I've found a secret "movie" in FFVII.
StriderbWo
After Cloud finds himself, go back to Neiblem and go into the Shinra Mansion,
go to the basement Spehiroth was in. It will open up a secret cinema where you
REALLY find out why Cloud became a mercenary and how he got Zack's sword.
Jevon den Ridder
Are you joking? Tell us what happeneds. And what do you mean 'when he
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Jevon den Ridder <jd...@cableol.co.uk> wrote in article
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> StriderbWo wrote:
> >
> > After Cloud finds himself, go back to Neiblem and go into the Shinra
Mansion,
> > go to the basement Spehiroth was in. It will open up a secret cinema
where you
> > REALLY find out why Cloud became a mercenary and how he got Zack's
sword.
>
> Are you joking? Tell us what happeneds. And what do you mean 'when he
> finds himself'?
> --
.....Found himself..... meaning when Tifa helps him return from the
lifestream ...... I found this video quite a while ago....
Michael Astrauskas
> After Cloud finds himself, go back to Neiblem and go into the Shinra Mansion,
> go to the basement Spehiroth was in. It will open up a secret cinema where you
> REALLY find out why Cloud became a mercenary and how he got Zack's sword.
Two things:
1. You can consider it a secret, because it was added into the American
translation of the game (and FFVIIi).
2. It's fun to see Zack shake like that (you know what I mean).
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Jevon den Ridder
>
> Jevon den Ridder <jd...@cableol.co.uk> wrote in article
> <3616D4...@cableol.co.uk>...
> > >
> > > After Cloud finds himself, go back to Neiblem and go into the Shinra
> Mansion,
> > > go to the basement Spehiroth was in. It will open up a secret cinema
> where you
> > > REALLY find out why Cloud became a mercenary and how he got Zack's
> sword.
> >
> > finds himself'?
> > --
> .....Found himself..... meaning when Tifa helps him return from the
> lifestream ...... I found this video quite a while ago....
>
I'm not in the mood to start a new game yet.
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Joshua Kaufman
>
> StriderbWo wrote:
> >
> > After Cloud finds himself, go back to Neiblem and go into the Shinra Mansion,
> > go to the basement Spehiroth was in. It will open up a secret cinema where you
> > REALLY find out why Cloud became a mercenary and how he got Zack's sword.
>
> Are you joking? Tell us what happeneds. And what do you mean 'when he
> finds himself'?
After Tifa goes into his mind. And you can access that movie at any time
after Cloud becomes leader again, so unless you deleted your game, you
could easily go back and see it.
-Joshua
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Jevon den Ridder
>
> Jevon den Ridder wrote:
> >
> > StriderbWo wrote:
> > >
> > > After Cloud finds himself, go back to Neiblem and go into the Shinra Mansion,
> > > go to the basement Spehiroth was in. It will open up a secret cinema where you
> > > REALLY find out why Cloud became a mercenary and how he got Zack's sword.
> >
> > Are you joking? Tell us what happeneds. And what do you mean 'when he
> > finds himself'?
>
> After Tifa goes into his mind. And you can access that movie at any time
> after Cloud becomes leader again, so unless you deleted your game, you
> could easily go back and see it.
>
about how to get the Tiny Bronco, what to do with 1/35th, but is there
any more plot stuff that's secret? Also, what was that letter with Tifa
and Zack or something about during the game? I haven't played FF7 for a
while, so I don't remember how they ended up in Nibelheim together. Did
Zack survive Sephiroth's blow, and is that how they ended up there?
Thanks.
> -Joshua
Corwin
StriderbWo wrote in message
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>
>After Cloud finds himself, go back to Neiblem and go into the Shinra
Mansion,
>go to the basement Spehiroth was in. It will open up a secret cinema where
you
>REALLY find out why Cloud became a mercenary and how he got Zack's sword.
Umm... yeah, that's a REAL big secret..... except for one thing, I've seen
it too!!!!!!!!!!!!!(sorry if that was a bit annoying)
yeah, he's going back to midgar, zack dies, and cloud keeps his sword. Some
old guy drives them back in his truck, and asks them what they're going to
do, and zack suggest "let's be mercenaries" cloud kind of agrees. Later (I
don't remember why) some ppl from SOLDIER start shooting at them, zack falls
down, dead, cloud also falls down, looking dead, later cloud wakes and finds
zacks sword.
to access it (if this is the one he's talking about) you have to go into the
basement of the mansion, and walk into the place where seph was
studying. You, however can't get the key from the safe first. In otherwords
you have to do it before you get vincent, but after sephiroth
and his clones leave nibelheim. I didn't really think it was a secret when
I found it out.
Larry Gresh
dibbler
You don't need to do this before you get Vincent. It happens after you get
Cloud back, long after most people have already found Vincent. What you see
is Cloud's memory, but he won't remember this until he and Tifa have fallen
into the lifestream at Mideel.
the magnificent human guy
It's not a mainstream sequence.
BTW Read the two tubes, then go back into the other reading room and read
the books, you'll get some things. BTW Zack is A and Cloud is B.
