How do I defeat the Guardian in FF3??
Jeremy's Mail
In the WOB is there a way to defeat the Guardian In Vector?
Ultimax
Jeremy's Mail wrote:
> In the WOB is there a way to defeat the Guardian In Vector?
Yeah, you have to have a party consiting of GoGo, Umaru, Leo, and Afkek,
when your near death and have your limit breaks up a party coinsiting of
Aerith, Tellah, Sub Zero, and Cid (From FF1) will attack from the other
side, killing it. After winning Aerith, Tellah and Cid will join, Sub
Zero will go back to the veldt where you can learn his rages. Then you
will be able to enter the Imperial Fortress and get Kefka and Gesthal to
join you. This also lets you get the true ending, revive Aerith in FF7,
get the secret Paladin Class in FF5, lets you be able to fly, gives you
x-ray vision, and nothing cuz you can't do it.
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In article <353d9...@news.together.net>, "Jeremy's Mail"
<jer...@together.net> wrote:
> In the WOB is there a way to defeat the Guardian In Vector?
No.
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Takahiko Naito
On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Astos wrote:
> > In the WOB is there a way to defeat the Guardian In Vector?
>
> No.
Just some interesting point. This is an undefeatable scenario boss (not
really a boss.. an obstacle, I guess).. but has anyone actually tried very
very hard to beat it?
The reason I bring this up is...
1) Tales of Destiny: There is also an undefeatable scenario boss in
ToD.. however, this boss's HP is limited. (10,000 or so.. of course,
that's a LOT of damage you have to inflict when you're only about Lv. 15)
But, with memory card cheat, you can start your game with later saved
game's data.. so you could easily defeat this boss with your Lv. 60
characters. Then, the game goes on a fake ending.. basically it's game
over right there. But this boss isn't technically undefeatable, even if
you have to lose in order to progress.
2) Dragon Quest 6: There is one in this game also, late in the game.
However, through a trick (which I'm not sure if it's FWAK or not.. but
obviously some people defeated this boss, so.. *shrug*) you CAN beat this
boss too.. of course, the game progresses like you lost anyway.
So.. with maybe Game Genie codes or something similar, can you get your
Lv. 99 characters to try and beat the Guardian in FF3/6j?
-Hiko
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Takahiko Naito wrote:
>
> On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Astos wrote:
>
> > > In the WOB is there a way to defeat the Guardian In Vector?
> >
> > No.
>
> Just some interesting point. This is an undefeatable scenario boss (not
> really a boss.. an obstacle, I guess).. but has anyone actually tried very
> very hard to beat it?
>
> The reason I bring this up is...
>
> 1) Tales of Destiny: There is also an undefeatable scenario boss in
> ToD.. however, this boss's HP is limited. (10,000 or so.. of course,
> that's a LOT of damage you have to inflict when you're only about Lv. 15)
> But, with memory card cheat, you can start your game with later saved
> game's data.. so you could easily defeat this boss with your Lv. 60
> characters. Then, the game goes on a fake ending.. basically it's game
> over right there. But this boss isn't technically undefeatable, even if
> you have to lose in order to progress.
>
> 2) Dragon Quest 6: There is one in this game also, late in the game.
> However, through a trick (which I'm not sure if it's FWAK or not.. but
> obviously some people defeated this boss, so.. *shrug*) you CAN beat this
> boss too.. of course, the game progresses like you lost anyway.
>
> So.. with maybe Game Genie codes or something similar, can you get your
> Lv. 99 characters to try and beat the Guardian in FF3/6j?
>
>
Perhaps, but the main problem is everyone's attacks only do 0 to
it........
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On or about Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:29:29 -0400, the accused, Takahiko Naito
<hi...@radix.net>, was heard saying:
> So.. with maybe Game Genie codes or something similar, can you get your
> Lv. 99 characters to try and beat the Guardian in FF3/6j?
The problem is that all physical, and, as far as I've tried, magical attacks
do no damage whatsoever upon the damned things. Even Ultima doesn't even dent
its chassis...
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Astos
In article <Pine.SOL.3.95.98042...@saltmine.radix.net>,
Takahiko Naito <hi...@radix.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Astos wrote:
>
> > > In the WOB is there a way to defeat the Guardian In Vector?
