News Flash : PVP- killed by another PVP-
Khyrdin
business with the merchant, when I hear the door open behind me. Just
as I'm buying some food, I notice that Frostwalker is bashing me. I
figure some deranged NPC has gotten lose, so I whirl around to look, and
I see the name in that distinct PC blue. I'm confused, and Frostwalker
doesn't respond. I immediately tried to petition a GM, and while I'm
petitioning, I die. So, once I relocate to Everfrost, I petition again.
Lunare shows up pretty promptly and asks me all about it. I said I
hadn't tried talking to Frostwalker after dying since she wouldn't
respond while attacking me, and I'd made up my mind it was some twerp
who'd found a bug, but Lunare convinces me to try again. It turns out
Frostwalker was talking to the Shaman GM in Halas and accidentally
attacked her. This apparently caused the Shaman to charm her, which
then sent her on a bloody rampage, and PVP- PCs can harm other PVP- PCs
while charmed. That was Lunare's take; Frostwalker said she had no idea
what was happening, had no control over her character, and rebooted her
computer to try to stop the carnage.
Alright, no real harm done. My corpse wasn't looted (presumably wasn't
even lootable), and I'm too wimpy to even lose experience when I die.
I'm curious, though, if there isn't the possibility to exploit this.
What if some absolute tank went and attacked the Shaman GM on purpose,
got charmed, and tore the town apart. How exactly does EQ determine who
you're going to attack while charmed? And just how often does that
Shaman GM charm? Often enough that you can count on it happening if you
can hang with him (her?) for a minute or so in a battle?
Sheesh, I leave UO to avoid the annoying PKs, and I get PKed on my third
day in EQ 8-).
Dennis Francis Heffernan
|Alright, no real harm done. My corpse wasn't looted (presumably wasn't
|even lootable), and I'm too wimpy to even lose experience when I die.
|I'm curious, though, if there isn't the possibility to exploit this.
You get no experience for killing another player, even in duel or if both
are hawks, and except in those latter cases your body is not lootable.
So they could DO it, but it won't get them anything.
Dennis F. Heffernan EQ: Venture (E'ci) dfra...@email.com
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"There's no easy way to be free."
-- Pete Townshend, "Slip Kid"
Gladimir
were entering Black Burrow from the Qeynos side; Vastoon the Necromancer
starting casting spells. He had the same PC-blue name that we all had, but
he is an NPC. Anyway, he charmed me into attacking my friends. They ran
into Black Burrow and I wandered up the mountains under one of Vastoon's
powerful illusions. When I finally came to my senses, I was disoriented and
very high up. I took one step and fell for 422 Hp damage.
- CLF (Gladimir, Barbarian Shaman)
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Khyrdin wrote in message <7f8q2c$8n$1...@nnrp03.primenet.com>...
>I was standing in my favorite shop in Halas, conducting a little
>business with the merchant, when I hear the door open behind me. Just
>as I'm buying some food, I notice that Frostwalker is bashing me. I
>figure some deranged NPC has gotten lose, so I whirl around to look, and
>I see the name in that distinct PC blue. I'm confused, and Frostwalker
>doesn't respond. I immediately tried to petition a GM, and while I'm
>petitioning, I die. So, once I relocate to Everfrost, I petition again.
>
>Lunare shows up pretty promptly and asks me all about it. I said I
>hadn't tried talking to Frostwalker after dying since she wouldn't
>respond while attacking me, and I'd made up my mind it was some twerp
>who'd found a bug, but Lunare convinces me to try again. It turns out
>Frostwalker was talking to the Shaman GM in Halas and accidentally
>attacked her. This apparently caused the Shaman to charm her, which
>then sent her on a bloody rampage, and PVP- PCs can harm other PVP- PCs
>while charmed. That was Lunare's take; Frostwalker said she had no idea
>what was happening, had no control over her character, and rebooted her
>computer to try to stop the carnage.
>
>Alright, no real harm done. My corpse wasn't looted (presumably wasn't
>even lootable), and I'm too wimpy to even lose experience when I die.
>I'm curious, though, if there isn't the possibility to exploit this.
Lokari
>This apparently caused the Shaman to charm her, which
>then sent her on a bloody rampage, and PVP- PCs can harm other PVP- PCs
>while charmed. That was Lunare's take; Frostwalker said she had no idea
>what was happening, had no control over her character
This has happened to me as well. Once I realized that the reason I was
whacking the daylights out of a party member was that I was charmed, I
just sat back and laughed. Couldn't do much else - keyboard control
was completely locked out, so I couldn't even tell the poor guy what
was happening to him.
