 contains
computer data, so please, don't play it. But you probably won't listen
to me, will you?"
- Alucard, when you put C-SOTN in a CD-player

Joshua Kaufman

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It's FF4 damnet!!!

Uematsu

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Feb 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/14/98
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Silverwolf wrote:
<
< In article <34E2A0AB...@proaxis.com>, Uematsu <csa...@proaxis.com>
wrote:
<
< > these. If all else fails, just get some levels up in the firt level of
the
< > Core. Prepare for some KILLER music in the ending. It's the best
music
< > the best music ever in a game!
<
< I agree! The music in that last battle is still my most favorite "fight"
> music of all time, and the ending music was great. This was back in the
> day when the last battle actually meant something (unlike that wuss Kefka
> or Sephiroth). It wasn't just a part fo the game, it was an EVENT.
>
> FF2 will always be my most favorite of the series, story, music, and
> battle wise. It just has that "feel" to it..hard to describe, but you know
> it's there.

I know what you mean.

> I've beaten every RPG I've ever played, and no victory was as sweet, no
> ending as satisfying as when I beat Zeromus. After a hard fought battle, I
> was so happy to hear that thunder-clap for the first time, and to see
> Zeromus fade into the swirling clouds. That final moment of that battle
> felt like it lasted forever, and it's a moment I'll never forget.
>
> That's what beating a game should be all about. Not relief for finally
> killing an cheap super-powerful monster, or the apathy of wiping out the
> end-boss in two rounds with some ultra-strong item or spell. It should be
> about the true elation fo a hard earned victory gained through skill and
> sheer determination.
>
> ...whoa..I'm starting to get melodramatic here. I better quit now. (can
> you tell I love FF2?) ;)

Were you by any chance the guy that wrote that post with, "Stand up and
yell, 'Fuckin-A', with tears running down my face," (about when Rydia came
back) waaaaay back in Fall 1995 on a.g.f-f? I think everyone was talking
about how great FF2 was. I remember that I laughed uncontrollably for
about a week whenever I thought of that post. I really love FF4, too, even
though I love the others just as much, it was the first really
transcendental experience with a game.

Nobuo (Siegfried)

Kain

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In article <*nospam*neko-13029...@phx-nz-ts6-22.goodnet.com>, *nospam*ne...@netzone.com (Silverwolf) wrote:
>In article <34E2A0AB...@proaxis.com>, Uematsu <csa...@proaxis.com> wrote:
>
>> Elliot Manning wrote:
>> >
>> > Ok, all my characters are at level 60 or higher, Rydia knows all her
>> > magic, same with Rosa, I've every single weapon and Zeromus' true from
>> > has been revealed. Is there a specific way to handle this guy, or do I
>> > have to battle other monsters until I get everyone to level 99?!
>>
>> If you are at level 60, it shouldn't be too hard. Have Cecil attack, Kain
>> Jump, Edge attack or sneak elixirs from Zeromus, Rydia use Nuke and
>> Bahamut, and Rosa use Cure3 or Cure4 and Life2 as needed. Don't be afraid
>> to use your elixirs either. If you are in a pinch after Big Bang, have
>> Rydia call Asura, and have Rosa cure at the same time. Do you have the
>> Crystal Sword and the White Lance or Dragoon Lance? It helps to have
>> these. If all else fails, just get some levels up in the firt level of the
>> Core. Prepare for some KILLER music in the ending. It's the best music
>> the best music ever in a game!
>
>I agree! The music in that last battle is still my most favorite "fight"
>music of all time, and the ending music was great. This was back in the
>day when the last battle actually meant something (unlike that wuss Kefka
>or Sephiroth). It wasn't just a part fo the game, it was an EVENT.
>
>FF2 will always be my most favorite of the series, story, music, and
>battle wise. It just has that "feel" to it..hard to describe, but you know
>it's there.
>
>I've beaten every RPG I've ever played, and no victory was as sweet, no
>ending as satisfying as when I beat Zeromus. After a hard fought battle, I
>was so happy to hear that thunder-clap for the first time, and to see
>Zeromus fade into the swirling clouds. That final moment of that battle
>felt like it lasted forever, and it's a moment I'll never forget.
>
>That's what beating a game should be all about. Not relief for finally
>killing an cheap super-powerful monster, or the apathy of wiping out the
>end-boss in two rounds with some ultra-strong item or spell. It should be
>about the true elation fo a hard earned victory gained through skill and
>sheer determination.
>
>
>....whoa..I'm starting to get melodramatic here. I better quit now. (can

>you tell I love FF2?) ;)

WOO HOO!! Someone else who loves FF4 more than any other game in the series!!
I knew I couldn't be the only one!! Thanks Dr. Nick! :)

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The Akaishic Record states that on Sun, 15 Feb 1998 05:41:00 GMT,
m-sm...@nwu.edu.DeathToSpam (Kain) wrote:

>In article <*nospam*neko-13029...@phx-nz-ts6-22.goodnet.com>, *nospam*ne...@netzone.com (Silverwolf) wrote:
>>In article <34E2A0AB...@proaxis.com>, Uematsu <csa...@proaxis.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Elliot Manning wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Ok, all my characters are at level 60 or higher, Rydia knows all her
>>> > magic, same with Rosa, I've every single weapon and Zeromus' true from
>>> > has been revealed. Is there a specific way to handle this guy, or do I
>>> > have to battle other monsters until I get everyone to level 99?!
>>>
>>> If you are at level 60, it shouldn't be too hard. Have Cecil attack, Kain
>>> Jump, Edge attack or sneak elixirs from Zeromus, Rydia use Nuke and
>>> Bahamut, and Rosa use Cure3 or Cure4 and Life2 as needed. Don't be afraid
>>> to use your elixirs either. If you are in a pinch after Big Bang, have
>>> Rydia call Asura, and have Rosa cure at the same time. Do you have the
>>> Crystal Sword and the White Lance or Dragoon Lance? It helps to have
>>> these. If all else fails, just get some levels up in the firt level of the
>>> Core. Prepare for some KILLER music in the ending. It's the best music
>>> the best music ever in a game!


Here is my strategy for the Defeat of Zeromus (TM) (by character)Oh,
yes, be sure you have the Excalbur Sword. You get this by receiving
Adamant for the Rat Tail, and taking your Sword of Legend to the
Weaponsmith.)

Kain: Jump like a maniac. If HP boost is needed, Fight. If critical,
defend.(duh) Weapon:Holy (White) Lance.

Rydia: Usually nuke. Meteo seems to take too long. But sometimes I
will use it. Weapon: Flame Whip(Though I hardly use it) Also, serves
Rosa with elixir when necessary.

Cecil: Attack, and nothing but attack! Weapon: Crystal
Sword(important, as you will see below) (Use crystal first to reveal
true form.) Alternatively, use him to cover Edge (see below)

Rosa: She is the Healer, so cure 4 Party. If HP is good, use Holy
(White)

Edge: You could try to sneak an elixir off Zeromus, but he is my
strongest character for this battle. Send him in weaponless. His
attacks suck rocks, so start chucking junk at the Big Zero. Start
with the Spoon received after whacking Yang with a frying Pan. Next
round, toss the Excalibur Sword, then the Light Sword, his weapons,
Defense Sword and so on until Zeromus is defeated. Edge is weak
defensively, so you may want to cover with Cecil in lieu of hitting
Zero with the Crystal Sword. Edge's tosses should be enough to do the
Big Guy in, especially since they hit for 9999 every time with the
aforementioned weaponry.

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