> >
> > No.
>
> Just some interesting point. This is an undefeatable scenario boss (not
> really a boss.. an obstacle, I guess).. but has anyone actually tried very
> very hard to beat it?
>
> The reason I bring this up is...
>
> 1) Tales of Destiny: There is also an undefeatable scenario boss in
> ToD.. however, this boss's HP is limited. (10,000 or so.. of course,
> that's a LOT of damage you have to inflict when you're only about Lv. 15)
> But, with memory card cheat, you can start your game with later saved
> game's data.. so you could easily defeat this boss with your Lv. 60
> characters. Then, the game goes on a fake ending.. basically it's game
> over right there. But this boss isn't technically undefeatable, even if
> you have to lose in order to progress.
>
> 2) Dragon Quest 6: There is one in this game also, late in the game.
> However, through a trick (which I'm not sure if it's FWAK or not.. but
> obviously some people defeated this boss, so.. *shrug*) you CAN beat this
> boss too.. of course, the game progresses like you lost anyway.
>
> So.. with maybe Game Genie codes or something similar, can you get your
> Lv. 99 characters to try and beat the Guardian in FF3/6j?
I've tried, and that durn thing seems as near invincible as can exist in a
game. All attacks known to man do 0 damage to it, and it's one of the VERY
few enemies in the game that can't Vanish (in order to Vanish/Doom).
I have another theory to tack onto your list, which is that Lavos in the
Ocean Palace at CT is actually meant to be an unbeatable guardian. Of
course, you can easily beat it with New Game+, but the fact that it doesn't
have a distinct ending when you defeat it at the Ocean Palace makes it
questionable that you should be able to defeat it at all. Instead of its
own ending, it reverts to the Programmers' Ending, almost a default ending
of sorts (the first ending you can possibly see, assuming the "complete"
ending and its variations are left to the end). And the Programmers' Ending
DOES make a bit of a deal about how you completed the game in record time,
and this is your prize for speeding through.
Just a thought,
Dan.
Mensapete
>In the WOB is there a way to defeat the Guardian In Vector?
I'd tell you, but you'd have to revive Tellah and Aerith. And then e-mail
NeoAtma how to get Gen. Leo (runs into the bushes)
Jerry Gilbert
Astos wrote:
>
> In article <Pine.SOL.3.95.98042...@saltmine.radix.net>,
> Takahiko Naito <hi...@radix.net> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Astos wrote:
> >
> > >
I never knew that, what changes in the ending?
Shinyhat
Sean Daugherty <sean...@erols.com> wrote in article
<353e65d5...@news.erols.com>...
> On or about Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:29:29 -0400, the accused, Takahiko Naito
> <hi...@radix.net>, was heard saying:
>
> > So.. with maybe Game Genie codes or something similar, can you get your
> > Lv. 99 characters to try and beat the Guardian in FF3/6j?
>
> The problem is that all physical, and, as far as I've tried, magical
attacks
> do no damage whatsoever upon the damned things. Even Ultima doesn't even
dent
> its chassis...
Interesting that a machine created by magic is more powerful than Kefka,
the concentration of all magic in the universe. Heck, Kefka should have
just had Guardian brought in and had it sit there in his tower. Then he
could say, "You sound like chapters out of a self-help booklet! Take this!"
and had Guardian come and whip your pitiful arses.
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Shinyhat wrote:
> Sean Daugherty <sean...@erols.com> wrote in article
> <353e65d5...@news.erols.com>...
> > On or about Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:29:29 -0400, the accused, Takahiko Naito
> > <hi...@radix.net>, was heard saying:
> >
> > > So.. with maybe Game Genie codes or something similar, can you get your
> > > Lv. 99 characters to try and beat the Guardian in FF3/6j?
> >
> > The problem is that all physical, and, as far as I've tried, magical
> attacks
> > do no damage whatsoever upon the damned things. Even Ultima doesn't even
> dent
> > its chassis...