Jevon den Ridder
> the
> >basement of the mansion, and walk into the place where seph was
> >studying. You, however can't get the key from the safe first. In
> otherwords
> >you have to do it before you get vincent, but after sephiroth
> >and his clones leave nibelheim. I didn't really think it was a secret when
> >I found it out.
> >
>
> Cloud back, long after most people have already found Vincent. What you see
> is Cloud's memory, but he won't remember this until he and Tifa have fallen
> into the lifestream at Mideel.
So there could be other places with memory sequences, like the reactor
where he fought Sephiroth at Nibelheim. BTW, how did Zack and Cloud end
up in the tubes? Didn't Zack buy it when Sephiroth sliced him?
the magnificent human guy
>where he fought Sephiroth at Nibelheim. BTW, how did Zack and Cloud end
>up in the tubes? Didn't Zack buy it when Sephiroth sliced him?
Tifa didnt, cloud didn't, and zack didn't.
Joshua Kaufman
>
> >Subject: I've found a secret "movie" in FFVII.
> >From: strid...@aol.com (StriderbWo)
> >Date: 10/3/98 8:29 PM EST
> >Message-id: <19981003212947...@ng-fd1.aol.com>
> >
> >
> >After Cloud finds himself, go back to Neiblem and go into the Shinra Mansion,
> >go to the basement Spehiroth was in. It will open up a secret cinema where
> >you
> >REALLY find out why Cloud became a mercenary and how he got Zack's sword.
>
> please, PLEASE use the word SPOILER when you post something that happens
> greater than, on average, 15 hours in an RPG.
Fuck spoiler space, the game's bene out long enough.
You know, Leo dies, Galuf dies, Tellah dies, Zemus if the last boss of
FF4, Rudy is a robot, Gremio and Pahn die, Mother is the last boss of
WA, Samus is a female ^_^
CKillerBGo
>Subject: I've found a secret "movie" in FFVII.
>From: strid...@aol.com (StriderbWo)
>Date: 10/3/98 8:29 PM EST
>Message-id: <19981003212947...@ng-fd1.aol.com>
>
>
>After Cloud finds himself, go back to Neiblem and go into the Shinra Mansion,
>go to the basement Spehiroth was in. It will open up a secret cinema where
>you
>REALLY find out why Cloud became a mercenary and how he got Zack's sword.
Hmmm, a fellow Strider, eh? As one Strider to another, I must tell you to
please, PLEASE use the word SPOILER when you post something that happens
greater than, on average, 15 hours in an RPG.
Killer B, the FORCE to be
aka: Strider Whatshisnuts, Sailor Fuse
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Imperium IRPO Hand Blaster
Defender of SaGa Frontier and Orlandu ("T.G. Cid")
Co-defender of any other "Cid"
Jevon den Ridder
>
> Quoting msg <3616D4...@cableol.co.uk>
> Jevon den Ridder said:
>
> >Are you joking? Tell us what happeneds. And what do you mean 'when he
> >finds himself'?
>
> himself) visit the Shinra Mansion Library. You'll lean about the two
> different beaker scratches, and the four escapee reports. Basically, the
> video shows what happened to Cloud (and Zack) after Cloud tossed Sephiroth
> into the lifestream. Spoiler:
> .
> .
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> .
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> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> .
> Seems that Hojo was up to his old tricks again. If you remember from
> the first flashbacks to the Shinra Mansion, the "beakers" were glowing
> green. That's because they were filled with Mako, and after Cloud and Zack
> were found after Sephiroth went bdbdbdbdbdbd, they were placed in the two
> beakers. The scratches on them were their messages to each other ("Let's
> get out of here," and "During feeding time"). They escape with Zack
> supporting the Mako-poisoned Cloud, hitchhike by truck to Midgar, are found
> outside of town by Shinra soldiers, where Zack is shot and killed, and Cloud
> is left for dead. Cloud recovers, grabs Zack's sword, and the next time you
> see him is during Tifa's flashback, who finds Cloud going bzzt at the train
> station. The rest is easy to figure. Cloud goes on Mission 1 to take out
> the Mako reactor with Barret at the game's beginning, and you know the rest.
>
EMI, but what happens in Tifa's flashback again? I haven't played the
game in ages. Also, is the report of what happened to Cloud's town a
secret?
Jevon den Ridder
>
> CKillerBGo wrote:
> >
> > >Subject: I've found a secret "movie" in FFVII.
> > >From: strid...@aol.com (StriderbWo)
> > >Date: 10/3/98 8:29 PM EST
> > >Message-id: <19981003212947...@ng-fd1.aol.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >After Cloud finds himself, go back to Neiblem and go into the Shinra Mansion,
> > >go to the basement Spehiroth was in. It will open up a secret cinema where
> > >you
> > >REALLY find out why Cloud became a mercenary and how he got Zack's sword.
> >
> > Hmmm, a fellow Strider, eh? As one Strider to another, I must tell you to
> > please, PLEASE use the word SPOILER when you post something that happens
> > greater than, on average, 15 hours in an RPG.
