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Matti Mäki-Petäys

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Mar 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/5/00
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My problem this time:

I have the suitcase for Mr. Bishop, and whenever I give him the suitcase, he
says the guy who gave it to me has slipped there a note that I cannot be
trusted, and from there on all three dialog options lead to a fight.

A number of problems rises from this:
1) if I just go up to give the suitcase, I have my party with me, but cannot
do anything with Bishop's wife/daughter (or at least I guess that much).
2) if I go up with Bishop's wife, I'll have to face Bishop & his bodyguards
alone. Not a problem, but when I return to the 2nd floor, Angela Bishop is
ready to join the fight with the bodyguards (and I'd like to party with her
too, I've heard there's something in the end animation because of it. But I
don't want to know it now and here...). And I still have to fight all of
them alone.
3) haven't tried this yet, but I'd guess that if I go up with Angela first,
I could have it all (although I'd still have to do it alone). Or probably
not. How would mrs. Bishop react to his husband and bodyguards being killed
?

Bishop's daughter & wife and my party with me in the fight - I want it all !
Probably can't get it that way, so I'd rather get the two first and fight
alone, if I can choose. What can I do ? Wait until next level and spend the
points to speech and HOPE I can weasel myself out with the dialogue with Mr.
Bishop ? Try that "Angela first" trick ? Something else ?


Avalanche

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Mar 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/5/00
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I never had that problem, the guy slipping a note in the briefcase. Maybe
you charisma is too low, you have a bad rep., or is it that you have Vault
citizen paper's? The guy is against Vault city, so if you're one of them, it
may be logical that you cannot be trusted...

Daniël

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Nightjar

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Matti Mäki-Petäys <matti.ma...@nospam.please.iki.fi> wrote in
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> My problem this time:
>
> I have the suitcase for Mr. Bishop, and whenever I give him the
suitcase, he
> says the guy who gave it to me has slipped there a note that I cannot
be
> trusted, and from there on all three dialog options lead to a fight.

Don't do anything to make Thomas Moore think you can't be trusted. Agree
with him wholeheartedly and whatever you do, don't try to blackmail him
about his connections with the Bishop family when he gives you the
suitcase. Then the note says you are to be trusted.

>
> A number of problems rises from this:
> 1) if I just go up to give the suitcase, I have my party with me, but
cannot
> do anything with Bishop's wife/daughter (or at least I guess that
much).
> 2) if I go up with Bishop's wife, I'll have to face Bishop & his
bodyguards
> alone.

> 3) haven't tried this yet, but I'd guess that if I go up with Angela
first,
> I could have it all (although I'd still have to do it alone). Or
probably
> not. How would mrs. Bishop react to his husband and bodyguards being
killed

If you have the suitcase with the note that says you are to be trusted,
Bishops does not seem to notice that you have just come from his private
apartments. The same is true if you are returning from one of his
missions. It is possible to go with both women that way, although if you
do decide you want to wipe the Bishops out and you want to leave one of
the ladies alive, do the killing after leaving her in her bedroom. If
you want to leave both alive, go with Angela second and don't go back
into the room where Mrs Bishop hangs out. Either of them will attack you
if you have started to kill Bishop or his men.

Colin

spiney

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Mar 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/6/00
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Hey,

If you are in New Reno and the note has been slipped in already, you are dead
anyways so you have to fight the guards.

I have found a way to get out of the top floor without facing Mr Bishiop and his
goons. After you had your adventure with Ms B or Angela B, loot all the lockers
without setting off the traps (duh) and open the door to Mr B's office, do not
enter but click on the stairs while you are still in the hallway. you walk right
past them because they do not interrupt your action. Looks like a bug made the
feature status.

Spiney

"Matti Mäki-Petäys" wrote:

> My problem this time:
>
> I have the suitcase for Mr. Bishop, and whenever I give him the suitcase, he
> says the guy who gave it to me has slipped there a note that I cannot be
> trusted, and from there on all three dialog options lead to a fight.
>

> A number of problems rises from this:
> 1) if I just go up to give the suitcase, I have my party with me, but cannot
> do anything with Bishop's wife/daughter (or at least I guess that much).
> 2) if I go up with Bishop's wife, I'll have to face Bishop & his bodyguards

> alone. Not a problem, but when I return to the 2nd floor, Angela Bishop is
> ready to join the fight with the bodyguards (and I'd like to party with her
> too, I've heard there's something in the end animation because of it. But I
> don't want to know it now and here...). And I still have to fight all of

> them alone.


> 3) haven't tried this yet, but I'd guess that if I go up with Angela first,
> I could have it all (although I'd still have to do it alone). Or probably
> not. How would mrs. Bishop react to his husband and bodyguards being killed

> ?
>
> Bishop's daughter & wife and my party with me in the fight - I want it all !
> Probably can't get it that way, so I'd rather get the two first and fight
> alone, if I can choose. What can I do ? Wait until next level and spend the
> points to speech and HOPE I can weasel myself out with the dialogue with Mr.
> Bishop ? Try that "Angela first" trick ? Something else ?

--
"Let life be short, else shame will take too long" -The Dauphin.

Spook

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Mar 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/6/00
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Matti Mäki-Petäys <matti.ma...@nospam.please.iki.fi> skrev i
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> My problem this time:
>
> I have the suitcase for Mr. Bishop, and whenever I give him the suitcase,
he
> says the guy who gave it to me has slipped there a note that I cannot be
> trusted, and from there on all three dialog options lead to a fight.
Do you have a low INT/CHA/REP/Speach? I have always given him the suitcase
and asked him for a new job.

>
> A number of problems rises from this:
> 1) if I just go up to give the suitcase, I have my party with me, but
cannot
> do anything with Bishop's wife/daughter (or at least I guess that much).
Give him the case and ask for a new job.

> 2) if I go up with Bishop's wife, I'll have to face Bishop & his
bodyguards
> alone. Not a problem, but when I return to the 2nd floor, Angela Bishop is
> ready to join the fight with the bodyguards (and I'd like to party with
her
> too, I've heard there's something in the end animation because of it. But
I
> don't want to know it now and here...). And I still have to fight all of
> them alone.
If Bishop have given you a new job, you can go up with either his wife or
his doughter, and when you leave he will only ask if you finished the job
yet, and if you say you just need to do something first you can go down, and
if you want go up with the girl left and repete the procedure.

> 3) haven't tried this yet, but I'd guess that if I go up with Angela
first,
> I could have it all (although I'd still have to do it alone). Or probably
> not. How would mrs. Bishop react to his husband and bodyguards being
killed
> ?
Well If you kill them whout her noticing it, quite well since she hate her
husband.

>
> Bishop's daughter & wife and my party with me in the fight - I want it all
!
> Probably can't get it that way, so I'd rather get the two first and fight
> alone, if I can choose. What can I do ? Wait until next level and spend
the
> points to speech and HOPE I can weasel myself out with the dialogue with
Mr.
> Bishop ? Try that "Angela first" trick ? Something else ?
>
>
>

--

Spook

"Live long and prosper"

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