>
> Interesting that a machine created by magic is more powerful than Kefka,
> the concentration of all magic in the universe. Heck, Kefka should have
> just had Guardian brought in and had it sit there in his tower. Then he
> could say, "You sound like chapters out of a self-help booklet! Take this!"
> and had Guardian come and whip your pitiful arses.
IIRC correctly you actually did have to fight and defeat the guardian in
Kefka's tower, It's been a while though, and I might be wrong.
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Ultimax wrote:
>
> Shinyhat wrote:
>
> > Sean Daugherty <sean...@erols.com> wrote in article
> > <353e65d5...@news.erols.com>...
> > > On or about Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:29:29 -0400, the accused, Takahiko Naito
> > > <hi...@radix.net>, was heard saying:
> > >
> > > > So.. with maybe Game Genie codes or something similar, can you get your
> > > > Lv. 99 characters to try and beat the Guardian in FF3/6j?
> > >
> > > The problem is that all physical, and, as far as I've tried, magical
> > attacks
> > > do no damage whatsoever upon the damned things. Even Ultima doesn't even
> > dent
> > > its chassis...
> >
> > Interesting that a machine created by magic is more powerful than Kefka,
> > the concentration of all magic in the universe. Heck, Kefka should have
> > just had Guardian brought in and had it sit there in his tower. Then he
> > could say, "You sound like chapters out of a self-help booklet! Take this!"
> > and had Guardian come and whip your pitiful arses.
>
> IIRC correctly you actually did have to fight and defeat the guardian in
> Kefka's tower, It's been a while though, and I might be wrong.
>
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>Jeremy's Mail wrote:
>
>> In the WOB is there a way to defeat the Guardian In Vector?
>
>when your near death and have your limit breaks up a party coinsiting of
>Aerith, Tellah, Sub Zero, and Cid (From FF1) will attack from the other
>side, killing it.
Where was there a Cid in FF1?
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In article <01bd6e6d$64857380$f326c8cc@n>, "Shinyhat"
<shin...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> Sean Daugherty <sean...@erols.com> wrote in article
> <353e65d5...@news.erols.com>...
> > On or about Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:29:29 -0400, the accused, Takahiko Naito
> > <hi...@radix.net>, was heard saying:
> >
> > > So.. with maybe Game Genie codes or something similar, can you get your
> > > Lv. 99 characters to try and beat the Guardian in FF3/6j?
> >
> > The problem is that all physical, and, as far as I've tried, magical
> attacks
> > do no damage whatsoever upon the damned things. Even Ultima doesn't even
> dent
> > its chassis...
>
> Interesting that a machine created by magic is more powerful than Kefka,
> the concentration of all magic in the universe. Heck, Kefka should have
> just had Guardian brought in and had it sit there in his tower. Then he
> could say, "You sound like chapters out of a self-help booklet! Take this!"
> and had Guardian come and whip your pitiful arses.
There was a Guardian in Kefka's Tower. However, the foolish thing goes into
Attack Mode, which makes it lose its invulnerability. :P
It's Ultros mode is pretty funny, though... not to mention strong.
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In article <199804232113...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, jr...@aol.com
(JRD80) wrote:
> >Jeremy's Mail wrote:
> >
> >> In the WOB is there a way to defeat the Guardian In Vector?
> >
> >Yeah, you have to have a party consiting of GoGo, Umaru, Leo, and Afkek,
> >when your near death and have your limit breaks up a party coinsiting of
> >Aerith, Tellah, Sub Zero, and Cid (From FF1) will attack from the other
> >side, killing it.
>
> Where was there a Cid in FF1?
He's the invisible guy in Coneria.
Well, he might be, anyway.
Jerry Gilbert
Astos wrote:
>
> In article <01bd6e6d$64857380$f326c8cc@n>, "Shinyhat"
> <shin...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sean Daugherty <sean...@erols.com> wrote in article
> > <353e65d5...@news.erols.com>...
> > > On or about Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:29:29 -0400, the accused, Takahiko Naito
> > > <hi...@radix.net>, was heard saying:
> > >
> > > > So.. with maybe Game Genie codes or something similar, can you get your
> > > > Lv. 99 characters to try and beat the Guardian in FF3/6j?