You can't really look on this as a PVP- fighting a PVP-. Look on it as
a PVP- getting temporarily changed into a weapon by an NPC. After all,
when you're charmed, the "player" part of PC is inactive.
Stefan Raets
wrote:
>Sheesh, I leave UO to avoid the annoying PKs, and I get PKed on my third
>day in EQ 8-).
I've had this happen to. In Toxullia forest there's an NPC
necromancer who will attack anyone fighting a skeleton. He once
attacked us, charmed my friend, and had my friend attack the others in
the party. Was very creepy.
Stefan Raets
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Silverlock
wrote:
>I was standing in my favorite shop in Halas, conducting a little
>business with the merchant, when I hear the door open behind me. Just
>as I'm buying some food, I notice that Frostwalker is bashing me. I
>figure some deranged NPC has gotten lose, so I whirl around to look, and
>I see the name in that distinct PC blue. I'm confused, and Frostwalker
>doesn't respond. I immediately tried to petition a GM, and while I'm
>petitioning, I die. So, once I relocate to Everfrost, I petition again.
>
>Lunare shows up pretty promptly and asks me all about it. I said I
>hadn't tried talking to Frostwalker after dying since she wouldn't
>respond while attacking me, and I'd made up my mind it was some twerp
>who'd found a bug, but Lunare convinces me to try again. It turns out
>Frostwalker was talking to the Shaman GM in Halas and accidentally
>attacked her. This apparently caused the Shaman to charm her, which
>then sent her on a bloody rampage, and PVP- PCs can harm other PVP- PCs
>while charmed. That was Lunare's take; Frostwalker said she had no idea
>what was happening, had no control over her character, and rebooted her
>computer to try to stop the carnage.
>
>Alright, no real harm done. My corpse wasn't looted (presumably wasn't
>even lootable), and I'm too wimpy to even lose experience when I die.
>I'm curious, though, if there isn't the possibility to exploit this.
>What if some absolute tank went and attacked the Shaman GM on purpose,
>got charmed, and tore the town apart. How exactly does EQ determine who
>you're going to attack while charmed? And just how often does that
>Shaman GM charm? Often enough that you can count on it happening if you
>can hang with him (her?) for a minute or so in a battle?
>
>Sheesh, I leave UO to avoid the annoying PKs, and I get PKed on my third
>day in EQ 8-).
The end result of most of these charms is the death of the charmed
person as well. They generally attack a guard or someone near a guard
and get stomped.
Alasdair Allan
> necromancer who will attack anyone fighting a skeleton. He once
> attacked us, charmed my friend, and had my friend attack the others in
> the party. Was very creepy.
The more I find out about this game and its mechanics, the utter brilliance
of its design becomes incomprehensible.
That is such a superb element.
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Rod Pitcock
Caves in steamfront. It was my first time there and it was my turn to
go find a mino to bring back to the group. The first place I went was
to the necromancer, who promptly charmed me and sent me back out to
where the players camp out. I proceeded to kill about 10 players before
the necromancer got tired of the game and killed me. He kept healing me
so I would not die. This lasted a good ten minutes. I just sat back,
grabbed a beer, and laughed and cheered myself on. It was probably the
most fun I have had in the game even though I was not at the controls.
Prostuck
the shaman NPC that charms them. They're used like a magic user uses
his/her pet.
rezemix
smack the attacker back while they are charmed? (One of the many
great things about zek. Someone gets charmed and out of control
= Slice them down for their own good.)
Zur
> Ha! That must be interesting. I take it you blues can't even
> smack the attacker back while they are charmed? (One of the many
> great things about zek. Someone gets charmed and out of control
> = Slice them down for their own good.)
No, you can fight back, pvp or not. I suggest rooting them, and running
away, though. Or if you're strong enough, root them over and over.
Hopefully, the charm spell will wear off before your root does.
btw, the reason no one in thier right mind would be charmed on purpose is
that it generally ends in the player's death. And xp loss at higher
levels is really painful.
(Vraekai, who just lost level 20, and hit ctrl,alt,delete to cool off for
a while. *<wipes tears from eyes, and reboots EQ>*)
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