>
> You know, Leo dies, Galuf dies, Tellah dies, Zemus if the last boss of
> FF4, Rudy is a robot, Gremio and Pahn die, Mother is the last boss of
> WA, Samus is a female ^_^
>
> -Joshua
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>
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>
Joshua Kaufman
>
> Joshua Kaufman wrote:
> >
> > CKillerBGo wrote:
> > >
> > > >Subject: I've found a secret "movie" in FFVII.
> > > >From: strid...@aol.com (StriderbWo)
> > > >Date: 10/3/98 8:29 PM EST
> > > >Message-id: <19981003212947...@ng-fd1.aol.com>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >After Cloud finds himself, go back to Neiblem and go into the Shinra Mansion,
> > > >go to the basement Spehiroth was in. It will open up a secret cinema where
> > > >you
> > > >REALLY find out why Cloud became a mercenary and how he got Zack's sword.
> > >
> > > Hmmm, a fellow Strider, eh? As one Strider to another, I must tell you to
> > > please, PLEASE use the word SPOILER when you post something that happens
> > > greater than, on average, 15 hours in an RPG.
> >
> > Fuck spoiler space, the game's bene out long enough.
> > You know, Leo dies, Galuf dies, Tellah dies, Zemus if the last boss of
> > FF4, Rudy is a robot, Gremio and Pahn die, Mother is the last boss of
> > WA, Samus is a female ^_^
> >
> > -Joshua
> > --
> >
> > User of the name Aerith... Master bad punner... Composer of 8 opi....
> > Player of FF series... Worshiper of Nobuo Uematsu... Watcher of Sailor
> > Moon... Member of the Ellipsis Faction... Proprietor of the ellipsis...
> >
> I'd better forget those names when I find FF2 (4?). Asshole.
My point is, that once the game has been out long enugh, spoiler spaces
should not be required. Do you need to put spoiler spaces to say that
Bowser is the last boss of SMB?
-Joshua
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RoniXt
Cloud. I don't know why he just fell off with a suprised look though.
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RoniXt
Weapon for the first time. Tifa collapses and remembers it.
Here's a point that my friend brought up though.
In the manual, and other statistic pages about FF7, they say Cloud's
twenty-one, but when Cloud meats Tifa in the train station, Cloud askes
"It's been four years right?" Tifa replies,
"No it was seven"
Back to Cloud's story told in Kalm, ...four years ago, I was sixteen
Did they mess up or what?
Michael Ferranti wrote in message <361b0910....@news.evansinet.com>...
>Quoting msg <361A3A...@cableol.co.uk>
>Jevon den Ridder said:
>
>>EMI, but what happens in Tifa's flashback again?
>
> After Cloud regains his memory (or somewhere in there), Tifa flashes
>back to meeting Cloud at the train station. He's flaked out, and Tifa says
>something like, "Cloud? Is it really you?" and Cloud does his Soldier
>impression, raising his sword in a classic swordsman's stance, almost
>looking like he's about to hit her with the thing, jerking spastically a
bit
>and making bzzt! noises, and replies with something like, "Yeah, that's me.
>I'm Cloud, member of Soldier." It was a really short scene, and then she
>temporizes about wondering if it was really him, and deciding to bring him
>into Avalanche to "keep an eye on him." I just can't remember if she had
>the flashback just before or just after they left the lifestream. I think
>it was after, when she fell back asleep/passed out on everyone.
>
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Mr T Ferguson
> Actually, I think its after they leave Cloud in the lifestream and meet
> Weapon for the first time. Tifa collapses and remembers it.
> Here's a point that my friend brought up though.
>
> In the manual, and other statistic pages about FF7, they say Cloud's
> twenty-one, but when Cloud meats Tifa in the train station, Cloud askes
> "It's been four years right?" Tifa replies,
> "No it was seven"
> Back to Cloud's story told in Kalm, ...four years ago, I was sixteen
> Did they mess up or what?
The story happened *five* years ago, so that is correct there.
And at the train station, IIRC, Tifa is actually referring to the last
time *she* saw Cloud, which was when Cloud announced at the well that he
was going to leave Nibelheim and join SOLDIER.
Ciao,
Terence Fergusson
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the magnificent human guy
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Conclusion? Sephiroth bites at the kill-the-heroes thing. He only managed
to kill someone after he was dead.
the magnificent human guy
RoniXt wrote in message <6vhouu$av7$1...@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
>Actually, I think its after they leave Cloud in the lifestream and meet
>Weapon for the first time. Tifa collapses and remembers it.
>Here's a point that my friend brought up though.
>
>In the manual, and other statistic pages about FF7, they say Cloud's
>twenty-one, but when Cloud meats Tifa in the train station, Cloud askes
>"It's been four years right?" Tifa replies,
>"No it was seven"
>Back to Cloud's story told in Kalm, ...four years ago, I was sixteen
>Did they mess up or what?
>
It was _five_ years.