> > >
> > > The problem is that all physical, and, as far as I've tried, magical
> > attacks
> > > do no damage whatsoever upon the damned things. Even Ultima doesn't even
> > dent
> > > its chassis...
> >
> > Interesting that a machine created by magic is more powerful than Kefka,
> > the concentration of all magic in the universe. Heck, Kefka should have
> > just had Guardian brought in and had it sit there in his tower. Then he
> > could say, "You sound like chapters out of a self-help booklet! Take this!"
> > and had Guardian come and whip your pitiful arses.
>
> There was a Guardian in Kefka's Tower. However, the foolish thing goes into
> Attack Mode, which makes it lose its invulnerability. :P
>
> It's Ultros mode is pretty funny, though... not to mention strong.
>
>
I've seen it switch to Atma Weapon and Air Force (this mode is VERY
strong!). Has anyone seen any others?
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Astos wrote:
>
> In article <199804232113...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, jr...@aol.com
> (JRD80) wrote:
>
> > >Jeremy's Mail wrote:
> > >
> > >> In the WOB is there a way to defeat the Guardian In Vector?
> > >
> > >Yeah, you have to have a party consiting of GoGo, Umaru, Leo, and Afkek,
> > >when your near death and have your limit breaks up a party coinsiting of
> > >Aerith, Tellah, Sub Zero, and Cid (From FF1) will attack from the other
> > >side, killing it.
> >
> > Where was there a Cid in FF1?
>
> He's the invisible guy in Coneria.
>
> Well, he might be, anyway.
Actually, no. If you go to Cornia after you have gotten promoted, you
will find that you can now see the invisible "guy", but it's a girl!
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> Astos wrote:
> >
> > In article <199804232113...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, jr...@aol.com
> > (JRD80) wrote:
> >
> > > >Jeremy's Mail wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> In the WOB is there a way to defeat the Guardian In Vector?
> > > >
> > > >Yeah, you have to have a party consiting of GoGo, Umaru, Leo, and Afkek,
> > > >when your near death and have your limit breaks up a party coinsiting of
> > > >Aerith, Tellah, Sub Zero, and Cid (From FF1) will attack from the other
> > > >side, killing it.
> > >
> > > Where was there a Cid in FF1?
There was if you named one of your characters Cid...
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In article <353d9...@news.together.net>,
"Jeremy's Mail" <jer...@together.net> wrote:
>
> In the WOB is there a way to defeat the Guardian In Vector?
>
>
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On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:27:35 -0600, somep...@usa.net wrote:
>In article <dposluns-ya0240800...@news.total.net>,
> dpos...@spam.me.not.total.net (Astos) wrote:
>>
>> In article <199804232113...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, jr...@aol.com
>> (JRD80) wrote:
>>
>> > >Jeremy's Mail wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> In the WOB is there a way to defeat the Guardian In Vector?
>> > >
>> > >Yeah, you have to have a party consiting of GoGo, Umaru, Leo, and Afkek,
>> > >when your near death and have your limit breaks up a party coinsiting of
>> > >Aerith, Tellah, Sub Zero, and Cid (From FF1) will attack from the other
>> > >side, killing it.
>> >
>> > Where was there a Cid in FF1?
>>
>> He's the invisible guy in Coneria.
>>
>> Well, he might be, anyway.
>>
>> Dan.
>>
>Where is the invisible guy?
>
You know, for some reason this reminds me of the Invisible Singer from
"The Three Amigos." Don't ask why, since I probably can't tell you.
Anyways... I thought he was in one of the rooms in Corneria castle
that doesn't have anyone else in it. Just a big, square room. Well,
with an invisible guy in it, that is.
Which brings up another point. How do you even know you're talking to
an invisible guy? How do you know that your character doesn't just
happen to start talking to himself? I mean... four adventurers
travelling together must get pretty sick of each other, after a while.
I know *I'd* start talking to myself, just to have some variation in
company. Or I'd talk to my figgin, anyways.
>>>IceTigger<<<
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cor...@ipest.net
Replace the "ipest" with "ipass" to mail me!
Official Disciple of El Pollo Diablo
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Our Hard Drive
Which art internal
Volume C by name;
Thy code be clean,
Thy fonts be seen
On Screen as they are on paper.
Give us this day our documents,
And lead us not into fragmentation
But deliver us our data.
For thine is the SCSI,
And te EISA, and the NuBus,
Forever and Ever,
Amen
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Flashblayde's Long Lost Brother, Reunited
at Last! YAAAAAAAAAAY!
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Eldrick Tobin
When Ami Kintaro was having fun in shower on, Sat, 25 Apr 1998 02:15:00
GMT, & Eldrick was peeking thinking she didn't know damn well that he was
watching her, cor...@ipasss.net (IceTigger), tapped Eldrick on the
shoulder, & said the following:
Um... IceTigger... who are you talking to...?
/Vote for me for AGFF Official Horny Bastard
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Eldrick Tobin (Jason F. Long to some)
Creator of Ami Kintaro the Fictional Hentai Anime Girl, who even though I created her
and she isn't a bit real... I feel for her... she is showing me what a bastard I
really am. Funny that.
Slayer of Algus and Dycedarg (so I like the parts where they die... they're bastards!)
Considering being a Defender... just no defendee -yet
Considering a Posting Alias for this group... that won't get me killed.
Winner of:
The Offical GFOX Most Amazing Rambling and Pointless Longwinded Post of the MONTH
10 Otaku points.
0 Cutey Points.
0 Insanity Points.
Hander out of the OCCASIONAL Cape Coin:
[It Allows One Bat of Justice= Doing 99% damage to the target and leaving them with
1% of their total HP. Or Kill someone outright if their max HP is under 10.
OR One Hammer Summon Followed By One Hammer Smash= Will Add: Dead or do 200 points
of damage -which may kill the target anyway.]
http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/eastindia/40
http://eldrick.simplenet.com/main.html
mailto: eldrick at mindless dot com
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Sorry for the inconvenience.
Quotes:
[Damn it sex is overrated! I want love love love!] Me (if wrong correct me)
[I just know is shouldn't have posted this] -Cheesedemon
[Must. Find. More. Campaigns.] -Cheesedemon, what can I say I empathize
[That's going in the sig...] -various sources (Originally by Edwyn)
[It's merely a case of acknowledging that screwage is required for procreation.
Had my parents not gone at it on or around September 26, 1978, I wouldn't be
alive. And that's all I have to say on the subject. You, on the other hand,
would go into a massive dissertation if you felt so inclined. :P ] -Kain talking
about the beginnings of his life.
[... One thing I never do is refer to it as "screwage." #;-}> I certainly
would, but not about your parents.] -Greg replying to the Above from Kain
[He who points out the obvious in an attempt to point out
that which is not obvious, is in essence, doing nothing
at all.] -Timo. commenting on Greg saying that Edwyn is
too repetitative.
[I can't believe....
I'm not even....
...oh look! A "Send" button!] -Timo (does it really matter why or when)
Sorry timo the big door thing is now gone... hope you aren't upset.
[Yeah, them rainbows do that, don't that? They just barge in,
crawl up your leg and bite the inside of your ass, and then
you say, "GODDAMNIT! GET OUT OF MY ASS YOU GODDAMNED
RAINBOW!] -Cartman
[Because I am a vain bastard, I would like to nominate something I myself said
in an apparently ignored post a couple of days ago. ] -Eyeglazer
[
I'm pretty sure I have a good quote from myself, but I can't remember it.
] -Neptune Salad
[That was the suckiest two days of my suckfest I call a life.] -timo suave
[Kill the monkey!!!] -Wyvern about Diddy Kong (my sentiments exactly)
["Hmm... There, I just did it again! There's no possibility of escape!! Everything
past, present, and future was and is said by Edwyn!!!!!!!] -Siegfried going way off
the deep end...
[Mmmm.... Atma may be invincible, but we can still make him puke.] -Nep,
Neptune Salad's brother.
[I despise being lonely, but unfortunately I'm too complacent to do anything
about it...] -St. Kain
[ I mean..in this life you can still do things...and live...and make things
better...but when you're dead...you're dead! Poof..you're gone!] -Small Girl
about life
to give you an idea of Agent sig restrictions...
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